[Q] Is the Z ultra still worth buying? Did you guys get used to the size? - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Hey guys,
so I've been eyeballing with the Z ultra since last year september or something. It was around the time my Note 2 broke and I needed a new phone.
However a few months after it was released the price was just too high (~600€) for me to afford - . So I went with the Nexus5 which was released for only 350 Euros and I really needed a phone back then. Now the ZU is half the price (300€). Interesting price development which really implies that this phone realls isnt for everyone.
so I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about daily usage of the phone - mostly in terms of Size. When sitting somewhere, standing and stuff, I dont care about the size but when moving around I'm afraid it would get impractical.
Does it fit in your trouser-poket at all?
Or you guys mostly put it in the pocket of the Jacket?
Do you always have to wear a small bag to go out with the phone?
How do you carry it when its hot? (Maybe someone who bought it in a hot place since it was released in the fall)
On the other hand, there is the Note 3, which is currently available for 360€ (weekend offer, normally 450€). So I'm really strugglin with the choice of which device to get. If the ZU size is really dealable i'd definitely prefer it over the N3. I would really appreciate it if you could share your experience.
(I know there have been rumors, whether there's gonna be a Z2 Ultra or not but looking at the price (which would be like 700 on release) I don't think I that the new Z2U would matter to me until 2015.)

BluBBa said:
Hey guys,
so I've been eyeballing with the Z ultra since last year september or something. It was around the time my Note 2 broke and I needed a new phone.
However a few months after it was released the price was just too high (~600€) for me to afford - . So I went with the Nexus5 which was released for only 350 Euros and I really needed a phone back then. Now the ZU is half the price (300€). Interesting price development which really implies that this phone realls isnt for everyone.
so I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about daily usage of the phone - mostly in terms of Size. When sitting somewhere, standing and stuff, I dont care about the size but when moving around I'm afraid it would get impractical.
Does it fit in your trouser-poket at all?
Or you guys mostly put it in the pocket of the Jacket?
Do you always have to wear a small bag to go out with the phone?
How do you carry it when its hot? (Maybe someone who bought it in a hot place since it was released in the fall)
On the other hand, there is the Note 3, which is currently available for 360€ (weekend offer, normally 450€). So I'm really strugglin with the choice of which device to get. If the ZU size is really dealable i'd definitely prefer it over the N3. I would really appreciate it if you could share your experience.
(I know there have been rumors, whether there's gonna be a Z2 Ultra or not but looking at the price (which would be like 700 on release) I don't think I that the new Z2U would matter to me until 2015.)
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So many posts like yours. Please search? But anyway, here's my answer. Yes it is still worth to buy. The development curve has been reaching plateau for a while so it will still be fast for 1-2years to the future. As for carrying i just bring it into my chest pocket and no damn given..
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Phone is definitely big but easily pocketable in all but the slimmest of pants. Personally i sold mine partly because of the size. After three months of ownership i just wanted something much smaller to move around with.
But to answer ur question it is still one of the most powerful out there. Even the z2ultra i suspect will be a minor spec bump over the original much like the z2 is over the z1. I say go for it.
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hansip87 said:
So many posts like yours. Please search? But anyway, here's my answer. Yes it is still worth to buy. The development curve has been reaching plateau for a while so it will still be fast for 1-2years to the future. As for carrying i just bring it into my chest pocket and no damn given..
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I'm sorry, I wasnt sure what to search for, so I went for the keyword "pocket" and only found about how much people had no trouble having it in their pocket.
However I would rather like to know about what kind of pockets you use. Does it always have to be the Jacket? What about when wearing shorts?
How about the situation when you're in the office and wanna go get some coffee and dont need your jacket or bag?
Thanks for the answer.
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Phone is definitely big but easily pocketable in all but the slimmest of pants. Personally i sold mine partly because of the size. After three months of ownership i just wanted something much smaller to move around with.
But to answer ur question it is still one of the most powerful out there. Even the z2ultra i suspect will be a minor spec bump over the original much like the z2 is over the z1. I say go for it.
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Thank you for your answer.
So you're saying it fits but it makes you feel uncomfortable when moving around with it in your (trouser)pocket?

Just to put it plain and simple if you want to buy the Z Ultra because of how comfortable it fits in your pocket then I suggest you move on.
Its like saying you wanna buy a Ferrari but but are afraid that it might be too fast.

depends...
I live in a tropical island where the only two types of weather we get is hot and scorching. As such clothing is light the majority if the time. as such the only real option is a pants pocket which fits comfortably but you still know its there with every step. Honestly its not as bad as I may be making it sound but its really up to personal preference. If possible find someone you know who has one and see how it feels to you.
Personally after owning many phones of varying sizes I've found that my preference is an smaller phone (my Lumia 820 is the perfect size) and now I have a larger tablet for media consumption and general use. Usage scenario preferences vary from person to person. The only real way to know what is best for you is to try them all. Its a bit of a hassle and maybe a little expensive but its the foolproof way.
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After using the Z ultra for a couple weeks it doesn't really seem big anymore. I could even go a little bigger.

