Oneplus one or Xperia z2? - Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just seen this phone and I really can't believe the specs of the phone for the price of £260 (16Gb) £290 (64gb).
It's not waterproof or dustproof but to be honest I don't really care cos none of my phone was neither.
http://m.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/oneplus-one-1244307/review
We are talking about £300 cheaper phone with same specs. What do you think guys?
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It has no stereo speakers and it is 2 mms wider than the Z2. Also, the battery is compared to the Z2's battery quite small, especially if u regard the larger screen and the faster cpu (2,5Ghz vs 2,3Ghz).

PiskopatYazar said:
I just seen this phone and I really can't believe the specs of the phone for the price of £260 (16Gb) £290 (64gb).
It's not waterproof or dustproof but to be honest I don't really care cos none of my phone was neither.
http://m.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/oneplus-one-1244307/review
We are talking about £300 cheaper phone with same specs. What do you think guys?
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Atm, it is only available through competitions and invite only.

"No microSD slot"
No thanks then!

fatguy666 said:
"No microSD slot"
No thanks then!
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64GB is only £40 extra. We are talking about £200 extra if you wanna buy apple phone with 64gb.
On review the guy mentioned that as a con as well if you are not using so much space like me it's not a problem.
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mujj said:
Atm, it is only available through competitions and invite only.
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What do you mean? Everybody can purchase the phone.
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PiskopatYazar said:
What do you mean? Everybody can purchase the phone.
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On the 25th only available with invite only + competitions then Available to everyone in August.
& the Oneplus is longer than the Note 3..
It's actually £269 for the 64GB version & £229 for the 16GB version

Publicglutton said:
On the 25th only available with invite only + competitions then Available to everyone in August.
& the Oneplus is longer than the Note 3..
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Note 3 is 5.7 inch this one is 5.5 it's not longer.
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PiskopatYazar said:
Note 3 is 5.7 inch this one is 5.5 it's not longer.
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YES it is here:-
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/On...id8603/size/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3/phones/7984

The One Plus One looks a bit tacky to me....I don't really like how the camera isn't flush with the body. And I prefer unibody.
Of course that price is awesome, but the size is ludicrous. Even the z2 is borderline size wise..
Unless Cupertino pulls something out of the bag this year (quite possible), xperia z2 is easily phone of the year for me.

paddylaz said:
The One Plus One looks a bit tacky to me....I don't really like how the camera isn't flush with the body. And I prefer unibody.
Of course that price is awesome, but the size is ludicrous. Even the z2 is borderline size wise..
Unless Cupertino pulls something out of the bag this year (quite possible), xperia z2 is easily phone of the year for me.
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I believe this is good for people with limited budget.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...2,Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3/phones/8603,8323,7984
Only cons aganist z2 is, not water or dust proof, wee bit smaller battery, no micro sim card slot and also glass body.
3100 mhz battery vs 3200 mhz not a big deal at all. that battery will last you whole day if you are not playing with your phone all the time.
external micro sim problem can be solved by paying £40 extra and get the 64gb version.
glass body for me is a con if you drop your phone it shatters and you cant use it.
if the z2 price down to £400 in august I can go for it otherwise will think about it

paddylaz said:
The One Plus One looks a bit tacky to me....I don't really like how the camera isn't flush with the body. And I prefer unibody.
Of course that price is awesome, but the size is ludicrous. Even the z2 is borderline size wise..
Unless Cupertino pulls something out of the bag this year (quite possible), xperia z2 is easily phone of the year for me.
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No hope for the LG G3?

Specs are one thing, but how it all performs is still an unknown. Could be super amazing or just good value.

I have used Cyanmod in my Samsung Galaxy note 2 it is supercool ROM and if you have those specs with that ROM it can fly you up to the sky. I was checking the price actually it doesnt even cost £249 or £299 it cost only £178 for 16gb £209 for the 64GB this is a bargain.
I will definitely give it a go once it is released.
Founder of the company is the ex vice president of Oppo. Oppo find 7a has got similar features but on system chip, memory and ram oneplus one beats it. and Oppo find 7a cost 400 euro which is £350.
This phone might sweep the market off.

If you check the link below you will see the OFFICIAL pricing which is an image taken from the Oneplus one invitation conference at 7:30 am this morning in beijing.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-One-release-date-and-price-unveiled_id55452
Still great prices though

OnePlus is doing a good thing by putting price pressure on the larger OEMs.
But looking at the differences with the Z2:
1. No IPxx certification.
2. Lesser camera
3. No MicroSD
4. Marginally smaller battery
5. Not sure how Google Play (and services like Chromecast) will work on their ROM
6. Not sure about device reliability and support from OnePlus
I would still rather pay a bit more for the Z2. But this is my own preference.

I think the 1+1 might have an IP cert because in their promo video it shows a bunch of phones being sprayed with water. This probably means the cert isn't as good as the Z2's IPX8 and I haven't seen what their official cert is (if indeed it exists at all), but they seem to be promoting it as at least water resistant.
Personally, the Z2 is about as large as I can handle, and the 1+1 is even larger and made by an unknown company, so I am sticking with the Z2.

