Finally, a rival to the XZU - the Huawei Mediapad X2 - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-huawei-mediapad-x2
1920x1200 7" display
LTE

speculatrix said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-huawei-mediapad-x2
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This is lovely; I like it a lot.I wonder what the price will be though for each version?

Very interesting indeed!
I decided the Z3 tablet is a bit much for me as a phone but this one could be the one if it gets any dev behind it and a good screen of course.

Agreed about whether a hacker community forms around it.
Before I buy a device, I check XDA and Modaco to see whether anyone else is working on it.

Hmmm, the SoC used has a Mali GPU, but I don't know anything about the CPU
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Mediapad X2 boasts an "ultra" octa-core, 64-bit Kirin 930 chipset clocked in at 2.0Ghz

The development for Huawei are pathetic at best.. I have ascend mate 1 & 2. Benchmarks are ok but real life use is pretty laggy. I gave up on the company. Look at their flagship, the mate 7. It's out for a while but there's still no custom rom if I am not wrong..

For me there is more to XZU than just the screen size, be it the extra sensitivity or the looks, on these grounds we should rather wait for the real successor sony is supposedly working on

tchsvy said:
For me there is more to XZU than just the screen size, be it the extra sensitivity or the looks, on these grounds we should rather wait for the real successor sony is supposedly working on
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Agree:good:

I am open to other manufacturers working on 7-8 inch devices but in order to be a viable replacement, some things are necessary:
1. Snapdragon 810 or 820
2. 3-4 GB RAM
3. 32-128 GB internal storage
4. MicroSDXC slot
5. 6.5-8 inch display with 2K resolution or higher
6. Vanilla Android or a lightly skinned version (Sony or Motorola style)
7. Developer friendliness with decent ROM support
8. Adequate camera (12 MP is perfectly fine)
9. Support for an external camera module (DSC-QX10 et al)
It would be great with a keyboard flipcover accessory as well.
A device without microSD slot and a lack of ROMs would fail to replace the Ultra in a proper way. The same goes for heavily skinned Android implementations or a lack of hardware standardization (a lot of different ROM incompatible versions).
The Huawei MediaPad X2 could be a "replacement" provided decent ROM support and similar LTE bands as the Ultra but I am not sure about those things.
I am quite sure that a viable "replacement" to the Ultra will be either a Sony device or something from a Chinese manufacturer. I still hope for an Oppo or Xiaomi since I think it is those two companies that would be able to actually tick the boxes properly if Sony would let us down with a Z4 Ultra. Similar hardware as the new Z4 Tablet would be great.

For me it's about manageability and think my Zu is just about manageable in the hand. I am aware others see it as a bit of a freak when they consider what's acceptable as their phone/daily driver but I like that it blurs the line of whats acceptable as a phone or tablet and I like that for me it's both...The Zu is my phone when I need to make calls text etc add to that the convenience of probably the best Web browsing experience on any device I have ever used with phone capability, decent battery, powerful innards, then let me at it-i say!!
Let the naysayers nay.
However the Huawei pad while spec wise is great it just seems to push that boundary of what I would consider manageable as a Phone.
I enjoy the tall slender ergonomics of the Zu but the Huawei just looks too wide and tablet-y for what I would consider manageable...I do like the smaller bezels tho

Less than a quarter inch taller and half inch wider, has an sd slot and the processor is supposed to be 16 nm die size similar to Apple.A9 chip.

scpion said:
The development for Huawei are pathetic at best. I gave up on the company.
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It's all because it's ''made in China'' .
Con500 said:
For me it's about manageability and think my Zu is just about manageable in the hand. I am aware others see it as a bit of a freak
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Lol, you just reminded me. Several days back I was ordering a Chicken Twister Meal from some fast food restaurant called SFC (Southern Fried Chicken) .
Anyway I placed my order and took a seat since it needed time to prepare. Wife calls and I answer and we start chatting...
I noticed the two Filipino women who took my order were both whispering to each other whilst looking at me and were laughing...
Needless to say I know exactly why they were laughing. They saw me speaking on such a huge phone which wasn't normal for them
and it really made them laugh...
I didn't give a $hit and continued. Other times whilst on the phone, I've had looks/hard stares and in some cases women approach me and ask what phone I have, model and size. There have been many stares especially when taking the phone out my pocket whilst on the train. Half the cabin are staring wondering what phone you have and shocked at it's huge size.
When people do give funny looks I couldn't care less especially because of another thing I saw. On several occasions, I've even seen people talking on 8-10" tablets!!! They were not using earphones, the phone was on their ear, now that looks a lot funnier than my 6.4" Xperia Z Ultra...

Another candidate
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03/mwc-2015-hands-ztes-high-end-phablet-nubia-x6.html
Personally prefer how the x2 look, but 2015 is turning out to be a promising year for big phablet lover

Hilmhaz said:
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03/mwc-2015-hands-ztes-high-end-phablet-nubia-x6.html
Personally prefer how the x2 look, but 2015 is turning out to be a promising year for big phablet lover
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Indeed I prefer the x2 as well. I mean, if I am moving from the Ultra I rather do it to a bigger phone but not so sure about the chipset of the x2. I wish it was the Snapdragon 810.
Also, on the ZTE, well, it is the same size as my Ultra so the only way for me to upgrade would be if it was some better looking screen (darker blacks etc) and replaceable batteries. I guess I am happy enough with the Ultra that I can be picky

I don't trust these chinese manufactures.
It will be stuck on the same Android Version for ages, with next to no development.

