using kitchen in I-9500 need tips - Galaxy S 4 Developer Discussion [Developers-Only]

Hi everybody!
Im from Argentina, sorry if my english isn`t the best.
Saying that, im trying to use kitchen to make a simple rom for my forum in argentina. no one there knows about it..
And is my first samsung ever, before i had HOX, atrix, rzr hd... so im not familiar with some stuff like knox, the archive hidden and so...
My first project trys to run up form an FW, the ins 4.4, but i get stuck and change it for a nand of russian FW...
At that point i cuold use the system.ext4.tar.a just taking out the .a
I worked with that in the kitchen and im worry if i reput the worked system inside the nand something goes wrong, sadlly i cant afford to loose this phone cause of its price...
i was searching a lot and reading very hard this pasts weeks but i cant find any guides to cook a little rom so any help is wellcome
Ty for reading this.
Augusto.

Please define a real question. Right now I have an answer that is just some information. no real specific answers
Since the only thing you need to target is the system folder and the kernel Knox isn't even coming close, this also counts for the hidden partition. unless you want to make an odin rom.. but since you use the kitchen you probably don't want to use it.
My advise, take a look at other touchwiz custom roms, and see how they did it. There is no reason you would brick your device by flashing a valid system with CWM (which is less 'aggressive' then odin 1:1 write), if you don't trust it, first try using a zip from some other rom and make some customizations inside it.
If you are an actual developer, read this, although I think you can't handle the truth :silly:
The biggest thing that you will explore in your journey to touchwiz when you've made ROMS for HTC is that
a. Samsung has really easy flashing methods without risking a brick so fast. (compared to HTC it feels unbrickable), this is really the best thing about Samsung (When using the S series, Note series suck as well)
b. Samsung is the absolute world #1 in writing terrible firmware for relatively good hardware. (wasted space, sad work arounds, strange daemons, infected by many unknown things such as NSA crap)
c. Samsung absolutely loves to pretend their fail stock rom is great (which is what the average android user (without developing knowledge) would think), although they know it actually sucks donkey balls
(i can continue until 'f' or 'g' but I think you get the point)
Just letting you know that this extra partitions are not required, If you don't want to deal with either Knox or the hidden partition or w/e bull**** touchwiz roms come with, just use a rom base that actually is still Android, like an AOSP based ROM. which does not require many weird ways
Some people may be very angry when reading this but it's the truth, the truth of a South Korean company that makes good hardware but always finds a way to screw up their good hardware with terrible firmware writing (not only phones also smarttv etc).
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broodplank1337 said:
Please define a real question. Right now I have an answer that is just some information. no real specific answers
Since the only thing you need to target is the system folder and the kernel Knox isn't even coming close, this also counts for the hidden partition. unless you want to make an odin rom.. but since you use the kitchen you probably don't want to use it.
My advise, take a look at other touchwiz custom roms, and see how they did it. There is no reason you would brick your device by flashing a valid system with CWM (which is less 'aggressive' then odin 1:1 write), if you don't trust it, first try using a zip from some other rom and make some customizations inside it.
If you are an actual developer, read this, although I think you can't handle the truth :silly:
The biggest thing that you will explore in your journey to touchwiz when you've made ROMS for HTC is that
a. Samsung has really easy flashing methods without risking a brick so fast. (compared to HTC it feels unbrickable), this is really the best thing about Samsung (When using the S series, Note series suck as well)
b. Samsung is the absolute world #1 in writing terrible firmware for relatively good hardware. (wasted space, sad work arounds, strange daemons, infected by many unknown things such as NSA crap)
c. Samsung absolutely loves to pretend their fail stock rom is great (which is what the average android user (without developing knowledge) would think), although they know it actually sucks donkey balls
(i can continue until 'f' or 'g' but I think you get the point)
Just letting you know that this extra partitions are not required, If you don't want to deal with either Knox or the hidden partition or w/e bull**** touchwiz roms come with, just use a rom base that actually is still Android, like an AOSP based ROM. which does not require many weird ways
Some people may be very angry when reading this but it's the truth, the truth of a South Korean company that makes good hardware but always finds a way to screw up their good hardware with terrible firmware writing (not only phones also smarttv etc).
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Ok u r wright there r no questions in my statement.
I was looking for tips as u just did...
Now a real quest can i use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549357 to de knox de s4 i9500 cause i wolud love to start from a FW and im kind of lost with hidden partition. I dont even know what it is...
its been an year since i cooked with the kitchen, Vipers are really great for HOX and it doesnt need my hand at all... so im rusty a little bit and scearish (?)...

