I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
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Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
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First it depends on your desire. And how to receive root read the guide, the first post in this subject.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904
Why do you want/need root?
If you can answer that question; go for it.
I totally understand the need for root fot a lot of users.......that being said this is the first and only phone ive had in 5 years that I have not felt the need to root/unlock bootloader................................. YET!
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Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
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We can't offer advice. If you need access to the root directory for any reason then you will need to...
If not then obviously leave it as is.
All i can really say is; If you have to ask, you don't need it.
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All i can really say is; If you have to ask, you don't need it.
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Yep, because if one needs root, the question is... "What's the most recent / best method?"
My advise, don't worry about root until you need root access. I was doing fine without it until Sony decided to screw up sound enhancements on its latest software update. If you aren't on .136, my advice wait till kit Kat to make a decision on updating/rooting!:good:
Just to chime in here, I have a desire for root, but I'm still stock/no-root.
I know folks might disagree with me, but after reading pages and pages of howto's, etc. I've determined there is no way to backup your stock phone (TA partition/DRM keys) etc with any of the current methods.
To root you must unlock your boot loader, when you unlock your bootloader, your TA partition and DRM keys are gone.
This means you have voided your warranty and can never restore to a truly stock phone.
Yeah Yeah Yeah, I know you can revert all the way back to version 532, root the phone and then backup your TA, etc. This is a WHOLE lot of steps that if you aren't careful can leave you with a $700 brick. If your nervous at all about these multi-step processes, than just leave your phone alone.
As many have said, I really haven't even thought about a custom ROM for this phone. The ONLY thing I miss is being able to do a nandroid backup, as it's such a pain to rebuild my phone if something goes wonky.
-TheFixer
TheFixerAK said:
Just to chime in here, I have a desire for root, but I'm still stock/no-root.
I know folks might disagree with me, but after reading pages and pages of howto's, etc. I've determined there is no way to backup your stock phone (TA partition/DRM keys) etc with any of the current methods.
To root you must unlock your boot loader, when you unlock your bootloader, your TA partition and DRM keys are gone.
This means you have voided your warranty and can never restore to a truly stock phone.
Yeah Yeah Yeah, I know you can revert all the way back to version 532, root the phone and then backup your TA, etc. This is a WHOLE lot of steps that if you aren't careful can leave you with a $700 brick. If your nervous at all about these multi-step processes, than just leave your phone alone.
As many have said, I really haven't even thought about a custom ROM for this phone. The ONLY thing I miss is being able to do a nandroid backup, as it's such a pain to rebuild my phone if something goes wonky.
-TheFixer
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Wimp
I, and many of the other power users/posters (hamdogg, LordManhatton, [NUT], krabappel, DoomLord), have gone back and forth many times and have tested all of the steps. There were lots of Z1 (and a few ZU) bricks, mostly by flashing .290 without bootboundle.
The steps are simple, and you dont even need to unlock the BL to have root on .290/136
Flash [NUT]'s .532
Root w1th Bin4ry's tool
Backup TA
Unlock BL
Upgrade to latest FTF (or if on locked BL follow the steps for .290 and then .136)
Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
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My reasoning:
to root because:
1. I can mod the system app as i like too (camera, quick toggle, xposed, etc)
2. I can do easier and real backup with Titanium Backup
3. I can find alternative ROM when the stock ROM is not there anymore
not to root because:
1. It has unremovable battery, so i don't want to have it died faster with all that plug/unplug ordeal
2. i got all the service that was offered at the time of purchase, i just want to enjoy it as long as i can
3. The stock ROM is enough for me
4. Helium/Carbon Backup is there to substitute TiBu
So each of the way is good in for some reason. For me the the urge to mod is dead if you are not rooted (obvious) but there are a lot of other ways to do a modding, for instance, do your own program might be a better approach to fill on your own needs. There are more than one ways to Rome anyway
hansip87 said:
My reasoning:
to root because:
1. I can mod the system app as i like too (camera, quick toggle, xposed, etc)
2. I can do easier and real backup with Titanium Backup
3. I can find alternative ROM when the stock ROM is not there anymore
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Good one!!
rooting the latest is a pain. But i didnt start using my phone, till i had safely rooted it.
This is the only phone i havent rooted yet sincee the eclair era...no need.already powerful.smooth fast clear.nothing left to tweak n screw for me.best one yet.
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i dont root till Sony didnt released the last Firmware. If that gives me the Power to move Apps to SD the phone stays unrooted. If not i go for root, because of the size of my apps and because of the option Titanium Backup gives me
This is the only Android phone I have kept the stock ROM. I rooted it a couple of times but kept going back to the stable stock rom. The phone is naturally fast and smooth and has good memory and battery management as standard.
