The first step for flashing Alliance was making sure i have the 4.3 firmware. Flashed via Odin.
I experfienced some trouble with a bootloop issue so i changed cables and then partitioned with the .pit file.
All's well now, it at least runs the stock firmware just fine. Now i'm strugglling with the most basic simple part IMO... how do i install the custom Rom without the recovery??
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The first step for flashing Alliance was making sure i have the 4.3 firmware. Flashed via Odin.
I experfienced some trouble with a bootloop issue so i changed cables and then partitioned with the .pit file.
All's well now, it at least runs the stock firmware just fine. Now i'm strugglling with the most basic simple part IMO... how do i install the custom Rom without the recovery??
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You are rooted still correct? Easiest way I guess is to just download Rom Manager or GooManager depending on using TWRP or CWM.
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You are rooted still correct? Easiest way I guess is to just download Rom Manager or GooManager depending on using TWRP or CWM.
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I chose to bump up my android version cuz i friend another SIM card. I tether for my Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime, and whatever else, thankfully my laptop can get weak unsecured internet signals, but i'm walking my Note around the apartment trying to get good 1x reception Problems may be overlapping but next step is something basic from the Play Store to verify root.
I read of some luck with root for 4.3, just not bootloader. Am i correct?
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You are rooted still correct? Easiest way I guess is to just download Rom Manager or GooManager depending on using TWRP or CWM.
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Not rooted. it sounds like rooting is still an option, just not custom recovery?
Is using ODIN to flash stock rooted an option? No valuable files on phone currently.
(Fortunately I'm at work right now so I have time to make well informed decisions. Thanks for your help)
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Not rooted. it sounds like rooting is still an option, just not custom recovery?
Is using ODIN to flash stock rooted an option? No valuable files on phone currently.
(Fortunately I'm at work right now so I have time to make well informed decisions. Thanks for your help)
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I believe if you took/flashed the OTA update, your kinda out of luck and stuck now. I'm not 100% certain of this though but I think it probably relocked the bootloader and the only thing to do is wait for someone to root/unlock 4.3.
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I believe if you took/flashed the OTA update, your kinda out of luck and stuck now. I'm not 100% certain of this though but I think it probably relocked the bootloader and the only thing to do is wait for someone to root/unlock 4.3.
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Correct. If you took the OTA it relocked your bootloader and you are stuck. You can still root the official 4.3 but you are stuck waiting until someone unlocks the bootloader. This means no custom ROMs/Recovery.
Which 4.3 firmware did you flash? If its the OTA then yes you're outta luck.
If you did follow the Alliance's rom thread. There is a 4.3 MJ9 firmware you need to flash. It doesn't have the locked bootloader. You are then able to boot up in the basic recovery and then flash either TWRP or CWM recovery.
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Good Morning everyone. I need to flash back to 4.1.2 to get my phone looked at. Is it possible to re-root after I get my phone back? I see people are having problems using casual and getting a partition 60 missing? or something on that order any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Good Morning everyone. I need to flash back to 4.1.2 to get my phone looked at. Is it possible to re-root after I get my phone back? I see people are having problems using casual and getting a partition 60 missing? or something on that order any help would be greatly appreciated.
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When you say "flash back to 4.1.2", do you mean just flash a stock 4.1.2 ROM, or use ODIN to restore your phone to factory locked condition?
As long as the phone does not accept the 4.3 OTA then casual will still work. If the 4.3 OTA gets installed on your phone, then you will not be able to unlock the bootloader again. You can still achieve root access, but not unlock, which will prevent you from being able to install custom roms.
I just want to make sure I've got this right. I've done the VRUEMJ9 4.3 OTA update. If I flash back to the stock VRAMC3 4.1.2 build using ODIN, I still won't be able to unlock my bootloader?
If so, I wish I'd known this before I took the OTA update. On my old phone, I could just sbf to an older build and that took care of any problems. I thought that it would be the same with this phone, but I guess not. Frustrating.
GreenRaccoon said:
I just want to make sure I've got this right. I've done the VRUEMJ9 4.3 OTA update. If I flash back to the stock VRAMC3 4.1.2 build using ODIN, I still won't be able to unlock my bootloader?
If so, I wish I'd known this before I took the OTA update. On my old phone, I could just sbf to an older build and that took care of any problems. I thought that it would be the same with this phone, but I guess not. Frustrating.