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After using the Z ultra for a couple weeks it doesn't really seem big anymore. I could even go a little bigger.
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Had it since December, and much the same- I could stand going up to 6.5" or even a 7" screen as a phablet.
Only thing I might ever switch to is those Asus Padfones (Or Phonepads? Can't remember which one is which). Those ones that let you stick their phone into a tablet. Sounds nice and the best of both worlds, but the only one that's come up into the US is a 7" one, which just isn't worth the effort (Plus, I don't know if they work with custom firmware, so...).

had in when first time arrive on my county with cost almost 570 Euro, till now im still proud with my ZU, its never let me down.

check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2666638

The ZU is still very relevant. It has the S800, 2GB RAM a 1080p display and other high-end specifications. It seems like the mobile world has plateaued lately, and there are really no "must have" features coming up, as far as I'm concerned. The Snapdragon 801 and 805 are the new SoCs, but they are only marginally better than the 800, so there's really no reason to upgrade. QHD screens? Sure, if you want to get poor battery life. The pixels are rising, but the battery capacity is not.
Upcoming devices:
- Galaxy S5: 2014 ugliest phone (IMO) and it looks like Samsung is checking how many stupid people are out there.
- The New HTC One (M8): Not officially announced yet, but we've pretty much seen the whole thing already, including in a 14 minute German video review yesterday. Nothing special.
Xperia Z2: Looks really nice, but not worth it if you're currently owning an S800 device.
Xperia Z2 Ultra(?): Will probably be announced this summer like last year. Will probably run the 801, 3GB RAM and an updated design. Most people, including me, will probably want it, but it's not worth it. It's like when I had the Galaxy Note and the Note 2 arrived. It wasn't worth the upgrade.
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The XZU C6833 is one of my favorite phablet phones on 2013 and 2014.
Still worth the purchase. Plus im having fun with it when I see a tiny iphone. Haha I'd like to tease my girlfriend but she does used my device more now than her iphone. The text and viewing content has been excellent
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The phone is indeed pocket-able even in the tightest of pants if your a guy, most female pants have much shallower pockets and thus my sister isnt able to fit my phone into her pockets.
The thing is that although it fits sitting becomes cumbersome as the pants constrict the phone and pushes it towards your leg so i often have it out when i know im going to sit for long periods of time. Also it is a pain when you have to take it out of your pockets under your jacket.
In insanely hot climates, like 35 degrees C the phone is also uncomfortable...especially if you sweat.
In comparison to the n3, i would say that the ZU has a nicer build, and also a larger screen. LCD is an added bonus if you prefer it over amoled. Plus its also water resistant which makes it useful when rainy/when bathing. Also, the lack of touch-wiz is also a bonus
But the n3 has (in my opinion) a more optimized OS for a larger screen such as multiwindow (yes i realize sony has tiny apps but its just not the same), better speakers, and a better camera. Plus a smaller amoled screen.
If the waterproof-ness and larger screen appeal more to you i would suggest the ZU, otherwise i myself would've chosen the note 3 as amoled is my preferred screen tech. Hope this helps...

Have had the phone for a few months, and pretty much doubt I'll go with anything with a smaller screen in the future. If the ZU2 ends up being only a minor upgrade as I and some others are expecting, I'll probably wait for the ZU3...saves me shelling out $$$ everyone 6-12 months
Not the perfect phone, but the only one out with most of what I was after in a handset.

Its summer all year round in my country and the phone is anytime cooler than the weather lol.
I carry the phone in my sling bag so I go for the biggest screen that's available for me.
Performance and spec for the ZU will last another 2 years before it becomes obselete so definitely worth getting for the price now. I remembered getting the ZU on day one and it costs about USD 900.
Some other upcoming models in the 5.5 -7 inch region you can consider might be
Oppo Find 7 (5.5 inch 2k display, Snapdragon 801, 3GB, 32GB )
Huawei MediaPad X1 LTE (7inch 1,920 x 1,200 LTPS, Arms Cortex A9 Soc, 2GB, 16GB)
Vivo Xplay 3S (6 inch 2k display, Snapdragon 800, 3GB, 32GB)

I think that it is safe to say that the Z Ultra is by far the best product in the 6" screen-size range (let's face it, the alternatives are not even close in terms of quality...). So, if screen size is a factor for you as it is for many of us, go for it, you will not regret this.
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****, I just across an announcement on ZTE Nubia X6 just now. The spec is amazing
6.4inch FHD
Snapdragon 801
3gb ram
128gb internal
Dual sim support 3g and LTE
4000mh battery
13mp camera
This is truly a ZU contender.
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Leechoonhwee said:
This is truly a ZU contender.
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Sure, if you believe that a Lada with 600 HP is as good as an AMG.
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LordManhattan said:
Sure, if you believe that a Lada with 600 HP is as good as an AMG.
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I get what you mean but there's always a struggle between quality and spec. The lada will cross the finish line first that's what some people go for.
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Leechoonhwee said:
I get what you mean but there's always a struggle between quality and spec. The lada will cross the finish line first that's what some people go for.
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Like Sony said, difference is in detail, Sony detail