Need something else? then root.
Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful
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I think the main reason to root these days is to use Xposed. Sony stock roms+Xposed make a wonderful combination of features and stability.
Just to give an example, with Xposed you can have the features of (what used to be) Paranoid Android on a Sony stock rom.
This said, it is true that rooting .290/.136 firmwares may be a pain in the ass, but anyone that follows instructions carefully should be able to do it safely.
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blueether said:
Wimp
I, and many of the other power users/posters (hamdogg, LordManhatton, [NUT], krabappel, DoomLord), have gone back and forth many times and have tested all of the steps. There were lots of Z1 (and a few ZU) bricks, mostly by flashing .290 without bootboundle.
The steps are simple, and you dont even need to unlock the BL to have root on .290/136
Flash [NUT]'s .532
Root w1th Bin4ry's tool
Backup TA
Unlock BL
Upgrade to latest FTF (or if on locked BL follow the steps for .290 and then .136)
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Wimp I am when it comes to my primary work device I have lots of other older devices that I've hacked the crap out of (I can't count how many ROM's I've put on my GT7.7) and my Dell Streak wasn't even useful until I put a custom ROM it.
None of what you described above is something that I haven't done with other devices (But never with my current everyday primary device). That being said, My original statement still stands - there is no SIMPLE way to ROOT your phone and keep/backup the original config/partitions. My last 3 devices, I downloaded an App, clicked the button and whammo, Root.
Until I absolutely need it, I'll just stick with Stock/No-Root (That is of course unless someone creates a Whammo solution).
Thank you all for your response.
I have decidedto stick to the stock ROM for time being.
Once again I truly appreciate your response
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Hi!
This summer I'm getting my first Android phone (Xperia S), and I have some questions about rooting. I would post this in the Development section, but I don't have 10 posts.
Since I'm a power user, I want to root my phone, but since I never had a smart phone, I'm not that familiar with the rooting process. I know what bootloader and rooting itself is, but when I'm reading the guides, I'm not completely familiar with all the terms and whatnot.
I only want to root my phone, without using any special roms or anything. Should I keep my bootloader locked or should I unlock it? Does this affect the updates in any way? If I unlock the bootloader, will I still be able to update the phone or will I need to relock it?
Will I need to reroot the phone after each firmware update?
If you have any additional hints or information, I would be glad to read it.
Regards,
Klemen
The main benefit of rooting your phone is you can install any software you want, some apps need root permission, you can also customize UI, tweak performance, making a better battery life, etc.
on this device, you can relock it. If you doubt about your warranty, you can use the rooting with locked bootloader method. but you still need to relock if you want to claim your warranty in some cases. I hope you will not.
my advice is just use to your phone first, you enjoy with keyboard, texting, surfing on google play, bla bla bla. You will find the answer why you want to root or not.
I already know that I want to root my phone, the main reason is to get rid of the ads.
I'm just not sure, which is the preferred method of rooting it. I'm curious what's going to happen to future updates if I root the phone (some say, that every firmware unroots the phone).
KlemenKosir said:
Hi!
This summer I'm getting my first Android phone (Xperia S), and I have some questions about rooting. I would post this in the Development section, but I don't have 10 posts.
Since I'm a power user, I want to root my phone, but since I never had a smart phone, I'm not that familiar with the rooting process. I know what bootloader and rooting itself is, but when I'm reading the guides, I'm not completely familiar with all the terms and whatnot.
I only want to root my phone, without using any special roms or anything.1. Should I keep my bootloader locked or should I unlock it? 2. Does this affect the updates in any way? 3. If I unlock the bootloader, will I still be able to update the phone or will I need to relock it?
Will I need to reroot the phone after each firmware update?
If you have any additional hints or information, I would be glad to read it.
Regards,
Klemen
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I've numbered your questions in the quote, and made them bold for easier explanation.
1. Considering your last post (you want mostly to remove ads), I would recommend keeping it locked. For rooting it and installing CWM Recovery (I can try to explain what this is, if you don't know), you can follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
2. As said by XGAdev, you must relock your bootloader if you need to send it to warranty or update using either SUS or PC Companion. But you always can use Flashtool for updating. Just download the original firware you want, put it on the right folder and flash it.
3. Well, the answer is on the second one.
Right now, you just want to remove ads. In no time you will be heavily modding it, theming,etc. This also happened to me
If you need anything else, just say it. Press the thanks button if I was helpful enough, and if you want to press it. If not, just say it
My opinion:
Keep the BL locked, so you don't loose the DRM Keys, and follow the Root with BL Locked Guide to obtain Root Acess...
