[Q] should I hold off for the ZU2 - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

I am currently using the Xperia T and the Xperia Z ultra has really interested me, to the point where I am really considering purchasing it as you can now get it off amazon for just over £300. I have still to see what it is like in real life, but I feel that in the worst case I can use it as a tablet so I have a few questions:
Ideally I will go to a shop to see how big it really is, but would you say £300 is still worth it if I were just to use it as a tablet?
Should I hold off for the successor to this phone, if there is going to be one, because I cannot really see the price going much lower than £300 even if a new one does come out, and £300 is really the max I'd be willing to spend on a phone sooo the ZU2 is really out of the question, it'd just be a matter of how much the ZU would drop in price
How is the stability of the kitkat firmware, I have read some reports on the forums that its quite unstable, is this a major issue (I am pretty used to sony's bugs!)
thanks for the help

well... this device has a Snapdragon 800. It will be a while before new devices make the z ultra seem slow in a comparison. Even if you wait for the ZU2 its gonna be minimal differences. Like a Snapdragon 805 that is what? 20 % faster on a chart?
The ZU was advertised by SONY very early showing specs and pics and information on SONY's developer site. I have not seen any of this information about the Z ultra 2 yet..
I don't know when this Z ultra 2 is going to be released but at this date May 13th its not worth holding off and wait for that device..

after the price cut me too thinking about getting one and use it as a tablet, ditching my 2012 nexus 7
even tho im using note 3 as a phone
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Mwinggg said:
after the price cut me too thinking about getting one and use it as a tablet, ditching my 2012 nexus 7
even tho im using note 3 as a phone
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Once you have the ZU in your hands your Note 3 will turn obsolete. ZU is the perfect hybrid between a phone and tablet.

Looking at the Z Ultra as well
I currently have a Nexus 5 on at&t and i am having horrible issues with getting and keeping an LTE signal. Its a wide spread issues and the recent 4.4.3 update has not fixed it.
The Z Ultra GPE looks like a perfect phone/tablet hybrid and the specs look great. With the price drop its extremely affordable.
Anyone had problems with it fitting in your pocket or carrying it around? How are the LTE signals do you see it getting better/same/worse reception than other phones.

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I currently have a Nexus 5 on at&t and i am having horrible issues with getting and keeping an LTE signal. Its a wide spread issues and the recent 4.4.3 update has not fixed it.
The Z Ultra GPE looks like a perfect phone/tablet hybrid and the specs look great. With the price drop its extremely affordable.
Anyone had problems with it fitting in your pocket or carrying it around? How are the LTE signals do you see it getting better/same/worse reception than other phones.
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- Nope, but I've had it since release day, so I'm just so used to its size now. Yes, you'll have some issues in the beginning, but you learn to live with it.
- Can't answer this one since the Ultra is my first LTE device (coming from the Galaxy Note), but I can't say I've noticed any issues with reception or whatnot. I live in a city though, so reception wouldn't have been an issues either way.
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Z Ultra Life Expectancy

Ok, Damn it. This is really starting to become an expensive habit!
Do you plan on keeping your Xperia Z Ultra for a full 12 months?
I've been enjoying this phone, so far so good! Every year I tell myself "this time I'm gonna stick with this one for at least a year" . However it just doesn't seem to workout that way. 2 years with one device seems impossible now, so I'm targeting a full year! I think I'll replace this ZU with another Xperia device if the successor is regal!
Had my Note 1 for a full 3 years before upgrading to the Ultra. Briefly considered the Note 2, but was not interested, so took the Note 8 as a companion, and sold that in 3 months together with the Note 1 to fund for the Ultra, since the Note 3 was not screen-sized to my liking
Perhaps 2 years, seeing the missus is giving me the evil eye (the Note 1 was a gift from her!)
I had around 4 phones last 3 years. But I think i will keep the Ultra for at least 2 years. It is big enough, fast enough, has storage enough. There is nothing i want more. I use the samsung C pen at the side of the pool. It works perfect for me.
I kept my original HTC Evo 4G for a little over three years, and that was back during the period in which each new round of flagship phones had significantly better specs than the last. Now that hardware differentiation is slowing down, I don't think it will be any problem for me to keep the Z Ultra for a full two years. The only thing that might make it difficult for me would be a significantly improved Z Ultra 2.
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This is the second device for me this year. Which is about average. I do reviews of products and then make a few videos about them, and then usually sell them after 3/4 months.
But as for the Ultra... I think I can see me using it until the next ultra comes out.. (or something equally as beautiful but with a better camera)
This device has been the best all round smartphone I've had, with a better camera it would have been perfect!! so... looking forward to the Ultra 2...
