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I just so happen to be reading the review by BGR.com of the DNA because I've never seen it before. I came across this... "There are also concerns about HTC and future software updates since it isn’t clear if HTC’s recent smartphones will ever see Android 4.2 or any other future versions of the operating system." Now this left me scratching my head, and asking myself why? Can this be true? Did I just buy a brand new dud phone? Is HTC really doing that bad?
Now, I love my new phone, but reading that leaves me with some concern. If anyone can shine some light on this topic please do so. I'm just hoping the editor was just talking out of his ass, because HTC is in a light struggle right now, and wanted to beef up his review. Well, I still have a little over a week to return the phone if I need to. I guess I better start digging for answers before its too late?
HTC doesnt really pushes as many updates as others do, atleast what i have seen till now, i could be wrong but i wont actually be worrying about that because the devs here at XDA make our phones awesome. I am currently on Captivate which recently got a GB update from Samsung but thanks to all the devs here, i am running JB on it So , just trust the devs here & keep the phone !
Why can't these phone makers keep rom development going for the entire period warrantied by them as soon as the phone is released, so if it came out say next week it would be supported for atleast a year jeez.
Although I would prefer an official update from HTC to stay current, that's not stopping me from putting a different rom on my phone!
Are phone makers lazy or just constantly switching support bases for their dev teams?
You guys shouldn't believe everything you read . This phone we hold in our hands " the j butterfly" wasn't even supposed to see American soil , and look what happened. HTC may be slow at updating but since everybody knows this its your choice to come here and wait . Release of an update is depending on not only HTC releasing it , its also dependent on Verizon giving it the final seal of approval. And my self would be happy to wait , phone just got unlock, and good things are just starting to happen . :beer:
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BGR is trolling. There was a rumor that HTC was developing their own OS or forking Android. I am sure that is where they are drawing their conclusions from, despite that being a false rumor that has been around for a year or two. HTC would be committing mobile suicide, because Google won't license their app store to non-Android devices (that I know of).
The DNA will likely see 4.2. Probably not past that though. HTC (and Samsung, Moto, etc) typically don't update phones past one Android version upgrade.
PS - the Butterfly is an off-shoot of the DNA, not the other way around. I have that directly from HTC. The DNA was developed at VZWs direction, and since the Butterfly would not compete, permission was given for it's release.
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PS - the Butterfly is an off-shoot of the DNA, not the other way around. I have that directly from HTC. The DNA was developed at VZWs direction, and since the Butterfly would not compete, permission was given for it's release.
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Proof?
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Proof?
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Asking dsb for proof is like asking the church to supply you with proof of god or Jesus for that matter ... Just believe him , he knows what he's talking about ... Besides what would he gain by not being honest? This isn't a pissing match in the slightest
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Asking dsb for proof is like asking the church to supply you with proof of god or Jesus for that matter ... Just believe him , he knows what he's talking about ... Besides what would he gain by not being honest? This isn't a pissing match in the slightest
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I know where dsb started, thanks. I still would like proof. The J Butterfly was out well before the DNA, so it seems weird that the DNA would be the parent device.
I don't just believe anyone, regardless of their status.
Just like his advice to switch to LTE/CDMA to get SVDO working, which does not work.
I apologize for coming off as rude, but asking for proof should not be met with blind fanboyism.
The DNA is a Verizon variant of the phone that was previously released in Japan as the J Butterfly. I covered both devices for Rootzwiki News, and every other credible source I read from said that the J Butterfly was the first HTC device with the Snapdragon S4 Pro chipset and the 5-inch 1080p display. The J Butterfly, the Droid DNA, and the DLX are all variants of the same phone, but the DNA was definitely not the first one of the group.
PS - the Butterfly is an off-shoot of the DNA, not the other way around. I have that directly from HTC. The DNA was developed at VZWs direction, and since the Butterfly would not compete, permission was given for it's release.
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So is it possible that an International DLX won't be coming? Since it's Unlocked GSM and would work on ATT and Tmo.