Unless you really want to have a tweaked kernel you wont need to Unlock the BL
Felimenta97 said:
I've numbered your questions in the quote, and made them bold for easier explanation.
1. Considering your last post (you want mostly to remove ads), I would recommend keeping it locked. For rooting it and installing CWM Recovery (I can try to explain what this is, if you don't know), you can follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
2. As said by XGAdev, you must relock your bootloader if you need to send it to warranty or update using either SUS or PC Companion. But you always can use Flashtool for updating. Just download the original firware you want, put it on the right folder and flash it.
3. Well, the answer is on the second one.
Right now, you just want to remove ads. In no time you will be heavily modding it, theming,etc. This also happened to me
If you need anything else, just say it. Press the thanks button if I was helpful enough, and if you want to press it. If not, just say it
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Thank you very much for your help!
What about if I decide to unlock my bootloader? How can I root ICS and install CWM in that case?
KlemenKosir said:
Thank you very much for your help!
What about if I decide to unlock my bootloader? How can I root ICS and install CWM in that case?
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Just flash Advanced stock ics kernel and you will get root and cwm.
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gm007 said:
Just flash Advanced stock ics kernel and you will get root and cwm.
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What's the difference between the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel and the SSpeed Kernel? The SSpeed is supposed to increase performance, but is the difference noticeable?
KlemenKosir said:
What's the difference between the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel and the SSpeed Kernel? The SSpeed is supposed to increase performance, but is the difference noticeable?
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The advanced stock kernel is same as stock without overclocking,and default governor.
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So, when I get my phone, I just unlock the bootloader, use fastboot to flash the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel, and use the ClockworkMod to flash a ROM?
KlemenKosir said:
So, when I get my phone, I just unlock the bootloader, use fastboot to flash the Advanced Stock ICS Kernel, and use the ClockworkMod to flash a ROM?
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Yes. Pretty much that.
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Thank you for your help, everyone, this is going to help a lot!
KlemenKosir said:
Thank you for your help, everyone, this is going to help a lot!
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I bet you're like me and won't be able to stop there. And I guess that you'd want to try jelly bean and for that (at least as of today) you need unlocked one...
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elvirag said:
I bet you're like me and won't be able to stop there. And I guess that you'd want to try jelly bean and for that (at least as of today) you need unlocked one...
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Well, for starters, I'm only going to root the phone. After some time, I'll maybe consider trying other ROMs.
Any ROM can be used in Locked BL (rooted)?
Hello,
I'm really confused should I root my phone or not, I want to have apps like titanium backup, juice defender, screen cast etc. But on the other side I don't want to lose my warranty. So I created some questions that you can answer me to help me decide.
Why should I root?
Is it worth it for some apps?
Is rooting safer than installing a custom rom?
Is it hard to do?
Should I install a custom rom ?
Is there any way getting back your warranty?
Should I root it because I have the phone only a week?
Any good guides?
What to do if I brick my phone?
Will I still have all apps?
What are the pro's and con's?
Any more information I need please post.
Hit the Thanks button!
I think you can simplify the questions by asking yourself whether you think you are someone who likes to tinker with their phone and get under the hood a little, or whether you are generally happy with how it's working now and merely curious what all the fuss is about?
You may conclude from either question that rooting is worth a try. It's probably a good idea to have at least a good reason to (such as wanting to install a root-only app like AdAway or having a custom recovery like TeamWin or ClockWork Mod for backups and such, or for installing one of the cool ROMs we have available in these forums).
I was apprehensive the first time I rooted, but now I can't imagine running my phone without it. Especially thanks to the custom ROMs we have here and the many mods and apps that require root/busybox/init.d etc to run. That said, I wouldn't advise rooting to someone else unless they were comfortable with the notion that they might not be covered under warranty anymore, and would have to rely on their own and this community to deal with any problems they might encounter. You can get your phone back to stock ROM and unrooted, with a locked bootloader but I believe it will still indicate at the bootloader that you 'relocked' it, so your provider can tell that it was tampered with and may decide that that's a good enough reason not to honor your warranty. Proceed at your own risk.
As far as the details, no it's not very difficult to root your phone. You need to be marginally competent at running some software on your PC and follow the tutorials available here. There's this tool which makes things very easy, and there's also nloooo's tutorial here if you want to do it more manually which is helpful in learning some of the basics of using adb commands and getting your PC to talk to your phone, etc.
If you follow the instructions in the tutorials you shouldn't brick your phone. You just need to be mindful of what you are doing and don't do silly things like pull the USB cable while it's sending files to your phone. Even then, there's usually ways to recover from those situations. It's hard to actually brick the phone.
Backup your phone, often!