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Whats up with the notification bar?

I have no clue why or who ever in Samsung development messed this up, but when you stream flash videos in full screen the notification does not auto hide. To me this is completely unacceptable as it ruins the possibility of "full screen" and it can actually damage the oled in these phones.
I think this fix should be a MUST for any developer currently making rooms for this phone. The only from currently that I know of that fixes it is Cyanogen.. but I do want a stable ICS and oh boy can't we all dream of a perfect aosp from... dreams of super fast clean friendly user experience...
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They are still beta builds so stop moaning until we get official roms.
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I think this fix should be a MUST for any developer currently making rooms for this phone.
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And you feel that you can issue demands to the devs because...?? Why are you so special?
Why be a dev if your goal is half ass roms? The only thing I'm wondering is why has this not been addressed by the community? Why is this still "OK" and why are trolls immediately the only ones present in this forum?
There's a Q&A for ya..
Its funny how you think my suggestion is un warranted. I just desperately want to ruin my phone with burn in right?
It's not your suggestion, it's your attitude.
airninja6r said:
Why be a dev if your goal is half ass roms? The only thing I'm wondering is why has this not been addressed by the community? Why is this still "OK" and why are trolls immediately the only ones present in this forum?
There's a Q&A for ya..
Its funny how you think my suggestion is un warranted. I just desperately want to ruin my phone with burn in right?
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AS said above, it looks like your are running ICS which is in beta and has not been officially released, you are complaining about an unfinished, unofficially released BETA rom.
You may need some time of reflection and a lot of reading to understand what you are doing......
Why be a dev if your goal is half ass roms?
You answer your question yourself why build a rom based on a half assed buggy beta release .
Put in a very simple way . Why waste time on a buggy beta build that may be very different come release day .
When ICS is released and if a dev thinks its worth fixing your problem i am sure they will .
jje
OK it sounds like no one understood , I will attempt to explain this better. This is NOT an ICS problem this problem is with EVERY rom including stock update strait from Kies. I went as far as contacting Samsung to get a fix, but as you can see in my profile I live in the US and the US Samsung will not help me with my UK phone. Why everything between us is so divided beats me but still the issue remains.
As I stated currently the only rom that fixes it is Cyanogen but just as JJ stated why use a buggy beta when the release will be much different/better. Also I am currently running ICS and have not encountered a single bug. Everything works perfect except for Samsung's stupid attempt to burn in my screen. I don't know about everyone else but I paid $580 for this phone and the last thing I want is a permanent" 3g" on my screen...
airninja6r said:
OK it sounds like no one understood , I will attempt to explain this better. This is NOT an ICS problem this problem is with EVERY rom including stock update strait from Kies. I went as far as contacting Samsung to get a fix, but as you can see in my profile I live in the US and the US Samsung will not help me with my UK phone. Why everything between us is so divided beats me but still the issue remains.
As I stated currently the only rom that fixes it is Cyanogen but just as JJ stated why use a buggy beta when the release will be much different/better. Also I am currently running ICS and have not encountered a single bug. Everything works perfect except for Samsung's stupid attempt to burn in my screen. I don't know about everyone else but I paid $580 for this phone and the last thing I want is a permanent" 3g" on my screen...
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Then give us more information. Saying that streaming videos don't go full screen is no where near enough. What ROM, website, browser etc are you using because the last time I tried this (Not long after the S2 was released) it worked just fine. I tried a 720p video from megaupload and it went full screen just fine. Same with youtube/youtube app. Give more information, not attitude. Also, i'd wager than there is zero chance of your display burning in a 3G icon. Perhaps the full notification bar if you use MIUI/a white or light theme but I highly doubt the majority of people will experience any burn in, never mind such a small specific burn in.
Fair enough.. more info. I usually run completely stock and decided to play around with ics. A main site I stream with is twitch.TV (I am a big starcraft2 player and use the pro streams to get better) while I'm at work I watch for hours sometimes 7 hours straight. This WILL cause burn in.
When the problem occurs:
Watching ANY true flash video online(not YouTube app) while in full screen mode in any browser or Rom besides cyanogen.
If you don't believe me test it yourself. Go to twitch.TV pick a stream let the video load and click the full screen button. If you have a rom that the notification bar disappears let me know and you won't hear.me "moan" anymore.
Or maybe one of you super nice Brits can call UK Samsung and get an official fix. The number is 08702420303.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197496
oinkylicious said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197496
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Does this work on the new ICS browser? I only see 2.xx on there. It would be a beneficial trade but I just started enjoying the new browser :/
airninja6r said:
Does this work on the new ICS browser? I only see 2.xx on there. It would be a beneficial trade but I just started enjoying the new browser :/
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Download the diff, check for relevant changes (there's not many for fullscreen) and mod your own browser. Before you ask, I'm not going to hold your hand on this one, and am not willing to do it for you either (I don't use an ICS ROM).
Not asking for any hand holding or hand outs for that matter.. one last question can it be done completely from the phone?
Actually nvm that browser mod will not work with ics. Even states in that post "should be comparable with 2.3.x roms.
airninja6r said:
Actually nvm that browser mod will not work with ics.
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Sure it will, you just have to be willing to put in some work. Namely, as I already said, downloading the diff, checking for relevant changes (I think there's only two changes relating to full screen) and getting them into your Browser.apk. You're probably going to need to do some reading.
Judging by this part of your post:
airninja6r said:
one last question can it be done completely from the phone?
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I'm going to make a guess you won't bother with this.

