I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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hykhleif said:
I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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Its simple. If you want root... and can't do it, then don't upgrade the firmware.
There is a mind set that people have... (me included somewhat)...
... its that we want 'updates' and think that it going to make our device so much better or faster than before. Reality is that despite a couple of fix's that we have had recently, the updates are not essential. or have not improved our experience dramatically. There is no need to update... its not going to give you much.
for me root is essential. I wont be updating to 290 unless I can get my ROM rooted and full working.
I know I'm ranting.... but when in Rome... :victory:
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LORDDDDD man I love your replies to my threads, I am starting to enjoy that you watch all my posts.
But seriously is that going to be the trend for getting root from now on that we have to wait for long times. I hope not. As root is very important for me as I use gl2sd app to move my big games to external sd.
why Is rooting a certain device more difficult than others, is because we don't have too many developers that bought our device. I just would like to know.
why for example samsung devices almost instantly get root?
hykhleif said:
LORDDDDD man I love your replies to my threads, I am starting to enjoy that you watch all my posts.
But seriously is that going to be the trend for getting root from now on that we have to wait for long times. I hope not. As root is very important for me as I use gl2sd app to move my big games to external sd.
why Is rooting a certain device more difficult than others, is because we don't have too many developers that bought our device. I just would like to know.
why for example samsung devices almost instantly get root?
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You want unlocked phone right? Unlock bootloader then, as simple as it gets.
Samsung is different because:
1. A lot of consumer which are hackers too, there
2. Samsung device is battery removable, indicating that it is much easier to access the device hardware wise. It was easy to semi-'unlock' my Xperia Ray due to removable battery.
3. AFAIK with all this, it seems that Samsung's devices is not as secure as Sony's devices. Have heard about rootkit virus in Desktop? Yeah the same problem came into mind with a rootable device which is insecure to hacker attack to alter the system partition.
So the only way out if you MUST have ROOT is to unlock the bootloader (i.e. it is purely your device, no Sony warranty will cover it). Unless some extreme hacker more extreme than our friend DoomLord could find the hole while keeping bootloader locked, we can wave goodbye to root in the mean time. Even if the mentioned miracle happens, Sony will quickly patch the hole for you
hykhleif said:
I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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Lord Manhattan is not the one you should worry about but rather moderators...
Root is achieved through exploits as they do represent a security breach in the OS. In other words, root is a double edged sword as giving permissions to the wrong app for the wrong thing could lead to bad consequences. Because companies don't exactly feel like being liable for leaving a "vulnerable device" in the shelves, they normally tend to tighten things like this up.
Devs on xda (and the entire Android community for that matter) work very hard to bring you the exploits. Getting impatient and ranting about your discontent will only make you look like self entitled and will do nothing but to give an open entry for people who love the community to flame you to smithereens...
With that being said, I am closing your thread. Please don't post like this anymore.... it is entirely useless and you will do nothing other than piss people off.
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Hi everybody!
Im from Argentina, sorry if my english isn`t the best.
Saying that, im trying to use kitchen to make a simple rom for my forum in argentina. no one there knows about it..
And is my first samsung ever, before i had HOX, atrix, rzr hd... so im not familiar with some stuff like knox, the archive hidden and so...
My first project trys to run up form an FW, the ins 4.4, but i get stuck and change it for a nand of russian FW...
At that point i cuold use the system.ext4.tar.a just taking out the .a
I worked with that in the kitchen and im worry if i reput the worked system inside the nand something goes wrong, sadlly i cant afford to loose this phone cause of its price...
i was searching a lot and reading very hard this pasts weeks but i cant find any guides to cook a little rom so any help is wellcome
Ty for reading this.
Augusto.
Please define a real question. Right now I have an answer that is just some information. no real specific answers
Since the only thing you need to target is the system folder and the kernel Knox isn't even coming close, this also counts for the hidden partition. unless you want to make an odin rom.. but since you use the kitchen you probably don't want to use it.
My advise, take a look at other touchwiz custom roms, and see how they did it. There is no reason you would brick your device by flashing a valid system with CWM (which is less 'aggressive' then odin 1:1 write), if you don't trust it, first try using a zip from some other rom and make some customizations inside it.