Hope that goes someways towards answering your questions. Good luck!
Reason to root for me:
Adaway - to remove ads temporarily
Sixaxis - to play games with ps3 controller
BetterBatteryStats - to check what prevents deep sleep such as alarms etc
Titanium backup - to backup my stuff just incase something happening to my phone
That's it. If you don't need this I don't think you need to root at all.
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@ dxarch
Why should I root? Ans: Please google. You will get ample number of example why you have to root your phone.
Is it worth it for some apps? Ans: Yes. Most of the apps which benefits need root access.
Is rooting safer than installing a custom rom? Ans: You can not install custom rom without having Root access.
Is it hard to do? Ans: Depends on your knowledge. If you follow the processes mentioned in this forum, should not be an issue.
Should I install a custom rom ? Ans: Again your choice. I will prefer to go for Custom ROMs.
Is there any way getting back your warranty? Ans: No, I do not think so.
Should I root it because I have the phone only a week? Ans: That does not matter. I rooted my phone once I came back with my phone from showroom.
Any good guides? Ans: It is available in the forum. Please search.
What to do if I brick my phone? Ans: First you should not face any issues following the guide here. If still bricked then your bad. I have not bricked till days, where I am having very less knowledge in android. Take always backup before doing something unknown.
Will I still have all apps? Ans: Rooting does not delete any apps. You will get the power to delete bloatware and install so many apps those need root.
What are the pro's and con's? Ans: Please refer answer 1.
Any more information I need please post. Ans: Please check this forum. Everything is there..
Hit the Thanks button! Ans: Sorry I can not becoz I am helping you so I should get thanks from you. :laugh:
Best of luck..Gain some knowledge before going ahead with root that will give you more confidence.
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@ dxarch
Hit the Thanks button! Ans: Sorry I can not becoz I am helping you so I should get thanks from you. :laugh:
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The "Hit the Thanks button!" is actually my taptalk signature but no problem...
dxarch said:
The "Hit the Thanks button!" is actually my taptalk signature but no problem...
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No problem buddy...
One last word..if you having ample money to buy a new phone in case you bricked the present one..then go and play with your phone..Else stay away from root if you are happy with whatever is there...
KSKHH said:
No problem buddy...
One last word..if you having ample money to buy a new phone in case you bricked the present one..then go and play with your phone..Else stay away from root if you are happy with whatever is there...
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Exactly, I rooted every phone I had except this one. I don't have money for a new one and I'm completely satisfied of the function and look (changed everything what I can without root) so it's only up to you if you want a new Rom or root based apps..
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KSKHH said:
No problem buddy...
One last word..if you having ample money to buy a new phone in case you bricked the present one..then go and play with your phone..Else stay away from root if you are happy with whatever is there...
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What!? I didn't know if i brick it i can't use it anymore. As far as I know you can use a recover.img or RUU... but I'm just a n00b
dxarch said:
What!? I didn't know if i brick it i can't use it anymore. As far as I know you can use a recover.img or RUU... but I'm just a n00b
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Depends on how you bricked it. And if you can flash a recovery.img or RUU, it's not a real brick.
But about the rooting:
I've rooted every device I owned + lots of other devices. It's surely worth it. ROMs make the device so much smoother, and when using atis112's kernel, you'll get the most out of your device. It also removes bloatware, and allows full theming. I don't see any problem with it, except the OTA's. But that's not that hard, you can flash the stock recovery/RUU, and you'll get them back.
In my experience, there's a really small chance of bricking your phone.It's a safe method.
new to rooting
dxarch said:
Hello,
I'm really confused should I root my phone or not, I want to have apps like titanium backup, juice defender, screen cast etc. But on the other side I don't want to lose my warranty. So I created some questions that you can answer me to help me decide.
Why should I root?
Is it worth it for some apps?
Is rooting safer than installing a custom rom?
Is it hard to do?
Should I install a custom rom ?
Is there any way getting back your warranty?
Should I root it because I have the phone only a week?
Any good guides?
What to do if I brick my phone?
Will I still have all apps?
What are the pro's and con's?
Any more information I need please post.
Hit the Thanks button!
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I own Desire X.
May be i am very late in replying but i ll try to answer some of ur questions.
I am new to rooting scene so in case of any wrong information, please correct me.
I will share my experience.
I rooted the phone coz i wanted access to limit my startup items. In addition, rooted phone can give u access to ur device completely.
Tutorial made by nloooo is awesome, otherwise its better you follow the tutorial specifically made by the developer of the product.
TWRP recovery is cool and serves the purpose.
I tried Elegencia ROM and now i am using mySENSE-dx_RC3.0. I really hate all the bloatware in my phone which is te main reason for installing ROM.