I have had both the Huawei Ascend Mate7 with an Octa Core Kirin 925 @1.8GHz and the Huawei MediaPad X1 with a Quad Core VR91 @1.6GHz.
The X1 was just too slow and laggy but other than that it was a great device. It looks very nice and build quality was comparable to an iPhone 5 or 6. Of course it's big but I used it as a phone and had no issues with it.
The Mate7 was too small for my taste but performance wise I had no issues. It was comparable to the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 in that regard.
The MediaPad X2 uses a Kirin 930 @2.0GHz and has Lollipop so I have no doubt it will not be a laggy device.
With regard to ROMs, if you install another launcher the Huawei software is bearable. It's not like TouchWiz. I am looking forward to getting the X2 and if it can be rooted I think I will be satisfied. Hopefully Huawei will come out with a proper European version without the Chinese stuff on it.

Hilmhaz said:
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03/mwc-2015-hands-ztes-high-end-phablet-nubia-x6.html
Personally prefer how the x2 look, but 2015 is turning out to be a promising year for big phablet lover
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Have been tracking this device (x6 with 3GB RAM & 128gb) at least for the past 6-7 months as I was getting restless for new phone (I change phones every 3 months). Since there was no release date on sight, I sold my XZU, bought Lumia 1520 but found it small for my taste (But loved Windows OS; one for future if they launch with 6.2+ screen size) so sold it off after 1 month and re bought XZU again!
Have been tracking this phone in below website where the Customer care is promising launch dates (3GB+128gb) but nothing has been done in almost 6 months.
http://www.nubiamobileshop.com/nubi...pdragon-801-2gb-32gb-13-0mp-camera-white.html
However, if it launches for around $400 (which is not going to happen as 2gb version is around $450 and 3gb one will around $700), I would definitely look into it as Mediapad X2 looks too wide and will be difficult to hold.

Definitely interested in this device, but I wonder what the price will be. Hard to compete with the Ultra since it can be had for less than 300.

ZTE Nubia X6
Snapdragon 801
6,44" fullhd display
3 gb ram
32 / 64 / 128 gb
lte, bluetooth 4.0, nfc, wi-fi abgn, infrared
4500 mah battery

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What planet are you living on... ? (for clarification phablet means AT LEAST 6in. Or bigger...)

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[Q] HTC One X+ v.s. Sony Xperia T v.s. LG Nexus 4

Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
Edit:
Also considering the LG Optimus G now coz the reviews r pretty good
LG isn't as bad as ppl think it is. Nexus products are undoubtedly good.
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AdX9170 said:
Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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well the nexus 4 has a quad core krait at 1.6GHz and a 2GB RAM.. i mean the best u can get for that price now is a 1GHz dual core with max 1GB RAM..
so i'm not sure how to believe the build quality
Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
leventccc said:
Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
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give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
AdX9170 said:
give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
But the Main drawback of nexus is it does not have a sd card slot if storage not an issue for you then nexus is an option.. I think it will available in 8 and 16 GB ..please correct me if I am wrong..
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for me its best wait another bit because i think google will do like with nexus 7.now lg nexus 8\16,then after a month,2 or 3,also upper storage at a bit more price..just my suggestion,but i seriously think they will do so.Anyways,in that comparison,lg nexus 4 all the way.at least also the sony,but man,a nexus is a nexus!in 2016 probably you will have in this day upcoming the android 8.0 for lg nexus 4.think of it
the hardware matters more to me.. u can always get a custom rom but u cant change the hardware.. and also, im not considering ne phone bigger than 4.7 inches.. so nexus 7 is outta the picture.. so is note 2.
leventccc said:
Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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If HTC or Sony come out with a quad core krait phone il b the first one to buy it
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I feel like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number of reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said there is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest and greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonate shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
cb474 said:
I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I fee like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said their is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest a greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonite shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
The software on the nexus 4 isn't the final version, so wait until the consumer version comes out!
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I'd get the One X+. It's really a joy to hold, looks great, and already has a massive development community.
AdX9170 said:
Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I wouldn't totally write off the Nexus 4 yet. I'm still considering it. Partly because it is a very good deal, for an unlocked phone. The One X+ or Xperia T and Optimus G will probably cost almost twice as much, unlocked.
And I think devgee is correct that the review units for the Nexus 4 did not have the final consumer version of the software on them yet. This might address the battery life and cpu benchmark issues. (It's unfortunate the reviews get published on devices that aren't really what will ship, because any improvements or changes can get overlooked later. I don't know if these reviewers will go back and retest the device.)
For me, it's the minimal storage on the Nexus 4 that makes me hesitate the most, but maybe I can learn to live with it.
If you like the Optimus G, it's definitely worth considering, since it doesn't have the storage limitations of the Nexus 4, and it tested well for battery life and in the cpu benchmarks. And some versions have a higher resolution 13MP camera. But you give up the pure Android experience. And as James.UBC points out, I don't know that it will have as many custom ROM options as the One X+. I don't really like the design of the Optimus G, but that is entirely a superficial reason not to get it and only my personal taste. Some people think it looks great.
I agree that it would be nice to have the S4 Pro chipset. You can also get this in the Asus Padfone 2, which is a cool phone. It also has 2GB of RAM, the Adreno 320, LTE (for certain frequencies), a 2140 mAh battery, and 16/32/64GB storage options. Plus there's the tablet attachement, if you're into that. Its big downside is that it may have no custom ROMs for it at all, if you want that. I think the original Padfone had basically no development. It's a bit puzzling, because this is a cool phone.
I also agree with James.UBC that the One X+ has a great design. To me its main downsides are that it will be much more expensive than the Nexus 4, unlocked (probably $600US or more). And I don't know if it will have an unlocked bootloader, depending on which version I want to get. And even if it does, I'll have to wait for the development community to catch up and release a ROM that will give me a stock-like Android experience (I don't like Sense). And of course, it has a very good CPU, but one from the previous generation of architecture. I tend to keep my phones for a while, so something that is as future proof as possible is good for me.
Anyway, I recommend that you read reviews of the devices you're interested in on the sites I mentioned in my first post and search around for other reviews. Reviews are easy to find and you get a sense pretty quickly of how thoughtful and knowledgeable the reviewer is. Then keep an eye out in the reviews for comments about the features that matter to you and any problems mentioned. I wouldn't take any one particular review as necessarily right. But if you read several, you start to get a feel for what the issues are.
In the end, you probably can't go wrong with any of these devices either. It really comes down to a matter of personal taste and which features are most important to you. No one device is the best one for everybody.
Thanks a lot cb474.. for me, storage is very important and so is camera.. price comes later in the priority list.. development is also important..
nexus 4 will only have 11~12GB of user available space.. on my x10, i have a 16GB microsd with an ext3 partition of ~700MB which is almost full.. in spite of that i have used up more than 11GB on the sd so i dont think 11GB overall free mem will b enough for me
so my options should be the optimus g (which has an average camera), one x+ (has old generation hardware), xperia t (has dual core with only 1GB ram)... arggghhh!!!
padphone 2 is also gr8 but if theres no dev on it then i'm not willing to go for it
ok this thread has reached a dead end for now.. will wait for the said phones to release and get better reviews..
thanks folks!!
Yeah, it's a hard decision to make. I remain torn between the Nexus 4 and One X+. I care about storage too. 16GB is just a little paltry, for the reasons you point out. At least 32GB would have been nice. Some people think there's a chance there will be a refresh of the Nexus 4 in a few months, with more storage. But I've learned my lesson in the past, about waiting around for rumored and speculated phones.
I'm also a little concerned about the mediocre battery life the Nexus 4 is currently getting, although it's with pre-release software. I'm a bit in a wait and see mode on that.
I agree that as nice as the Padfone 2 is, without development, it's ruled out for me. I presonally would not consider the Sony because of the dual core processor.
It's true the One X+ has a previous generation hardware, but only six months ago it was cutting edge, so I feel like it's splitting hairs a bit. On the other hand, if gaming is important to you the newer generation cpu and gpu in the Nexus 4/Optimus G will make a difference. The bigger long term (future proof) limitation of the One X+, to me, is the 1GB or RAM. But I think it's still a nice phone worth considering.
Still, as I said, if you like the Optimus G, it seems like a good choice. Yeah the One X+ camera hardware is better, it's software is supposed to have a slightly annoying continuous autofocus function. But on some level all these phones are good enough. The great phone cameras are in the Nokia phones, the Lumia 920 and the 808 Pureview. Unless that's super imporant to you, I think it may not be the most important point for the decision.
Good luck in deciding. I'm waiting for more reviews too.