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That is the case, unfortunately. From the research I've done it would seem the bootloader on this device cannot be downgraded. The files we have available to flash via ODIN do not change the bootloader, they are not full images. And yes it is frustrating, several of my family members were not the happy with the 4.3 OTA and were ready to take the custom ROM plunge, too late.
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That is the case, unfortunately. From the research I've done it would seem the bootloader on this device cannot be downgraded. The files we have available to flash via ODIN do not change the bootloader, they are not full images. And yes it is frustrating, several of my family members were not the happy with the 4.3 OTA and were ready to take the custom ROM plunge, too late.
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Is there a way to track down the full bootloader img for older versions?
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Is there a way to track down the full bootloader img for older versions?
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Not that I know of.
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I've never had any issues flashing ROMs until I tried flashing one of the beta builds of the 4.4.4 Google edition ROM. The creator of the ROM has been having issues with WiFi and data not locking correctly and released an APN zip to possibly resolve the issue. Flashing that zip though, which I'm pretty sure changed the radio, resulted in the phone having connection issues on any ROM. I also noticed that the baseband version was changed from MDK to NC5, so long story short, I used ODIN to revert back to MDK bone stock, reverted back to to MD2 (I believe) to root, then back to MDK.
Here's where I'm a little stumped. I tried to use the ROM manager app to install CWM touch recovery and every time it would say it's successful, but booting into recovery would give me the stock android version, which we all know is pretty useless other than for stock updates and erasing data/cache. So the only way to get CWM recovery installed was to use terminal on the phone to do the Loki flash method. I'm a little out of touch, so can someone explain to me what exactly Loki is other than a "workaround" for the bootloader, how it applies to MDK for running AOSP ROMs without the "unauthorized software" message, and what, if any was the unlocking method for the MDK bootloader? It's been so long that I can't remember how I set everything up initially, and doing a search didn't yield any kind of guide for newbies or those out of touch like myself.
Thanks for taking the time to read and help!
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I've never had any issues flashing ROMs until I tried flashing one of the beta builds of the 4.4.4 Google edition ROM. The creator of the ROM has been having issues with WiFi and data not locking correctly and released an APN zip to possibly resolve the issue. Flashing that zip though, which I'm pretty sure changed the radio, resulted in the phone having connection issues on any ROM. I also noticed that the baseband version was changed from MDK to NC5, so long story short, I used ODIN to revert back to MDK bone stock, reverted back to to MD2 (I believe) to root, then back to MDK.
Here's where I'm a little stumped. I tried to use the ROM manager app to install CWM touch recovery and every time it would say it's successful, but booting into recovery would give me the stock android version, which we all know is pretty useless other than for stock updates and erasing data/cache. So the only way to get CWM recovery installed was to use terminal on the phone to do the Loki flash method. I'm a little out of touch, so can someone explain to me what exactly Loki is other than a "workaround" for the bootloader, how it applies to MDK for running AOSP ROMs without the "unauthorized software" message, and what, if any was the unlocking method for the MDK bootloader? It's been so long that I can't remember how I set everything up initially, and doing a search didn't yield any kind of guide for newbies or those out of touch like myself.
Thanks for taking the time to read and help!
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Loki is an exploit that allows the system to bypass bootloader checks and load custom software. If this happens again, restoring an EFS backup should fix your issue.
If you ever need to go back to stock MDK, you no longer need to do the downgrade to the prerelease MDL kernel. Just go to towelroot.com, install the towelroot apk, then hit the make it ra1n button. It's a new root method that came out a few months ago and works for a ton of devices. The easiest way to flash a compatible custom recovery for our device is to download Flashify from the play store and from there you can get the latest TWRP.
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Loki is an exploit that allows the system to bypass bootloader checks and load custom software. If this happens again, restoring an EFS backup should fix your issue.
If you ever need to go back to stock MDK, you no longer need to do the downgrade to the prerelease MDL kernel. Just go to towelroot.com, install the towelroot apk, then hit the make it ra1n button. It's a new root method that came out a few months ago and works for a ton of devices. The easiest way to flash a compatible custom recovery for our device is to download Flashify from the play store and from there you can get the latest TWRP.
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Gotcha, seems pretty straightforward. Wasn't there an actual unlock method for the bootloader though? I remember getting my download mode to read as custom as well as the boot logo, I just can't remember how and it seems like all traces of how to do it vanished.