JMonkeYJ said:
I think the 1+1 might have an IP cert because in their promo video it shows a bunch of phones being sprayed with water. This probably means the cert isn't as good as the Z2's IPX8 and I haven't seen what their official cert is (if indeed it exists at all), but they seem to be promoting it as at least water resistant.
Personally, the Z2 is about as large as I can handle, and the 1+1 is even larger and made by an unknown company, so I am sticking with the Z2.
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The video you're referring to is quite misleading without any context. The clip may just be showing an oleophobic coating deposition process.

Publicglutton said:
If you check the link below you will see the OFFICIAL pricing which is an image taken from the Oneplus one invitation conference at 7:30 am this morning in beijing.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-One-release-date-and-price-unveiled_id55452
Still great prices though
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I would order from america then it is way a lot cheaper if you buy from there.

Lolento said:
The video you're referring to is quite misleading without any context. The clip may just be showing an oleophobic coating deposition process.
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yeah Im not too sure about water resistant or proof future as well. Everything will be more clear after the conference today.

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Galaxy Note 3 , will you buy it?

I'm patiently waiting for the c6806 but now that the galaxy note 3 is being announced and will be out early October , i might just jump ship and buy the note .Waiting for the LTE version is just painfully slow!
Build quality & the display is too small.
In the end the hardware pro's (ram, slightly higher clocking, cam) of the SGN3 are not compensating this for my requirements, as the performance of the XZU is still astonishing and i'm using my phone only for snapshots.
But your case is exactly showing the becalming situation Samsung has - people love to buy it anyway.
i almost bought the c6802 and live with the 3g connection but im pretty sure i'll be banging my head if the LTE version comes out,blaming myself that i should have waited .
LTE to me is the now technology and 3G is just not acceptable in my vocabulary .
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Build quality & the display is too small.
In the end the hardware pro's (ram, slightly higher clocking, cam) of the SGN3 are not compensating this for my requirements, as the performance of the XZU is still astonishing and i'm using my phone only for snapshots.
But your case is exactly showing the becalming situation Samsung has - people love to buy it anyway.
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100% agree with you in every aspects. I even if was waiting for the LTE version would never go for a Note 3. Those phone only can be compared on the performances. Size and build quality are really different.
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Absolutely not.
I've seen the conferences yesterday, and both Sony and Samsung haven't entertained me.
I mean, Sony has great products but tends to lay them out without any heart at all.
On the other end, Samsung has no innovation at all, but from their point of view it seems they're presenting the Holy Grail to the public year after year.
I have an S3, which is a great device, but on the right and on the bottom the "metal" bezel cut itself for no reason at all. It is 1 year old. And I paid FULL PRICE for this. And by full I mean that it costed me almost as much as a 6833.
I don't want Samsung to fill me with bs telling me the SPen is excellent, that the battery is interchangeable, that this, that that. I already know all that.
And i don't give a damn anymore.
ZU is progression, SW2 too, hell even the SBH52 impressed me more than the N3.
I'm gonna get on board with Sony, and whenever I'll see a guy with his Note 3 I'll say "Hey man, nice phone, I hope you're happy with what you got", not feeling envious, not feeling sorry for not buying it.
Because in the end, what YOU feel with your phone matters, not that extra 0.1ghz or that 1gb of ram.
Let's face it, about 1 out of 1000 Note3 or S4 users will root or even use their device to the fullest. The rest of them will simply feel happy that they can update their Facebook status saying 'I have a Note 3! Sweet! ", until they're not happy again when their friends buy something more powerful/stylish/popular.
I prefer being a 1 percenter, with a device that makes me smile, than being a 99 one, with the regret that I could have bought something more.
But hey, that's just my 2 cents.
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If you love development.. Samsung is really awful.. Sony is another level man
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androidindian said:
If you love development.. Samsung is really awful.. Sony is another level man
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There are 2 face on that medal you know...
On one face, Samsung hasn't always been keen with developers, not releasing sources and all, BUT thousands of people buy those, and as a result a lot of developers choose the device they develop on based on popularity, and on the fact that developing there would be more of a challenge.
On the other face, Sony has always been open with the developer community, but their popularity has started to grow big not that long ago, so we might have on the ZU the same level of devs there are on the Z.
As a matter of fact, some of them already started (just take a look on the Android development section), and that is even before the LTE version launched.
Let's wait for UK, US, Germany, France, Italy, Spain etc. all have this device on their shelves, I have big expectations.
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well, after viewing the Note 3 "coming out" party yesterday, I decided I am not interested in it...
I had a note 1, and a Note 2, which was a major upgrade to the note 1.
Fantastic phone, and I was hoping the Note 3 would be a major "upgrade" as well; but, the only upgrades, CPU speed, 3 gigs of Ram, and 13 MP camera isnt going to make the experience on the Note 3 that much better than the note 2.