[SURVEY] Tell us your developing climbing!

Hi people, let's try an istructive game.
Try to tell each other our experience with the Android world, how we arrived to the point we are and what we can do now. I try to explain better.
What do you have to write:
How much time ago did you arrive to Android?
What did you know then about information technology and programming?
How did you start to learn more? Was it difficult?
At which point are you now? Are you a simple user, a rooted user/superuser, a cooker, a porter, a themer, a modder or... a developer?
What's your position in the Android world for you now? Is it a hobby, a passion or a job?
What do you like most your knowledge about Android? Money, importance in your device section, freedom, or knowledge itself?
What do you still want to learn and know?
If you want, you can give us the links to your ROMs, applications and portings.
Everithing else I forget.
For example, I consider myself a rooted user and a bad porter, and until now I just ported and cooked a ROM. I'm here because an year ago I wanted a tablet. Then a lot of people used to buy an iPad, but casually (neither do I remember why, but I believe it was a good choice) I bought a Galaxy Tab, the old P1000 from Samsung. Then I casually (again) read in a computer magazine something about rooting and ROMs to better Android devices, and then, with a lot of fear, I started to learn something about it. I only knew (and know now) something about Visual Basic, HTML, CSS and PHP, but as developer I've always been terrible. Now I want to learn something about Java and start building my own applications.
I believe with this surveys less experienced people could be helped to know what they have to do to quicken their developing climbing!
For example, I would like to learn something from Chainfire...
I entered the android world on may 2012 with my brand new Sony live with walkman... World could have been no better .. Then someday I ran into rooting tutorials ... Consoling my heart and out of curiosity , I decided to give it a go .. ( I feared about bricking my device because I got it after a lot of innocent request from parents when I passed 10th grade ( March 2012 )
.. And guess what ? I received a Bootloop while flashing my first custom ROM ( CYANOGEN ) ... The fear had turned into a heinous monster which I dreaded the most ...
And now .. I believe I've plenty knowledge of the android but still there is much more to learn ... I can root / flash / ... debug most roms... Program.. ( java/c++ have been a cakewalk for me , no. Flattery)..Yes android has become my passion..... I'm currently working on cooking my own custom ROM... Hmm.... Geek at work ..
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rachit.rc96 said:
I entered the android world on may 2012 with my brand new Sony live with walkman... World could have been no better .. Then someday I ran into rooting tutorials ... Consoling my heart and out of curiosity , I decided to give it a go .. ( I feared about bricking my device because I got it after a lot of innocent request from parents when I passed 10th grade ( March 2012 )
.. And guess what ? I received a Bootloop while flashing my first custom ROM ( CYANOGEN ) ... The fear had turned into a heinous monster which I dreaded the most ...
And now .. I believe I've plenty knowledge of the android but still there is much more to learn ... I can root / flash / ... debug most roms... Program.. ( java/c++ have been a cakewalk for me , no. Flattery)..Yes android has become my passion..... I'm currently working on cooking my own custom ROM... Hmm.... Geek at work ..
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Good job! This was exactly what I wanted! I give you a Thanks as the first person who replied to the topic.