[Q] Is the Z ultra still worth buying? Did you guys get used to the size?

Hey guys,
so I've been eyeballing with the Z ultra since last year september or something. It was around the time my Note 2 broke and I needed a new phone.
However a few months after it was released the price was just too high (~600€) for me to afford - . So I went with the Nexus5 which was released for only 350 Euros and I really needed a phone back then. Now the ZU is half the price (300€). Interesting price development which really implies that this phone realls isnt for everyone.
so I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about daily usage of the phone - mostly in terms of Size. When sitting somewhere, standing and stuff, I dont care about the size but when moving around I'm afraid it would get impractical.
Does it fit in your trouser-poket at all?
Or you guys mostly put it in the pocket of the Jacket?
Do you always have to wear a small bag to go out with the phone?
How do you carry it when its hot? (Maybe someone who bought it in a hot place since it was released in the fall)
On the other hand, there is the Note 3, which is currently available for 360€ (weekend offer, normally 450€). So I'm really strugglin with the choice of which device to get. If the ZU size is really dealable i'd definitely prefer it over the N3. I would really appreciate it if you could share your experience.
(I know there have been rumors, whether there's gonna be a Z2 Ultra or not but looking at the price (which would be like 700 on release) I don't think I that the new Z2U would matter to me until 2015.)
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Hey guys,
so I've been eyeballing with the Z ultra since last year september or something. It was around the time my Note 2 broke and I needed a new phone.
However a few months after it was released the price was just too high (~600€) for me to afford - . So I went with the Nexus5 which was released for only 350 Euros and I really needed a phone back then. Now the ZU is half the price (300€). Interesting price development which really implies that this phone realls isnt for everyone.
so I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about daily usage of the phone - mostly in terms of Size. When sitting somewhere, standing and stuff, I dont care about the size but when moving around I'm afraid it would get impractical.
Does it fit in your trouser-poket at all?
Or you guys mostly put it in the pocket of the Jacket?
Do you always have to wear a small bag to go out with the phone?
How do you carry it when its hot? (Maybe someone who bought it in a hot place since it was released in the fall)
On the other hand, there is the Note 3, which is currently available for 360€ (weekend offer, normally 450€). So I'm really strugglin with the choice of which device to get. If the ZU size is really dealable i'd definitely prefer it over the N3. I would really appreciate it if you could share your experience.
(I know there have been rumors, whether there's gonna be a Z2 Ultra or not but looking at the price (which would be like 700 on release) I don't think I that the new Z2U would matter to me until 2015.)
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So many posts like yours. Please search? But anyway, here's my answer. Yes it is still worth to buy. The development curve has been reaching plateau for a while so it will still be fast for 1-2years to the future. As for carrying i just bring it into my chest pocket and no damn given..
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Phone is definitely big but easily pocketable in all but the slimmest of pants. Personally i sold mine partly because of the size. After three months of ownership i just wanted something much smaller to move around with.
But to answer ur question it is still one of the most powerful out there. Even the z2ultra i suspect will be a minor spec bump over the original much like the z2 is over the z1. I say go for it.
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So many posts like yours. Please search? But anyway, here's my answer. Yes it is still worth to buy. The development curve has been reaching plateau for a while so it will still be fast for 1-2years to the future. As for carrying i just bring it into my chest pocket and no damn given..
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I'm sorry, I wasnt sure what to search for, so I went for the keyword "pocket" and only found about how much people had no trouble having it in their pocket.
However I would rather like to know about what kind of pockets you use. Does it always have to be the Jacket? What about when wearing shorts?
How about the situation when you're in the office and wanna go get some coffee and dont need your jacket or bag?
Thanks for the answer.
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Phone is definitely big but easily pocketable in all but the slimmest of pants. Personally i sold mine partly because of the size. After three months of ownership i just wanted something much smaller to move around with.
But to answer ur question it is still one of the most powerful out there. Even the z2ultra i suspect will be a minor spec bump over the original much like the z2 is over the z1. I say go for it.
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Thank you for your answer.
So you're saying it fits but it makes you feel uncomfortable when moving around with it in your (trouser)pocket?
Just to put it plain and simple if you want to buy the Z Ultra because of how comfortable it fits in your pocket then I suggest you move on.
Its like saying you wanna buy a Ferrari but but are afraid that it might be too fast.
depends...
I live in a tropical island where the only two types of weather we get is hot and scorching. As such clothing is light the majority if the time. as such the only real option is a pants pocket which fits comfortably but you still know its there with every step. Honestly its not as bad as I may be making it sound but its really up to personal preference. If possible find someone you know who has one and see how it feels to you.
Personally after owning many phones of varying sizes I've found that my preference is an smaller phone (my Lumia 820 is the perfect size) and now I have a larger tablet for media consumption and general use. Usage scenario preferences vary from person to person. The only real way to know what is best for you is to try them all. Its a bit of a hassle and maybe a little expensive but its the foolproof way.