I've been watching the Xperia Z Ultra since it came out, and, it looks like a fantastic phone; I am a big guy, so the size doesnt scare me, but I am waiting to see which US carriers will be carrying it.
I have owned at least 50 cell phones in my life, but mysteriously, NONE of them have been Sony phones, but I think this will change in the next 30 days.
It doesnt seem like there is alot of development on this phone yet, but, since many note 2 owners feel similiar to me, I am certain that there will be a large groupl that will move to this phone, once some US carriers are announced.
The quality of this phone seems fantastic; not sure if no flash for the camera will affect picture quality, and, hopefully, easy root/bootloader unlocking is just around the corner, since the sound from that tiny speaker appears to be lousy as well, but nothing that ViperMod or a different kernel wont fix!
The main problem SGN2 had and SGN3 as per first hands on, pics and vids also seems to have is, that - even if it is already to small for me as an Note 2 user - they're not making proper use of the screen size with view to UI on stock ROM.
In the end the Note 2 was and is just a sized up Galaxy.
And 2nd market (custom roms) is not a criterion on this topic for me, because if i have to customize the the product from day 1 to meet my needs, then there's something wrong and i'll better wait for the right deal.
wase4711 said:
well, after viewing the Note 3 "coming out" party yesterday, I decided I am not interested in it...
I had a note 1, and a Note 2, which was a major upgrade to the note 1.
Fantastic phone, and I was hoping the Note 3 would be a major "upgrade" as well; but, the only upgrades, CPU speed, 3 gigs of Ram, and 13 MP camera isnt going to make the experience on the Note 3 that much better than the note 2.
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Another user on another forum posted that maybe a real change will be seen when all S3s end their contract.
That's true for the S4 (they sold a lot less than what they were expecting), I was expecting it and I didn't fall for that.
That's true for the N3 too, as is a specced up S4 with SPen functions.
It will sell regardless of all this thoughts, but I could bet 1 out of 5 previous N2 owners will buy this N3, and the other 4 will scout around for a better choice or wait for the N4.
That's what I was planning to do skipping the iPhone 4 for the 5 (having the 3G), but Samsung stunned me with the S3 and I jumped ship.
I waited for a big change from the S3 to the S4, but I was ready to wait for the N3 this time.
Sony stunned me since they presented the ZU, I fell in love and that's it.
The only thing that would make me love even more this device would be having a stock-Google Play Edition.
That would be AWESOME.
Last but not least for the fact that we won't need implementation for the SPen, because the screen accept pens and pencils on its own...
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My friend and i were avid samsung users. We both had NOTE 1 then i sold it bought htc one x then sold it again and he too sold note and we both bought Note 2. Note 2 was a great device but design was my only grudge against it. Then in april i bought sony xperia z and now have htc one. And i swore that i wont fall in samsung bad design good performance trap. Currently trying to sell HTC ONE and i will buy Z ULTRA. and my friend too will buy z ultra no more shameSuck for us we had it enough
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nope
dont like amoled, never preffered samsung as a name brand, and i am happy with ZU
although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
corrado85 said:
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dont like amoled, never preffered samsung as a name brand, and i am happy with ZU
although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
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Agree.....
corrado85 said:
although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This
My friend's S4 has no more than 250 free Mb all time...
You clean the memory, exit, return to manage the ram, it has even less memory left... :what:
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Leaving Samsung behind. Time to move on. I love my new z ultra.. build quality is awesome. Note 3 is great, but same old same old except for specs. Each their own.
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Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
Nuwidol said:
Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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Advertising, advertising, and advertising. Oh, I forgot about advertising.
They could sell a smart ring for your toe advertising it as the next companion for the summer for getting rid of fungus because it has a 5mpx camera that scans the pavement before you set your foot on it.
Everybody would simply love it.
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Nuwidol said:
Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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I actually really like the bezels on my Ultra. Helps to hold when watching a movie etc
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Hell yes...
More portable format, better camera, camera flash, SD card, removable battery, stylus built in, pressure sensitive wacom touchscreen, better hardware and software.
Basically, N3 is everything the Z wants to be...
FinancialWar said:
Hell yes...
More portable format, better camera, camera flash, SD card, removable battery, stylus built in, pressure sensitive wacom touchscreen, better hardware and software.
Basically, N3 is everything the Z wants to be...
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Yeah... remind me again why you're browsing the Z Ultra forum...?
You see, you're everything Samsung wants.
Go for it my friend, you deserve it.
Samsung wants to be the next Apple. Good for money at first, but look at the iPhone crowd now... oh yeah, these is no crowd.
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[Q] Is the Z ultra still worth buying? Did you guys get used to the size?