If you are an actual developer, read this, although I think you can't handle the truth :silly:
The biggest thing that you will explore in your journey to touchwiz when you've made ROMS for HTC is that
a. Samsung has really easy flashing methods without risking a brick so fast. (compared to HTC it feels unbrickable), this is really the best thing about Samsung (When using the S series, Note series suck as well)
b. Samsung is the absolute world #1 in writing terrible firmware for relatively good hardware. (wasted space, sad work arounds, strange daemons, infected by many unknown things such as NSA crap)
c. Samsung absolutely loves to pretend their fail stock rom is great (which is what the average android user (without developing knowledge) would think), although they know it actually sucks donkey balls
(i can continue until 'f' or 'g' but I think you get the point)
Just letting you know that this extra partitions are not required, If you don't want to deal with either Knox or the hidden partition or w/e bull**** touchwiz roms come with, just use a rom base that actually is still Android, like an AOSP based ROM. which does not require many weird ways
Some people may be very angry when reading this but it's the truth, the truth of a South Korean company that makes good hardware but always finds a way to screw up their good hardware with terrible firmware writing (not only phones also smarttv etc).
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Please define a real question. Right now I have an answer that is just some information. no real specific answers
Since the only thing you need to target is the system folder and the kernel Knox isn't even coming close, this also counts for the hidden partition. unless you want to make an odin rom.. but since you use the kitchen you probably don't want to use it.
My advise, take a look at other touchwiz custom roms, and see how they did it. There is no reason you would brick your device by flashing a valid system with CWM (which is less 'aggressive' then odin 1:1 write), if you don't trust it, first try using a zip from some other rom and make some customizations inside it.
If you are an actual developer, read this, although I think you can't handle the truth :silly:
The biggest thing that you will explore in your journey to touchwiz when you've made ROMS for HTC is that
a. Samsung has really easy flashing methods without risking a brick so fast. (compared to HTC it feels unbrickable), this is really the best thing about Samsung (When using the S series, Note series suck as well)
b. Samsung is the absolute world #1 in writing terrible firmware for relatively good hardware. (wasted space, sad work arounds, strange daemons, infected by many unknown things such as NSA crap)
c. Samsung absolutely loves to pretend their fail stock rom is great (which is what the average android user (without developing knowledge) would think), although they know it actually sucks donkey balls
(i can continue until 'f' or 'g' but I think you get the point)
Just letting you know that this extra partitions are not required, If you don't want to deal with either Knox or the hidden partition or w/e bull**** touchwiz roms come with, just use a rom base that actually is still Android, like an AOSP based ROM. which does not require many weird ways
Some people may be very angry when reading this but it's the truth, the truth of a South Korean company that makes good hardware but always finds a way to screw up their good hardware with terrible firmware writing (not only phones also smarttv etc).
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Ok u r wright there r no questions in my statement.
I was looking for tips as u just did...
Now a real quest can i use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549357 to de knox de s4 i9500 cause i wolud love to start from a FW and im kind of lost with hidden partition. I dont even know what it is...
its been an year since i cooked with the kitchen, Vipers are really great for HOX and it doesnt need my hand at all... so im rusty a little bit and scearish (?)...
So it's been a while since I've used a samsung device (note 3). Normally, the first thing I do when I get a new phone is root it, but I'm concerned that samsung pay will require knox to be intact. Any thoughts? Was a way to reset knox ever discovered for newer samsung phones? Just thinking out loud.
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So it's been a while since I've used a samsung device (note 3). Normally, the first thing I do when I get a new phone is root it, but I'm concerned that samsung pay will require knox to be intact. Any thoughts? Was a way to reset knox ever discovered for newer samsung phones? Just thinking out loud.
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The only thought to be had about the matter right now is, it might require KNOX, it might not.
It's not even a thing at the moment, so there's just no real information about it out there.
i'm willing to give up root for samsung pay.
samsung pay is so awesome! it said loopPay works with 90% of retailers, so which 10% of retailers dont work?
dcmtnbkr said:
So it's been a while since I've used a samsung device (note 3). Normally, the first thing I do when I get a new phone is root it, but I'm concerned that samsung pay will require knox to be intact. Any thoughts? Was a way to reset knox ever discovered for newer samsung phones? Just thinking out loud.