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5.9" HTC One Max

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...n-leaked-photo-looks-like-a-gigantic-htc-one/
If the leaks are true, I may switch to HTC over the Note 3. That's all around sexy.
You want sexy? 3 words + 1 letter - Sony Xperia Z Ultra...
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Yeah been that yesterday ...nice device ...but non removable battery is a bust for me
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Damn! Yeah, I hate the idea of a none removable battery too.
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Damn! Yeah, I hate the idea of a none removable battery too.
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Yup. A non removable battery is definitely in the no buy zone for me as well.
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You figure companies would realize most people would rather have a removable battery.. Well at least in my eyes ...I'll never buy a phone that won't allow that option.
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You figure companies would realize most people would rather have a removable battery.. Well at least in my eyes ...I'll never buy a phone that won't allow that option.
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honestly ill sacrifice removable battery for waterproofness
lots of companies make extended battery cases that can be used if the battery doesnt fare well
BUT it should be expected to not have a removable battery on an HTC device now days, all their phones are built unibody
Luckily enough I'm not a clumsy person but I do give my note hell sometimes
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I'm freaking out man! Definitely getting this or the note 3. s dragon 800 is looking mighty tasty. If the HTC has an SD card I'm kind of leaning that way. My logical side tells me my i717 running carbon/ uber is more than fine for anything i do. But I like new shiny stuff so #$%# logic.
Non removable batteries can be shaped anyway they want. That's why the Z Ultra is so thin. As for the HTC I like the Speakers and the Screen size. But the triluminous on the Z Ultra is part of Sony's 4k technology and thats nice. I just don't like the door hatches to the ports and it may be to big for my pocket. As for Note 3 all I've heard was Snapdragon 800, 2.5 GB ram, and a new design format but I think its going to look like a bigger S4. We'll find out in Sept for the Unpack Event.
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It's tempting, but no WACOM digitizer, no sale.
Waterproof? Sleek design, front facing speakers, similar specks as GN3. Mite join the dark side next time around.
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It's tempting, but no WACOM digitizer, no sale.
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What do you use it for? Just curious. I have a Note 1, Wife has a note 2, my mom has a Note 2, and if you combined the amount of time we've all used the stylus, you'd have about 4 seconds worth of time between the three of us. It's always seemed to us as a really inconvenient way to do what you can do with your finger.
Anthony820 said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...n-leaked-photo-looks-like-a-gigantic-htc-one/
If the leaks are true, I may switch to HTC over the Note 3. That's all around sexy.
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Why on earth would you choose that? If the Note 3 has the Snapdragon 800, its going to be a beast.
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Anthony820 said:
What do you use it for? Just curious. I have a Note 1, Wife has a note 2, my mom has a Note 2, and if you combined the amount of time we've all used the stylus, you'd have about 4 seconds worth of time between the three of us. It's always seemed to us as a really inconvenient way to do what you can do with your finger.
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It might be true that the average user doesn't use the SPen, but its also true that most people don't spend the time it takes to learn how to use it right. It's extraordinarily efficient to use with the gestures and handwriting-to- text. Just try using S Note with your finger. You'll get much better results with the S Pen haha.
Most think of drawling when it comes to the Note...but performance, screen size, and screen quality have always been the major attraction for all users with the Note.
The Note 3 is shaping up to be a monster of a device, and I find it unlikely that the major players will release anything close to it in the near future. HTC already made their move this year, Motorola doesn't seem to make high end phones anymore, and LG just doesn't have the mind share or reputation (although they may be a bit more deserving since the latest Optimus/Nexus combo release).
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Taylor_Swift said:
You want sexy? 3 words + 1 letter - Sony Xperia Z Ultra...
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Are you kidding? Plastic rectangles were hott almost 3 years ago.
Anyways, I think that 99.999% of the geeks I know wouldn't buy a Sony unless the other companies stopped making smart phones. The latest round is impressive. But I need a bit more encouragement that Sony has truly changed before I get anywhere near any of their products. The Xperia line ruined it for me.
Things are starting to look up for them, and LG though.
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Jamesyboy said:
Why on earth would you choose that? If the Note 3 has the Snapdragon 800, its going to be a beast.