Going back to custom ROM is easy (i think), for that u need to have a full backup of ur system in TWRP.
Going to ctock ROM is a bit difficult using RUU as stock ROM in RUU need compatible CID of your phone.
Both these ROMs i mentioned above are are awesome and u can choose any one depending on ur needs. Advantages of Elegencia are that you can choose which software to install through aroma installer while installing ROM. Its light, flawless and cool.
Why i chose mySENSE-dx_RC3.0 is that i really loved Full Sense as compared ti sense lite in stock as well as Elegencia ROM.
I've been trying hard to find the answer and I just can't - I searched these threads for a while.
I currently have Galaxy S4 with MDK which is rooted and has the unlocked bootloader.
I have SDM and SEAndroid frozen on Titanium Backup.
I want to un-freeze those and upgrade to the newest version but still keep my root and all of my root apps. I don't care about the unlocked bootloader - all the root apps I use don't have anything to do with using the bootloader (well I have twrp installed but don't use it).
Can I use OTA Rootkeeper, unfreeze SDM and SEAndroid and take the OTA update? Will I still have root access (again remember, I don't need to have unlocked bootloader)?
I ask because I'm very happy with everything on my phone the way it is - I like where my apps are, I like everything. I don't want to bother flashing roms - I just have no interest. I want to do the update and have everything the way it was and all my folders in their place (less the unlocked bootloader) and still have root for my programs like Titanium Backup and Greenify. super su - etc.
Please - any help would be appreciated.
Afaik, taking the update will ineed cost you your current root. However, I am on stock 4.3 and root using vroot and then used a script to uninstall the foreighn superuser app and add supersu. I have experienced no ill effects as of yet, though some would say that they aren't comfortable using this root method. There is no evidence to support it being entirely safe nor malicious in intent. It does provide root and you can keep all your apps data. Though...if you take the update, I would strongly suggest a factory reset to decrease potential problems...just my 2 cents buddy
Unlocked bootloader??? You should tell us how you did it so you can collect the huge bounty
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408
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richii0207 said:
Unlocked bootloader??? You should tell us how you did it so you can collect the huge bounty
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notice he said he was on MDK
T.C.P said:
notice he said he was on MDK
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So you're saying that it's possible with MDK?
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T.C.P said:
notice he said he was on MDK
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The bootloader is technically only bypassed through a Loki exploit, not unlocked.
For all intents & purposes that doesn't change anything to most users so I don't know what Richii was trying to get at.
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bjoostema said:
Afaik, taking the update will ineed cost you your current root. However, I am on stock 4.3 and root using vroot and then used a script to uninstall the foreighn superuser app and add supersu. I have experienced no ill effects as of yet, though some would say that they aren't comfortable using this root method. There is no evidence to support it being entirely safe nor malicious in intent. It does provide root and you can keep all your apps data. Though...if you take the update, I would strongly suggest a factory reset to decrease potential problems...just my 2 cents buddy
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My whole thing is I would really rather not do a factory reset??
Not sure what richi is getting at or if he actually read my post (mdk)?
mades32388 said:
My whole thing is I would really rather not do a factory reset??
Not sure what richi is getting at or if he actually read my post (mdk)?
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Just flash a stock rooted 4.3 rom. There problem solved
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Surge1223 said:
Just flash a stock rooted 4.3 rom. There problem solved
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Is thats what theyre calling a "dirty flash"? Can you tell me which rom is a stock 4.3?
mades32388 said:
My whole thing is I would really rather not do a factory reset??
Not sure what richi is getting at or if he actually read my post (mdk)?
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I read it clearly, you said you had an "unlocked" bootloader so I was curious on what process you used to unlock it.
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I have an MDK so I don't need it. But please do someone a favor, don't kill that MDK S4. Either just flash a rooted 4.3 that was designed for your MDK device, or sell it to someone so they have the opportunity to play with it. There are a ton of people on this forum stuck on the newer versions that would kill to get what you have.
Erievon said:
I have an MDK so I don't need it. But please do someone a favor, don't kill that MDK S4. Either just flash a rooted 4.3 that was designed for your MDK device, or sell it to someone so they have the opportunity to play with it. There are a ton of people on this forum stuck on the newer versions that would kill to get what you have.
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I won't kill it if I knew how to upgrade stock rom without losing my apps and data - lol. That's really my problem. Looks like there's a stock rom here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517611 - but there are so many files there. I have no idea what to do or which one to download? I don't know what Loki'd Kernel is or Aroma installer, deodexed, etc etc (and I don't have the time) - I just want to upgrade and keep my apps and data the way they are - lol. If after I upgrade it's no good - I'll go back to my backup.