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After using the Z ultra for a couple weeks it doesn't really seem big anymore. I could even go a little bigger.
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After using the Z ultra for a couple weeks it doesn't really seem big anymore. I could even go a little bigger.
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Had it since December, and much the same- I could stand going up to 6.5" or even a 7" screen as a phablet.
Only thing I might ever switch to is those Asus Padfones (Or Phonepads? Can't remember which one is which). Those ones that let you stick their phone into a tablet. Sounds nice and the best of both worlds, but the only one that's come up into the US is a 7" one, which just isn't worth the effort (Plus, I don't know if they work with custom firmware, so...).
had in when first time arrive on my county with cost almost 570 Euro, till now im still proud with my ZU, its never let me down.
check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2666638
The ZU is still very relevant. It has the S800, 2GB RAM a 1080p display and other high-end specifications. It seems like the mobile world has plateaued lately, and there are really no "must have" features coming up, as far as I'm concerned. The Snapdragon 801 and 805 are the new SoCs, but they are only marginally better than the 800, so there's really no reason to upgrade. QHD screens? Sure, if you want to get poor battery life. The pixels are rising, but the battery capacity is not.
Upcoming devices:
- Galaxy S5: 2014 ugliest phone (IMO) and it looks like Samsung is checking how many stupid people are out there.
- The New HTC One (M8): Not officially announced yet, but we've pretty much seen the whole thing already, including in a 14 minute German video review yesterday. Nothing special.
Xperia Z2: Looks really nice, but not worth it if you're currently owning an S800 device.
Xperia Z2 Ultra(?): Will probably be announced this summer like last year. Will probably run the 801, 3GB RAM and an updated design. Most people, including me, will probably want it, but it's not worth it. It's like when I had the Galaxy Note and the Note 2 arrived. It wasn't worth the upgrade.
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The XZU C6833 is one of my favorite phablet phones on 2013 and 2014.
Still worth the purchase. Plus im having fun with it when I see a tiny iphone. Haha I'd like to tease my girlfriend but she does used my device more now than her iphone. The text and viewing content has been excellent
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The phone is indeed pocket-able even in the tightest of pants if your a guy, most female pants have much shallower pockets and thus my sister isnt able to fit my phone into her pockets.
The thing is that although it fits sitting becomes cumbersome as the pants constrict the phone and pushes it towards your leg so i often have it out when i know im going to sit for long periods of time. Also it is a pain when you have to take it out of your pockets under your jacket.
In insanely hot climates, like 35 degrees C the phone is also uncomfortable...especially if you sweat.
In comparison to the n3, i would say that the ZU has a nicer build, and also a larger screen. LCD is an added bonus if you prefer it over amoled. Plus its also water resistant which makes it useful when rainy/when bathing. Also, the lack of touch-wiz is also a bonus
But the n3 has (in my opinion) a more optimized OS for a larger screen such as multiwindow (yes i realize sony has tiny apps but its just not the same), better speakers, and a better camera. Plus a smaller amoled screen.
If the waterproof-ness and larger screen appeal more to you i would suggest the ZU, otherwise i myself would've chosen the note 3 as amoled is my preferred screen tech. Hope this helps...
Have had the phone for a few months, and pretty much doubt I'll go with anything with a smaller screen in the future. If the ZU2 ends up being only a minor upgrade as I and some others are expecting, I'll probably wait for the ZU3...saves me shelling out $$$ everyone 6-12 months
Not the perfect phone, but the only one out with most of what I was after in a handset.
Its summer all year round in my country and the phone is anytime cooler than the weather lol.
I carry the phone in my sling bag so I go for the biggest screen that's available for me.
Performance and spec for the ZU will last another 2 years before it becomes obselete so definitely worth getting for the price now. I remembered getting the ZU on day one and it costs about USD 900.
Some other upcoming models in the 5.5 -7 inch region you can consider might be
Oppo Find 7 (5.5 inch 2k display, Snapdragon 801, 3GB, 32GB )
Huawei MediaPad X1 LTE (7inch 1,920 x 1,200 LTPS, Arms Cortex A9 Soc, 2GB, 16GB)
Vivo Xplay 3S (6 inch 2k display, Snapdragon 800, 3GB, 32GB)
I think that it is safe to say that the Z Ultra is by far the best product in the 6" screen-size range (let's face it, the alternatives are not even close in terms of quality...). So, if screen size is a factor for you as it is for many of us, go for it, you will not regret this.
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****, I just across an announcement on ZTE Nubia X6 just now. The spec is amazing
6.4inch FHD
Snapdragon 801
3gb ram
128gb internal
Dual sim support 3g and LTE
4000mh battery
13mp camera
This is truly a ZU contender.
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This is truly a ZU contender.
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Sure, if you believe that a Lada with 600 HP is as good as an AMG.
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Sure, if you believe that a Lada with 600 HP is as good as an AMG.
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I get what you mean but there's always a struggle between quality and spec. The lada will cross the finish line first that's what some people go for.
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Leechoonhwee said:
I get what you mean but there's always a struggle between quality and spec. The lada will cross the finish line first that's what some people go for.
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Like Sony said, difference is in detail, Sony detail

