Noise Cancelation with Sony SBH80 Bluetooth Headset - Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello XDA Community.
I'm planning to buy the SBH80 Bluetooth Headset from Sony. I saw them a while ago and I decided to give it a try and buy them. The only thing that I don't know if it supports native noise cancelation, like the headphones that were included in the package.
I think it should work since Sony uses the two microphones built in the included headphones to cancel the noise, and the SBH80 does have two microphones as well.
Does anyone know if they work as desired?
Thanks!
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I remember vaguely that z2's noise cancelling works only with MDR-NC13EM. But I could be wrong. You could try asking Sony directly, but customer care reps probably won't be very helpful considering the vast number of headsets and phones Sony makes. Sending an email would be a better idea. Best thing would be to borrow an SBH80 from a friend and see if NC works on your z2. If you find the answer, let us know as I was also considering SBH80.

The purpose of two microphones on SBH80 is for HD Voice (cuts out background noises and makes it easy to recognise voices) so it would not support noise cancellation.

sbh-80 is independent hardware/software so there is no possibility to make it works
...in HD voice this cancelation isn't for us -this is for those we speak to
z2 has special microphones in earphones and special processor for cancelation in phone
it will newer get works with this processor with bluetooth headsets becouse its need almost perfect 0ms latency to make rotate soundwave 180degrees
and bluetooth connection isnt so fast
if there any possibilities to make fuse the hd voice canceling thing works for music I think sony would implement that
maybe those two microphones are doesn't quality good as they should be
sorry for my poor english

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Xperia S Audio Quality Feedback

Guys post your opinions on the audio quality of the device and if possible also a comparison with your previous phones.
Thanks.
Already quite heavily discussed...
Disappointed. Don't like the headset at all. got replacement and it's fine and waiting for the smart headset to come out.well hopefully it'll be the best, I love listen to music and this time I'm really disappointed with Sony for sure. (Sad Face)
Why disappointed? Everyone knows that standard headsets are bad.
Use your own, be happy.
chesterr said:
Disappointed. Don't like the headset at all. got replacement and it's fine and waiting for the smart headset to come out.well hopefully it'll be the best, I love listen to music and this time I'm really disappointed with Sony for sure. (Sad Face)
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Can you expand a little - what exactly are you unhappy about? When you say you 'don't like the headset' - is it the sound quality or the ergonomics/comfort that you don't like? what aspects exactly are bad?
When we assess the audio performance of a phone, there are several separate aspects:
1. Audio output signal quality, i.e. the analog signal coming out of the phone jack. I would argue that this is superb, as can be witnessed by connecting it directly to a quality Hi-Fi system or high-performance headphones.
Has anyone noticed anything different in this respect - like distortion, noise or other defects? I haven't.
2. The audio quality in the main use of the device: as a telephone (unless we have forgotten that it can also make calls). Taken for granted most of the time, this audio quality was disappointing in my previous X10 - but on the X-S is significantly better. Call audio quality (including volume) is on par with the best phones I've used.
3. The sound quality when listening to music 'over the air', i.e. form the phone's built-in speaker. There are limitations how much loudness and/or bass you can extract form a tiny speaker in a tiny box - I hope nobody expects it to sound like a 500 Watt stereo system On speaker, the X-S is on par with the following models found around my household: Xperia X10, SE C905, SE C902, Nokia 5800. Differences are minor and, at this compromise level, not worth analysing. Subjectively, on built-in speaker the X-S sounds to me slightly but certainly better than the X10.
4. Audio quality via the standard headset provided in the pack. NOT (!) any extra /additional headphones - those are subject to your taste (and investment), see (1) above.
The kit headset is a hands-free unit optimised for making calls and not for music consumption. Yes, they certainly can play music (and many models do it decently, depending on the listener's audio culture and expectations) - but they absolutely must not be assessed and criticised as a musical device, they simply are not that.
Anyone who has the ears to hear the difference and values audio quality normally buys dedicated musical headphones. (Or already has them - as technology in them evolves slower than phones and they need less frequent 'updates'. I keep them over the life of 2-3 phones).
When we rely on the headset provided in the box, we voluntarily agree with the limitations - that those are a compromise, designed for making calls and also designed to minimise the cost of the bundle.