Thanks for the help!
Also, what in the world does it mean to "Loki" a ROM after installing it? Kinda confused there
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Gotcha, seems pretty straightforward. Wasn't there an actual unlock method for the bootloader though? I remember getting my download mode to read as custom as well as the boot logo, I just can't remember how and it seems like all traces of how to do it vanished.
Thanks for the help!
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No, never an actual bootloader unlock, besides Dev editions that came unlocked. My download mode still says "install custom ROM" or whatever. There's no discernable difference to the end user between an unlocked bootloader and an exploit like the Loki bypass.
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No, never an actual bootloader unlock, besides Dev editions that came unlocked. My download mode still says "install custom ROM" or whatever. There's no discernable difference to the end user between an unlocked bootloader and an exploit like the Loki bypass.
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OK, and I'm assuming the reason why being on MDK is so important is because upgrading to ME7 patches the vulnerability that can allow the boot loader to be bypassed, forcing you to use safestrap, which results in no custom kernal being able to be used?
And my question above: what does it mean to install, then "Loki" a ROM in the install steps?
Thanks again, you're awesome!
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OK, and I'm assuming the reason why being on MDK is so important is because upgrading to ME7 patches the vulnerability that can allow the boot loader to be bypassed, forcing you to use safestrap, which results in no custom kernal being able to be used?
And my question above: what does it mean to install, then "Loki" a ROM in the install steps?
Thanks again, you're awesome!
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Yes exactly, ME7 patched it.
If you flash a TW ROM not built specifically for our device, The ROM (depending on kernel you flashed or if the ROM includes a kernel) may not have the files included to boot on a device with the Loki specific bypass. So you need to flash the " Loki doki zip " after the ROM and before initial boot. You can find the file on Google.
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Yes exactly, ME7 patched it.
If you flash a TW ROM not built specifically for our device, The ROM (depending on kernel you flashed or if the ROM includes a kernel) may not have the files included to boot on a device with the Loki specific bypass. So you need to flash the " Loki doki zip " after the ROM and before initial boot. You can find the file on Google.
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Awesome, thanks Josh! This might make a great sticky for the "what is Loki?" newvies and explaining the importance of MDK for those still on it and not sure why.
I was one of the idiots that accidentally upgraded to the newest firmware when it first came out. My device is totally rooted, but I've been reading that I'm required to use things such as SafeStrap or Loki to install custom roms. I'm not sure if this is still the case as its been months since this was discovered. I've been trying to search the forums extensively for a fix, but I've been unable to find one. One thing I came across: here seems to be a very simple way to install TWRP on the Galaxy S4, however, I don't wan to run the risk of bricking my phone and being SOL because I have ****ty firmware and no way to custom recover my phone.
Point blank, would I be able to install TWRP manager via GooManager given that I've updated to NC5? Or even if not, what are my options for custom recovery/roms? End game, I want to walk away with 5.0.1 GPE or Cyanogenmod 12. Hopefully.
I'd really appreciate any and all help. Attached is a screenshot of my phone information.
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I was one of the idiots that accidentally upgraded to the newest firmware when it first came out. My device is totally rooted, but I've been reading that I'm required to use things such as SafeStrap or Loki to install custom roms. I'm not sure if this is still the case as its been months since this was discovered. I've been trying to search the forums extensively for a fix, but I've been unable to find one. One thing I came across: here seems to be a very simple way to install TWRP on the Galaxy S4, however, I don't wan to run the risk of bricking my phone and being SOL because I have ****ty firmware and no way to custom recover my phone.
Point blank, would I be able to install TWRP manager via GooManager given that I've updated to NC5? Or even if not, what are my options for custom recovery/roms? End game, I want to walk away with 5.0.1 GPE or Cyanogenmod 12. Hopefully.
I'd really appreciate any and all help. Attached is a screenshot of my phone information.
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Once you updated to anything past MDK there's no going back . Safestrap is the only option to install Touchwiz ROMS.
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Once you updated to anything past MDK there's no going back . Safestrap is the only option to install Touchwiz ROMS.
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Damn! That's what I figured. I followed [this guide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLHZfPwLkPM) and installed the SafeStrap APK, but stopped at the "install recovery" step. I've been reading that this can soft brick your phone. Do you have any input? Is it safe to do? If it does brick my phone will I be able to factory reset with Odin?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, I'm a bit of a noob.