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Plus their talking the summer before it's live and that's just the U.S., and Korea, that means NOTHING in the real world. Who's summer, early or late summer, is it a update the carries must push or just an app? I wanted to give it a go if it was "working out the box" but again it was another Samsung marketing scheme! Note 5, S7, may have it working out the box.
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I can't imagine that Knox will be required for samsung pay, but having an unrooted phone might..
Time will tell
Confirmed, samsung pay won't work with rooted phones
http://www.gsmarena.com/rooting_your_galaxy_s6_or_s6_edge_will_disable_samsung_pay-news-11984.php
how is it confirmed ?
loopPay is not out yet, no one has used it.
I beginning to question... maybe Samsung say s6 support loopPay just so they can sell more phones !
why can't I use loopPay now ? what is with this summer BS ?
netnerd said:
how is it confirmed ?
loopPay is not out yet, no one has used it.
I beginning to question... maybe Samsung say s6 support loopPay just so they can sell more phones !
why can't I use loopPay now ? what is with this summer BS ?
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It might no be 100% confirmed but common sense would say that it wouldn't work with a modified OS. Payment security is a big deal and massive concern for many company's .
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I beginning to question... maybe Samsung say s6 support loopPay just so they can sell more phones !
why can't I use loopPay now ? what is with this summer BS ?
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i dont get it either. apple devices support ApplePay at day one. Facepalm.
I'm I the only one whos wondering how this will improve my life? I mean am i missing an obvious feature of sampay? will all my cards suddenly stop working? LoL It'll be cool and all that but how will it change the way I do anything?
Just wondering why so many people won't root for something that a piece of plastic I already have in my wallet does?
I need to be educated more on this topic
Cheers
tiboric said:
I'm I the only one whos wondering how this will improve my life? I mean am i missing an obvious feature of sampay? will all my cards suddenly stop working? LoL It'll be cool and all that but how will it change the way I do anything?
Just wondering why so many people won't root for something that a piece of plastic I already have in my wallet does?
I need to be educated more on this topic
Cheers
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It wont improve your life..
Logic rarely comes into play when a cell phone feature is marketed as "must have";
The reality is, if you plan on using your cell phone as your financial conduit in your daily life, you have to be prepared to deal with the consequences of identity theft, hackers, and the nightmare of a lost or misplaced /hacked/phone /credit card machine..
I mean I have used Google wallet a couple times for proof of concept, but I am much too cautious, and concerned about using ANY electronic device in the manner that Samsung is hawking this process; don't forget, Samsung will make a commission on EVERY TRANSACTION you might do with your cell phone, so, as always, its only motivation is more profit for Samsung, nothing more, and nothing less
If you are all for that, enjoy this procedure, whenever it happens to come out.
But, the vast majority of us will continue to pay as we always have..
Its just as easy to take a credit card out of my pocket, as it is to take my cell phone out of my pocket..
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It wont improve your life..
Logic rarely comes into play when a cell phone feature is marketed as "must have";
The reality is, if you plan on using your cell phone as your financial conduit in your daily life, you have to be prepared to deal with the consequences of identity theft, hackers, and the nightmare of a lost or misplaced /hacked/phone /credit card machine..
I mean I have used Google wallet a couple times for proof of concept, but I am much too cautious, and concerned about using ANY electronic device in the manner that Samsung is hawking this process; don't forget, Samsung will make a commission on EVERY TRANSACTION you might do with your cell phone, so, as always, its only motivation is more profit for Samsung, nothing more, and nothing less
If you are all for that, enjoy this procedure, whenever it happens to come out.
But, the vast majority of us will continue to pay as we always have..
Its just as easy to take a credit card out of my pocket, as it is to take my cell phone out of my pocket..
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Good reply. Thanks. Just thought I was missing something .
Cheers
tiboric said:
I'm I the only one whos wondering how this will improve my life? I mean am i missing an obvious feature of sampay? will all my cards suddenly stop working? LoL It'll be cool and all that but how will it change the way I do anything?
Just wondering why so many people won't root for something that a piece of plastic I already have in my wallet does?
I need to be educated more on this topic
Cheers
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It won't drastically improve your life, but it's a practical feature that can be useful for some people. Maybe for people who don't like carrying wallets. You can just stick your ID in between your phone and your phone case, and you're good to go.