It might be true that the average user doesn't use the SPen, but its also true that most people don't spend the time it takes to learn how to use it right. It's extraordinarily efficient to use with the gestures and handwriting-to- text. Just try using S Note with your finger. You'll get much better results with the S Pen haha.
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To be honest I wasn't familiar with the Ultra Z. That's sexy too, imo. And I couldn't care less about a snapdragon 800, or even a 600. I game on my device for maybe 30 seconds at a time -- that's what consoles and my HTPC are for -- so I really only need a processor capable of running baconreader and Chrome.
And, fair enough with the spen. I've never bothered learning what it could do, which is why I asked. Your reply almost makes me debate putting a samsung ROM back on just so I can play with it for once.
Anthony820 said:
To be honest I wasn't familiar with the Ultra Z. That's sexy too, imo. And I couldn't care less about a snapdragon 800, or even a 600. I game on my device for maybe 30 seconds at a time -- that's what consoles and my HTPC are for -- so I really only need a processor capable of running baconreader and Chrome.
And, fair enough with the spen. I've never bothered learning what it could do, which is why I asked. Your reply almost makes me debate putting a samsung ROM back on just so I can play with it for once.
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sounds like there is no need for you to upgrade other than getting an upgrade.I do most my gaming on a pc also. with faster SOC comes more capabilities. Windows xp is insanely fast on a P4 2gb of ram and a SSD. But you cant run dx11 on it. Like any upgrade .. you are going to be able to do stupid things faster. Sooner rather than later the smart phone will be your main processing device. You will just hook it up do all sorts of accessories(tv,gamepads,VR headsets etc etc) This just totally turned into a small rant. I by no means dont think you already now this. I'l move on now...Rant over.
Oh definitely not, and definitely to the rest. I don't need an upgrade due to need of faster stuff; however, marketing is a *****, and I know I'll bite the bullet sooner or later. To be honest, the only thing I'm truly wanting, when I take out the "the new stuff is flashy" factor, is better battery life. Sporting a 5200mah battery just to hang with the Wife's note 2 is ridiculous. It makes me wonder what one of those 9000mah batteries could do on her Note 2.
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Oh definitely not, and definitely to the rest. I don't need an upgrade due to need of faster stuff; however, marketing is a *****, and I know I'll bite the bullet sooner or later. To be honest, the only thing I'm truly wanting, when I take out the "the new stuff is flashy" factor, is better battery life. Sporting a 5200mah battery just to hang with the Wife's note 2 is ridiculous. It makes me wonder what one of those 9000mah batteries could do on her Note 2.
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HA. I feel your pain. I got i717 and the wife has the note 2. I'm constantly blabbling on about rom this, kernel that, about how awesome my phone is with carbon/uber. I usually only get out of her.. my phone is better.
Still a fan of the og screen ....I heard screens are very similar anyways
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To be honest I wasn't familiar with the Ultra Z. That's sexy too, imo. And I couldn't care less about a snapdragon 800, or even a 600. I game on my device for maybe 30 seconds at a time -- that's what consoles and my HTPC are for -- so I really only need a processor capable of running baconreader and Chrome.
And, fair enough with the spen. I've never bothered learning what it could do, which is why I asked. Your reply almost makes me debate putting a samsung ROM back on just so I can play with it for once.
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He he. I was a bit burnt by the time I posted that...spent all day fixing S3's. A small business client if mine likes to root his devices, and when he couldn't copy and paste due to a stock sprint software bug, he decided to wipe them. Finding instructions to do so on a random thread here. Needless to say, they wouldn't boot....because a wipe isn't what he thought it was.
And although the Ultra Z could be a bit more ergonomic...I suppose its just the sharp corners and the über-bad build quality, and update/support history of the Xperia line (x10 and pre-x10 days) that has haunted me and so many of my friends that makes me feel yucky even looking at it. I haven't gotten a chance to hold the Z Ultra, but assuming the build quality is good (it likely feels solid, judging from the dimensions and slimness alone), the only thing that dissuades me is...again, the corners, which makes the phone look like its a couple years old already. I'd really love to play around with one though.
At one point I was looking at their tablets, but again, square corners make your spankin' new device look like it's an AARP founding member, and aren't very forgiving on the hands.
I still maintain that the screen, and internals are what makes the Note a compelling device, but the Z Ultra isnt a slouch.
I do like the buttons....
I'll be sticking with my Note until I see what the Note 3 has to offer. I'll decide then between the Note 3 or S4 (is the Snapdragon 800 S4 coming to the US?), mainly because I know what I'm getting, and, I'm a fan of the over-saturated AMOLED displays.
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Galaxy Note 3 , will you buy it?