Any other 7 inch phones?

I really like my 7 inch Mediapad X1, But something with little more power in the CPU department would be nice. Its sort of sluggish at times.
Has anyone seen any other 7 inch phones with a faster Qualcomm or Snapdragon CPU?
wait for x2
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In the last two months I was searching for the same,,, without finding better CPU or 3 GB ram in 7" .. Hope that the coming x2 will satisfy the needs
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In the last two months I was searching for the same,,, without finding better CPU or 3 GB ram in 7" .. Hope that the coming x2 will satisfy the needs
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Do we have any details on the mediapad X2?
Give me 3gb of ram and a fast cpu and i'd have my perfect phone.
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Do we have any details on the mediapad X2?
Give me 3gb of ram and a fast cpu and i'd have my perfect phone.
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Some websites writing the following :
it’s going to have a full metal body but looks similar to the previous model with the same slots for the volume, SIM card, etc… The size is believed to be around 7-inches as well, so it’s not going to be the type of handset you can easily tote around in your pocket – unless you have really big pockets.
The leaked Huawei MediaPad X2 specs is said to sport the aforementioned 7-inch display with a resolution of 1,920 x 1,200. It will get its power from a Kirin 925, and that will be backed up by 3GB of RAM. No other specs were given
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Some websites writing the following :
it’s going to have a full metal body but looks similar to the previous model with the same slots for the volume, SIM card, etc… The size is believed to be around 7-inches as well, so it’s not going to be the type of handset you can easily tote around in your pocket – unless you have really big pockets.
The leaked Huawei MediaPad X2 specs is said to sport the aforementioned 7-inch display with a resolution of 1,920 x 1,200. It will get its power from a Kirin 925, and that will be backed up by 3GB of RAM. No other specs were given
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Sounds perfect, I guess I'll have to keep my eye out for the Mediapad X2
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Sounds perfect, I guess I'll have to keep my eye out for the Mediapad X2
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Here : http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/12/27/huawei-honor-x2-pictures-specs-leaked-features-full-metal-body/
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Here : http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/12/27/huawei-honor-x2-pictures-specs-leaked-features-full-metal-body/
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8 Core CPU. Sounds pretty good
More info about Huawei Mediapad X2 :
http://www.unlockpwd.com/huawei-mediapad-x2-exists-and-has-been-certified/
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8 Core CPU. Sounds pretty good
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8 inch is more convenient and not much bigger. And makes a difference from 5.5 inch phones, which were called phablets not long ago. If u want 3G/4G, there aren't many alternatives, usually. I still use the original Mediapad S7 with dualcore cpu, along with a much more powerful 10 inch tablet, which I won't use outside, as long as the MP does still its job.
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8 inch is more convenient and not much bigger. And makes a difference from 5.5 inch phones, which were called phablets not long ago. If u want 3G/4G, there aren't many alternatives, usually. I still use the original Mediapad S7 with dualcore cpu, along with a much more powerful 10 inch tablet, which I won't use outside, as long as the MP does still its job.
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An 8 inch phone is perfectly fine with me, But i'm not aware of any that have 3G/4G connectivity for making phone calls.
As my 10" Samsung Note 10.1 2014 is phone call capable, so should at least part of the smaller Notes and Pads. Though they are more expensive than Huawei stuff while having inferior build quality, like delicate plastic frames.
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As my 10" Samsung Note 10.1 2014 is phone call capable, so should at least part of the smaller Notes and Pads. Though they are more expensive than Huawei stuff while having inferior build quality, like delicate plastic frames.
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I haven't found anything 8 inch with cell calling capability yet...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_3_8_0-5456.php
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I used it as a phone for a year. I liked it, and actually carried it around in my pocket.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_3_8_0-5456.php
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I used it as a phone for a year. I liked it, and actually carried it around in my pocket.
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Nice! Now if they made a more modern version of that I'd be in....
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_3_8_0-5456.php
Galaxy tab 8.0 t311
I used it as a phone for a year. I liked it, and actually carried it around in my pocket.
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Sorry, but that isn't even in the same league!
Half the display resolution, only 5mp camera.
The price is good at about €250 with 3Gb ram.
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I haven't found anything 8 inch with cell calling capability yet...
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Lenovo Spark 8
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/lenovo/s-series/s8/#tab-available_from
4G LTE with call capability, Intel Atom Quad Core Processor with 2GB ram, FHD IPS screen, microSD support, 4290mAh, rear camera has flash (torchlight! cant live without this function!), very attractively priced at ard $280-290
if i m ditching huawei X1, i will seriously consider this
Another gem to consider will be Asus Memopad 8
http://www.asus.com/sg/Tablets/ASUS_MeMO_Pad_8_ME581CL/
Similarly spec-ed as Lenovo Spark 8 on paper, but it has a 'better' screen in reality (very close to X1, imho, X1 has the best screen among the 3, that is the sole reason I m sticking with it atm, everytime it lights up, my eyes too!), AC wifi, but no rear camera flash; also sells for ard $280-290
latest reports indicate X2 will be officially unveiled at MWC 2015, and if the path of X1 is anything to follow, stocks will hit the chinese market ard June this year, let's see what huawei brings to the party!
One phone I'd consider, is the Sony Xperia Z3 compact. Has an 8" scren, which is kind of in that it is the "compact" of the 5.2" "normal Z3..
One major improvement is that the headphone jack is waterproof even without being covered.
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One phone I'd consider, is the Sony Xperia Z3 compact. Has an 8" scren, which is kind of in that it is the "compact" of the 5.2" "normal Z3..
One major improvement is that the headphone jack is waterproof even without being covered.
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I think u mean the Sony Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact, that is the one having 8" screen; the Sony Xperia Z3 compact on the other hand has a 4.6" screen.
The tablet is a good device, but the price when compared to Huawei's, Lenovo's and Asus's offerings, is not that attractive if one is not looking for IP68 protection.
It is selling for abt $450.
The Sony Xperia Z3 compact which sports the same Snapdragon 801 chipset but with a lesser 2600mAh battery and half HD screen, is $25 less.
Oops! How could I have overlooked the tablet part.
Yes indeed, there is a premium to be paid for the name, IP68, and the extra inch.
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latest reports indicate X2 will be officially unveiled at MWC 2015, and if the path of X1 is anything to follow, stocks will hit the chinese market ard June this year, let's see what huawei brings to the party!
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I was thinking indeed that some march annoucement were a bit optimistic:
http://mobilewithprices.com/huawei-mediapad-x2-1707.php
Anyway, lot of spec. details in this link!