Hey guys,
so I've been eyeballing with the Z ultra since last year september or something. It was around the time my Note 2 broke and I needed a new phone.
However a few months after it was released the price was just too high (~600€) for me to afford - . So I went with the Nexus5 which was released for only 350 Euros and I really needed a phone back then. Now the ZU is half the price (300€). Interesting price development which really implies that this phone realls isnt for everyone.
so I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about daily usage of the phone - mostly in terms of Size. When sitting somewhere, standing and stuff, I dont care about the size but when moving around I'm afraid it would get impractical.
Does it fit in your trouser-poket at all?
Or you guys mostly put it in the pocket of the Jacket?
Do you always have to wear a small bag to go out with the phone?
How do you carry it when its hot? (Maybe someone who bought it in a hot place since it was released in the fall)
On the other hand, there is the Note 3, which is currently available for 360€ (weekend offer, normally 450€). So I'm really strugglin with the choice of which device to get. If the ZU size is really dealable i'd definitely prefer it over the N3. I would really appreciate it if you could share your experience.
(I know there have been rumors, whether there's gonna be a Z2 Ultra or not but looking at the price (which would be like 700 on release) I don't think I that the new Z2U would matter to me until 2015.)
BluBBa said:
Hey guys,
so I've been eyeballing with the Z ultra since last year september or something. It was around the time my Note 2 broke and I needed a new phone.
However a few months after it was released the price was just too high (~600€) for me to afford - . So I went with the Nexus5 which was released for only 350 Euros and I really needed a phone back then. Now the ZU is half the price (300€). Interesting price development which really implies that this phone realls isnt for everyone.
so I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about daily usage of the phone - mostly in terms of Size. When sitting somewhere, standing and stuff, I dont care about the size but when moving around I'm afraid it would get impractical.
Does it fit in your trouser-poket at all?
Or you guys mostly put it in the pocket of the Jacket?
Do you always have to wear a small bag to go out with the phone?
How do you carry it when its hot? (Maybe someone who bought it in a hot place since it was released in the fall)
On the other hand, there is the Note 3, which is currently available for 360€ (weekend offer, normally 450€). So I'm really strugglin with the choice of which device to get. If the ZU size is really dealable i'd definitely prefer it over the N3. I would really appreciate it if you could share your experience.
(I know there have been rumors, whether there's gonna be a Z2 Ultra or not but looking at the price (which would be like 700 on release) I don't think I that the new Z2U would matter to me until 2015.)
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So many posts like yours. Please search? But anyway, here's my answer. Yes it is still worth to buy. The development curve has been reaching plateau for a while so it will still be fast for 1-2years to the future. As for carrying i just bring it into my chest pocket and no damn given..
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Phone is definitely big but easily pocketable in all but the slimmest of pants. Personally i sold mine partly because of the size. After three months of ownership i just wanted something much smaller to move around with.
But to answer ur question it is still one of the most powerful out there. Even the z2ultra i suspect will be a minor spec bump over the original much like the z2 is over the z1. I say go for it.
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hansip87 said:
So many posts like yours. Please search? But anyway, here's my answer. Yes it is still worth to buy. The development curve has been reaching plateau for a while so it will still be fast for 1-2years to the future. As for carrying i just bring it into my chest pocket and no damn given..
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I'm sorry, I wasnt sure what to search for, so I went for the keyword "pocket" and only found about how much people had no trouble having it in their pocket.
However I would rather like to know about what kind of pockets you use. Does it always have to be the Jacket? What about when wearing shorts?
How about the situation when you're in the office and wanna go get some coffee and dont need your jacket or bag?
Thanks for the answer.
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Phone is definitely big but easily pocketable in all but the slimmest of pants. Personally i sold mine partly because of the size. After three months of ownership i just wanted something much smaller to move around with.
But to answer ur question it is still one of the most powerful out there. Even the z2ultra i suspect will be a minor spec bump over the original much like the z2 is over the z1. I say go for it.
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Thank you for your answer.
So you're saying it fits but it makes you feel uncomfortable when moving around with it in your (trouser)pocket?
Just to put it plain and simple if you want to buy the Z Ultra because of how comfortable it fits in your pocket then I suggest you move on.
Its like saying you wanna buy a Ferrari but but are afraid that it might be too fast.
depends...
I live in a tropical island where the only two types of weather we get is hot and scorching. As such clothing is light the majority if the time. as such the only real option is a pants pocket which fits comfortably but you still know its there with every step. Honestly its not as bad as I may be making it sound but its really up to personal preference. If possible find someone you know who has one and see how it feels to you.
Personally after owning many phones of varying sizes I've found that my preference is an smaller phone (my Lumia 820 is the perfect size) and now I have a larger tablet for media consumption and general use. Usage scenario preferences vary from person to person. The only real way to know what is best for you is to try them all. Its a bit of a hassle and maybe a little expensive but its the foolproof way.