I'm patiently waiting for the c6806 but now that the galaxy note 3 is being announced and will be out early October , i might just jump ship and buy the note .Waiting for the LTE version is just painfully slow!
Build quality & the display is too small.
In the end the hardware pro's (ram, slightly higher clocking, cam) of the SGN3 are not compensating this for my requirements, as the performance of the XZU is still astonishing and i'm using my phone only for snapshots.
But your case is exactly showing the becalming situation Samsung has - people love to buy it anyway.
i almost bought the c6802 and live with the 3g connection but im pretty sure i'll be banging my head if the LTE version comes out,blaming myself that i should have waited .
LTE to me is the now technology and 3G is just not acceptable in my vocabulary .
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Build quality & the display is too small.
In the end the hardware pro's (ram, slightly higher clocking, cam) of the SGN3 are not compensating this for my requirements, as the performance of the XZU is still astonishing and i'm using my phone only for snapshots.
But your case is exactly showing the becalming situation Samsung has - people love to buy it anyway.
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100% agree with you in every aspects. I even if was waiting for the LTE version would never go for a Note 3. Those phone only can be compared on the performances. Size and build quality are really different.
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Absolutely not.
I've seen the conferences yesterday, and both Sony and Samsung haven't entertained me.
I mean, Sony has great products but tends to lay them out without any heart at all.
On the other end, Samsung has no innovation at all, but from their point of view it seems they're presenting the Holy Grail to the public year after year.
I have an S3, which is a great device, but on the right and on the bottom the "metal" bezel cut itself for no reason at all. It is 1 year old. And I paid FULL PRICE for this. And by full I mean that it costed me almost as much as a 6833.
I don't want Samsung to fill me with bs telling me the SPen is excellent, that the battery is interchangeable, that this, that that. I already know all that.
And i don't give a damn anymore.
ZU is progression, SW2 too, hell even the SBH52 impressed me more than the N3.
I'm gonna get on board with Sony, and whenever I'll see a guy with his Note 3 I'll say "Hey man, nice phone, I hope you're happy with what you got", not feeling envious, not feeling sorry for not buying it.
Because in the end, what YOU feel with your phone matters, not that extra 0.1ghz or that 1gb of ram.
Let's face it, about 1 out of 1000 Note3 or S4 users will root or even use their device to the fullest. The rest of them will simply feel happy that they can update their Facebook status saying 'I have a Note 3! Sweet! ", until they're not happy again when their friends buy something more powerful/stylish/popular.
I prefer being a 1 percenter, with a device that makes me smile, than being a 99 one, with the regret that I could have bought something more.
But hey, that's just my 2 cents.
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If you love development.. Samsung is really awful.. Sony is another level man
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If you love development.. Samsung is really awful.. Sony is another level man
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There are 2 face on that medal you know...
On one face, Samsung hasn't always been keen with developers, not releasing sources and all, BUT thousands of people buy those, and as a result a lot of developers choose the device they develop on based on popularity, and on the fact that developing there would be more of a challenge.
On the other face, Sony has always been open with the developer community, but their popularity has started to grow big not that long ago, so we might have on the ZU the same level of devs there are on the Z.
As a matter of fact, some of them already started (just take a look on the Android development section), and that is even before the LTE version launched.
Let's wait for UK, US, Germany, France, Italy, Spain etc. all have this device on their shelves, I have big expectations.
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well, after viewing the Note 3 "coming out" party yesterday, I decided I am not interested in it...
I had a note 1, and a Note 2, which was a major upgrade to the note 1.
Fantastic phone, and I was hoping the Note 3 would be a major "upgrade" as well; but, the only upgrades, CPU speed, 3 gigs of Ram, and 13 MP camera isnt going to make the experience on the Note 3 that much better than the note 2.
I've been watching the Xperia Z Ultra since it came out, and, it looks like a fantastic phone; I am a big guy, so the size doesnt scare me, but I am waiting to see which US carriers will be carrying it.
I have owned at least 50 cell phones in my life, but mysteriously, NONE of them have been Sony phones, but I think this will change in the next 30 days.
It doesnt seem like there is alot of development on this phone yet, but, since many note 2 owners feel similiar to me, I am certain that there will be a large groupl that will move to this phone, once some US carriers are announced.
The quality of this phone seems fantastic; not sure if no flash for the camera will affect picture quality, and, hopefully, easy root/bootloader unlocking is just around the corner, since the sound from that tiny speaker appears to be lousy as well, but nothing that ViperMod or a different kernel wont fix!
The main problem SGN2 had and SGN3 as per first hands on, pics and vids also seems to have is, that - even if it is already to small for me as an Note 2 user - they're not making proper use of the screen size with view to UI on stock ROM.
In the end the Note 2 was and is just a sized up Galaxy.
And 2nd market (custom roms) is not a criterion on this topic for me, because if i have to customize the the product from day 1 to meet my needs, then there's something wrong and i'll better wait for the right deal.
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well, after viewing the Note 3 "coming out" party yesterday, I decided I am not interested in it...
I had a note 1, and a Note 2, which was a major upgrade to the note 1.
Fantastic phone, and I was hoping the Note 3 would be a major "upgrade" as well; but, the only upgrades, CPU speed, 3 gigs of Ram, and 13 MP camera isnt going to make the experience on the Note 3 that much better than the note 2.
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Another user on another forum posted that maybe a real change will be seen when all S3s end their contract.
That's true for the S4 (they sold a lot less than what they were expecting), I was expecting it and I didn't fall for that.
That's true for the N3 too, as is a specced up S4 with SPen functions.
It will sell regardless of all this thoughts, but I could bet 1 out of 5 previous N2 owners will buy this N3, and the other 4 will scout around for a better choice or wait for the N4.
That's what I was planning to do skipping the iPhone 4 for the 5 (having the 3G), but Samsung stunned me with the S3 and I jumped ship.
I waited for a big change from the S3 to the S4, but I was ready to wait for the N3 this time.
Sony stunned me since they presented the ZU, I fell in love and that's it.
The only thing that would make me love even more this device would be having a stock-Google Play Edition.
That would be AWESOME.
Last but not least for the fact that we won't need implementation for the SPen, because the screen accept pens and pencils on its own...
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My friend and i were avid samsung users. We both had NOTE 1 then i sold it bought htc one x then sold it again and he too sold note and we both bought Note 2. Note 2 was a great device but design was my only grudge against it. Then in april i bought sony xperia z and now have htc one. And i swore that i wont fall in samsung bad design good performance trap. Currently trying to sell HTC ONE and i will buy Z ULTRA. and my friend too will buy z ultra no more shameSuck for us we had it enough
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nope
dont like amoled, never preffered samsung as a name brand, and i am happy with ZU
although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
corrado85 said:
nope
dont like amoled, never preffered samsung as a name brand, and i am happy with ZU
although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
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Agree.....
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although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This
My friend's S4 has no more than 250 free Mb all time...
You clean the memory, exit, return to manage the ram, it has even less memory left... :what:
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Leaving Samsung behind. Time to move on. I love my new z ultra.. build quality is awesome. Note 3 is great, but same old same old except for specs. Each their own.
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Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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Advertising, advertising, and advertising. Oh, I forgot about advertising.
They could sell a smart ring for your toe advertising it as the next companion for the summer for getting rid of fungus because it has a 5mpx camera that scans the pavement before you set your foot on it.
Everybody would simply love it.
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Nuwidol said:
Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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I actually really like the bezels on my Ultra. Helps to hold when watching a movie etc
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Hell yes...
More portable format, better camera, camera flash, SD card, removable battery, stylus built in, pressure sensitive wacom touchscreen, better hardware and software.
Basically, N3 is everything the Z wants to be...
FinancialWar said:
Hell yes...
More portable format, better camera, camera flash, SD card, removable battery, stylus built in, pressure sensitive wacom touchscreen, better hardware and software.
Basically, N3 is everything the Z wants to be...
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Yeah... remind me again why you're browsing the Z Ultra forum...?
You see, you're everything Samsung wants.
Go for it my friend, you deserve it.
Samsung wants to be the next Apple. Good for money at first, but look at the iPhone crowd now... oh yeah, these is no crowd.
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[Q] should I hold off for the ZU2