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Well, I decided to go ahead with it. It worked fine. I rebooted to SafeStrap and went right to do a backup. It failed. I tried to reboot into my stock rom, and it was 0MB. I really might blow up Verizon HQ.
zQueal said:
Damn! That's what I figured. I followed [this guide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLHZfPwLkPM) and installed the SafeStrap APK, but stopped at the "install recovery" step. I've been reading that this can soft brick your phone. Do you have any input? Is it safe to do? If it does brick my phone will I be able to factory reset with Odin?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, I'm a bit of a noob.
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Well, I decided to go ahead with it. It worked fine. I rebooted to SafeStrap and went right to do a backup. It failed. I tried to reboot into my stock rom, and it was 0MB. I really might blow up Verizon HQ.
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I never used SafeStrap so I doubt I will be much help. But once you rebooted your stock ROM is no longer there? Might have to just flash a stock image via ODIN and try again. Verizon isn't going to help you either with modding your phone, XDA is the place to be.
Has there been anything new since this thread was posted or is it impossible still?
mcbeat257 said:
Has there been anything new since this thread was posted or is it impossible still?
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Sorry buddy you're SOL
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If you are rooted use a terminal editor app and type:
getprop ro.bootloader
If it says anything other than I545VRUAMDK your only choice is SafeStrap.
That means if you bought an S4 and it came with MK1, NC5, NK1, or anything other than MDK you cannot flash a custom recovery. The same applies if you took an OTA from VZW. This has been stated 1000's of times here.
Hint:
Look on the box that your S4 came in and read the last three characters where it says what build the phone has.
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Has there been anything new since this thread was posted or is it impossible still?
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Keep checking up on SS they are working on the ability to also use custom kernels on top which would make it essentially as efficient as a custom recovery, with some storage loss.
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Well, I decided to go ahead with it. It worked fine. I rebooted to SafeStrap and went right to do a backup. It failed. I tried to reboot into my stock rom, and it was 0MB. I really might blow up Verizon HQ.[/QUOTE]
***Make sure you are using the correct version of safestrap for your current baseband
another good app from the google play store to download is samsung info
I have used safestrap in the past as I was in the same scenario as you. I currently now have a MDK phone
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Keep checking up on SS they are working on the ability to also use custom kernels on top which would make it essentially as efficient as a custom recovery, with some storage loss.
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How come they haven't been able to unlock the bootloader when only the build version is changing......
There should have been an exploit awhile ago....and why haven't they made an odin option for MDK yet?
mcbeat257 said:
How come they haven't been able to unlock the bootloader when only the build version is changing......
There should have been an exploit awhile ago....and why haven't they made an odin option for MDK yet?
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The exploit was weeded out after MDK
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The bootloader was never "unlocked" on MDK, there was just an exploit available that allowed the installation of a custom recovery. That exploit was closed in the first update from MDK and a new one has not been discovered. The bootloader itself has some pretty strong encryption so it may never be unlocked.
I've been having some terribly sluggish issues lately. Lagging when I text, browse the web, even listen to music.
I honestly do not remember which method I used to root, but I rooted & kept the stock rom. I just deleted the bloat.
Not sure if this will help
http://i.imgur.com/L9prnWv.png
I'm at a point where the lagging is really irking me, but I'm not sure which route I should go.
Since I'm rooted, can I just go ahead with the OTA update without any issues? If so, is there a method to root on lollipop?
If not...Should I just go ahead and flash another rom?
Don't take the ota! Follow he thread about upgrading to 5.01 keeping root! Totally worth going to LP. The speed is great! Give it a shot.
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This one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i545oc1-5-0-1-keeproot-t3096558
yes, that one
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yes, that one
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Did that, and it says i'm still on 4.4.2. Very strange.
I'm still getting the pop up for the OTA
Make sure to back up any data and do a full wipe to nc5. That can make a difference. Or, Odin back to nc5, and use the Echoe ROM or the Super6 ROM, both of which are on Lollipop.
XxD34THxX said:
Make sure to back up any data and do a full wipe to nc5. That can make a difference. Or, Odin back to nc5, and use the Echoe ROM or the Super6 ROM, both of which are on Lollipop.
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This is all foreign language to me
Sorry.