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The DNA is a Verizon variant of the phone that was previously released in Japan as the J Butterfly. I covered both devices for Rootzwiki News, and every other credible source I read from said that the J Butterfly was the first HTC device with the Snapdragon S4 Pro chipset and the 5-inch 1080p display. The J Butterfly, the Droid DNA, and the DLX are all variants of the same phone, but the DNA was definitely not the first one of the group.
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While time-frame-wise that is entirely true, however when the phones were thought of/created as opposed to released are two different things. Not saying you're wrong, just that the DNA could have been created by HTC first, then the J. VZW could have easily pushed the release past the J.
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So is it possible that an International DLX won't be coming? Since it's Unlocked GSM and would work on ATT and Tmo.
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There will be a DLX - there's no way T-Mobile and AT&T are going to pass on a 1080p HTC phone with a 1080p display and a quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro chipset. AT&T might try to make its own locked-down variant, but the other carriers are not going tollet Verizon have the only U.S. version of this monster - especially since there has been no word that I've seen of any exclusivity clause for Verizon.
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While time-frame-wise that is entirely true, however when the phones were thought of/created as opposed to released are two different things. Not saying you're wrong, just that the DNA could have been created by HTC first, then the J. VZW could have easily pushed the release past the J.
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Hence I asked for proof Otherwise it is an unsubstantiated rumor.
I don't think the j butterfly is out yet in Japan?? They just had a press release, pending December launch.
I could be wrong but try and find the butterfly for sale??
Also adynalyne, god I missed your work from the thunderbolt days... Been itching for some BAMFness
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I don't think the j butterfly is out yet in Japan?? They just had a press release, pending December launch.
I could be wrong but try and find the butterfly for sale??
Also adynalyne, god I missed your work from the thunderbolt days... Been itching for some BAMFness
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I'm still evaluating.
You are right though. I don't know if it was released or not. I can't find confirmation either way.
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I know where dsb started, thanks. I still would like proof. The J Butterfly was out well before the DNA, so it seems weird that the DNA would be the parent device.
I don't just believe anyone, regardless of their status.
Just like his advice to switch to LTE/CDMA to get SVDO working, which does not work.
I apologize for coming off as rude, but asking for proof should not be met with blind fanboyism.
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No , not a fan boy here ... Was just messing with ya , calm down Skippy
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I just so happen to be reading the review by BGR.com of the DNA because I've never seen it before. I came across this... "There are also concerns about HTC and future software updates since it isn’t clear if HTC’s recent smartphones will ever see Android 4.2 or any other future versions of the operating system." Now this left me scratching my head, and asking myself why? Can this be true? Did I just buy a brand new dud phone? Is HTC really doing that bad?
Now, I love my new phone, but reading that leaves me with some concern. If anyone can shine some light on this topic please do so. I'm just hoping the editor was just talking out of his ass, because HTC is in a light struggle right now, and wanted to beef up his review. Well, I still have a little over a week to return the phone if I need to. I guess I better start digging for answers before its too late?
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To worry about HTC's status as a going-concern is pretty much like wondering if you will buy a new and more awesome phone after 2-year contract. I think HTC will be around. Look at RIM, even in such situation, they are still fighting for a comeback. HTC is not RIM yet.
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To worry about HTC's status as a going-concern is pretty much like wondering if you will buy a new and more awesome phone after 2-year contract. I think HTC will be around. Look at RIM, even in such situation, they are still fighting for a comeback. HTC is not RIM yet.
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Nor do I think HTC will become a RIM anytime soon. I just hate the fact that HTC pretty much puts out a phone, and say... Ok, we're done with this one, on to the next. Support lacks once the phone is released.
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Nor do I think HTC will become a RIM anytime soon. I just hate the fact that HTC pretty much puts out a phone, and say... Ok, we're done with this one, on to the next. Support lacks once the phone is released.