I am currently using the Xperia T and the Xperia Z ultra has really interested me, to the point where I am really considering purchasing it as you can now get it off amazon for just over £300. I have still to see what it is like in real life, but I feel that in the worst case I can use it as a tablet so I have a few questions:
Ideally I will go to a shop to see how big it really is, but would you say £300 is still worth it if I were just to use it as a tablet?
Should I hold off for the successor to this phone, if there is going to be one, because I cannot really see the price going much lower than £300 even if a new one does come out, and £300 is really the max I'd be willing to spend on a phone sooo the ZU2 is really out of the question, it'd just be a matter of how much the ZU would drop in price
How is the stability of the kitkat firmware, I have read some reports on the forums that its quite unstable, is this a major issue (I am pretty used to sony's bugs!)
thanks for the help
well... this device has a Snapdragon 800. It will be a while before new devices make the z ultra seem slow in a comparison. Even if you wait for the ZU2 its gonna be minimal differences. Like a Snapdragon 805 that is what? 20 % faster on a chart?
The ZU was advertised by SONY very early showing specs and pics and information on SONY's developer site. I have not seen any of this information about the Z ultra 2 yet..
I don't know when this Z ultra 2 is going to be released but at this date May 13th its not worth holding off and wait for that device..
after the price cut me too thinking about getting one and use it as a tablet, ditching my 2012 nexus 7
even tho im using note 3 as a phone
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Mwinggg said:
after the price cut me too thinking about getting one and use it as a tablet, ditching my 2012 nexus 7
even tho im using note 3 as a phone
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Once you have the ZU in your hands your Note 3 will turn obsolete. ZU is the perfect hybrid between a phone and tablet.
Looking at the Z Ultra as well
I currently have a Nexus 5 on at&t and i am having horrible issues with getting and keeping an LTE signal. Its a wide spread issues and the recent 4.4.3 update has not fixed it.
The Z Ultra GPE looks like a perfect phone/tablet hybrid and the specs look great. With the price drop its extremely affordable.
Anyone had problems with it fitting in your pocket or carrying it around? How are the LTE signals do you see it getting better/same/worse reception than other phones.
bsteiner36 said:
I currently have a Nexus 5 on at&t and i am having horrible issues with getting and keeping an LTE signal. Its a wide spread issues and the recent 4.4.3 update has not fixed it.
The Z Ultra GPE looks like a perfect phone/tablet hybrid and the specs look great. With the price drop its extremely affordable.
Anyone had problems with it fitting in your pocket or carrying it around? How are the LTE signals do you see it getting better/same/worse reception than other phones.
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- Nope, but I've had it since release day, so I'm just so used to its size now. Yes, you'll have some issues in the beginning, but you learn to live with it.
- Can't answer this one since the Ultra is my first LTE device (coming from the Galaxy Note), but I can't say I've noticed any issues with reception or whatnot. I live in a city though, so reception wouldn't have been an issues either way.
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Finally, a rival to the XZU - the Huawei Mediapad X2