I have MDK with TWRP installed.
Thanks!
mades32388 said:
I won't kill it if I knew how to upgrade stock rom without losing my apps and data - lol. That's really my problem. Looks like there's a stock rom here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517611 - but there are so many files there. I have no idea what to do or which one to download? I don't know what Loki'd Kernel is or Aroma installer, deodexed, etc etc (and I don't have the time) - I just want to upgrade and keep my apps and data the way they are - lol. If after I upgrade it's no good - I'll go back to my backup.
I have MDK with TWRP installed.
Thanks!
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Backup your apps & data using TiBu, then flash a stock 4.3 rom.
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I can walk you through the steps of flashing a ROM buddy, just PM me. I'll look around for a good 4.3 but it would be preferable for you to find a ROM that suits your needs. There are definitely a couple 4.3 options available, check 'em out and let me know if you want to proceed.
Hey guys, You may have noticed that ive been posting a few posts here and there and I also have a YouTube Channel Which is JackHasAnLG
Im going to start making more Xperia Z Ultra videos soon, Ive already got this one
Just a quick Unboxing
Reviews, Custom Roms and more to come, let me know if theres anything in specific you want to see
J
Cool stuff, we need one!
shaolin95 said:
Cool stuff, we need one!
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Yay someone commented!
Anything in particular? Obviously got the Unboxing and benchmarks, hoping to get the Sony magnetic dock and I have a S Case for it
mmmmm not sure, I used to have a Note 1 channel showing things others werent showing at the time like PS3 connectivity to run emulators, etc.
Maybe small videos showing people how easy it is to use the PS3 controller with it, some of the small apps that maybe people is not familar with to show what the phone can do before being big!
Car holder, etc.
Maybe others will give more ideas but surely testing new ROMS will give you a nice following for people that prefer to wait before flashing new stuff
Oh a maybe some detailed flashing guide. .....hey you ask for more
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mmmmm not sure, I used to have a Note 1 channel showing things others werent showing at the time like PS3 connectivity to run emulators, etc.
Maybe small videos showing people how easy it is to use the PS3 controller with it, some of the small apps that maybe people is not familar with to show what the phone can do before being big!
Car holder, etc.
Maybe others will give more ideas but surely testing new ROMS will give you a nice following for people that prefer to wait before flashing new stuff
Oh a maybe some detailed flashing guide. .....hey you ask for more
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Aha brilliant! It just so happens I have a PS3 controller
Ill have to get to work with some of these ideas, I wish more people would look at the thread and comment, its like a ghost time with the device
J
JackHanAnLG said:
Aha brilliant! It just so happens I have a PS3 controller
Ill have to get to work with some of these ideas, I wish more people would look at the thread and comment, its like a ghost time with the device
J
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I'd love it if you can take a look at the rooting 290 with a locked bootloader thread and make a video detailing the process from recovery up until it is fully functioning - so all the flashing, wiping, etc.
Thanks so much.
hassanmahmood said:
I'd love it if you can take a look at the rooting 290 with a locked bootloader thread and make a video detailing the process from recovery up until it is fully functioning - so all the flashing, wiping, etc.
Thanks so much.
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Ill try and get around it to!
Although im not sure you can unlock the bootloader on 4.3?
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Ill try and get around it to!
Although im not sure you can unlock the bootloader on 4.3?
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I'm talking about the method for a locked bootloader.
Upgrading to a pre rooted .290 Rom whilst maintaining a locked bootloader
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I'm talking about the method for a locked bootloader.
Upgrading to a pre rooted .290 Rom whilst maintaining a locked bootloader
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Oh okay Rooting 4.3 with a locked bootloader, cool
Are there any methods to un-root? as I havent looked and once im rooted ill un root and do a video of that, plus i have no need for root at this point
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Oh okay Rooting 4.3 with a locked bootloader, cool
Are there any methods to un-root? as I havent looked and once im rooted ill un root and do a video of that, plus i have no need for root at this point
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I successfully unrooted 532 by simply going into SuperSU and choosing to uninstall through there.
Not sure if the same applies to .290 - but I can't imagine why it wouldn't?
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I successfully unrooted 532 by simply going into SuperSU and choosing to uninstall through there.
Not sure if the same applies to .290 - but I can't imagine why it wouldn't?
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Thats true, I forgot about the SU app letting you un root via it, its pretty cool is that really worth a video though? haha
J
JackHanAnLG said:
Thats true, I forgot about the SU app letting you un root via it, its pretty cool is that really worth a video though? haha
J
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I think that's pretty straightforward - unless you get bored and want an additional video to add to the collection. lol.