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The only company not doing this has been Google.
as many of you know, i've been in contact with customer support since launch day of the rezound, reporting any bugs we had, the pink light issue and mainly the bad audio during video recording. iv'e spoken to them over the phone countless times to tell them whats up, and voiced all of our concerns.
a year later, of course there's a few issues with teh DNA, so i dug back up an old ticket and was able to chat with support again, and i was able to get the same guy i spoke with last year. we've been messaging back and forth almost daily about issues and i've got a thread ongoing here where people submit any bugs or suggestions, and i know for a fact HTC is looking at them.
the other day, he asked me for my address along with inviting me to join HTC Elevate. today i got this in the mail. on top of it, i'm sure you all remember how i recently was able to get an HTC rep to my store for the first time since we've opened just by contacting them..the day after i wrote to them, a rep was at my store to show me all the new HTC stuff, and provided free display models and brochures...and a day after that, HTC sent a huge box of stuff to give customers (stands, bracelets, sim card openers, ice scrapers, little things)
so yeah. this is why i deal with HTC. i know they'll listen to me, and i know how much they appreciate our consumer feedback. i've never had a company treat me so well as a customer and with such a level of personal contact.
Very cool :good:
Very nice.
Maybe HTC could teach Asus a thing or two...
Do they know about the sim card issue?
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Do they know about the sim card issue?
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i believe so. if it's in my thread, they check it out. i'm going to write back today to thank them for it, so i'll mention it. again, have any of you guys tried antoher sim? sim's do go bad sometimes; i see it often.
Cool This is my first HTC and I've been happy so far. Before this I had a Motorola Droid X, which was my first smartphone.
i like the htc andy :good:
Hey Jay,
Can you ask them to slip you an S-off hboot?
Ok but seriously...
If you would, Plz ask if a radio update is in the works. I love this phone, but my Rezound got MUCH better reception.
Thanks,
The Beeb
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Hey Jay,
Can you ask them to slip you an S-off hboot?
Ok but seriously...
If you would, Plz ask if a radio update is in the works. I love this phone, but my Rezound got MUCH better reception.
Thanks,
The Beeb
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def, we'll see whats going on. someone hinted at an OTA being tested at HTC right now, so who knows.
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as many of you know, i've been in contact with customer support since launch day of the rezound, reporting any bugs we had, the pink light issue and mainly the bad audio during video recording. iv'e spoken to them over the phone countless times to tell them whats up, and voiced all of our concerns.
a year later, of course there's a few issues with teh DNA, so i dug back up an old ticket and was able to chat with support again, and i was able to get the same guy i spoke with last year. we've been messaging back and forth almost daily about issues and i've got a thread ongoing here where people submit any bugs or suggestions, and i know for a fact HTC is looking at them.
the other day, he asked me for my address along with inviting me to join HTC Elevate. today i got this in the mail. on top of it, i'm sure you all remember how i recently was able to get an HTC rep to my store for the first time since we've opened just by contacting them..the day after i wrote to them, a rep was at my store to show me all the new HTC stuff, and provided free display models and brochures...and a day after that, HTC sent a huge box of stuff to give customers (stands, bracelets, sim card openers, ice scrapers, little things)
so yeah. this is why i deal with HTC. i know they'll listen to me, and i know how much they appreciate our consumer feedback. i've never had a company treat me so well as a customer and with such a level of personal contact.
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I thought you did memes for a living?
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HTC is a great company!
fernando sor said:
I thought you did memes for a living?
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yeah man, working for verizon is only a hobby.
ALSO, awesome to see you on the DNA dude!
I like htc too, but as designers they have a few things to work on like there sense ui havent really evolve at all since it was initial launch, and they did not learn from last experience meaning the battery with the thunderbolt and now the DNA
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I like htc too, but as designers they have a few things to work on like there sense ui havent really evolve at all since it was initial launch, and they did not learn from last experience meaning the battery with the thunderbolt and now the DNA
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dude, if you're having as bad battery on a DNA as you did a Thunderbolt, go get a replacement. this battery KILLS the thunderbolt. go read the battery thread. we're getting great life out of it.
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I like htc too, but as designers they have a few things to work on like there sense ui havent really evolve at all since it was initial launch, and they did not learn from last experience meaning the battery with the thunderbolt and now the DNA
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Uh, battery life is great. 4-5 hours screen on time is normal and you can push it to 6 no problem.
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That's totally awesome dude!
Posted from my Verizon Employee Edition DROID DNA #01749.
I want that cup, Google and eBay both come up empty....
Yeah, I've had to "help manage" my wife and daughter's Samsung phones and I am so glad I've stuck with HTC from my beginning with the OG Incredible to the Inc2, to the Rez and now the DNA. People just don't know how good this stuff is.