In the last three years I have had six devices..I think. I still use my One X as my alarm and toilet mp3 player while taking a dump. My plan for my Z Ultra is two years starting November 7th but I pretty much already know that I will buy a blackberry phone or a smaller device to use along with my ZU but not completely replacing it.
I used to buy new phones every 3 to 4 months, but iOS and Android changed that. I had my Note for two years, but that was only because I couldn't find a good replacement (the Note 2 wasn't a big enough upgrade), but the Ultra is, so I'll keep it at least for a year, and we'll see if anything interesting pops up after that.
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I still use my One X as my alarm and toilet mp3 player while taking a dump.
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Superuser, you are an artist who paints with words.
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I've generally changed phones about every two to three weeks. Which.. Isn't a good thing I don't think lol I always either trade them or sell them and use that money to buy another. In this case though, I feel like I've finally hit a device that is unique enough that nothing else would be able to replace in quite the same way. The screen real estate on this isn't just like using a Note.. The Note really just feels like a blown-up phone, and I hate that. The UI on tablet/phones usually just stretches everything out instead of properly using the 1080p resolution, which is something that this phone's UI does well, even down to the soft keys. So, I'm hoping that I can keep this phone at least for half a year before moving on to the next phone.. Based on the fact that it is basically an excuse for me to be able to carry a tablet around and call it a "phone."
But yeah, my goal is six months.. lol but that would be nothing short of a miracle. As of now though I do want to sell this C6802 and buy myself a C6833 with some accidental insurance from Sony. Then keep that. But, for the time being, extremely happy with this.
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For me, I wish I can stay with my Z Ultra for at least 6 months. I changed phone regularly. The last phone that I've used more than 6 months is Note 2. Subsequently I used Nexus 4 for a month and Xperia Z for 2 months plus. I think Z Ultra is an all rounded device, the issue is just the so so camera. Not so interested on other popular flagships like Note 3 and G2 so I think I'll continue using Z Ultra for some while.
jeremy.chan said:
Had my Note 1 for a full 3 years before upgrading to the Ultra. Briefly considered the Note 2, but was not interested, so took the Note 8 as a companion, and sold that in 3 months together with the Note 1 to fund for the Ultra, since the Note 3 was not screen-sized to my liking
Perhaps 2 years, seeing the missus is giving me the evil eye (the Note 1 was a gift from her!)
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The note 1 was only released in 2011
I had my note since release (around two years) and it lasted well as the note 3 wasn't really much of an upgrade. I can't see the z ultra lasting as long though as it's not as well roinded a device particularly the poor camera, no flash led and the sealed in battery.
John
I've had my my Note 2 for just 7 mos, Nexus 4 for 6 mos, Nexus 7 for 4 mos. Sold all of 'em due to uncontrolled circumstances, but I'm planning to keep my XZU for as long as I can. I think I'm very much satisfied with it. But I'm also planning on getting a backup phone, Maybe a Z1 or just an SP. Definitely, not going back to Samsung.
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Definitely, not going back to Samsung.
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Indeed. I've used Samsung for most of my other smartphones, but this region locking and authentication chips for accessories is just a pure cash grab at the cost of convenience for the consumer.
This is something that we should never support and should let samsung know with our wallets.
I'm hoping to keep this until the next Ultra is about to come out and I'll sell this and get something else, maybe a Note 3 or some oddball "phablet" and then sell that to get the Ultra 2. I haven't kept a phone for longer than a year since I started getting smartphones, and recently it's been less than that.
I love this phone, but have to admit I'm interested by the Lumia 1520 as it's the first high end windows phone and I'd love to see what it's like...
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I'm interested in what Sony does with this phone. It hasn't sold well.
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For me, I wish I can stay with my Z Ultra for at least 6 months. I changed phone regularly. The last phone that I've used more than 6 months is Note 2. Subsequently I used Nexus 4 for a month and Xperia Z for 2 months plus. I think Z Ultra is an all rounded device, the issue is just the so so camera. Not so interested on other popular flagships like Note 3 and G2 so I think I'll continue using Z Ultra for some while.
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Yea I couldn't get into the plastic/plastic design. I really never liked the galaxy design after the SGS2. I like the more squared design of the GS4 & Note 3, but it Sony got this design perfect! They dropped the ball in a few areas, but this screen is so large I think it's the saving grace. I believe this will keep me content as 6.4 will probably be matched by few!
It's Difficult to downgrade on screen size, I'm sure all of us considered Z1 at some point. But after a 5.5" note, I couldn't imagine using a 5.0" Z1 including on-screen buttons.... Noooo Wayyy....