OK, get a program called odin. It is leaked Samsung software that allows to flash stock firmware on your phone. You have to flash the stock nc5 firmware with this and THEN continue the upgrade to lollipop
Laziness and not knowing much has lead me to not doing anything about the issue until now.
The phone gets slower by the day, so it's time for a change.
I'd like to flash this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550770 but i'm not too sure if I can flash this via the stock recovery?
If not, how would I go about installing TWRP? I did try to search, but the page kept timing out.
DO NOT TRY TO INSTALL TWRP. YOU WILL BRICK. Thanks to Verizon, we have a locked bootloader, which means we only have Safestrap and Flashfire. SS is based off of TWRP, but is a really really really gimped version. Flashfire is an app that functions like a recovery.
You cannot install that ROM at all, because of this POS bootloader.
What you CAN DO, is install Roms such as Eclipse,Kitpop,Hyperdrive, and Stang's 5.0.1 ROM.
OR, you could do the OTA with root method.
I'm currently rooted on 4.3 MJ4. Yes I'm outdated and decided to finally update. I'm going to flash to stock 4.3 MJ4. My questions is, after I flash to stock 4.3 MJ4. Can I flash NC5 from MJ4? Or would I have to do it in these steps ( MJ4 then NAB then NC5? ).
Why not PH1? If you're wanting to stay with KK, NK4 is the last I believe. NH7 is the one most people used. Just trying to find out what you're trying to achieve
Also, if you're flashing a stock ROM, you don't need to first flash MJ4. Just flash what you want.
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Why not PH1? If you're wanting to stay with KK, NK4 is the last I believe. NH7 is the one most people used. Just trying to find out what you're trying to achieve
Also, if you're flashing a stock ROM, you don't need to first flash MJ4. Just flash what you want.
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Awesome! Thanks! I am trying to flash a stock rom, but thought I would need to go in steps instead of instantly flashing to the most current version.
As for my plan: I'm rooted and on a custom rom. I want to go back to stock rom and then root again and flash to either cm12.1 or cm13. From what I've read, I cant flash to either cyanogenmod roms until I was on either lollipop or higher. I was also thinking, would it work if I was to flash a rooted current version of a stock rom, that way I don't have to flash a stock rom and break root and have to root it again?
For better results, I would flash a full PH1 rom and root, then install whatever rom you want. Usually they want the bootloader to be upgraded to lollipop and that really only happens when either flashing a full Odin rom or a bootloader image. Doing only the bootloader doesn't upgrade anything else and may cause issues.
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For better results, I would flash a full PH1 rom and root, then install whatever rom you want. Usually they want the bootloader to be upgraded to lollipop and that really only happens when either flashing a full Odin rom or a bootloader image. Doing only the bootloader doesn't upgrade anything else and may cause issues.
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What is the PH1 rom? I've already flashed to stock NC5 so far and lost root.
It's the latest rom. I don't think an Odin has been posted, but you can grab from the Samsung firmware site. Load that, then root by flashing TWRP and boot into recovery and flash SuperSU. Done.
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It's the latest rom. I don't think an Odin has been posted, but you can grab from the Samsung firmware site. Load that, then root by flashing TWRP and boot into recovery and flash SuperSU. Done.
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EDIT: I went ahead and used the Full Restore. Fortunately, it did not WIPE any data. YEAH! And it looks like I am on my way to an updated NOTE3.
Hello. My Note3 is on 4.3. It was rooted a couple of years ago, but out of use since Oct 2015. I still want to use the Note3 for non-cell phone operations, browsing, camera, etc. I want to upgrade, but the OTA is locked out.
I am lost on all of the many, many posts on how to updated a rooted Note3, but most of them are outdated. I have it mostly backed up as far as handwritten notes, photos, etc. But I don't really want to have to start from scratch if I don't have to.
I am currently reviewing rwilco's one click options. There are two software packages listed in his directory. One of them is dated 02/27/15 and is called nodata restore. Will this keep from wiping the phone as opposed to the fullrestore exe posted 04/12/14 vs the tar posted 02/27/15.
I am not a complete dodo, but I am having a hard time getting this phone unrooted and updated.
Thanks for any detail instructions or links to the best way to update this as of 9/5/2016!!!
Everything you need to know is explained here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/guide-how-to-disable-air-command-pop-t2960839
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