http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-huawei-mediapad-x2
1920x1200 7" display
LTE
speculatrix said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-huawei-mediapad-x2
1920x1200 7" display
LTE
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This is lovely; I like it a lot.I wonder what the price will be though for each version?
Very interesting indeed!
I decided the Z3 tablet is a bit much for me as a phone but this one could be the one if it gets any dev behind it and a good screen of course.
Agreed about whether a hacker community forms around it.
Before I buy a device, I check XDA and Modaco to see whether anyone else is working on it.
Hmmm, the SoC used has a Mali GPU, but I don't know anything about the CPU
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Mediapad X2 boasts an "ultra" octa-core, 64-bit Kirin 930 chipset clocked in at 2.0Ghz
The development for Huawei are pathetic at best.. I have ascend mate 1 & 2. Benchmarks are ok but real life use is pretty laggy. I gave up on the company. Look at their flagship, the mate 7. It's out for a while but there's still no custom rom if I am not wrong..
For me there is more to XZU than just the screen size, be it the extra sensitivity or the looks, on these grounds we should rather wait for the real successor sony is supposedly working on
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For me there is more to XZU than just the screen size, be it the extra sensitivity or the looks, on these grounds we should rather wait for the real successor sony is supposedly working on
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Agree:good:
I am open to other manufacturers working on 7-8 inch devices but in order to be a viable replacement, some things are necessary:
1. Snapdragon 810 or 820
2. 3-4 GB RAM
3. 32-128 GB internal storage
4. MicroSDXC slot
5. 6.5-8 inch display with 2K resolution or higher
6. Vanilla Android or a lightly skinned version (Sony or Motorola style)
7. Developer friendliness with decent ROM support
8. Adequate camera (12 MP is perfectly fine)
9. Support for an external camera module (DSC-QX10 et al)
It would be great with a keyboard flipcover accessory as well.
A device without microSD slot and a lack of ROMs would fail to replace the Ultra in a proper way. The same goes for heavily skinned Android implementations or a lack of hardware standardization (a lot of different ROM incompatible versions).
The Huawei MediaPad X2 could be a "replacement" provided decent ROM support and similar LTE bands as the Ultra but I am not sure about those things.
I am quite sure that a viable "replacement" to the Ultra will be either a Sony device or something from a Chinese manufacturer. I still hope for an Oppo or Xiaomi since I think it is those two companies that would be able to actually tick the boxes properly if Sony would let us down with a Z4 Ultra. Similar hardware as the new Z4 Tablet would be great.
For me it's about manageability and think my Zu is just about manageable in the hand. I am aware others see it as a bit of a freak when they consider what's acceptable as their phone/daily driver but I like that it blurs the line of whats acceptable as a phone or tablet and I like that for me it's both...The Zu is my phone when I need to make calls text etc add to that the convenience of probably the best Web browsing experience on any device I have ever used with phone capability, decent battery, powerful innards, then let me at it-i say!!
Let the naysayers nay.
However the Huawei pad while spec wise is great it just seems to push that boundary of what I would consider manageable as a Phone.
I enjoy the tall slender ergonomics of the Zu but the Huawei just looks too wide and tablet-y for what I would consider manageable...I do like the smaller bezels tho
Less than a quarter inch taller and half inch wider, has an sd slot and the processor is supposed to be 16 nm die size similar to Apple.A9 chip.
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The development for Huawei are pathetic at best. I gave up on the company.
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It's all because it's ''made in China'' .
Con500 said:
For me it's about manageability and think my Zu is just about manageable in the hand. I am aware others see it as a bit of a freak
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Lol, you just reminded me. Several days back I was ordering a Chicken Twister Meal from some fast food restaurant called SFC (Southern Fried Chicken) .
Anyway I placed my order and took a seat since it needed time to prepare. Wife calls and I answer and we start chatting...
I noticed the two Filipino women who took my order were both whispering to each other whilst looking at me and were laughing...
Needless to say I know exactly why they were laughing. They saw me speaking on such a huge phone which wasn't normal for them
and it really made them laugh...
I didn't give a $hit and continued. Other times whilst on the phone, I've had looks/hard stares and in some cases women approach me and ask what phone I have, model and size. There have been many stares especially when taking the phone out my pocket whilst on the train. Half the cabin are staring wondering what phone you have and shocked at it's huge size.
When people do give funny looks I couldn't care less especially because of another thing I saw. On several occasions, I've even seen people talking on 8-10" tablets!!! They were not using earphones, the phone was on their ear, now that looks a lot funnier than my 6.4" Xperia Z Ultra...
Another candidate
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03/mwc-2015-hands-ztes-high-end-phablet-nubia-x6.html
Personally prefer how the x2 look, but 2015 is turning out to be a promising year for big phablet lover
Hilmhaz said:
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03/mwc-2015-hands-ztes-high-end-phablet-nubia-x6.html
Personally prefer how the x2 look, but 2015 is turning out to be a promising year for big phablet lover
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Indeed I prefer the x2 as well. I mean, if I am moving from the Ultra I rather do it to a bigger phone but not so sure about the chipset of the x2. I wish it was the Snapdragon 810.
Also, on the ZTE, well, it is the same size as my Ultra so the only way for me to upgrade would be if it was some better looking screen (darker blacks etc) and replaceable batteries. I guess I am happy enough with the Ultra that I can be picky
I don't trust these chinese manufactures.
It will be stuck on the same Android Version for ages, with next to no development.
I have had both the Huawei Ascend Mate7 with an Octa Core Kirin 925 @1.8GHz and the Huawei MediaPad X1 with a Quad Core VR91 @1.6GHz.
The X1 was just too slow and laggy but other than that it was a great device. It looks very nice and build quality was comparable to an iPhone 5 or 6. Of course it's big but I used it as a phone and had no issues with it.
The Mate7 was too small for my taste but performance wise I had no issues. It was comparable to the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 in that regard.
The MediaPad X2 uses a Kirin 930 @2.0GHz and has Lollipop so I have no doubt it will not be a laggy device.
With regard to ROMs, if you install another launcher the Huawei software is bearable. It's not like TouchWiz. I am looking forward to getting the X2 and if it can be rooted I think I will be satisfied. Hopefully Huawei will come out with a proper European version without the Chinese stuff on it.
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http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03/mwc-2015-hands-ztes-high-end-phablet-nubia-x6.html
Personally prefer how the x2 look, but 2015 is turning out to be a promising year for big phablet lover
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Have been tracking this device (x6 with 3GB RAM & 128gb) at least for the past 6-7 months as I was getting restless for new phone (I change phones every 3 months). Since there was no release date on sight, I sold my XZU, bought Lumia 1520 but found it small for my taste (But loved Windows OS; one for future if they launch with 6.2+ screen size) so sold it off after 1 month and re bought XZU again!
Have been tracking this phone in below website where the Customer care is promising launch dates (3GB+128gb) but nothing has been done in almost 6 months.
http://www.nubiamobileshop.com/nubi...pdragon-801-2gb-32gb-13-0mp-camera-white.html
However, if it launches for around $400 (which is not going to happen as 2gb version is around $450 and 3gb one will around $700), I would definitely look into it as Mediapad X2 looks too wide and will be difficult to hold.
Definitely interested in this device, but I wonder what the price will be. Hard to compete with the Ultra since it can be had for less than 300.
ZTE Nubia X6
Snapdragon 801
6,44" fullhd display
3 gb ram
32 / 64 / 128 gb
lte, bluetooth 4.0, nfc, wi-fi abgn, infrared
4500 mah battery
Hilmhaz said:
2015 is turning out to be a promising year for big phablet lover
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What planet are you living on... ? (for clarification phablet means AT LEAST 6in. Or bigger...)