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I'd like to think that we all agree with the above logic. Please feel free to prove me wrong (with facts) on any aspect of it. In this light, I would like to hear:
- What aspects of the audio is @chesterr (and others) unhappy about?
- If Sony disappoints, who else doesn't? What are you comparing the X-S with? What is your example of the ideal mobile audio experience (straight out of the box)?
Anyone could recommend a headset at, at max 50 dollars, for listening to music that works on it. Cable at least 1 meter and has to be in-ear.
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Since my kplisch x10i won't work with the Sony @) I have gone back to my trusty denon ach 360's
Very nice warm sound in my opinion even though they are considered an older model.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/accessories/earphones/301807/denon_ahc360_review.html
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Using Soundmagic E10s with mine and have to say I'm impressed - easily on a par with my iPhone 4s for audio quality - sounds pretty neutral to me and more than adequate for a phone imho.
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Can you expand a little - what exactly are you unhappy about?
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Wow man you're promoting Sony or something I thought that I was doing that..
well It's Sony dude they should've done more better than this, I don't blame it but I don't like the headset.Okay If you're telling me to be happy with what I get for the price that I paid for, Okay then.
BTW I'm waiting for their new Smart Headset. and Hopefully it'll be better and yes the call quality is to the maximum comparing to the other devices and they've done a pretty good job with the equaliser and with the xLoud.But I feel like I'm not getting enough Bass. Anyways I hope Smart Headset will be out soon to get
Included earbuds are always crap. If earbuds cost less than €50/$75 they are crap by definition. I've heard the audio output quality of the Xperia S is brilliant and amongst the best of all phones ever made.
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they've done a pretty good job with the equaliser and with the xLoud.But I feel like I'm not getting enough Bass. Anyways I hope Smart Headset will be out soon to get
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Bass is very dependent on the headphones. I just tried on a pair of Sony MDR-EX81 and the bass is thumpin!
Tip: If you really wanna splurge, try the Sony balanced armature series...
I'm really impressed with the audio quality on the xs. I came from a Samsung Galaxy s2 which is a truly awful mp3 player.
The only criticism I can find with the Sony is that the highs and percussion are often more pronounced than vocals, but having said that the highs are very detailed and defined, and a pleasure to listen to!
This is the best performing phone for audio I have owned. That includes the Iphone 3gs...
Hi!
Could anyone compare the sound coming from the backside speaker to the Iphone 4 speaker output (music without headset).
Cause coming from the X10i and comparing to Iphone of my wife, x10i has a miserable sound (small tweeter behind speakerhole at the left side), Iphone4 has a much richer base when playing back music without headset.
Reading that SXS is "on par" with my X10i in that aspect is really not what i hoped to hear ....
Greetings,
Bax
Baxxx said:
Hi!
Reading that SXS is "on par" with my X10i in that aspect is really not what i hoped to hear ....
Greetings,
Bax
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Hi
When I compare the built in speaker of my XPS with my old x10 mini pro, the x10 mini pro has a better sound, but with stock hearphones I think XPS is better.
chesterr said:
Wow man you're promoting Sony or something...
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No, I'm not promoting Sony. Unlike Appleheads, I am not a blind fan - every time I am buying a new device I research all products in the market, from all brands and makers. I have a (rather complex) set of comparison criteria and carefully score all available options. The fact that my last few phones happened to be Sony (Ericsson) is not brand loyalty, they just scored top marks according to my criteria. As a rationally-minded (stupid engineer) I can only compare facts and measurable parameters. 'Cool' factor, fashion trends and media hype are not among my criteria - otherwise I always gave Apple a chance in my shortlists.
Talking of audio, I cannot completely ignore the fact that among all phone makers Sony is the only one that has been making audio equipment for more than half a century, including high-quality HiFi systems and components. That includes a (very) deep vault of patents, but more important - a wealth of experience and expertise that no other phone maker has, and no 'think different' genius can easily replace.
Talking about cameras (sorry about straying off-topic for a moment) - apart from Samsung no other phone maker has any experience in making 'normal' cameras, and even they started much later and excel at the cheaper end. Sony have been making (photo) cameras longer and long before that they were making professional TV cameras used by every major broadcaster in the world. That counts for some (deep) understanding of electronic imaging that no one else has. In fact, Apple respect this and have chosen not to reinvent the steam engine, but have built a Sony camera in their phone. There can hardly be a higher recognition.