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It's Difficult to downgrade on screen size, I'm sure all of us considered Z1 at some point. But after a 5.5" note, I couldn't imagine using a 5.0" Z1 including on-screen buttons.... Noooo Wayyy....
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This sums all my thoughts. Definitely not going to have a smaller screen like... ever.
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fastest83 said:
This sums all my thoughts. Definitely not going to have a smaller screen like... ever.
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Same here :highfive:
fastest83 said:
This sums all my thoughts. Definitely not going to have a smaller screen like... ever.
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Same here, though I'd like a smaller device to use as my main phone and carry both. I'm hoping for a Nexus 5 but if we can't afford it I'll get a used Nexus 4 to replace the one my wife is borrowing from me.

[Q] Is the Z ultra still worth buying? Did you guys get used to the size?

Hey guys,
so I've been eyeballing with the Z ultra since last year september or something. It was around the time my Note 2 broke and I needed a new phone.
However a few months after it was released the price was just too high (~600€) for me to afford - . So I went with the Nexus5 which was released for only 350 Euros and I really needed a phone back then. Now the ZU is half the price (300€). Interesting price development which really implies that this phone realls isnt for everyone.
so I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about daily usage of the phone - mostly in terms of Size. When sitting somewhere, standing and stuff, I dont care about the size but when moving around I'm afraid it would get impractical.
Does it fit in your trouser-poket at all?
Or you guys mostly put it in the pocket of the Jacket?
Do you always have to wear a small bag to go out with the phone?
How do you carry it when its hot? (Maybe someone who bought it in a hot place since it was released in the fall)
On the other hand, there is the Note 3, which is currently available for 360€ (weekend offer, normally 450€). So I'm really strugglin with the choice of which device to get. If the ZU size is really dealable i'd definitely prefer it over the N3. I would really appreciate it if you could share your experience.
(I know there have been rumors, whether there's gonna be a Z2 Ultra or not but looking at the price (which would be like 700 on release) I don't think I that the new Z2U would matter to me until 2015.)
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Hey guys,
so I've been eyeballing with the Z ultra since last year september or something. It was around the time my Note 2 broke and I needed a new phone.
However a few months after it was released the price was just too high (~600€) for me to afford - . So I went with the Nexus5 which was released for only 350 Euros and I really needed a phone back then. Now the ZU is half the price (300€). Interesting price development which really implies that this phone realls isnt for everyone.
so I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about daily usage of the phone - mostly in terms of Size. When sitting somewhere, standing and stuff, I dont care about the size but when moving around I'm afraid it would get impractical.
Does it fit in your trouser-poket at all?
Or you guys mostly put it in the pocket of the Jacket?
Do you always have to wear a small bag to go out with the phone?
How do you carry it when its hot? (Maybe someone who bought it in a hot place since it was released in the fall)
On the other hand, there is the Note 3, which is currently available for 360€ (weekend offer, normally 450€). So I'm really strugglin with the choice of which device to get. If the ZU size is really dealable i'd definitely prefer it over the N3. I would really appreciate it if you could share your experience.
(I know there have been rumors, whether there's gonna be a Z2 Ultra or not but looking at the price (which would be like 700 on release) I don't think I that the new Z2U would matter to me until 2015.)
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So many posts like yours. Please search? But anyway, here's my answer. Yes it is still worth to buy. The development curve has been reaching plateau for a while so it will still be fast for 1-2years to the future. As for carrying i just bring it into my chest pocket and no damn given..
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Phone is definitely big but easily pocketable in all but the slimmest of pants. Personally i sold mine partly because of the size. After three months of ownership i just wanted something much smaller to move around with.
But to answer ur question it is still one of the most powerful out there. Even the z2ultra i suspect will be a minor spec bump over the original much like the z2 is over the z1. I say go for it.
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So many posts like yours. Please search? But anyway, here's my answer. Yes it is still worth to buy. The development curve has been reaching plateau for a while so it will still be fast for 1-2years to the future. As for carrying i just bring it into my chest pocket and no damn given..
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I'm sorry, I wasnt sure what to search for, so I went for the keyword "pocket" and only found about how much people had no trouble having it in their pocket.
However I would rather like to know about what kind of pockets you use. Does it always have to be the Jacket? What about when wearing shorts?
How about the situation when you're in the office and wanna go get some coffee and dont need your jacket or bag?
Thanks for the answer.
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Phone is definitely big but easily pocketable in all but the slimmest of pants. Personally i sold mine partly because of the size. After three months of ownership i just wanted something much smaller to move around with.
But to answer ur question it is still one of the most powerful out there. Even the z2ultra i suspect will be a minor spec bump over the original much like the z2 is over the z1. I say go for it.
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Thank you for your answer.
So you're saying it fits but it makes you feel uncomfortable when moving around with it in your (trouser)pocket?