[Rumors] finally some "real" rumors about the Z5 Ultra

As the title mentions rumors about the succesor for our ultra. I'm really anticipating on a succesor, i use my ultra now for 2 years. At this moment there is for me still no proper replacement on the market. If the rumors are true, i've found mine replacement
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/83269/20150910/sony-xperia-z5-ultra-with-snapdragon-820-chip-4k-display-23mp-camera-coming-march-2016.htm
Didn't read anything yet about a flash, but i can't imagine that they make such a monumental mistake again.
i can wait all day till they release Z5 ultra
I also have had this phone for 2 years now, and before that I use to upgrade my phones every 6-9months.. now I can't get over this phone
Article's description is too good to be true... The specs are awesome... Lets pray they release the real successor for our device!
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Rumour like this have been spread all over the years since the Ultra came out. Most of em are click baits for more traffic to their websites or some people's imagination to 'satisfy' themselves since it is likely that the Ultra is Sony's first and last attempt of making a true phablet.
I personally think we won't see another 6.4 inch until the stylus game is making a comeback.
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corrado85 said:
i can wait all day till they release Z5 ultra
I also have had this phone for 2 years now, and before that I use to upgrade my phones every 6-9months.. now I can't get over this phone [emoji14]
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That's EXACTLY what I'm experiencing.
Galaxy S6, Note 5, Nexus 6, LG G4, Z5, HTC ONE, all fantastic performers, but....... Not a single one could convince me to leave the Ultra.
I've actually been tempted to buy another one just in case... [emoji16]
I desperately hope that Sony will not leave us hanging longer, 2.5 years are enough.
And as I said before, the Ultra was presented as a TOP performer, first with SD800, and reviewed by all as a beast, as a nerd wet dream, regardless of the flaws (big, awful camera, no flash etc).
They couldn't present it now with the SD810, it wasn't "one of a kind".
I just hope they're waiting the new processor and MWC to unveil the next gen of this beast.
I'm currently rocking a GPe based rom (Hybrid by Uncle Lucifer), and NOTHING is smoother.
Just imagine what could possibly be with SD820 and 4GB ram... [emoji33]
I personally don't care about the camera. If it's there, good, if it's a 13mpx, well that's enough for me.
I want a powerful device with a superb screen, and if they can make it smaller with the same 6.44 screen, good, if they can't and it's thicker with more battery, good, if they can't do that either and make it exactly the same phone with upgraded internals, I'm good with that too. [emoji16]
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fastest83 said:
That's EXACTLY what I'm experiencing.
Galaxy S6, Note 5, Nexus 6, LG G4, Z5, HTC ONE, all fantastic performers, but....... Not a single one could convince me to leave the Ultra.
I've actually been tempted to buy another one just in case... [emoji16]
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You just described my thought process :laugh: I've read all the reviews, and always come to the same conclusion. All the devices feel as i have to make to many compromises. And also i was thinking to buy a second one in case of something worse happened with the one i'm using.
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You just described my thought process [emoji23] I've read all the reviews, and always come to the same conclusion. All the devices feel as i have to make to many compromises. And also i was thinking to buy a second one in case of something worse happened with the one i'm using.
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I remember everybody going on laughing at how big of a phone it is, I can't even begin to describe the mockery at work once I got it; then everybody tried it, and their freaking mouths went shut, and then open wide at how beautiful of a device it is.
It's big, yeah we get it, but it's slim, elegant, it makes you go "wow" once you play with it and also go "meh" every time you try something else.
I get that people want 5.5 screens, no bezels, something you can use with one hand, cameras that can spot an hair on a fly at 5 meters away, but those guys are not me.
SD820 might be the way for Sony to show once again they can pull off a trick with a device so powerful and so beautiful that you can't even begin to think to go somewhere else.
No matter what other OEMs have to offer.
No matter what other people say.
They should have a survey on Ultra owners, I bet that 90% of us would never change OEM if Sony guarantees a new Ultra every 2 years.
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