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No 'Sony-heads' and blind fans here, just noticing objective facts and using my head, not my 'heart' (or other body parts).
To everyone in this forum (you must already have Sony phones, since you are here?) - and on topic: Enjoy the Sony sound, it's objectively better than others!
Sony actually include the package with livesound in malaysia .
The best bounded earphone i ever have inside phone box for the phone i brought .
Having moved from an iPhone 4 to the Xperia S I would say that the audio quality is ok but nothing special.
Listening through decent headphones (Klipsh Image X10s) the Xperia produces a good sound but I don't think it is as good as the iPhone. It is perfectly serviceable but the iPhone does a lot better in my view, especially with lossless files where you can really hear the difference on the iPhone and on the Xperia it is marginal at best compared to 320Kbps mp3.
I've no complaints about the Xperia and it beats the iPhone in most other respects but I think audio quality is an area where it could be improved.
I guess it comes down to the quality of the DACs used within it. Sony's audio experience may help but it cannot compensate for lower quality audio circuitry at the end of the day.
The output is also noticably louder on the iPhone and the Xperia may struggle to drive some headphones at a decent volume level. Its ok with mine but I find I am using 85% volume on the Xperia to get the same sound level as my iPhone running at around 70%.
Great phone though.
The sound quailty of the phones speaker is good.
The bundled headphones are poor.
The sound output via analogue is okay but not great.
The call quality is very good.
I moved from iphone 4 to xperia arc to samsung s2 to samsung note to xperia s.
Xperia arc's noise level is too high and both samsung s2 and note sounded too soft.
If lack of low frequency is not a concern to you, iphone obvious has a more open and detailed mid-range frequency reproduction (e.g. vocal voices). However, I still prefer XS for the more balanced sound.
output volume from XS is too low... hope it will be fixed by firmware upgrade.
anyway, XS is the best music player among all mobile phones i've ever had.
btw, I am using Shure 425 earphone and 840 headphone.
I don't think xs has good quality of sound indeed, I heard that there is a deficit for android or Qualcomm chips dealing with 48k (or 44.1k sound ). I am not sure about it but the default music player does improve music quality a lot.
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[Q] MDR NC31E - alternatives?

Is the Z2 compatible with any other noise cancelling earphones besides the MDR NC31E?
I picked up a pair of these seperately (with the option to return). They are pretty nice so far (still wanting to test in noisier env) but @ $70 +tax i feel like i want to compare other alternatives...
the MDR-NC31E's are special because they themselves aren't noise canceling, they just have built in microphones, and the Z2 does the noise cancellation. Other noise canceling headphones have the technology built into the headphones themselves, and are universally compatible as long as it has a 3.5mm jack.
Could be working on Headphones which have Stereo Microphone ... But I've never heard about Stereo Microphone Headsets before ...
This might only change if Sonys Technology gets copied by other Vendors ... Would be great, cause it makes this technology open to the masses and much cheaper, while you can still choose to use the same headphones without NC.
se1000 said:
the MDR-NC31E's are special because they themselves aren't noise canceling, they just have built in microphones, and the Z2 does the noise cancellation. Other noise canceling headphones have the technology built into the headphones themselves, and are universally compatible as long as it has a 3.5mm jack.
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yeah i guess that was my real question, if there were other vendors out there making earphones with stereo mics. on the ears no less heh.
fat chance of that i guess.
Bose quietcomfort 15 is the way to go if you live headphones with noise canceling.
unfortunately my Z2 doesn't comes with the noise cancelling headset and just the regular cheap low-quality headset, any alternatives or any specific models you can recommend?
DrearierJester1 said:
unfortunately my Z2 doesn't comes with the noise cancelling headset and just the regular cheap low-quality headset, any alternatives or any specific models you can recommend?
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Sony MH1C is a great headset if you don"t mind noise cancelling.
nreuge said:
Sony MH1C is a great headset if you don"t mind noise cancelling.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I actually came across with this one. Hopefully the Mic will work. Its a Razer Hammerhead Pro In-ear Headset for Gaming and Music.
Source: http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-audio/razer-hammerhead-pro

[Q] Z2 active noise cancelling?

How would you rate the Z2 active noise cancelling?
Would be my ONE buying argument.
Thx
G.
gue22 said:
How would you rate the Z2 active noise cancelling?
Would be my ONE buying argument.
Thx
G.