I've been following the methods posted in the Locked BL rooted 290 thread - just not familiar with flashing to the extent I'd like which is why I was hoping for a video that goes through the process step-by-step from rooting .532, to installing recovery, to all the flashing and ultimately to having a fully working pre-rooted .290 ROM without any boot loops or booting issues.
You could technically start from the downgrading from .290 part if you wanted to make it a complete overview - but I think most people are able to downgrade from .290 to .532 without a problem - the complications arise when trying to go back to a rooted .290
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I think that's pretty straightforward - unless you get bored and want an additional video to add to the collection. lol.
I've been following the methods posted in the Locked BL rooted 290 thread - just not familiar with flashing to the extent I'd like which is why I was hoping for a video that goes through the process step-by-step from rooting .532, to installing recovery, to all the flashing and ultimately to having a fully working pre-rooted .290 ROM without any boot loops or booting issues.
You could technically start from the downgrading from .290 part if you wanted to make it a complete overview - but I think most people are able to downgrade from .290 to .532 without a problem - the complications arise when trying to go back to a rooted .290
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I dont see why sony make it so hard. I had a galaxy S3 beforehand, a nexus 4 and even my older LG 2X just plugged into a computer, USB debugging and a piece of software and that was it
I love my shiney new Xperia Z2 - but I also miss my beloved Nexus 5 and Pure Android.
What features/abilities will I lose Rooting/Roming my Xperia? I remember on the Original Z that it screwed all the DRM stuff and you lost your fancy camera and other abilities.
I am used to using TWRP recovery and flashing at will without having to worry about ADB/Fastboot crap - is that Also still an issue with Xperias?
All opinions welcomed, flames and trolls - not so much
Thanks
I guess , I mean by rooting you should know your warranty is voided but I never heard of losing abilities to use certain apps or processes in fact it gives you access to more apps that require root for example some roms include very cool features that only the Z3 has them which you can never get on your Z2 unless you use custom roms ...
in short , if you know what you are doing while rooting and 100% sure you know what you are doing isnt going to harm your device adding to that that you are a root loving guy who likes customizing his phone then yes sure go ahead in fact its so cool to root! But !
If any of the above is answered negatively by you then dont root
PS : there are some root methods that are so simple that dont require any advanced knowledge you just follow easy step by step 8 minutes video on how to root . You can check in google (How to root xperia z2) and you will get it done easily
simple as that
hope I helped you
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I guess , I mean by rooting you should know your warranty is voided but I never heard of losing abilities to use certain apps or processes in fact it gives you access to more apps that require root for example some roms include very cool features that only the Z3 has them which you can never get on your Z2 unless you use custom roms ...
in short , if you know what you are doing while rooting and 100% sure you know what you are doing isnt going to harm your device adding to that that you are a root loving guy who likes customizing his phone then yes sure go ahead in fact its so cool to root! But !
If any of the above is answered negatively by you then dont root
simple as that
hope I helped you
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I'm no noob to rooting/flashing phones, been at it for years - I'm just worried about Xperia-specific things like is it worth losing my DRM keys?
m2geek said:
I'm no noob to rooting/flashing phones, been at it for years
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Noob to searching
m2geek said:
I'm just worried about Xperia-specific things like is it worth losing my DRM keys?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743240
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o0 Matt 0o said:
Noob to searching
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743240
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Haha I'm a serial "ask questions" rather than search, usually can't find what I am looking for when I search
o0 Matt 0o said:
Noob to searching
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743240
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Also, Looks like I won't be flashing any roms anytime soon
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Also, Looks like I won't be flashing any roms anytime soon
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Hmm I gave you a bum steer. The link I quoted is relevant if you unlock your bootloader, not required for root. Rooting is easy there are heaps of guides. I'm sure you're aware, rooting will allow you to theme, customise and flash stock based roms, but you won't be able to flash cm or aosp or anything non-sony.
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I guess , I mean by rooting you should know your warranty is voided
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Have you got a link for this? Even unlocking your bootloader, the Sony website says you may void your warranty. Not will, MAY. Anyway, root, backup ta partition. Anything goes wrong, restore ta partition and relock bootloader.
Just don't do stupid stuff like over volt your CPU or increase the CPU heat tolerance out anything like that.