I've registered for HTC Elevate, but so far no go. You're lucky there, Jay!
Anyway, HTC still makes the best stuff and if they could convince VZW to unlock the bootloaders and give us bleeding edge folks a little s-off love, we'd have just about everything. Glad you've got their ear. Enjoy!
Htc is my top choice for nice design and performance,never had Samsung phone,Motorola is second and lg doesn't appear to me.lg ally was first android.
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Bigandrewgold said:
Uh, battery life is great. 4-5 hours screen on time is normal and you can push it to 6 no problem.
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Can you point to the battery threads you are talking about? I'm getting max 4 hours screen on time, and usually 3.5.
only way to get more would be to turn off data, location, and most other stuff. Kernel is killing the battery on my first unit, and a replacement unit is doing the same.
Thanks.
is anyone else going to get this?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...oming-to-the-play-store-on-june-26th-for-600/
Linch89 said:
is anyone else going to get this?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...oming-to-the-play-store-on-june-26th-for-600/
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this is my plan. going to drop vzw get tmobile sell the phone i get and help pay for this.
Linch89 said:
is anyone else going to get this?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...oming-to-the-play-store-on-june-26th-for-600/
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wont be on verizon, so no
this excites me more anyway: http://www.droid-life.com/2013/05/3...080p-display-snapdragon-800-and-key-lime-pie/
idk man im ready to drop Verizon like a bad habit i'd like to give t mo a shot
plus nexus htc? I never had the nexus one that came out before my android journey started but from what I hear it was the sh!t
read the article and sounds legit, but a typically releases at the end of the year like that don't fair too well imo. don't you have the dna? didn't htc release a better version of the dna a few months after it's release?
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idk man im ready to drop Verizon like a bad habit i'd like to give t mo a shot
plus nexus htc? I never had the nexus one that came out before my android journey started but from what I hear it was the sh!t
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i hear ya...verizon is the only carrier that is actually usable at my job site so i dont see that changing anytime soon (same w/ wifes job)
a google supported htc is great in that its essentially getting aosp support for the htc one...no reason to buy the google edition though at 600 bucks when any gsm htc one will benefit the same from it (unless you want to support htc's endeavor into this)
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i hear ya...verizon is the only carrier that is actually usable at my job site so i dont see that changing anytime soon (same w/ wifes job)
a google supported htc is great in that its essentially getting aosp support for the htc one...no reason to buy the google edition though at 600 bucks when any gsm htc one will benefit the same from it (unless you want to support htc's endeavor into this)
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if I could I would ditch Verizon..their recent practices just keep pissing me off. I just can't because currently its cheaper than any other decent carrier, thanks to my jobs discounts, and its the only truly reliable service out here. T-Mobile is a distant second... Sprint and At&t just suck, signal-wise, out here.
I agree though with an official aosp release coming for the one it will be great for the dev community and anyone who wants a more recent Google endorsed device... too bad its not on Verizon....
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good news everyone....
link
I think i'll wait till holiday season for the phone nits was talking about
I intend on getting this one from vzw
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getting an Xperia TX. Time to change to a Sony.
Hi, I currently own HTC One X..would like to upgrade to 1080p screens..
was thinking of getting Droid DNA as it is cheap and affordable.. Is it worth buying now?
I know the phone is awesome...But I am worried about the development.
I would atleast use the phone for another year. Development is one of the main criteria for me.
Thank you
I was in the same boat as you mulling over the DNA or the ONE X+. After noticing the resale value was less for the better offering (DNA) I got it. Development is above average with 3 major builds having multiple offerings (Sense 4+, Sense 5 & AOSP/CM) Everything pretty much works in all roms except BT headset audio for cars in AOSP which I'm bummed about because I recently discovered my inner AOSP and would rather be running it than Sense but its a dealbreaker for me as I'm an audio enthusiast. If you do decide to upgrade another obvious choice is the ONE but it will be a bit pricier outright as it is still a new phone. The screen on it is smaller but it has boomsound speakers. The DNA has curved glass like the OX. it has a soft touch back which I prefer over the metal of the ONE.