What replacement for my Mega 6.3?

I love my Mega 6.3. I previously had a Note2 (stolen), and when I changed, I loved the bigger, brighter screen. I was never using the stylus anyway so it was a global improvement to me.
My Mega is now getting old. No Samsung lollipop for it, and custom ROM's have often bugs. I'm now looking for a replacement for my Mega but can't find anything approaching.
Of course, I'm looking for an improvement : more power, more ram, better camera.
I'm really not encline to buy a smaller screen, but I'm not interested in QUAD HD either, more pixels meaning more computing power for the display, and then slower device and less battery life with not necessarily a better image, see for example latest iPhone devices with beautiful display and no quad HD.
But I certainly don't want to leave Android.
So what phone?
Galaxy Notes seem too expensive and too small for me. A simple calculation gives, assuming same screen aspect ratio :
6.3" to 6" - - > 10% less screen area
6.3" to 5.7" - - > 18% less screen area
6.3" to 5.5" - - > almost 1/4 less! (24%)
I would love to get some phone with the same outsize but with bigger display i. e. 6.5" meaning smaller bezels, 1920 × 1080 display, Qualcomm 8xx series proc or similar, 3 gigs of ram latest Sony camera, micro SD support, lte+ and more.
By the way, Sony Xperia Z ultra could partially do it, but case is really too big.
Do you have any suggestions?
Look at Huawei Mediapad X2... definitely bigger screen and better hardware. Unfortunately till now there is no international version of this unit. But people use Chinese versions...
Wait for Huawei Mate 8, expected release date is Q4 of 2015.
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Wait for Huawei Mate 8, expected release date is Q4 of 2015.
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Compare the prices...
Mediapad X2 is clearly to big for me.
Mate 8 could be a good competitor
I have no idea of the kirin950 performance. Seems not to be at thé level of Qualcomm's 8xx Series procs..
I've been thinking of nexus6, but max lum ils vert low, and price still quite high.
Yeah, me too.
I find it's gonna be hard when it's time for me to look for a phone that is comparable to this Mega.
F*** Samsung for not updating this phone. (Although I knew that this Mega would not get up-to-date given Samsung's business tactics.)
I would not get/recommend any Chinese brand phones if you do care about the company's and community's support.
However, I will be watching the upcoming Huawei Nexus. (But I do not have high hope for it to be something desirable personally.)
The size of X2 is not a problem for me - the bigger, the better ?. If I only could get it locally on my side without importing from China...
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You have a really tough choice as there isn't anything that comes to mind that slots right in. My girlfriend has the Mega 6.3 and her brother then got the Sony Z Ultra. It looked to be a nice and comparable phone. It is slightly bigger than the Mega but I think you would soon get used to it. The brother loved it. It can be had for a good price now but see if you can get your hands on one to play with. In some senses it is a bit of sideways move but you're not looking for something too advanced and you can get Lollipop for it. I think it's the only one that comes close to your personal prerequisites.

Xperia Ultra Z Successor............from Lenovo!!