Just to put it plain and simple if you want to buy the Z Ultra because of how comfortable it fits in your pocket then I suggest you move on.
Its like saying you wanna buy a Ferrari but but are afraid that it might be too fast.
depends...
I live in a tropical island where the only two types of weather we get is hot and scorching. As such clothing is light the majority if the time. as such the only real option is a pants pocket which fits comfortably but you still know its there with every step. Honestly its not as bad as I may be making it sound but its really up to personal preference. If possible find someone you know who has one and see how it feels to you.
Personally after owning many phones of varying sizes I've found that my preference is an smaller phone (my Lumia 820 is the perfect size) and now I have a larger tablet for media consumption and general use. Usage scenario preferences vary from person to person. The only real way to know what is best for you is to try them all. Its a bit of a hassle and maybe a little expensive but its the foolproof way.
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After using the Z ultra for a couple weeks it doesn't really seem big anymore. I could even go a little bigger.
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After using the Z ultra for a couple weeks it doesn't really seem big anymore. I could even go a little bigger.
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Had it since December, and much the same- I could stand going up to 6.5" or even a 7" screen as a phablet.
Only thing I might ever switch to is those Asus Padfones (Or Phonepads? Can't remember which one is which). Those ones that let you stick their phone into a tablet. Sounds nice and the best of both worlds, but the only one that's come up into the US is a 7" one, which just isn't worth the effort (Plus, I don't know if they work with custom firmware, so...).
had in when first time arrive on my county with cost almost 570 Euro, till now im still proud with my ZU, its never let me down.
check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2666638
The ZU is still very relevant. It has the S800, 2GB RAM a 1080p display and other high-end specifications. It seems like the mobile world has plateaued lately, and there are really no "must have" features coming up, as far as I'm concerned. The Snapdragon 801 and 805 are the new SoCs, but they are only marginally better than the 800, so there's really no reason to upgrade. QHD screens? Sure, if you want to get poor battery life. The pixels are rising, but the battery capacity is not.
Upcoming devices:
- Galaxy S5: 2014 ugliest phone (IMO) and it looks like Samsung is checking how many stupid people are out there.
- The New HTC One (M8): Not officially announced yet, but we've pretty much seen the whole thing already, including in a 14 minute German video review yesterday. Nothing special.
Xperia Z2: Looks really nice, but not worth it if you're currently owning an S800 device.
Xperia Z2 Ultra(?): Will probably be announced this summer like last year. Will probably run the 801, 3GB RAM and an updated design. Most people, including me, will probably want it, but it's not worth it. It's like when I had the Galaxy Note and the Note 2 arrived. It wasn't worth the upgrade.
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The XZU C6833 is one of my favorite phablet phones on 2013 and 2014.
Still worth the purchase. Plus im having fun with it when I see a tiny iphone. Haha I'd like to tease my girlfriend but she does used my device more now than her iphone. The text and viewing content has been excellent
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The phone is indeed pocket-able even in the tightest of pants if your a guy, most female pants have much shallower pockets and thus my sister isnt able to fit my phone into her pockets.
The thing is that although it fits sitting becomes cumbersome as the pants constrict the phone and pushes it towards your leg so i often have it out when i know im going to sit for long periods of time. Also it is a pain when you have to take it out of your pockets under your jacket.
In insanely hot climates, like 35 degrees C the phone is also uncomfortable...especially if you sweat.
In comparison to the n3, i would say that the ZU has a nicer build, and also a larger screen. LCD is an added bonus if you prefer it over amoled. Plus its also water resistant which makes it useful when rainy/when bathing. Also, the lack of touch-wiz is also a bonus
But the n3 has (in my opinion) a more optimized OS for a larger screen such as multiwindow (yes i realize sony has tiny apps but its just not the same), better speakers, and a better camera. Plus a smaller amoled screen.
If the waterproof-ness and larger screen appeal more to you i would suggest the ZU, otherwise i myself would've chosen the note 3 as amoled is my preferred screen tech. Hope this helps...
Have had the phone for a few months, and pretty much doubt I'll go with anything with a smaller screen in the future. If the ZU2 ends up being only a minor upgrade as I and some others are expecting, I'll probably wait for the ZU3...saves me shelling out $$$ everyone 6-12 months
Not the perfect phone, but the only one out with most of what I was after in a handset.
Its summer all year round in my country and the phone is anytime cooler than the weather lol.
I carry the phone in my sling bag so I go for the biggest screen that's available for me.
Performance and spec for the ZU will last another 2 years before it becomes obselete so definitely worth getting for the price now. I remembered getting the ZU on day one and it costs about USD 900.