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10 points on a scale of 10.At work a loud machine is producing a monotonous noise,this is reduced to approx. 10 % of its original level by the active noise cancelling without music on,only insert the earbuds and switching on the phone kills 90 % of this noise.After you switch on the music you can barely hear the monotonous noise.Only one of many reasons to buy this fantastic device.
brouwerchris said:
10 points on a scale of 10.At work a loud machine is producing a monotonous noise,this is reduced to approx. 10 % of its original level by the active noise cancelling without music on,only insert the earbuds and switching on the phone kills 90 % of this noise.After you switch on the music you can barely hear the monotonous noise.Only one of many reasons to buy this fantastic device.
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Thanks a ton!
Does anyone have comparative experience with the Bose Quiet Comfort 3 (on ear) or 20i (in ear)?
gue22 said:
Thanks a ton!
Does anyone have comparative experience with the Bose Quiet Comfort 3 (on ear) or 20i (in ear)?
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Noise cancelling works with supplied earbuds MDR-NC31EM,two microphones in the earbuds feed the noise cancelling software in the Z2,
I don't know if there are more headphones available working with this system,the 3.5 mm jack should have 5 instead of the standard 3 rings.
With my Sennheiser MM100 bluetooth on-ear headset the Z2 sounds great,only without the noise cancelling.
I've tested it on my office with AC and at home with centrifuge in the other room (washing machine).
Unfortunately, I can't say I'm impressed with the results. Need more testing tomorrow...
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I'd give the active noise cancelling a 9 out of 10 when paired with the Sony MDR-NC31EM headphones. With the volume turned up to a normal level I can't hear myself typing on my keyboard, or doing the dishes, or my cat meowing for treats, or my wife talking, or pretty much anything other than my music unless I reeeally listen for it. The sound quality of the NC31EM isn't the best, but it's far from the worst. It's definitely better than any headphones that came with previous cell phones. Before I got my Z2 I refused to use noise cancelling because I thought it unnecessarily tampered with the sound quality and would only wear my Grado 325, Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10, or Shure SE530 headphones. The Z2 & NC31EM is a very good combo for most listening occasions.
gue22 said:
Thanks a ton!
Does anyone have comparative experience with the Bose Quiet Comfort 3 (on ear) or 20i (in ear)?
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I have QC15, which is similar to QC3. I haven't had a chance to test them side by side on a plane after purchasing of this phone.
However, in day-to-day life, z2 and QC15 produce similar results as far as I can tell. To be honest this is the only reason why I thought about buying Z2 and switching to android from an iPhone.
I first thought tgis thread is about the microphone noise cancelling when I call someone
For me both work just fine.
The headphones are small and cant perform like a bose but for those small earbuds I give them a 9 of 10.
They cant cancel (completely) the noise of train or a loud street but for music it works fine
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Noise cancelling works with supplied earbuds MDR-NC31EM,two microphones in the earbuds feed the noise cancelling software in the Z2,
I don't know if there are more headphones available working with this system,the 3.5 mm jack should have 5 instead of the standard 3 rings.
With my Sennheiser MM100 bluetooth on-ear headset the Z2 sounds great,only without the noise cancelling.
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Before release I read that one would have to buy the MDR-NC31EM (a fourth contact on the 3.5 mm jack for the second mic) as an extra, but I guess competitive pressure made them appear out of the box! <g>
Don´t know of any other special headset like that.
Think Sony spilled the marketing beans on this feature. Almost no reviews mentioned this unique feature, and when they did, then practically only in passing.
Anyone who has a commute on public transport should check out active noise cancelling headphones! I love ´em. Filter out ambient noise and loud people with idiotic conversations. <yippih!>
jeremy.shi said:
I have QC15, which is similar to QC3. I haven't had a chance to test them side by side on a plane after purchasing of this phone.
However, in day-to-day life, z2 and QC15 produce similar results as far as I can tell. To be honest this is the only reason why I thought about buying Z2 and switching to android from an iPhone.
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I´ve been owning the QC3 for almost two years and they are great.
I was a bit p*ssed when the cable developed a problem after a little more than half a year, but when I hit the right guy at the local Saturn / Mediamarkt here they swapped it without a tone. (The incompetent one before told me we´d need to return the whole gadget set and my answer was: "No, you will have to pry the QC3 from my cold, dead fingers. I rather buy a cable at whatever Bose price!" And you know that´s quite a statement! <rofl>)
For this summer I bought QC20i and was awed that the in-ears cancel out more than the on-ears!!!!! I only hope the cabling lasts longer than that of the IE2 I owned before!