Lenovo, just launched a new smartphone Lenovo Phab Plus, for around $400. As of now, it's only available in china, but will its way to online retailers soon.
Display - - 6.8-inch full-HD display - 1080 x 1920 pixel resolution. Pixel density of 326ppi,
Processor - 64-bit octa-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 615 processor
RAM - 2GB RAM.
Storage - 32GB
Sound - The Dolby Atmos Surround Sound
Camera - 13mp with dual led flash + 5mp selfie
Dimensions- 96.6 x 186.6 x 7.6 mm, weighs 220 grams
Choices-Comes in Metallic Grey, Midnight Blue, Neon Pink and Elegant Silver platinum colours
My view
I owned the lenovo vibe 2 and the lack of development really frustrated me, as the lenovo software was horrendous. Not sure, if times are changed. I guess if enough people buy this, we'll have some custom rom to work with
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EDIT:
Huawei, earlier this year had also launched Huawei P8max.
Similar specs to the lenovo phablet above, but P8max comes with 3gb ram.
specs in the photo attachedhttp://gadgetblaze.blogspot.in/2015/04/huawei-p8max-with-68-inch-display.html
615 is a horrible, overheating piece of crap, and Huawei's Kirin lacks any sort of dev love. Moreover, they are not advertised as flagships. Believe it or not, these devices will never get the popularity and dev attention like the ZU, unless they one day announce a partnership with CM.
It takes more than a big screen and sleek design to be called a “ZU successor”.
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615 is a horrible, overheating piece of crap, and Huawei's Kirin lacks any sort of dev love. Moreover, they are not advertised as flagships. Believe it or not, these devices will never get the popularity and dev attention like the ZU, unless they one day announce a partnership with CM.
It takes more than a big screen and sleek design to be called a “ZU successor”.
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"It takes more than a big screen and sleek design to be called a “ZU successor”."
Agreed. But it's widespread availability that made the ZU development so active. I don't see why the Lenovo can't get traction (with a $400) price tag if its made available in all major continents.
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How about double to triple the battery life
Sorry, but in my eyes, the Mediapad X2 is a real successor to the ZU. The Mediapad X2 now has also got its own forum ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-x2 ).
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How about double to triple the battery life
Sorry, but in my eyes, the Mediapad X2 is a real successor to the ZU. The Mediapad X2 now has also got its own forum ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-x2 ).
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Stock ZU has crap battery though.
I have held the mediapad x2, and though i love the display, and overall feel of the phone, it's really just a tad too big. I know the different on paper is small (ZY 6.4' vs 7') but the 7' tablet against one's face looks slightly retarded
I am thinking of buying the C5 ultra as my daily driver, with ZU has backup. C5U is 13mp+13mp camera with front/back flash!
It's 6' vs 6.4' on the ZU but small price to pay for flash, better front facing camera, and dual sim.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-c5-ultra/specifications/
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Stock ZU has crap battery though.
I have held the mediapad x2, and though i love the display, and overall feel of the phone, it's really just a tad too big. I know the different on paper is small (ZY 6.4' vs 7') but the 7' tablet against one's face looks slightly retarded
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Its just as the ZU. The X2 does look bigger, because of the 1cm but visually while making a call, there is little to no difference between the two. Both look like your holding a house brick near your head *lol*.
But who still uses a phone to call? *lol* ... A phone for me is emergency's / special stuff only. If somebody has something to tell me: WeChat, Mail, ...
In my opinion, if you go for ZU + C5, your probably going to use your C5 all the time and forget your ZU all the time. It becomes a hassle with two medium/big devices, especially if both are smartphones / drain batteries in a few days.
If you want a phone that does not look silly, just get a small Nokia dedicated phone that fits anywhere and last forever
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I am thinking of buying the C5 ultra as my daily driver, with ZU has backup. C5U is 13mp+13mp camera with front/back flash!
It's 6' vs 6.4' on the ZU but small price to pay for flash, better front facing camera, and dual sim.
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-c5-ultra/specifications/
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You do realize that the X2 also has 13mpix + flash
The Xperia C5 Ultra has a price tag almost idential to the X2.
But for the rest its behind in almost all aspects. In my opinion your better off just selling your ZU, pocket the cash and pay a bit more for a X2
Now: Keep ZU + 400 Euro for C5. Your ZU will probably not be used a lot anymore, as it becomes a hassle over time to deal with two medium/big devices that both need charging every few days.
Or: Sell the ZU for maybe 200 Euro. Buy a X2 for 350 a 400 Euro ( only 150 a 200 euro in reality ). Have one device with twice / triple the battery power of the ZU.
I know that you can argue that two devices ZU + C5 = double battery power but that argument does not hold water. If your ZU has 4/3/2G/Cell active, it will still drain a lot of battery, even when not used. Unless you want to constantly link your ZU to your C for data connection. Like that does not seem bothersome all the time
Anyway, my opinion. Join the Church of brotherly X2 love. Welcome my brother.
To sum up my opinions about the devices above:
Phab Plus: 615 is slow and overheats, and $400 is asking too much, even with a relatively big battery. History shows only flagship Lenovo devices get a little dev attention.
MediaPad X2: a feat to cram a 7 inch screen into a body like that, but 10% wider than the already unwieldy ZU, and the Kirin SoC instantly kills devs.
C5U: Sleek and more pocketable / hand-friendly than ZU, but while MT6752 offers performance similar to a SD800 device, paying another $400+ for marginal performance difference and (slightly) weaker dev attention isn't a good idea in my eyes. Unless you'll sell your ZU for it ;D
...which is why I said that the true ZU successor doesn't exist yet. Make compromises in aspects as you see fit.
And one last advice from a flashaholic: DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING OTHER THAN SNAPDRAGONS (and maybe Exynos's).
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AndyYan said:
MediaPad X2: a feat to cram a 7 inch screen into a body like that, but 10% wider than the already unwieldy ZU, and the Kirin SoC instantly kills devs.
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No offense but if you already consider the ZU unwieldy, then why are you even here? From your asking, you are better off in the Samsung Note forum.