Good luck for your rom!
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I bought my first Android phone 4 months ago... Knew nothing about it... And i know no languages(java, etc)... About 15 days later while searching for some cool app to showoff i read somewhere "for rooted devices only" So i searched about root and then more and more... I got devil inside me awakened and searched for how to do all of it on my phone... and next day i rooted my phone but when restated after flashing cwm recovery i got a boot loop... I was so in danger... Posted for help on all fourms which were about android including xda... Then waited (not even 3hours lol) but no reply so started to mess around and luckily flashed stock rom... Then rooted again but no cwm... after few days i saw an email from xda about a reply on my post... i was so overconfident (in reality knew nothing what xda is) that posted a Warez on xda for which i got an infraction... Then around 2.5 months ago first rom for galaxy ace plus by teamcooper was out and fixed cwm... 2 months ago i saw a guide to make ROM... And now i am only one who cooks roms for galaxy ace plus and is active on this device... i made 3 different rom for galaxy ace plus and currently working on a ics theme and want to learn developing app and more... i don't think i am a developer, i am still a noob... Till i become a recognised cintributer... I Will apply for it when i get rid of infarction...
EDIT: can you tell me about some good guide to make an app... Not those which are too basic like making hello apps... I want to make an app with root permission i have few ideas of apps i want to make...
Officially, I arrived to the Android World in June 2011, but months ago I already knew about Android (several friends have Android devices).
In this moment, I have basic knowledge about C/C++, Java and Lua programming (need help? send me a PM ). For me learn more was relatively easy, since I already knew programming when I purchased my device. The thing was: Apply the knowledge to the Android world.
Actually I'm a rooted user and a development learner. I have few time ( the University...) so I consider myself as an "ocasional developer". Android for me (as other platforms) is more than a hobby, but less than a passion. I can say that I program apps... for me. I'm very glad to see my apps running in my device (and others... xD), but I don't expect earn money for it (very basic apps and widgets, but useful for me... nothing interesting).
I still have much to learn, right now I wish to learn OpenGL, to take full advantage of the hardware acceleration (Braid, Mario, Megaman, Space Invaders? Yeah ).
One of my works, a widget to easily and quickly change between several CPU governors or CPU Frequencies (need root, of course). Looks ugly, but it's very useful for me
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lokeshsaini94 said:
I want to make an app with root permission i have few ideas of apps i want to make...
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What are you trying to do? Get root access is very simple (easy way: Runtime.getRuntime().exec ("su"). If you wish to run more shell commands as root, use RootTools instead)
I've entered android world at the beginning of this year with my Sony Xperia Play (bought it because of game functionalities). And then it started... I was amazed with all, that android can offer. I wanted to be a part of this, so I started to learn java. Right now, I'm at the stage of writing my first apps. This basically takes most of my free time after regular job. Hoping, that my hobby will be growing and maybe will become the way of living.