So Sony lost out for now, but I may "need" another Android gadget soon. Who knows... <g>
House of Cards said:
I first thought tgis thread is about the microphone noise cancelling when I call someone
For me both work just fine.
The headphones are small and cant perform like a bose but for those small earbuds I give them a 9 of 10.
They cant cancel (completely) the noise of train or a loud street but for music it works fine
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Actually - as said above - the Bose QC20i in-ears cancel out a lot more than the QC3 on-ear ones with the passive dampening advantage. And the QC3 sound a bit murky while the QC20i got brilliant heights even WITH active noise cancelling -- which is said to hamper quality.
And they QC20i work w/o NC with a dead battery. Well, they oughta, cuz you can´t swap the battery. The teeny tiny spare battery for the QC20 was 50 bucks!
So the jury is out again who will be the next winner.
Guess the QC20 will earn their keep as double-duty ear warmers for winter.
The QC20i for the rest of the time for ALL mobile gadgets.
The Z2 waiting in the wings as a possible replacement for the iPhone. (Watch out, Apple!)
Or the next gen with Bluetooth AND active noise cancelling.
Having fun
G.
Problem is I don't get any noise cancellation. For example, now I hear crickets. Putting earphones in my ears and having phone detect and use NC, nothing has really changed. I've tried both NC modes (one with music sign and one without)... turned on youtube video, still nothing. The only benefit is from earphones actually being in my ears, but the same effect I get with regular $40 earbuds like QuadBeat 2.
I wish if I could somehow test if there is maybe a problem with my earbuds, but so far - effect is nonexistent.
I never owned any noise cancelling headphones before the Sony MDR-NC31EM so i can't compare.
They don't cancel out every small noise. So if i am home and there it is relatively quiet i don't notice much difference when enabling the noise cancellation on the z2.
However if the TV is running, driving by train etc. the difference is huge. It can still be heard but it is not annoying anymore when hearing music.
at work with some normal monotone cooling sound from PCs the noise is also nearly completely reduced.
I am not sure but i think the noise cancellation does not work very good for a higher pitch noise. So maybe your crickets do make a too high pitch.
Also one thing i once noticed was when the train door closed with a very loud bang i got a loud crack sound on my headphones which was not really great and really frightened me in that moment. I guess that was just too loud and suddenly to cancel out.
I would say for the price it is a definitive 10/10 if you own the Z2. But i am not sure if more expensive headphones can cancel more.
Using it with my notebook however does not work as it seems it cancels the played sound out again.
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Problem is I don't get any noise cancellation. For example, now I hear crickets. Putting earphones in my ears and having phone detect and use NC, nothing has really changed. I've tried both NC modes (one with music sign and one without)... turned on youtube video, still nothing. The only benefit is from earphones actually being in my ears, but the same effect I get with regular $40 earbuds like QuadBeat 2.
I wish if I could somehow test if there is maybe a problem with my earbuds, but so far - effect is nonexistent.
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If you don´t immediately hear the difference on a plane or train or tram there is something wrong.
Crickets are not exactly the best example. Low frequency continuous street noise is it, not the single car.
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However if the TV is running, driving by train etc. the difference is huge. It can still be heard but it is not annoying anymore when hearing music.
at work with some normal monotone cooling sound from PCs the noise is also nearly completely reduced.
I am not sure but i think the noise cancellation does not work very good for a higher pitch noise. So maybe your crickets do make a too high pitch.
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I would say for the price it is a definitive 10/10 if you own the Z2. But i am not sure if more expensive headphones can cancel more.
Using it with my notebook however does not work as it seems it cancels the played sound out again.
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TV is a still better use case than anything else. If I don´t want to be distracted by some series my girl friend watches I put on the Bose, turn on music and turn away from the TV -- and I got my island.
Guess it would take a lot more processing power to catch the higher frequencies and the higher I guess they are harder to match and cancel out.
Interestingly the in-ear QC20i dampen most, but I don´t think they dampen (much) more than what I heard from a very brief test with the Sonys.