Some other upcoming models in the 5.5 -7 inch region you can consider might be
Oppo Find 7 (5.5 inch 2k display, Snapdragon 801, 3GB, 32GB )
Huawei MediaPad X1 LTE (7inch 1,920 x 1,200 LTPS, Arms Cortex A9 Soc, 2GB, 16GB)
Vivo Xplay 3S (6 inch 2k display, Snapdragon 800, 3GB, 32GB)
I think that it is safe to say that the Z Ultra is by far the best product in the 6" screen-size range (let's face it, the alternatives are not even close in terms of quality...). So, if screen size is a factor for you as it is for many of us, go for it, you will not regret this.
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****, I just across an announcement on ZTE Nubia X6 just now. The spec is amazing
6.4inch FHD
Snapdragon 801
3gb ram
128gb internal
Dual sim support 3g and LTE
4000mh battery
13mp camera
This is truly a ZU contender.
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This is truly a ZU contender.
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Sure, if you believe that a Lada with 600 HP is as good as an AMG.
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Sure, if you believe that a Lada with 600 HP is as good as an AMG.
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I get what you mean but there's always a struggle between quality and spec. The lada will cross the finish line first that's what some people go for.
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I get what you mean but there's always a struggle between quality and spec. The lada will cross the finish line first that's what some people go for.
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Like Sony said, difference is in detail, Sony detail

Is an Ultra Z still applicable in 2014?

Hello
I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as the Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes the price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with just AUD350 the phone has become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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I'm thinking the same as yourself, as it is becoming more affordable here in the US as well.
Seen it as inexpensive as $250, either new or gently used.
Only negative is no LED for flash, which means no light for emergency use.
I'm looking for an inexpensive LTE mobile phone, this MIGHT BE IT.
Another negative; no removable battery.
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If you have no real use for a camera, then yes this phone is still a beast.
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”screen flashlight ” in the Google play store works pretty well on our Z ultra.
I've had mine for about a year now, and it's still a very powerful device. You won't have any issues with running apps and games. Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
Screen is still very good, battery life is (still) good, camera is not great, and performance is top notch. It was worth it to me when I paid $1000 for it a year ago, and it's definitely worth it now.
Check out the reviews and stuff on YouTube or something if you're still not sure.
I was afraid at first i thought it will be too big. But now i can imagine myself having smaller Screen even samsung Note seems small now, Too small.
As it has been said, if don't care for the Camera much Z Ultra is the Best.
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Hello
I have been interested in an Ultra Z since the first day it's launched but never ended up having one due to a main reason. With a huge screen on the device it is every graphic designer's dream to be able to draw naturally like paper and pencil. Unfortunately it doesn't work as well as Galaxy Note series.
Now that I have gotten myself a Galaxy Note Pro, my quest in searching for a device that allows natural handwriting and drawing is now over. Yet the Ultra Z remains a attractive device and the price has dropped significantly. I think the lack of purchase has causes it to price drop faster than many other flagship phones from last year. Nevertheless with AUD350 the phone has just become even more attractive.
I am just wondering if you Ultra Z users think if it is a sane decision to buy a phone that is a year old now? Are there now better alternatives out there with a similar screen size? Also has Sony mentioned if the phone is reaching its end of life soon (including Google Play Edition)?
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Depends on how you look at it. If performance is the metric, you won't be disappointed. if you use camera extensively, well look elsewhere. and the last one, the battery life. It's quite good but if you compare with devices nowadays, there are better alternative. I'd say wait for the Z3X (if ever) in about a month. If it doesn't come up, then i can imagine the Z Ultra will be cheaper along the way.
Thank you all for your inputs!
I personally do not use mobile cameras for artistic purposes. I already have a Dslr so the camera is only for note-taking or public transport schedule. I think I just want a phone that is slightly faster than my HTC M7. It's true that there are better performers out there since this is a year old phone but any faster CPU than a Z Ultra has little to do with my uses.
Also there isn't a mobile phone at the moment that is as massive as this. I love the idea that I could read books with it in my bed. The Galaxy Note Pro is too heavy to hold in the hand for a long period of time.
The only bummer is the speaker. I have been spoiled by the M7's speakers for a year plus, very little devices top its superb sound quality. It will be the only downgrade for me should I go for this phone.
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Keep in mind that we also have the Google Play Edition of the Ultra, and it will receive Android L fairly quickly after release, and we'll be able to port it to our model.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
18 months supposedly. The Z Ultra should receive L, but the Z3 and Z2 should get it first. I would guess at least a few months or more after L is released.
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I'm not so sure that the GPe version will receive Android L before the Xperia version would.