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rooting is generaly safe
there are mods for xperias and there are mods for all devices, its often safest to install these ones
also root gives you controll, i dont think rooting voids your warranty but i have yet to re-read the new warrenty info
drm keys are only lost when unlocking your bootloader
and rooting is easily undoable so have a mess around with root apps or root access, root is somewhat more freedom and make sure when you do install something , its for locked bootloaders, xperias or all devices 4.0 and above
Envious_Data said:
rooting is generaly safe
there are mods for xperias and there are mods for all devices, its often safest to install these ones
also root gives you controll, i dont think rooting voids your warranty but i have yet to re-read the new warrenty info
drm keys are only lost when unlocking your bootloader
and rooting is easily undoable so have a mess around with root apps or root access, root is somewhat more freedom and make sure when you do install something , its for locked bootloaders, xperias or all devices 4.0 and above
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Warranty information from the Sony website. I'm not sure if it is a UK only thing as this is from the UK website. I would assume that it would be worldwide to prevent confusion.
Sony Warranty Document (linked above) said:
Nor does this warranty cover any failure of the Product due to accident, software or hardware modification or adjustment, or acts of God.
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gamer649 said:
Warranty information from the Sony website. I'm not sure if it is a UK only thing as this is from the UK website. I would assume that it would be worldwide to prevent confusion.
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the sony warrenty is international, so it should apply globaly to all devices or so im told by sony customer support
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Warranty information from the Sony website. I'm not sure if it is a UK only thing as this is from the UK website. I would assume that it would be worldwide to prevent confusion.
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Yea I see what your saying but I sort of disagree. It states failures resulting from software changes, doesn't this mean if the failure is not from the software modification it is covered? Void means gone and I don't think that's the case.
E.g. You remove the heat threshold from the CPU and fry it = not covered.
Your microphone dies by its self = is covered.
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Yea I see what your saying but I sort of disagree. It states failures resulting from software changes, doesn't this mean if the failure is not from the software modification it is covered? Void means gone and I don't think that's the case.
E.g. You remove the heat threshold from the CPU and fry it = not covered.
Your microphone dies by its self = is covered.
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It could do, but as Sony are unable to ascertain what changes have been made / then unmade they could argue your mic failure was due to you fiddling with the gain. Hence the uncertainty, bear in mind with rooting simply flashing a stock tft removes evidence of tampering, whilst Sony know who has asked for an unlock code for their bootloader theoretically allowing them to decline warranty service even if you restore DRM keys and relock.
Rooting doesnt void your warranty as long as bootloader remains locked.....
There is a rootkit that properly root your z2 in less than a minute withouth unlocking the bootloader..and you can unroot anytime you decide to.
DRM keys are lost only after unlocking bootloader.
So lets root why a not? Root gives you control over everything, and if you mess up something you have backup in twrp so..
Thanks for all the replies and input guys
Think i'm just gonna leave it stock as long as tolerable and see if I can wait out Official lollipop builds before I do anything.
Learned the hardway last night not to delete the DCIM folder off the internal storage. Camera stopped working without a SD so had to factory reset lol.
NetSkill said:
So lets root why a not? Root gives you control over everything, and if you mess up something you have backup in twrp so..
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Because rooting compromises the security of your device, if the OP doesn't feel the need to root I'd say don't.
But what functionality is lost when the bootloader is unlocked (camera? audio? ), also, is it all gained back when drm is put back and relocked? ( if saved when rooted at beginning ofcourse )
Also, if my z2 says bootloader unlockable: NO.
Can I use the unofficial, easier, faster method to unlock it??
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But what functionality is lost when the bootloader is unlocked (camera? audio? ), also, is it all gained back when drm is put back and relocked? ( if saved when rooted at beginning ofcourse )
Also, if my z2 says bootloader unlockable: NO.
Can I use the unofficial, easier, faster method to unlock it??
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Just x-reailty
I did a test
And if your bootloader isnt unlockable, you cant unlock it using any method
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m2geek said:
I love my shiney new Xperia Z2 - but I also miss my beloved Nexus 5 and Pure Android.
What features/abilities will I lose Rooting/Roming my Xperia? I remember on the Original Z that it screwed all the DRM stuff and you lost your fancy camera and other abilities.
I am used to using TWRP recovery and flashing at will without having to worry about ADB/Fastboot crap - is that Also still an issue with Xperias?
All opinions welcomed, flames and trolls - not so much
Thanks
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If you miss Nexus just go back to nexus
you can compare no phone with nexus in term of modification and ...
when you unlock bootloader and get root access on official firmware you won't lose any of official (Xperia) apps
But of course no xperia apps on custom rom unless find port of these apps
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If you miss Nexus just go back to nexus
you can compare no phone with nexus in term of modification and ...
when you unlock bootloader and get root access on official firmware you won't lose any of official (Xperia) apps
But of course no xperia apps on custom rom unless find port of these apps
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Very true about the Nexus - i'm am starting to miss it, bless its flashed like crazy heart
I'm not too worried about losing Xperia apps (I hate the album app, gimmie back the aosp gallery!) I was more concerned about Camera & display quality software stuff.