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After using the Z ultra for a couple weeks it doesn't really seem big anymore. I could even go a little bigger.
sanvara said:
After using the Z ultra for a couple weeks it doesn't really seem big anymore. I could even go a little bigger.
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Had it since December, and much the same- I could stand going up to 6.5" or even a 7" screen as a phablet.
Only thing I might ever switch to is those Asus Padfones (Or Phonepads? Can't remember which one is which). Those ones that let you stick their phone into a tablet. Sounds nice and the best of both worlds, but the only one that's come up into the US is a 7" one, which just isn't worth the effort (Plus, I don't know if they work with custom firmware, so...).
had in when first time arrive on my county with cost almost 570 Euro, till now im still proud with my ZU, its never let me down.
check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2666638
The ZU is still very relevant. It has the S800, 2GB RAM a 1080p display and other high-end specifications. It seems like the mobile world has plateaued lately, and there are really no "must have" features coming up, as far as I'm concerned. The Snapdragon 801 and 805 are the new SoCs, but they are only marginally better than the 800, so there's really no reason to upgrade. QHD screens? Sure, if you want to get poor battery life. The pixels are rising, but the battery capacity is not.
Upcoming devices:
- Galaxy S5: 2014 ugliest phone (IMO) and it looks like Samsung is checking how many stupid people are out there.
- The New HTC One (M8): Not officially announced yet, but we've pretty much seen the whole thing already, including in a 14 minute German video review yesterday. Nothing special.
Xperia Z2: Looks really nice, but not worth it if you're currently owning an S800 device.
Xperia Z2 Ultra(?): Will probably be announced this summer like last year. Will probably run the 801, 3GB RAM and an updated design. Most people, including me, will probably want it, but it's not worth it. It's like when I had the Galaxy Note and the Note 2 arrived. It wasn't worth the upgrade.
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The XZU C6833 is one of my favorite phablet phones on 2013 and 2014.
Still worth the purchase. Plus im having fun with it when I see a tiny iphone. Haha I'd like to tease my girlfriend but she does used my device more now than her iphone. The text and viewing content has been excellent
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The phone is indeed pocket-able even in the tightest of pants if your a guy, most female pants have much shallower pockets and thus my sister isnt able to fit my phone into her pockets.
The thing is that although it fits sitting becomes cumbersome as the pants constrict the phone and pushes it towards your leg so i often have it out when i know im going to sit for long periods of time. Also it is a pain when you have to take it out of your pockets under your jacket.
In insanely hot climates, like 35 degrees C the phone is also uncomfortable...especially if you sweat.
In comparison to the n3, i would say that the ZU has a nicer build, and also a larger screen. LCD is an added bonus if you prefer it over amoled. Plus its also water resistant which makes it useful when rainy/when bathing. Also, the lack of touch-wiz is also a bonus
But the n3 has (in my opinion) a more optimized OS for a larger screen such as multiwindow (yes i realize sony has tiny apps but its just not the same), better speakers, and a better camera. Plus a smaller amoled screen.
If the waterproof-ness and larger screen appeal more to you i would suggest the ZU, otherwise i myself would've chosen the note 3 as amoled is my preferred screen tech. Hope this helps...
Have had the phone for a few months, and pretty much doubt I'll go with anything with a smaller screen in the future. If the ZU2 ends up being only a minor upgrade as I and some others are expecting, I'll probably wait for the ZU3...saves me shelling out $$$ everyone 6-12 months
Not the perfect phone, but the only one out with most of what I was after in a handset.
Its summer all year round in my country and the phone is anytime cooler than the weather lol.
I carry the phone in my sling bag so I go for the biggest screen that's available for me.
Performance and spec for the ZU will last another 2 years before it becomes obselete so definitely worth getting for the price now. I remembered getting the ZU on day one and it costs about USD 900.
Some other upcoming models in the 5.5 -7 inch region you can consider might be
Oppo Find 7 (5.5 inch 2k display, Snapdragon 801, 3GB, 32GB )
Huawei MediaPad X1 LTE (7inch 1,920 x 1,200 LTPS, Arms Cortex A9 Soc, 2GB, 16GB)
Vivo Xplay 3S (6 inch 2k display, Snapdragon 800, 3GB, 32GB)
I think that it is safe to say that the Z Ultra is by far the best product in the 6" screen-size range (let's face it, the alternatives are not even close in terms of quality...). So, if screen size is a factor for you as it is for many of us, go for it, you will not regret this.
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****, I just across an announcement on ZTE Nubia X6 just now. The spec is amazing
6.4inch FHD
Snapdragon 801
3gb ram
128gb internal
Dual sim support 3g and LTE
4000mh battery
13mp camera
This is truly a ZU contender.
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This is truly a ZU contender.
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Sure, if you believe that a Lada with 600 HP is as good as an AMG.
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Sure, if you believe that a Lada with 600 HP is as good as an AMG.
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I get what you mean but there's always a struggle between quality and spec. The lada will cross the finish line first that's what some people go for.
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I get what you mean but there's always a struggle between quality and spec. The lada will cross the finish line first that's what some people go for.
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Thinking of buying