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...which is why I said that the true ZU successor doesn't exist yet. Make compromises in aspects as you see fit.
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+1
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No offense but if you already consider the ZU unwieldy, then why are you even here? From your asking, you are better off in the Samsung Note forum.
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The ZU is at the verge of falling off my hand, but nonetheless with 1cm less it can still be carried (not used) in hand if I stretch my palm. That 1cm is a difference that crossed the threshold.
Also, yes I do prefer the size of the Note series to the 6-and-above category, but you know what, I enjoyed the Galaxy Mega 6.3 just as much as the Note 3. Nearly as much screen size as the ZU, and small bezels at all sides gives it high screen-to-body ratio and an even smaller footprint. In my mind this is how the 6-inchers should be designed.
Your mileage *will* vary though, because we Asians are known to have smaller hands
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Used to be a Lenovo whore but after the whole spyware crap and crap bloatware they add, I'm boycotting them... MEH.
A 7in tablet as a phone yes is stupid, a 7in phablet with no border is not.
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A 7in tablet as a phone yes is stupid, a 7in phablet with no border is not.
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Portable tablets with small bezels are always welcome, that's why I still kinda missed my Nexus 7 2013.
That said, Android tablets still need some bezels to avoid misidentifying touch events and to provide a better grip in landscape mode.
But with an oversized UI like that and full phone capabilities, I don't class the MediaPad X2 as a tablet.
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Just held the C5 Ultra today. Man, that's a well-built phone. Slightly smaller than the ZU (6 invs. 6.4in), and though i am very protective of my screen real-estate, I am actually considering the C5U. I can't imagine selling the ZU simply because of the amount of dev love it has received. I can use it as my 'guinea-pig' for the latest/greatest.
I can live with the absence of a flash (i have a really tiny external flash that plugs in the headphone jack), and the garbage camera (have an RX100 m2)
For me, 6.4-6.5 is really the most i can manage, as a primary phone. I am hoping to test out the P8 Max soon. My friend has it, and he says it's simply an amazing phone
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Just held the C5 Ultra today. Man, that's a well-built phone. Slightly smaller than the ZU (6 invs. 6.4in), and though i am very protective of my screen real-estate, I am actually considering the C5U. I can't imagine selling the ZU simply because of the amount of dev love it has received. I can use it as my 'guinea-pig' for the latest/greatest.
I can live with the absence of a flash (i have a really tiny external flash that plugs in the headphone jack), and the garbage camera (have an RX100 m2)
For me, 6.4-6.5 is really the most i can manage, as a primary phone. I am hoping to test out the P8 Max soon. My friend has it, and he says it's simply an amazing phone
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Yeah it's really amazing if you're coming from Z Ultra. It's an upgrade to every area of the Ultra and the updates are frequent compared to Sony.
The softwares are useful too. They have per app permission, optimisation like Greenify, etc all builtin so I don't really need to root the phone but I did anyway lol
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I'm thinking of giving up my idea of a +6in phone and hoping the Blackberry Venice is real. I'd sacrifice screen size for a physical keyboard. I can't believe I'm entertaining that idea though... How far we've fallen...
I just came across this thread on The Lenovo Phab Plus. I passed on the Ultra Z because of the lack of a camera flash which i really need for my tasks.
I'll post some info here for your reference. It may be OT
I just bought the Lenovo Phab Plus to test it out 7" phabs. Cost me around 330 usd in the Philippines and seems like a good deal. Build is good and feels like my Iphone 6 plus. This Phone is tall compared to my Huawei Mediapad X1
Antutu Benchmark v5.7.1 result
32123 Phab Plus
25731 Mediapad X1
35953 Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE
Camera quality is piss poor and video exposure is dark and contrasty. But i think software updates will fix that.
Hybrid Dual Sim slot I don't like. I sacrifice a sim slot for a microsd card. Huawei P8 Max is also Hybrid.
Huawei Mediapad X2 Is not hybrid.
Hi guys,
Looking to get a secondary phone. Question, is the Z Ultra still worth a buy, considering the lolipop update? Any performance numbers or whatever issues? Its between this and the C5 Ultra. I want a big display and sadly, the Zultra is the only decent 6.4inch display. Which is better? the MTK6752 or Qualcomms older SoC, in terms of gaming and overall user experience. THanks!
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Hi guys,
Looking to get a secondary phone. Question, is the Z Ultra still worth a buy, considering the lolipop update? Any performance numbers or whatever issues? Its between this and the C5 Ultra. I want a big display and sadly, the Zultra is the only decent 6.4inch display. Which is better? the MTK6752 or Qualcomms older SoC, in terms of gaming and overall user experience. THanks!
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If you ask me, I'd get C5U instead of ZU, mainly because ZU's touchscreen responsiveness has been hit or miss for me, especially under multi-touch scenarios. The bold appearance and slightly smaller footprint of C5U also counts. You do have to wait quite a bit for custom ROMs, if any, but MT6752 can fight on equal footing with SD800/801, the former being somewhat stronger in CPU but beaten in GPU.
Question is, isn't a second-hand ZU *much* cheaper than the still-fresh C5U? I bought my ZU second-hand for ~$120, while C5U still retails for $350+ here.
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If you ask me, I'd get C5U instead of ZU, mainly because ZU's touchscreen responsiveness has been hit or miss for me, especially under multi-touch scenarios. The bold appearance and slightly smaller footprint of C5U also counts. You do have to wait quite a bit for custom ROMs, if any, but MT6752 can fight on equal footing with SD800/801, the former being somewhat stronger in CPU but beaten in GPU.
Question is, isn't a second-hand ZU *much* cheaper than the still-fresh C5U? I bought my ZU second-hand for ~$120, while C5U still retails for $350+ here.
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thanks for your feeback!! i have decided to go for the C5 ultra.. hopefully all is well!! thanks man
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thanks for your feeback!! i have decided to go for the C5 ultra.. hopefully all is well!! thanks man
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Get the P8 Max, it's a much better deal compared with the C5.
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