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I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
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E90 Commie said:
I am pretty sure that the GPe will get L quickly since one of the key reasons for the program is almost Nexus updates. Google will push the L to Sony soon after official release.
All GPe devices should have L shortly after the Nexus series and I haven't seen any indication to the contrary.
It is also important to remember that Ultra GPe is vanilla Android with just the EQ added (Sony ClearAudio) and otherwise identical to a Nexus.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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Since the Ultra's release, Sony has already pushed out a few prompt updates for it. I personally do not think this device is any type of priority for them. We will be damn lucky to get another update imo, and after we do, I wouldnt expect any more.
If it was Google handling the updates, things might be different, but this is a two generation old Sony device, not a Nexus. It is very close to EOL.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
However Ultra hasn't been selling as well as they'd like they have probably even given up on releasing a successor.
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That'd suck if it's not getting L. HTC has confirmed even the M7 which was released before Ultra will get L
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Im sure it will get L, but I personally don't think we should expect more.
Recently, got a Z Ultra (from a Mega 6.3). Don't regret it for the most part. Screen isn't the brightest in direct sunlight (not that the mega was that much better), Camera quality isn't as good as my mega imo, sound is lower (that my mega) I'm assuming because of the waterproofing, and kinda a fingerprint magnet. Other than that no complaints.
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Is this legit? How long does a flagship Xperia unit has before it reaches EOL?
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Normally 18 months?. I would think the GPe will get L before the Sony ZU. it was months before we got 4.4, although we did get 4.4.4 very fast
Just bought a second hand for AU$300. This shady guy sold me one with overheat issue. The phone isn't even very hot but it just freezes on me and stuck in boot loop.
BOOT LOOPS, My Favorite Breakfast Cereal!
The reason may well be because of the fact the BEAST is having one of America's favorite breakfast cereals...Boot Loops! After several minutes of this heat is generated in the upper left corner around the camera area. Liken it to running around a track numerous times - it takes a toll on it/you physically.
I've read it on one of the threads several times over the months just after the XZU became available as a GPe. Many new users were trying to root, flash ROM's, and fix the partitions since they're different on the GPe's and their devices suffered the boot loops too.
Download Flashtool, run a TA Backup and then flash a stock .ftf if that's what your looking to do. Providing this device is not HOT. Why would one sell a BEAST of a device with a bad case of the boot loops to begin with? Better yet why on earth would you buy one in that condition? All kinds of flags would've/should've been raised - didn't you even question how it got that way or why it was in that state to begin with?
They have these bad boys are selling for $314.99 at http://www.expansys-usa.com/sony-xperia-z-ultra-c6833-unlocked-lte-16gb-black-251963/ in the United States. Expansys sells internationally direct from the comfort of your own safe and legal hideout. THAT would've been a more prudent thing to do AND you would've gotten a warranty on top of it!
Just sayin'

looking to buy a xperia z ultra

Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
zubeedubs said:
Hi all, as a picky customer ive been following the z ultra forum as of a week now, i still havent ordered the phone yet but its the prime contender for me as the system specs are similar to the ones on my now broken LG G2 (r.i.p) it seems like a optimal replacement (and a bargain at the price it carries!!)
i have to say that ive never really had a sony handset before so im not that familiar with th UI, its perks and of course its bugs..
just needed you guys to put the final nail in the coffin on the deal for me as i find that its always best to get some info from "professional" users rather than "over the counter".
soooooo...
could you please tell me some of your praises for this device?? is the sony UI as restrictive as ive heard it to be? is the battery really that good?? decent accessories that you feel are worth getting??
cheers in advance!!!
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Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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If you want to run different ROMs - get the international version. The GPe 4.4.4 and Lollipop is already ported so they are available.
The problem with the GPe is that it uses a different partition scheme making it unable to use ROMs for the rest of the crowd (C6802/6806-nonGPe/6833). I would therefore recommend a C6806 or C6833 depending on what bands (LTE) you want and need.
Because of the superior selection of ROMs including GPe, I would simply go for a C6833 unless you are absolutely sure that everything else than the GPe ROM is of no interest.
With the "Sony Edition" (C6833 et al) you have great options: Sony ROMs, GPe or AOSP/CM based ones in different flavors. I think this selection is reason enough to go for the Xperia rather than the GPe.
Leechoonhwee said:
Get the GPE version of the Z Ultra which I believe should be cheaper than the international version and runs stock Android.
However if you prefer to have the Sony suites of software then by all means go for the international version.
For the international version, you can flash a port of the GPE rom but you can't flash a port of stock rom onto a GPE set.