Hi guys I'm thinking of buying a Song Ultra Z and just wanted to get you guy's input if there are some downfalls that I don't know of/commonly known.
Im upgrading from a galaxy note one which has been a nightmare: calls breaking up, power button, overheating.
Also if you have any recomended accessories.
Much Thanks!
I came from a Note1 myself and have only one advice for you: Buy it blindly [emoji16]
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I too, came from the Note and i'm still happy with it (bought mine last september). It's pretty big (but very thin) and the camera isn't the greatest, and that's about it really.
I came from a note also. Its really nice phone. Although battery is not that good compared to note2. Also it has no camera flash but im still okay with it
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#Note3 all the way. Love mine. Not a big fan of the Sony phones.. That one in particular.. Read some poor reviews, guess it's a lot of opinions. Good luck
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Came from note, note 2, played a lot with note 3 but at the end of the day still happy with my choice and that is zu (****ty camera)
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I've never been as happy with a device as I am with the ultra. And I had a lot of them. You need to like the size though.
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Its great. I personally like the google edition software better but once I got used to the size it is awesome.
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Its great. I personally like the google edition software better but once I got used to the size it is awesome.
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Buy the Sony phone and run the ported GPe ROM on it !
Think of buying this phone as it is relatively cheap compared to other phones im my region.
Should I get this or the G2, the prices are the same...
I like this thing primarily for its size and display.
I just want one thing to know, can I flash cm11 android 4.4 here? I dont care about warranty. My current phone, lg optimus 4x never fell from my hand ever, so I am careful with my devices.
I would be going for a 5.5 inch phone but this thing is the cheapest larger than 5 inch phone.
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Think of buying this phone as it is relatively cheap compared to other phones im my region.
Should I get this or the G2, the prices are the same...
I like this thing primarily for its size and display.
I just want one thing to know, can I flash cm11 android 4.4 here? I dont care about warranty. My current phone, lg optimus 4x never fell from my hand ever, so I am careful with my devices.
I would be going for a 5.5 inch phone but this thing is the cheapest larger than 5 inch phone.
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Yes, CM11, and others are available, so that's not an issue. You've probably seen the preview of Android "L" today, so just imagine that on 6.44 inches. It'll be sweet.
The G2 isn't a bad device though, but you can't compare those two since they are two different types of devices (phone vs phablet), but I can easily recommend the Ultra.
I've had every high end phone and this by far is the best if you can deal with no flash and mediocre camera performance. I never need a tablet this thing is actually my main computer. I torrent the hell out of it fixed the ext sd card write permission and download like crazy on unlimited data.
bak3donh1gh said:
Hi guys I'm thinking of buying a Song Ultra Z and just wanted to get you guy's input if there are some downfalls that I don't know of/commonly known.
Im upgrading from a galaxy note one which has been a nightmare: calls breaking up, power button, overheating.
Also if you have any recomended accessories.
Much Thanks!
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You can also try save your device, but this needs root. Try LagFix (fstrim) from the Play Store ^^.