thanks for replying..but so many ppl are selling droid dna on swappa..which got me worried..why many ppl leaving the device? at this pace it is even difficult to have android 4.3 running on dna
arpith.fbi said:
thanks for replying..but so many ppl are selling droid dna on swappa..which got me worried..why many ppl leaving the device? at this pace it is even difficult to have android 4.3 running on dna
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Possibly because the One is being released by Verizon within the next few months.
arpith.fbi said:
thanks for replying..but so many ppl are selling droid dna on swappa..which got me worried..why many ppl leaving the device? at this pace it is even difficult to have android 4.3 running on dna
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The DNA will lose some developers to the One, but its safe to say it will keep a handful; at least through their 2 year contract. The development right now is pretty strong and I'm confident we will have a 4.3 and 5.0 port.
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People are selling because they are upgrading/planning on upgrading. The one is coming, a possible dna 2, and this Droid ultra that's being talked about.
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Hmmm..so what do you say guys..should I go for droid dna or spend hell lot of money and buy HTC one? even xperia Z is also in my mind..I hate samsung phones..
If u have patience you should wait for the butterfly s or for all the new phones that will be comming out with the snapdragon 800
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If u have patience you should wait for the butterfly s or for all the new phones that will be comming out with the snapdragon 800
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I sold my phone today only..right now using Nokia old model..thats why running out of patience
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I sold my phone today only..right now using Nokia old model..thats why running out of patience
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Perosnally I think you're the only one who can make the decision you're looking for on some of the questions you've asked. The DNA is a phenomenal phone and it's still holding it's own with current phones. However, when the new snapdragon phones get released it will be much slower comparitively. Developement is fine and we have been getting many many ports from the HTC One so as long as that stays true then we should have no trouble getting updated versions of android. Also keep in mind that HTC has said that our phone will be getting updated to 4.2 and you can assume it will get one more update to 4.3. With the Developer Version of the One being released we can also speculate that we will benefit from that as well.
I would personally hold out unless you got a steal on a DNA. I was going to hold out but we took advantage of the free DNA's that verizon was giving out. Very happy with my decision but at this point you have the One coming to Verizon as well as the Butterfly S which may be the DNA 2.
If its a choice between phones available now I would go with the DNA over the ONE just because its kinda the same phone minus the boomsound, and I don't mean that spec for spec but generally speaking. If you wait there will always be better options but you have release dates to consider as well as contracts. DNA can be used on prepaid GSM so that's a plus for no contract people. Also you can always sell your current phone for a new phone that you aim to buy used. After selling my EVO LTE I only paid $150 for the DNA so its a smart way to always get the phone you desire for cheaper. I've never owned multiple superphones but maybe ill get an S4 unlocked when the price comes down a bit.
The only thing I would buy the one for is zoe. I'm no professional photographer so the 8 megapixelcamera the DNA has is fine for me. Um other than and that it comes with stock sense5 the DNA and the one are similar. Honestly I would wait for the phone that's supposedly the one and the DNA combined, if anything
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Hi, I currently own HTC One X..would like to upgrade to 1080p screens..
was thinking of getting Droid DNA as it is cheap and affordable.. Is it worth buying now?
I know the phone is awesome...But I am worried about the development.
I would atleast use the phone for another year. Development is one of the main criteria for me.
Thank you
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Get DNA. U wont regret it. Advise from a fellow indian
HTC ONE is priced highly and it has build issues.
As far as rom dev is concerned, DNA is best positioned among all htc phones if devs stay with it.
We have sense 4+ roms like viper, sense5 port, and whole host of aosp roms. Should be getting sense5 officially atleast as well.
Hell i have compiled 3 roms namely jellybeer, slimrom, baked
We have all major roms also. Chk orig. android section.
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Hey guys, I still got the good ol' HD2 or should I say I got two working and one touchscreen defective HD2?
Is the Droid DNA a successor of the HD2?
I'm lovin' this old companion but I think it's time to move on.
What about the battery, is it detachable?
edit: Yeah, I see, it's not removable. What does this mean? How complex is it to remove the battery?
JackDCalloway said:
Hey guys, I still got the good ol' HD2 or should I say I got two working and one touchscreen defective HD2?