Also, if you forget your wallet... Something that might happen these days considering how everyone has their phone with them no matter what.
If we can use Samsung pay with next Gear Watch like Apple did with their Watch... Man, that is huge.
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Try signing my petition to allow rooted users to use Samsung Pay
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-allow-people-with-rooted-phones-to-use-samsung-pay
Signed.
Knowing that LG Canada like to block any access to the bootloader, based on previous experiences with older LG phones, what are the chances that LG might leave this phone rootable, so we can remove bloatware, and maybe even try to install more vanilla versions of Android onto this device.
Really liking the idea of the device, but been rather spoiled with 2 pixels back to back, and having all the updates asap is sure nice.
Maegnum said:
Knowing that LG Canada like to block any access to the bootloader, based on previous experiences with older LG phones, what are the chances that LG might leave this phone rootable, so we can remove bloatware, and maybe even try to install more vanilla versions of Android onto this device.
Really liking the idea of the device, but been rather spoiled with 2 pixels back to back, and having all the updates asap is sure nice.
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If you're hoping to have root access then this is not the device for you. In all likelihood no one will even be trying to gain root that knows enough about those type of exploits to even try something. You can install unwanted apps via adb though.
I have the g8x. You can unlock the bootloader if you want to. There is a toggle for OEM unlock in developer options.
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Thank you both for the info!! I was hoping there might be something to both remove bloatware, and also HOPEFULLY (!!) get a more vanilla Android experience, which it's looking like I can somewhat do!
After seeing more videos on how the software works, I'm thinking it looks like you need the LG skin to be able to fully utilize the 2nd screen, which is the whole point of the phone.
So, next step is to pop into a local store and try to get my hands on one in the flesh and see if it's what I'm looking for.
Maegnum said:
Thank you both for the info!! I was hoping there might be something to both remove bloatware, and also HOPEFULLY (!!) get a more vanilla Android experience, which it's looking like I can somewhat do!
After seeing more videos on how the software works, I'm thinking it looks like you need the LG skin to be able to fully utilize the 2nd screen, which is the whole point of the phone.
So, next step is to pop into a local store and try to get my hands on one in the flesh and see if it's what I'm looking for.
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That toggle in developer options is not what you think it is. The device is locked down tight. Root will likely never happen. Almost every device as of android 8 has that toggle but few can actually be unlocked
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That toggle in developer options is not what you think it is. The device is locked down tight. Root will likely never happen. Almost every device as of android 8 has that toggle but few can actually be unlocked
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Ohhhhh, okay, so the OEM unlock is more for allowing the device to be CARRIER unlocked as opposed to bootloader unlocked (presuming I'm reading this correctly)?
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Ohhhhh, okay, so the OEM unlock is more for allowing the device to be CARRIER unlocked as opposed to bootloader unlocked (presuming I'm reading this correctly)?
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No it's still for bootloader unlocking. But it's really just there for show. So for example a 1+ that doesn't have a locked bootloader; in order for the fastboot cmd to actually work that switch must be in the on position. But if a device has a locked bootloader, often that switch is still there but it won't actually do anything. It's somewhat confusing but that's just how it is now. For me I buy LG devices for their features and theme system. Regardless of what many say it really does have the best and most advanced theming system out of box. I have a theme partnership with samsung too and lg is light years ahead of them.
Guys I bought this device when it first came out, never did I ever think there would be zero dev interest in the device, or perhaps it would be better to state that the reason there isn't much in the way of dev interest is because Huawei has this device locked down with EMUI and it appears no one can break through. For those who don't need root then this doesn't really matter, but most of my apps do require root. My final solution was to forget the Huawei device and I bought what I believe is the most powerful device on the market today and I've already rooted it and I'm flying along. That device is the Asus Rog Phone 2, you might want to take a look at this and then decide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wwe5OW_jPE
I wish all of you the very best but I had enough of Huawei. To be fair I don't think the problem is all about Huawei, a big part of it is the clown in the White House.