Question/Advise: From Nexus to Xperia Z family

Hi,
I'm planning to upgrade from a Nexus 5 to a Sony Z5 compact.
But I've been in the Nexus family for a long time (Nexus 4, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 5 in that order. And I've used the Nexus 5 for almost 2 years). The Galaxy Nexus was the most comfortable smartphone I've used, and the Z5 compact is even smaller, with 65mm of width will be more comfortable.
I have some doubts about Xperia's Lollipop:
1) Could you tell If there are real differences between Google's Lollipop and Xperia's Lollipop?
2) Can I just "disable" all the Sony system apps, and install Google Keyboard, Calendar, Keep, Photos, (maybe Camera too, but don't know about that)?
3) And what about the stock Google's Phone and People/Contacts applications? (I assume these apps can't be replaced with the google ones, in that case, Is it possible to at least use Google contacts sync as default?).
And some other doubts about the phone itself:
4) I don't use screen protectors with Gorilla Glass 1/2/3 screens. But this new Sony phone includes "Chemical tempered glass + Anti-fingerprint coating", Is that a good glass?
Please consider that, I don't care about the scratches that are only seen when the screen is off and the sun is impacting directly on the screen.
If you had/have a Nexus and the opportunity try/have a Z3 compact or another similar Sony phone your experience will be appreciated!
Thanks!
I have a Nexus 5 and a Z3 Compact. While I prefer the "pure" Android experience of the N5, the Z3 Compact performs as well, if not better, has about three times the battery life, and fits better in my pocket. You will have Sony bloat, many (not all) of which can be disabled. There are a few Sony-specific icons (e.g. Settings) as well. You can use all the Google apps you want but you cannot replace the stock apps unless you root the phone. Overall, the Z3C is a great phone and I plan to purchase the Z5C as soon as it's available.
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I have a Nexus 5 and a Z3 Compact. While I prefer the "pure" Android experience of the N5, the Z3 Compact performs as well, if not better, has about three times the battery life, and fits better in my pocket. You will have Sony bloat, many (not all) of which can be disabled. There are a few Sony-specific icons (e.g. Settings) as well. You can use all the Google apps you want but you cannot replace the stock apps unless you root the phone. Overall, the Z3C is a great phone and I plan to purchase the Z5C as soon as it's available.
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Thanks for the reply! I'm planning to get a Z5c too.
The Nexus are getting pretty big for me. The best size in a Nexus was in the Galaxy Nexus (without tpu).
Also tried the original Moto X, that phone fits perfect in the hand.
Did you try "Google Camera" in your Z3C? Is it recommended as a default one?
I don't use Google Camera. Sony uses some proprietary stuff on its camera processing so to get the best results I use the Sony Camera app.
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I don't use Google Camera. Sony uses some proprietary stuff on its camera processing so to get the best results I use the Sony Camera app.
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does anyone know if you can still get custom sony camera stuff on other roms or is that tied to the sony stock rom?
edit this: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...r-low-light-camera-performance-thanks-to-drm/
im also a n5 user thinking of getting z5c, only thing holding me back is its almost double the 2015 n5 price here in canada..
How is that possible? 32GB Nexus 5 rumoured to be $449 (so I'd guess about £399 for UK). Z5 Compact is £429 and 32GB. Not even close to double. What is going on in Canada?!
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How is that possible? 32GB Nexus 5 rumoured to be $449 (so I'd guess about £399 for UK). Z5 Compact is £429 and 32GB. Not even close to double. What is going on in Canada?!
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well I converted the z5c to over $850 cdn from the clove UK price...
new n5 is supposed to be $400 USD which is just over $500 cdn (might be lower $450 like the ps4 is here)
Canadian dollar is taking tanking right now.... and sony doesn't make our easy to buy their phones here...
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well I converted the z5c to over $850 cdn from the clove UK price...
new n5 is supposed to be $400 USD which is just over $500 cdn (might be lower $450 like the ps4 is here)
Canadian dollar is taking tanking right now.... and sony doesn't make our easy to buy their phones here...
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Well I would think that it would make much more sense to compare the Canadian price of the Sony phone vs the Canadian price of the Nexus. UK and mainland Europe gets completely screwed over in pricing but that's not the case for North America.
nolook said:
well I converted the z5c to over $850 cdn from the clove UK price...
new n5 is supposed to be $400 USD which is just over $500 cdn (might be lower $450 like the ps4 is here)
Canadian dollar is taking tanking right now.... and sony doesn't make our easy to buy their phones here...
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cant do that cause sony wont be officially be releasing the phone here....
The Z5C in Amazon.de costs about 550€ (preorder).
I think it's the best deal so far (in Europe).
To that price you shall rest European V.A.T. and taxes and convert from EUR to USD to get some "similar" price version of a USA's state that hasn't taxes.
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The best deal has to be clove.co.uk @ £430 including a pair of sony BT headphones. Even if you don't want the cans, they will go for £30 so think of it as a rebate. I was lucky enough to pre order my Z5C from them in the two hours it took for them to correct the price from £399 back to £430. I am assured that they are going to honour the deal. Win! This has ended my wait for the unicorn that is the saygus V2....
Should I cancel my Carphone Warehouse preorder and buy direct from Sony? Which has better customer service? There's only a £10 difference between them once postage cost is taken into account. So it's all about the customer service. Anyone share any good/bad experiences with these retailers?
Alternatively, read the above post.
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Alternatively, read the above post.
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I'm desperate to get it ASAP and both Sony and CPW will start deliveries on 29th September as opposed to the week after. I don't mind paying a little extra for the privilege of a week earlier delivery as I already have some decent Sony headphones that probably outclass the ones being bundled in by Clove.
I've got a Coral one on preorder currently but I can't decide whether I prefer the Yellow that's exclusive to the Sony store. It's hard to know what they really look like when the colours look different whether I'm looking at Sony's website or pictures taken by tech websites for hands-on previews.
Well, mine has been dispatched from clove. They honoured the price error so I have the phone and Sony headphones for £405. Bargain. Let's just hope it doesn't melt into a useless peice of electronics in my hand, as reported by many unscrupulous websites who seem to have all jumped on the bandwagon after one questionable video was released by one person in China. Great way to get YouTube hits...
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Well, mine has been dispatched from clove. They honoured the price error so I have the phone and Sony headphones for £405. Bargain. Let's just hope it doesn't melt into a useless peice of electronics in my hand, as reported by many unscrupulous websites who seem to have all jumped on the bandwagon after one questionable video was released by one person in China. Great way to get YouTube hits...
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I have Z5 Compact. It runs cooler than my Nexus 5.
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thesebastian said:
Hi,
1) Could you tell If there are real differences between Google's Lollipop and Xperia's Lollipop?
Something Like SmallApp & Xperia Home as Launcher
Also some extra features like Call Motion in Setting & White-Balance & Xperia Theme...
2) Can I just "disable" all the Sony system apps, and install Google Keyboard, Calendar, Keep, Photos, (maybe Camera too, but don't know about that)?
YES
3) And what about the stock Google's Phone and People/Contacts applications? (I assume these apps can't be replaced with the google ones, in that case, Is it possible to at least use Google contacts sync as default?).
Yes when u set ur google account all data from ur account will sync to ur phone
4) I don't use screen protectors with Gorilla Glass 1/2/3 screens. But this new Sony phone includes "Chemical tempered glass + Anti-fingerprint coating", Is that a good glass?
Please consider that, I don't care about the scratches that are only seen when the screen is off and the sun is impacting directly on the screen.
Yes the Glasses & Display itself on Xperia devices are really premium materials
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:good:
Its around ten pounds for a glass screen protector. That's got to be worth investing in. Whether the screen is off or not, scratches are just plain upsetting. Its a damn sight easier to peel off the protector and put another on than replace the digitizer.
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I have Z5 Compact. It runs cooler than my Nexus 5.
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Well I have just faffed about with some AR stuff on the camera and then shot some timelapse video and it got to about 40 deg C. Thats fairly hot by my reckoning. That was without my bumper case on. The device even felt it fair to warn me it was gonna get toasty.
Nexus doesn't have the AR stuff so unfortunately I can't compare but the 810 ran a few degrees cooler in 3DMark consistently compared to the 800. This was repeatable.