Is the Droid DNA a successor of the HD2?
I'm lovin' this old companion but I think it's time to move on.
What about the battery, is it detachable?
edit: Yeah, I see, it's not removable. What does this mean? How complex is it to remove the battery?
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You'd have to open the phone up, not super easy. Buy why would you want to get at the battery.
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So the phone is that good, that there's ne reason to reboot it hard via removing the battery? Great.
Ummm one question, maybe because of my english comprehension: BT Headset Audio isn't working with CM10.1 JB4.2.2 So what's that meaning? I won't be able to use my BT Headset for calls? Any Chances for a fix or finding the cause of this?
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So the phone is that good, that there's ne reason to reboot it hard via removing the battery? Great.
Ummm one question, maybe because of my english comprehension: BT Headset Audio isn't working with CM10.1 JB4.2.2 So what's that meaning? I won't be able to use my BT Headset for calls? Any Chances for a fix or finding the cause of this?
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If you need to hard reboot you hold the power button for 10 seconds, just like every other device with a non removable battery.
And yes, your headset won't work fie now. There's a good chance it will be fixed eventually.
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Ok, thank you for sharing informations. Good to know, looks like I'm gonna get myself a DNA Droid.
Looks like a HD2 successor for me.
JackDCalloway said:
Ok, thank you for sharing informations. Good to know, looks like I'm gonna get myself a DNA Droid.
Looks like a HD2 successor for me.
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Nothing like the HD2 really... That would be the Evo or Thunderbolt really... Plus didn't the HD2 run winmo?
That's why I'll try to fix my fellow HD2, but it's old, even the Thunderbolt and Evo are kinda old. I want to buy a new device, use it till it's exhausted like the HD2 (Old digitizer died, replaced it, now it's dead again, or the buttons are bad).
The HD2, WinMo6.5 from stock. The question is: Is there an OS the HD2 couldn't handle? But this discussion belongs somewhere else.
HTC confirms One X+ not getting anymore updates
Not for nothing but HTC always has excuses for why they no longer support older devices.
Excuses are like a--holes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
As much as I like the HTC Sense, their lack of supporting old hardware is becoming a major gripe.
If I wanted lack of support for older devices and being forced to spend money on upgrading to a new device, I would switch to Apple.
This is complete BS!
I absolutely agree. My last 5 devices have been HTC but my next one won't be.
XDA-developers has provided HTC with a lot of support over the years by devs willing to spend their own time developing roms, kernels, apps etc that have extended the life of HTC devices and made them better to use. I have stuck with HTC pretty much because the people on this forum would help make my device better. To mind HTC owes this forum a lot. How about we organise a collective response to HTC from One X+ users?
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I absolutely agree. My last 5 devices have been HTC but my next one won't be.
XDA-developers has provided HTC with a lot of support over the years by devs willing to spend their own time developing roms, kernels, apps etc that have extended the life of HTC devices and made them better to use. I have stuck with HTC pretty much because the people on this forum would help make my device better. To mind HTC owes this forum a lot. How about we organise a collective response to HTC from One X+ users?
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Ever heard the term fall upon deaf ears. That is exactly what would come out of it.
There was a collective response when they stopped supporting Desire HD.
Did HTC care? Nope. They just want you, the consumer, to spend more money and buy another HTC to help the ailing company.
HTC Sense has some really great features but it is not worth having to spend money every year and a half to buy a new phone in order to receive the latest OS.
HTC blames nVidia for the lack of support. Interesting how the Nexus 7 with nVidia already has fully support for KitKat.
HTC, if you lie to us at least have some truth to your lie!
@saitch76 I am on the same boat as you. My last 3 devices have been HTC and always the same story. After about a year and a half of the phone coming out, HTC always came up with an excuse as to why the device will no longer receive further updates.
Galaxy S5 here I come?