I'm out of here, Krissy
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Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
Take a look here.
rubiicon59 said:
Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
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I'm not a gamer either, my philosophy however is that gaming devices are more reliable and sturdy because of the punishment they take from actual gamer's. My thought is it if holds up for a gamer then it should be no problem for me. So far this phone has proven me correct. One of the specs that blows me away is that there is a setting to set the device to 240 refresh, that's pretty darn quick. If you have any questions I'm open to answering them, that's how impressed I am with this puppy
Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
"All your apps" require root? Your phone sounds FUN! Seriously, no games? No social media? I agree, a lot of apps need root, all of which are important, if you're rooted. Ad-block is the main reason for rooting, but you can't just have ad-block, you need Magisk manager, obviously. And twrp manager, because you need twrp to flash your root. Root browser, for those times you need to fix things you screwed up by being rooted. Greenify, to act as a placebo, because now you're rooted you can't be sure things work as they should. Busy Box for... erm, well nobody really knows what that's for. So yeah that's at least 6 apps. For one thing.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
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Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
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100% completely agree with you. Have rooted all my android phones in the last 10 years and bought P30 Pro knowing couldn't root it. I use adguard private DNS to block ads and then found out can used YouTube vanced on non rooted phones by simply installing the apk. After thinking could never live without root I'm finding it particularly easy at the moment!
I've rooted every Android phone I've ever had, except my Honor 9, but don't really feel the need for the P30 Pro. Sure there are apps I can't use or install because I'm not rooted but that doesn't detract from an amazing phone. Those [required root ] apps I can probably do without anyway.
Would you run Linux as root permanently? Really?
The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
I am also disappointed but these days there is less and less reason for root. Right not, there are only three features I miss without root:
1. No Titanium Backup, so no easy way to do a full backup and make sure everything is backed up and can be restored
2. No way to limit battery charge (so it doesnt go up to 100%)
3. No DNS adblock (VPN work around is the closest I can find but that seems like it would drain battery)
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The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
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Android is NOT "marketed as open source". Show me a commercial website where it is "marketed" as such.
Android IS open source for OEMs to adapt to their devices! You bought a piece of hardware from Huawei, with a compiled Android OS. You can get the source code for Android if you want, but it comes with no hardware and no guarantee.
And your car analogy is terrible. Imagine modifying your car's software... and then your tachometer doesn't work right, or your battery drains, or your car won't start... totally unacceptable. Yet you want to do that to your phone?
I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
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I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
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The closest analogy for the car example is remapping the ECU. Manufacturers go to great lengths to encrypt ECUs and prevent mapping - much like locking a bootloader.
A lot of car mappers have to physically solder wires to certain points on the ECU circuitboard to enable them to map and edit the ECU programming. I'm fairly certain that if you went to that extreme to root your phone you could manage it, but nobody wants root *that* much.
And if you own a car that no engine mapper fancies finding a way to map? You're SOL - much like you are with your P30 Pro.
I used to root, now I dont. I find the devices now do 99% of the things I need without root. The 1%? I can live without Titanium Backup.
I'm sure the Asus device is powerful, but a lot of the people here bought the P30 Pro because they wanted a P30 Pro, not a different phone. Thanks for the review, but it's like going on a VW forum and saying 'OMG guys, sell up and go buy this BMW - IT'S AMAZING' - we're here because we wanted the VW...
@Isis111
Now you've had your ROG 2 for a while how are you getting along with it?
Since this thread I've been following the ROG 2 forum but even though root is available there's not much development happening. I was initially very interested after you started this thread but now I'm not sure the ROG 2 is as good as you said.
So I'm interested what your thoughts are now.
Also, what version do you have, and have you been impressed enough to buy any accessories?
Cheers
Did some reading and there are a few guides but not sure what might be best for this new Pixel6.
Whilst I wait for the ability to use a Google-Free ROM, is there an app or script or list of apps/services to disable etc that would work i can follow?
I'm kinda wanting to have a play with this phone but don't want it updating itself or tracking me...
I'm with you in this, impatiently waiting for Calyx/Graphene A12 and P6 support. Unfortunately, I don't think there's much we can do until then. Just restrict as many permissions as you can, don't sign in to too many things and use websites instead of apps when possible
I always stayed away from anything that is Chrome related.
I use Duckduckgo as my browser.
Brave is another...
axelmasok said:
Did some reading and there are a few guides but not sure what might be best for this new Pixel6.