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As they are in Italy I would not recommend the c6806 in either the Sony version or the GPe, get the c6833 (international). Sony's UI is very 'stock' android with very little bloat and packaged apps. As for battery life, expect 4 to 8 hours of screen on time depending on what you are doing. My GPe version on Lollipop has 5 days uptime, ~20% battery used and it says 13 days remaining on standby with the wifi on - no real use this week as I'm using my other phone.
thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
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thanks to all of you for your input.. its really apreciated!!!i think i'll go for the international variant as it seems i have a bit more to play with modding wise... now all i need to do is reach payday and order it!!!
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Just looking at your sig, I think we could be the same boat.
I had 4 years all with HTC phones ( HD2, Ruby, One) and I recently made a first move to Sony phone, this Z Ultra C6833 and have no regret, even one bit. I personally think Sony phone has great battery, very responsive touchscreen, premium quality hardware built etc...which on par with HTC at least, or better.
Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets. I didn't think about buying one, until I had one in my hands to try, and I was sold in 3 minutes. With the heavy dropped price on this Z Ultra these days, it's a steal, you'll be more than happy.
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Sony brand is somehow underestimated on smartphone markets.
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
Here in italy its not as highly regarded as samsung or LG neither is HTC but i look at specs affidability and price over the usual consumer jargon.. im sure ill be pleased with this device!!!
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In Australasia, Asia and western Europe Sony has very good market penetration. Other than work phones I know more people that have an Xperia than have an ifone here in NZ
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I agree that Sony is still a big name of the game, what I mean was Sony deserves more than that. It could be one of top 3 players. Here in Canada Sony doesn't seem to do much comparing to other brands name. I wished I'd knew how good Sony phones was sooner. It's great to know that Sony phones are doing well in other countries.
I dont know if there is amazon in italy, but I bought mine for €260.- on amazon.
The alternative was the LG G2 for €300.-
If you really like to use big phones, go for it. I actually wanted a big phone and really like sony Z line design of phones, not to mention the extremely appealing price. Snapdragon 800 and a huge phone for €260? It was a no brainer for me.
Not to mention the advantage of having a GPe Version, portable lolipop roms. Just in case you miss it, this phone has an IPS display, unlike the Z and Z1 of sony.
There are complaints though, so for those, you can find enough information. Personally, I am very satisfied.
just as an update i ordered the C6833 variant just now at 239 euro (im still rubbing my hands like monty burns!!) thanks to all for your input!!!
i'll look forward to sharing the z ultra sub section with you guys!!
i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
asadkhanduhh said:
i enjoyed the xperia z ultra for the three months i had it.
it broke not too long ago.
i will see that the camera is horrid, and that i a now on a iphone 6 plus space gray 128gb and i do not think ill be looking back.
looking fwd to future ultra releases.
time will tell.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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I don't think I would be able to enjoy an iPhone 6 Plus in comparison with my 240 DPI phablet mode Ultra with MultiWindow and floating apps.
Edit: It seems like Sony start to list the Ultra as being "discontinued" so I think every interested buyer should pull the trigger soon. It gives me an indication that they finally stopped the production and that the stock isn't going to be replenished anymore.
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And getting ready for Z4 Ultra production. Yay!
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I haven't seen it for sale here in the US lately, as it was on sale here for Christmas ? .
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Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
Need Advice
Flaco05 said:
Expansys USA had the 6833 for $285 a couple of days ago.
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I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
A definite buy
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I have Nexus 5 as a primary one and looking at Ultra Z as my secondary phone in Inda we have a great deal which makes the phone at around 300 dollars
I want the existing users who have used it to suggest whether its worth buying or not
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I have recently purchased Z Ultra after having a lot of comparison with other devices and I have no regret that I have bought this device. The price was a major factor.
The screen size is something It would take time for to adjust with(First time using a phone with such a form factor, all previous devices were around 4.5 inches)
The phone is butter smooth and no lag at all. Battery lasts around 2-2.5 days with moderate usage(Have stamina mode ON for the full time).
I will surely recommend to get a ZU.
Just got mine
As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
Thanks so that should be my next device, I have been waiting for a pass for One Plus, actualy was the very first one to get it when it was launched in India but didnt have the money to buy it now I tired waiting endlessly for it and have decided to go for ZU
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As a long time android user, recent windows phone user, I am glad I got this device. Was on winphone with tether to nexus 7, and figured I would stop messing around and start carrying a tablet (phablet) with the phone. I have always wanted a Sony device but couldnt justify the price. With an unlocked device at around $300 I figured it was a no lose situation.
I love it. The screen is magnificent. And there really isnt too much bloatware from Sony. Such great build quality so far, Ive been using it for about 3 weeks. (early Christmas present to myself)
I would say go for it.
Its great to be back to Android full time, I like MS, I really liked Nokia...but it just didnt do it for me.