what is going with rooting i am sick and tired of all this

I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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hykhleif said:
I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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Its simple. If you want root... and can't do it, then don't upgrade the firmware.
There is a mind set that people have... (me included somewhat)...
... its that we want 'updates' and think that it going to make our device so much better or faster than before. Reality is that despite a couple of fix's that we have had recently, the updates are not essential. or have not improved our experience dramatically. There is no need to update... its not going to give you much.
for me root is essential. I wont be updating to 290 unless I can get my ROM rooted and full working.
I know I'm ranting.... but when in Rome... :victory:
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LORDDDDD man I love your replies to my threads, I am starting to enjoy that you watch all my posts.
But seriously is that going to be the trend for getting root from now on that we have to wait for long times. I hope not. As root is very important for me as I use gl2sd app to move my big games to external sd.
why Is rooting a certain device more difficult than others, is because we don't have too many developers that bought our device. I just would like to know.
why for example samsung devices almost instantly get root?
hykhleif said:
LORDDDDD man I love your replies to my threads, I am starting to enjoy that you watch all my posts.
But seriously is that going to be the trend for getting root from now on that we have to wait for long times. I hope not. As root is very important for me as I use gl2sd app to move my big games to external sd.
why Is rooting a certain device more difficult than others, is because we don't have too many developers that bought our device. I just would like to know.
why for example samsung devices almost instantly get root?
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You want unlocked phone right? Unlock bootloader then, as simple as it gets.
Samsung is different because:
1. A lot of consumer which are hackers too, there
2. Samsung device is battery removable, indicating that it is much easier to access the device hardware wise. It was easy to semi-'unlock' my Xperia Ray due to removable battery.
3. AFAIK with all this, it seems that Samsung's devices is not as secure as Sony's devices. Have heard about rootkit virus in Desktop? Yeah the same problem came into mind with a rootable device which is insecure to hacker attack to alter the system partition.
So the only way out if you MUST have ROOT is to unlock the bootloader (i.e. it is purely your device, no Sony warranty will cover it). Unless some extreme hacker more extreme than our friend DoomLord could find the hole while keeping bootloader locked, we can wave goodbye to root in the mean time. Even if the mentioned miracle happens, Sony will quickly patch the hole for you
hykhleif said:
I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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Lord Manhattan is not the one you should worry about but rather moderators...
Root is achieved through exploits as they do represent a security breach in the OS. In other words, root is a double edged sword as giving permissions to the wrong app for the wrong thing could lead to bad consequences. Because companies don't exactly feel like being liable for leaving a "vulnerable device" in the shelves, they normally tend to tighten things like this up.
Devs on xda (and the entire Android community for that matter) work very hard to bring you the exploits. Getting impatient and ranting about your discontent will only make you look like self entitled and will do nothing but to give an open entry for people who love the community to flame you to smithereens...
With that being said, I am closing your thread. Please don't post like this anymore.... it is entirely useless and you will do nothing other than piss people off.

If you're tired, annoyed or aggravated with O roms, root, or TWRP read here:

Guys I bought this device when it first came out, never did I ever think there would be zero dev interest in the device, or perhaps it would be better to state that the reason there isn't much in the way of dev interest is because Huawei has this device locked down with EMUI and it appears no one can break through. For those who don't need root then this doesn't really matter, but most of my apps do require root. My final solution was to forget the Huawei device and I bought what I believe is the most powerful device on the market today and I've already rooted it and I'm flying along. That device is the Asus Rog Phone 2, you might want to take a look at this and then decide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wwe5OW_jPE
I wish all of you the very best but I had enough of Huawei. To be fair I don't think the problem is all about Huawei, a big part of it is the clown in the White House.
I'm out of here, Krissy
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Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
Take a look here.
rubiicon59 said:
Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
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I'm not a gamer either, my philosophy however is that gaming devices are more reliable and sturdy because of the punishment they take from actual gamer's. My thought is it if holds up for a gamer then it should be no problem for me. So far this phone has proven me correct. One of the specs that blows me away is that there is a setting to set the device to 240 refresh, that's pretty darn quick. If you have any questions I'm open to answering them, that's how impressed I am with this puppy
Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
"All your apps" require root? Your phone sounds FUN! Seriously, no games? No social media? I agree, a lot of apps need root, all of which are important, if you're rooted. Ad-block is the main reason for rooting, but you can't just have ad-block, you need Magisk manager, obviously. And twrp manager, because you need twrp to flash your root. Root browser, for those times you need to fix things you screwed up by being rooted. Greenify, to act as a placebo, because now you're rooted you can't be sure things work as they should. Busy Box for... erm, well nobody really knows what that's for. So yeah that's at least 6 apps. For one thing.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
astralbee said:
Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
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100% completely agree with you. Have rooted all my android phones in the last 10 years and bought P30 Pro knowing couldn't root it. I use adguard private DNS to block ads and then found out can used YouTube vanced on non rooted phones by simply installing the apk. After thinking could never live without root I'm finding it particularly easy at the moment!
I've rooted every Android phone I've ever had, except my Honor 9, but don't really feel the need for the P30 Pro. Sure there are apps I can't use or install because I'm not rooted but that doesn't detract from an amazing phone. Those [required root ] apps I can probably do without anyway.
Would you run Linux as root permanently? Really?
The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
I am also disappointed but these days there is less and less reason for root. Right not, there are only three features I miss without root:
1. No Titanium Backup, so no easy way to do a full backup and make sure everything is backed up and can be restored
2. No way to limit battery charge (so it doesnt go up to 100%)
3. No DNS adblock (VPN work around is the closest I can find but that seems like it would drain battery)
rubiicon59 said:
The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
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Android is NOT "marketed as open source". Show me a commercial website where it is "marketed" as such.
Android IS open source for OEMs to adapt to their devices! You bought a piece of hardware from Huawei, with a compiled Android OS. You can get the source code for Android if you want, but it comes with no hardware and no guarantee.
And your car analogy is terrible. Imagine modifying your car's software... and then your tachometer doesn't work right, or your battery drains, or your car won't start... totally unacceptable. Yet you want to do that to your phone?
I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
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I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
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The closest analogy for the car example is remapping the ECU. Manufacturers go to great lengths to encrypt ECUs and prevent mapping - much like locking a bootloader.
A lot of car mappers have to physically solder wires to certain points on the ECU circuitboard to enable them to map and edit the ECU programming. I'm fairly certain that if you went to that extreme to root your phone you could manage it, but nobody wants root *that* much.
And if you own a car that no engine mapper fancies finding a way to map? You're SOL - much like you are with your P30 Pro.
I used to root, now I dont. I find the devices now do 99% of the things I need without root. The 1%? I can live without Titanium Backup.
I'm sure the Asus device is powerful, but a lot of the people here bought the P30 Pro because they wanted a P30 Pro, not a different phone. Thanks for the review, but it's like going on a VW forum and saying 'OMG guys, sell up and go buy this BMW - IT'S AMAZING' - we're here because we wanted the VW...
@Isis111
Now you've had your ROG 2 for a while how are you getting along with it?
Since this thread I've been following the ROG 2 forum but even though root is available there's not much development happening. I was initially very interested after you started this thread but now I'm not sure the ROG 2 is as good as you said.
So I'm interested what your thoughts are now.
Also, what version do you have, and have you been impressed enough to buy any accessories?
Cheers

Question Pixel 6 DeGoogle tips?