UMi Rome X is the cheapest full metal 3G smartphone with $49.99?

UMi Rome is one of the most successful devices from the Chinese brand UMi, thanks to its excellent design and price-performance relation. Given the success of this device, UMi has decided to release an even cheaper version of it: The UMi Rome X.
The new UMi Rome X will sport an identical design to its sibling, the UMi Rome, characterized for offering a premium appearance, despite its low price. In fact, this new device will be made of metal, with laser-cut frame, so users will not only have a good-looking phone, but a durable device.
The carefully polished stainless steel metal frame of the UMi ROME X is extremely lightweight and rugged at the same time. Exquisite design of ultra-narrow border around the phone are like works of art! High light chamfering, 16 steps CNC process technology, 7.9mm thickness and other high-end processes make the UMi ROME X possible.
The UMi ROME X features a unibody shell that extends to the back to form an arched case, which will sit in the centre of your palm with utmost comfort. Metal design Polycarbonate made battery cover, the back of the ROME X is a beauty to behold.
In terms of hardware, UMi is offering a 5.5-inch, LTPS 1280 x 720 HD display, good for a pixel density of 267 ppi. The glass covering the panel is of the 2.5D curved type, a detail which will allow users to have a good visual experience, even from difficult angles. Also, the HD technology helps to display vivid colors, and to save battery power, which is extremely important for most users.
Underneath the screen, UMi has packed a quad-core MediaTek MTK6580 processor, coupled with 1GB RAM. Considering the 720p resolution, UMi Rome X should perform well for common tasks. This device will also incorporate 8GB of built-in storage (expandable through microSD cards).
On the imaging front, UMi Rome X will incorporate a Sony IMX179 sensor, which can offer up to 13-megapixel resolution using software interpolation, and a dual LED flash at the back. The secondary camera will use a 2-megapixel sensor, whose resolution can be interpolated to 5MP.
As happens with UMi Rome, Rome X will be powered by Android Lollipop 5.1, and incorporate a 2,500mAh battery, more than enough to enjoy great autonomy, even with heavy use.
This new device will cost $49.99, being the cheapest full metal 3G smartphone on today’s market. UMi Rome X presale start is scheduled for January 11th, and it will be announced two weeks after, on January 25th.
too near with Umi Rome...
we'll see
The features looks pretty good... let me check with the reviews and ratings..
Seems very interesting. But only 1GB ram? Sure, it's a cheap smartphone, but I don't think that a 2GB chip would cost them a lot more. I would prefer it to have 2GB and cost 59$. Nevermind I hope they will announce different versions. We'll see.
fabi_92 said:
too near with Umi Rome...
we'll see
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yes it is
[email protected] said:
Seems very interesting. But only 1GB ram? Sure, it's a cheap smartphone, but I don't think that a 2GB chip would cost them a lot more. I would prefer it to have 2GB and cost 59$. Nevermind I hope they will announce different versions. We'll see.
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ummm, for the $49 what kind of phone do we expected,ahahah
smartwinner said:
ummm, for the $49 what kind of phone do we expected,ahahah
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I agree, but as I said, I prefer to pay an extra 5-10$ for 2GBs of RAM instead of 1GB
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I agree, but as I said, I prefer to pay an extra 5-10$ for 2GBs of RAM instead of 1GB
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ahaha, $5-10 more can get 2 RAM? What phone that can be??
As it seems it's price is not going to be $49.99 but $74.99, as it entered at presale on geekbuying.
at least is the cheapest one on the market
aloutos said:
at least is the cheapest one on the market
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Yes, I guess the rumors were somewhat wrong.
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As it seems it's price is not going to be $49.99 but $74.99, as it entered at presale on geekbuying.
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ummm, but this day I get the best price from antelife $59.99 for the flash price but the normal price $69.99
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Yes, I guess the rumors were somewhat wrong.
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do you mean the rumors about the price? I think that is the strategy from the Official,ahaha
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do you mean the rumors about the price? I think that is the strategy from the Official,ahaha
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Really? This strategy might attract a different group than the targeted one
For this price we can take it as seconde phone
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Really? This strategy might attract a different group than the targeted one
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umm, maybe. But some customer will be attracted by the price then will make search about it. although the price is little bit expensive than the rumors... But still a attractive one right?
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For this price we can take it as seconde phone
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second hand? But we do need to do more search before making order about the UMI Phone.
have one.
very bad quality. i think what better add more money and buy better.
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and, somebody see price 49.99 ? IMHO 60 USD is price everywhere.

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