I suspect HTC is hoping users will react with hopelessness as you have described and think there is no point complaining. HTC is in a very different position now compared with the Desire HD days and there is a real chance that they won't exist in a few years. Apple is having to learn that it is unrealistic to expect users to fork out for a new top of the range device every other year. Hence the iPhone 5C. It's an attempt to stop it's customer base defecting to Android (Samsung) devices by giving them them a cheaper route to the latest OS. HTC don't have the monopoly on Android that Apple has on iOS and Samsung has a device for every budget. HTC's only hope is to hold onto their existing customers, particularly the loyal HTC enthusiasts. Nokia and BlackBerry are good examples of what happens when customers are neglected and I hope HTC has taken note. I would much rather be proactive and communicate how unhappy I am, and we are, (there is strength in numbers) than be passive and complain that HTC didn't come knocking on my door to ask what I want. IMO it's not really about the One X+ and KitKat, it's about informing HTC about their longer term strategy for device support. I will only buy another HTC device in the condition that HTC commits to supporting it for longer than 18months. I want HTC to be crystal clear on that. if they can't commit to that then I won't buy another HTC device. If 100 or 500 or 2000 One X+ users communicate that to them then they would be more than foolish not to take notice.
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I am unable to say that I disagree with you.
HTC most likely does expect people to keep mum about it.
When I first heard that the support was ending for the HTC Incredible I said, "Eh, it was a weak phone and phones are on the rise and getting stronger."
I then went to unlocked phones because I was working abroad. The Desire HD was their flagship and an incredibly popular phone. The forums were tagged with roms. Every week a new rom was born. Shortly after HTC released the Sensation, they stated that Desire HD will no longer receive updates.
Lucky me for not jumping to Sensation because as soon as the One X was released, Sensation lost support. That was followed by the One X+.
HTC put all their efforts on updating the One X+ and said the One X will get updates eventually. (I could keep going but you get the point.)
The HTC One is an amazing phone but the One X+ is still holding strong and could manage anything you throw at it.
I agree with everything you said. HTC once held the market a long time ago, as did Nokia and BlackBerry. The problems with Nokia and Blackberry is that they decided to stick to their own OS or partner up with an OS no one uses.
Apple still has their fanbase. People who like iPhones will continue to buy them every year or two, and Apple is very much aware of that.
HTC on the other hand, does not have that much of a fan base anymore. HTC must think they are the only game in town. Unfortunately for them, they are not. With the likes of Samsung surpassing them a long time ago, HTC has lost a huge market share and their stocks are their to prove it. Quarter after quarter their financial records are showing a loss in the billions.
You are right it is not about the One X+ and KitKat, it is about their lack of support. Every 18 months it does very much feel like HTC is pushing you to buy a new phone. My wife's Samsung S3 is now running Android 4.3 with 4.4 on the verge. That phone came out before the One X+ and Samsung is supporting it like a champion. Samsung knows treat your customers right and they will be back. Apparently, HTC expects their customers to keep coming back because their phones look nice. Samsung is currently still using plastic but I have a feeling that they will realize it is time to move to unibody metal. Samsung stole a lot of iPhone fans and I very much see them stealing HTC fans as well.
If you really think that making a stink about it by getting the community together to complain to HTC, I am with you.
I am done with their lack of support and want them to change. Competition makes the companies try their hardest. If HTC seizes to exist, Samsung will rule the market.
Let's start getting the community together and let's complain to HTC.
This ain't over!
What is the best route to do this? I suggested posts on their Twitter and Facebook pages, but they'll just hide them, or give the standard response.
@TeK9samurai I think you are absolutely correct. I'm thinking about setting up a Survey Monkey survey for One X+ users to get some data to send HTC. Questions could include how long users have had their One X+, how many HTC devices they have owned, how many OS updates they have received, how important the latest OS is for users, how long users think a device should be supported for, how likely users are to buy another HTC device, how users feel about the decision not to provide an update to KitKat, how users feel in general regarding HTC's OS update track record, how many users install custom roms in order to update the OS, how likely would users be to buy an HTC device if OS updates via custom roms were not available.
Any thoughts?
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saitch76 said:
@TeK9samurai I think you are absolutely correct. I'm thinking about setting up a Survey Monkey survey for One X+ users to get some data to send HTC. Questions could include how long users have had their One X+, how many HTC devices they have owned, how many OS updates they have received, how important the latest OS is for users, how long users think a device should be supported for, how likely users are to buy another HTC device, how users feel about the decision not to provide an update to KitKat, how users feel in general regarding HTC's OS update track record, how many users install custom roms in order to update the OS, how likely would users be to buy an HTC device if OS updates via custom roms were not available.