Whilst I wait for the ability to use a Google-Free ROM, is there an app or script or list of apps/services to disable etc that would work i can follow?
I'm kinda wanting to have a play with this phone but don't want it updating itself or tracking me...
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As of now there r no custom roms for pixel 6 so inorder to degoogle u would have to extract the g apps from the factory firmware and then flash it that way but I've never done that myself
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Aulgreg38 said:
As of now there r no custom roms for pixel 6 so inorder to degoogle u would have to extract the g apps from the factory firmware and then flash it that way but I've never done that myself
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IT would be best to wait for a custom ROM to sideload
Yeah,uhumm..Me too want a Google phone without Google apps.Yes,uhumm also i want a stable OS without bugs and good performance, good battery life too.But not the way Google make the phone, the chip and HIS operating system.no, no,no i want to archive this any other way possible.Then U see this dude coming back with "I don't know what's happening, I have a lot of bugs and a lot of app crashing. My system is unstable. I don't want this phone.Copy his user name and wait..
Here are the apps I froze. I could probably freeze more but it's a good start i'd say. I didn't sign in to any google account. It's not perfect but that's temporary, patiently waiting for custom ROMs too
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Yep I guess we wait for the clean ROMS and such.
Thanks for sharing tomatot - I have done a bit of that already. Will check your list against mine
axelmasok said:
Yep I guess we wait for the clean ROMS and such.
Thanks for sharing tomatot - I have done a bit of that already. Will check your list against mine
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Sure, let me know if I missed any other app that seems important to freeze.
I don't know if any of you realize this, but p6/p6p have first class support in aosp. Take 15 minutes to read the instructions and build it from source yourself.
I'm running a self built aosp12r14 on my p6p right now and even typing this message from it.
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I don't know if any of you realize this, but p6/p6p have first class support in aosp. Take 15 minutes to read the instructions and build it from source yourself.
I'm running a self built aosp12r14 on my p6p right now and even typing this message from it.
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It'd be nice if you'd share your build with the community. Is everything working including fingerprint scanner?
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It'd be nice if you'd share your build with the community. Is everything working including fingerprint scanner?
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1) My build wouldn't help you. Like I said, its for p6p, not the basic-p6 in here.
2) 15 minutes of reading is all it takes to figure out how to build it yourself. The security risk of using something built by someone you don't know doesn't justify it.
3) couldn't tell you about fingerprint sensors, biometric security isn't protected by anti-self-incrimination laws, so I would never use and recommend that nobody ever use it. You should only use knowledge-based security.
I guess we are lazy? Or an underestimated minority?
I'm wondering why an AOSP build isn't available already from some kind person, or even a walk through with comments and experiences from someone already on this planet? Nothing on Youtube either.
Or is it so easy people do it quietly and assume it's common knowledge.
You know they make phones without Google installed on them, right? They are called iPhones and are pretty popular too.
sic0048 said:
You know they make phones without Google installed on them, right? They are called iPhones and are pretty popular too.
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You realize that those are 100% closed source and locked and completely and utterly useless?
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You realize that those are 100% closed source and locked and completely and utterly useless?
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Yes, which is why I use only Android phones.
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Yes, which is why I use only Android phones.
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You can enjoy Android without enjoying Google bloat/spyware you know...
I think they are just joking with the iPhone jib so no need to overreact all.
I read up on source.android.com and it all looks well documented yes. But.
400G of free HDD space, 60GB+ of source to download, overnight compiling....
I've not done it before, let alone testing on a brand new phone...plus with 2 kids and a puppy and not much sleep...
If your in your 20s and have a couple of Pixel phones and lots of free time - have a go and let us know your experiences creating a ROM. If it works on your P6, I'll try it on mine
Those many GB is not that much these days. Not like anyone is using 9600 bps dialup any more. And overnight compiles are not that bad, not like you really need to watch it. Set it to go and go to bed.
Or if you have a faster computer, just give it an hour.
But I do hear you on the kids and dog getting in the way. I have 3 kids under 10 and a dog. Oh, I'm an accountant.
It's funny that people use Android and try to De-Google their phone.
What is even more hilarious is buying a phone actually made by Google themselves and trying to De-Goolge that same device