Did some reading and there are a few guides but not sure what might be best for this new Pixel6.
Whilst I wait for the ability to use a Google-Free ROM, is there an app or script or list of apps/services to disable etc that would work i can follow?
I'm kinda wanting to have a play with this phone but don't want it updating itself or tracking me...
I'm with you in this, impatiently waiting for Calyx/Graphene A12 and P6 support. Unfortunately, I don't think there's much we can do until then. Just restrict as many permissions as you can, don't sign in to too many things and use websites instead of apps when possible
I always stayed away from anything that is Chrome related.
I use Duckduckgo as my browser.
Brave is another...
axelmasok said:
Did some reading and there are a few guides but not sure what might be best for this new Pixel6.
Whilst I wait for the ability to use a Google-Free ROM, is there an app or script or list of apps/services to disable etc that would work i can follow?
I'm kinda wanting to have a play with this phone but don't want it updating itself or tracking me...
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As of now there r no custom roms for pixel 6 so inorder to degoogle u would have to extract the g apps from the factory firmware and then flash it that way but I've never done that myself
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Aulgreg38 said:
As of now there r no custom roms for pixel 6 so inorder to degoogle u would have to extract the g apps from the factory firmware and then flash it that way but I've never done that myself
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IT would be best to wait for a custom ROM to sideload
Yeah,uhumm..Me too want a Google phone without Google apps.Yes,uhumm also i want a stable OS without bugs and good performance, good battery life too.But not the way Google make the phone, the chip and HIS operating system.no, no,no i want to archive this any other way possible.Then U see this dude coming back with "I don't know what's happening, I have a lot of bugs and a lot of app crashing. My system is unstable. I don't want this phone.Copy his user name and wait..
Here are the apps I froze. I could probably freeze more but it's a good start i'd say. I didn't sign in to any google account. It's not perfect but that's temporary, patiently waiting for custom ROMs too
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Yep I guess we wait for the clean ROMS and such.
Thanks for sharing tomatot - I have done a bit of that already. Will check your list against mine
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Yep I guess we wait for the clean ROMS and such.
Thanks for sharing tomatot - I have done a bit of that already. Will check your list against mine
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Sure, let me know if I missed any other app that seems important to freeze.
I don't know if any of you realize this, but p6/p6p have first class support in aosp. Take 15 minutes to read the instructions and build it from source yourself.
I'm running a self built aosp12r14 on my p6p right now and even typing this message from it.
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I don't know if any of you realize this, but p6/p6p have first class support in aosp. Take 15 minutes to read the instructions and build it from source yourself.
I'm running a self built aosp12r14 on my p6p right now and even typing this message from it.
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It'd be nice if you'd share your build with the community. Is everything working including fingerprint scanner?
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It'd be nice if you'd share your build with the community. Is everything working including fingerprint scanner?
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1) My build wouldn't help you. Like I said, its for p6p, not the basic-p6 in here.
2) 15 minutes of reading is all it takes to figure out how to build it yourself. The security risk of using something built by someone you don't know doesn't justify it.
3) couldn't tell you about fingerprint sensors, biometric security isn't protected by anti-self-incrimination laws, so I would never use and recommend that nobody ever use it. You should only use knowledge-based security.
I guess we are lazy? Or an underestimated minority?
I'm wondering why an AOSP build isn't available already from some kind person, or even a walk through with comments and experiences from someone already on this planet? Nothing on Youtube either.
Or is it so easy people do it quietly and assume it's common knowledge.
You know they make phones without Google installed on them, right? They are called iPhones and are pretty popular too.
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You know they make phones without Google installed on them, right? They are called iPhones and are pretty popular too.
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You realize that those are 100% closed source and locked and completely and utterly useless?
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You realize that those are 100% closed source and locked and completely and utterly useless?
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Yes, which is why I use only Android phones.
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Yes, which is why I use only Android phones.
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You can enjoy Android without enjoying Google bloat/spyware you know...
I think they are just joking with the iPhone jib so no need to overreact all.
I read up on source.android.com and it all looks well documented yes. But.
400G of free HDD space, 60GB+ of source to download, overnight compiling....
I've not done it before, let alone testing on a brand new phone...plus with 2 kids and a puppy and not much sleep...
If your in your 20s and have a couple of Pixel phones and lots of free time - have a go and let us know your experiences creating a ROM. If it works on your P6, I'll try it on mine
Those many GB is not that much these days. Not like anyone is using 9600 bps dialup any more. And overnight compiles are not that bad, not like you really need to watch it. Set it to go and go to bed.
Or if you have a faster computer, just give it an hour.
But I do hear you on the kids and dog getting in the way. I have 3 kids under 10 and a dog. Oh, I'm an accountant.
It's funny that people use Android and try to De-Google their phone.
What is even more hilarious is buying a phone actually made by Google themselves and trying to De-Goolge that same device

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