Any thoughts?
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All sounds great, I think the questions about custom roms should be left out.
If you open the door to questions like that, you will get answers that don't help your cause.
geojoking said:
What is the best route to do this? I suggested posts on their Twitter and Facebook pages, but they'll just hide them, or give the standard response.
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Unfortunately, most likely what would happen.
Another course of action needs to be taken.
saitch76 said:
@TeK9samurai I think you are absolutely correct. I'm thinking about setting up a Survey Monkey survey for One X+ users to get some data to send HTC. Questions could include how long users have had their One X+, how many HTC devices they have owned, how many OS updates they have received, how important the latest OS is for users, how long users think a device should be supported for, how likely users are to buy another HTC device, how users feel about the decision not to provide an update to KitKat, how users feel in general regarding HTC's OS update track record, how many users install custom roms in order to update the OS, how likely would users be to buy an HTC device if OS updates via custom roms were not available.
Any thoughts?
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It will be a huge waste of time
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Lloir said:
It will be a huge waste of time
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And your suggesting what as an alternative?
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And your suggesting what as an alternative?
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There is nothing you can do.
No matter how many petitions you make or spamming their Facebook/email/inbox won't make a shed of difference.
I suggest you just live with it, like the rest of us have to and all the devices that had to prior to the X/X+
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Lloir said:
There is nothing you can do.
No matter how many petitions you make or spamming their Facebook/email/inbox won't make a shed of difference.
I suggest you just live with it, like the rest of us have to and all the devices that had to prior to the X/X+
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Just living with it is exactly what HTC will hope for. It's not in my nature not to do that. Passivity achieves nothing.
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I'll never buy a htc phone again.... :/
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Just living with it is exactly what HTC will hope for. It's not in my nature not to do that. Passivity achieves nothing.
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I agree. Just acceping and moving on does nothing. We've done in the past with numerous HTC devices, and we always thought HTC understood and wanted to change.
It's like they keep updating the One now, but ofter the One successor comes along, the One will be forgotten.
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I agree. Just acceping and moving on does nothing. We've done in the past with numerous HTC devices, and we always thought HTC understood and wanted to change.
It's like they keep updating the One now, but ofter the One successor comes along, the One will be forgotten.
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ALL u can do is get a different phone next. they will not change this decision. i had inspire 4g/ desire hd, and had the same problem but i didnt stop buying their phones, i just like sense and their harware. that doesnt mean they are doing a good job, at the end of the day phone does same things for me as any current flagship. i will make sure i never get a tegra device no more because u cant get all the goodies on this devices that xda can offer. my 2 cents.
Guys , in may 2014 the HTC one community will be in our same situation today ,14 month old device ,let see if they will stop there too, from my experience HTC thinks xda customers don't represent 1% of their customers ,so it's easy for HTC tho move on and forget about us , even HTC elevate people get nowhere
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I'll never buy a htc phone again.... :/
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Neither will I. I got screwed in the ass figuratively with Motorola's Photon 4G but this is worse. A 14 month old phone IS NOT OLD. I bought my One X+ the day AT&T released it in November 2012, in fact the sales guy at the store had to look for it in back as it just arrived in stock.
I realize the phone has been out internationally since they dropped the ball with LTE support but I feel ripped off and misled. BTW it was slow as molasses opening apps with 4.1, the custom ROM based on 4.2 I installed (after rooting it which is a must) is faster but not by much.
But you see, that's the point. Who in their right mind thinks 14 months is enough for a phone. I wish I had the money to spend so I could get a new phone every year. This is complete bs that a company decides you should get a new phone because they are no longer supporting it.
By the way Tegra chips have nothing to do with it. If they did, why does the Nexus 7 have 4.4?
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Whenever anyone of us say that about the Nexus 7, someone says that the Nexus uses a different version of the Tegra 3, and that ours is unsupported, not that one.
Nexus 7: Tegra 3 T30L (Q1 2012)
One X: Tegra 3 AP33 (Q4 2011)
One X+: Tegra 3 T33 or AP37 (Q2 2012)