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Stick to your Z Ultra until the new version arrive

Hi,
I smash my ZU screen 2 months ago, I was in a hurry and there is no ZU on the stock here so I buy a LG G3. That device is rock solid specs, roms, community is really good but can not feel comfortable with it. You can see lots of people out there using the same device. I give to my dad and go for an nexus 6. I'm using it for 3 weeks. Most of you know the device no need to tell about it but it is thick and bulky. Ne feel of premium device. Early updates are good but buggy. I use it but I don't love it. LG G Line, Sammy S and Note Line are all good devices, all you can fine well cookeded roms for them like CM variants, AOSP variants. But it is same for the Z Ultra too.
Last night I see the broken ZU on the desk, take it on my hands. It feels sooooo slick, premium and special. As a fellow ZU buddy of you, my advice is just stick to your beast-giant-premium ZU. Other devices are bad but only the waste of time for a ZU user. Only alternative for me is rumored Z5 Ultra for know. I beleive we'll is in in next 4 months may be sooner.
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Well dah, I'm on my 5th ultra now
My Z Ultra looks more like tablet for me.
I'm in love with my purple Z Ultra and never want to give it up! ???
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Im using the Z3 compact tablet whilst waiting for the new ultra. However, I fear that now the new Ultra will be too small for me.
Ukbondraider said:
Im using the Z3 compact tablet whilst waiting for the new ultra. However, I fear that now the new Ultra will be too small for me.
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Isn't that 14cm wide? Just too big for a pocket...
I have to agree with you. My ZU touch screen was not working. I bought a C5 ultra. I thought they share the similar spec. But it can't replicate the premium feel on the hand.
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I have to agree with you. My ZU touch screen was not working. I bought a C5 ultra. I thought they share the similar spec. But it can't replicate the premium feel on the hand.
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How do you find the Xperia C5? I like the look of the super slim bezels. How do you find the camera performance - it is the only issue I ever had with my ZU.
If your really a ZU lover you always have 2 on hand! Can always find one under $300
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How do you find the Xperia C5? I like the look of the super slim bezels. How do you find the camera performance - it is the only issue I ever had with my ZU.
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Slow camera launch and shutter speed. Other than that I have no issue, I am not nit-picky about the colour accuracy and low light performance. However, I do notice that photo can be blurry if my hand shakes a little bit. I think it is because the camera module does not have optical image stabilization.
Heheee I feel you buddy. Don't give up on this 6.4' beautiful monster. 4 months of ZU use and I wouldn't trade off for no 2015 device yet, 2 years since release and this [email protected] still feels rock solid and commands respect among equals!
Now waiting for Xperia Z 5 Ultra : A better camera with LED Flash, Less bezels &more battery juice maybe!:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
I have my ZU for almost 2 years now (January 2014) and I've started looking for alternatives. Besides screen size (anything smaller than 6" is too small), the thickness (or thinness) is very important to me. In that area, there is no quality competition.
The Xperia C5 is too thick, the X5 Premium is close, but a bit thicker and the screen is under 6".
There are phones from other makers, like the Huawei P8 max, but they don't have the beautiful Xperia design and feel. Somehow they feel like an augmented phone while the ZU really looks like something that is designed to be like this from the beginning, balanced and well proportionate in its size.
So, just like you guys, still no solution. I'll keep the ZU for now, just bought a new USB flap for it. And if something breaks, I think I'll buy the same model on eBay.
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My Z Ultra looks more like tablet for me.
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:laugh:I buy my Z Ultra C6806 last December 2014 today when people see it i'm ask if it's a tablet or a phone I tell them it's a big Phone
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[emoji23]I buy my Z Ultra C6806 last December 2014 today when people see it i'm ask if it's a tablet or a phone I tell them it's a big Phone
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It's a phablet [emoji23]
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Two years I've had my Z ultra. I love this thing, best $600 I ever spent on a phone. At the time I was considering a note 3 or the Z ultra in the Z ultra with 100 bucks cheaper. So glad I didn't go with the note 3.
By the way, where do you buy a new USB flap?
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Two years I've had my Z ultra. I love this thing, best $600 I ever spent on a phone. At the time I was considering a note 3 or the Z ultra in the Z ultra with 100 bucks cheaper. So glad I didn't go with the note 3.
By the way, where do you buy a new USB flap?
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There is plenty of them on aliexpress.com
I got an update over 500MB size, is it mashmallow?
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I got an update over 500MB size, is it mashmallow?
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This handset isn't getting Marshmallow, so no.
Bought mine a month after it was originally released, still going strong.
Love ZU
Loving it still after many years. Kept it on 4.4.4 stock with root only. Won't change until Sony makes another like it. :fingers-crossed:

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