What goes for the Bose QC20i is the above use case: Hook ´em up to anything / the notebook and cancel out the anything else / TV. You can´t do that with the Z2 buds.
But the QC20 are almost half the price of a Z2.
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But the QC20 are almost half the price of a Z2.
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Thats not true.
At least here in Germany if i look up the QC20 they cost 279 € !!! compared to 38 € of the Sony headphones.
Ohh i see you meant the Z2 itself. Sorry. I was talking only about the headphones supported for the Z2. Of course the phone itself is more expensive.
So far I had no result with:
- air conditioner
- crickets
- street noise (typical city noise coming from the outside, I don't expect it to cancel police/ambulance, but noise certainly)
- friend's PC cooling (my PC is silent under 30dB)
- blue switch mechanical keyboard typing
- coffee shop
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what else to test?
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So far I had no result with:
- air conditioner
- crickets
- street noise (typical city noise coming from the outside, I don't expect it to cancel police/ambulance, but noise certainly)
- friend's PC cooling (my PC is silent under 30dB)
- blue switch mechanical keyboard typing
- coffee shop
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what else to test?
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Are you sure you have the noise cancelling headphones with the Model-Name "MDR-NC31E" ?
Because there where headphones in my package. But they didn't supported noise cancellation and had a different model name.
beowulf6 said:
Are you sure you have the noise cancelling headphones with the Model-Name "MDR-NC31E" ?
Because there where headphones in my package. But they didn't supported noise cancellation and had a different model name.
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I hope I don't look that dumb... :cyclops: - yes, of course, MDR-NC31E. Even the phone auto puts those in "noise cancelling headset" mode. There are two icons then (3). ON, ON with ♪ next to it and OFF.
Check this, not even this is reduced. Not a tiny bit. http://www.coffitivity.com/
Strange? Disappointing...

What headset are you using?

So, I'm currently using the Bose QuietComfort 20 with my beautiful Z3 and aside from the stellar audio quality, I'm thinking of getting something else. I don't like the rectangular block on it and find that I don't use the noise cancelling as much as I thought I would. Perhaps because I'm typically using them while on the streets of NYC, and fear that if I cancel outside noise, I'll quickly become road-kill.
This leads me to my question - what is the best headset out their that still takes advantage of the phone's built-in audio settings (yes, including the noise cancellation)? My guess is that you need to use a Sony headset to be able to use the NC built in to the phone, and while I won't be a big user of it, for those rare times, I'd like to have the option. For my own purposes, I prefer in-ear/ear-buds.
So, what say you? What is the way to go? Let's perhaps offer suggestions with price not a factor, and another suggestion that considers cost.
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
I use an MEElectronics M-Duo costs $50-60 but performs as good as many $100+, has very good reviews everywhere.
Its not very noise isolating, but its makes up for it in every other way. It can also take a lot of abuse. I prefer this to my $100 Bose IE2 earphones.
XDA member review.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2476918
If you want noise cancelling, try this:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en.../digital-noise-cancelling-headset-mdr-nc31em/
I use sbh80 headset, but not much noise cancellation there. otherwise I use my shure's se215. I love my shures.
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I use an MEElectronics M-Duo costs $50-60 but performs as good as many $100+, has very good reviews everywhere.
Its not very noise isolating, but its makes up for it in every other way. It can also take a lot of abuse. I prefer this to my $100 Bose IE2 earphones.
XDA member review.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2476918
If you want noise cancelling, try this:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en.../digital-noise-cancelling-headset-mdr-nc31em/
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Thanks guys! I guess the question is, what functionality built into our Z3's do we lose when using non-Sony headsets and does it make it worth it to purchase one of the headsets listed within the device? The other question, is why are only those Sony headsets listed (see attached)? They make many other ones, some being highly rated!
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There's a scrolling mod for the 26th build.
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HTC used to do the same during the Beats era, it justs sets an equalizer tuned to those Sony headsets, if I am correct.
When I want in-ears, I use Beyerdynamic MMX102IE. They work very well with the Z3 - great sound quality, bass and volume. If I'm going to listen to a podcast or something similar in a noisy environment, I'll use the MDR-NC31EM for the noise cancellation. The latter are good, especially for the price, but they are not as good as the Beyerdynamics for music.
I also use the Beyerdynamic Custom One Pros. They sound awesome, but sometimes I would like more volume from them. I do have a Fiio E6 that I can use them with if I really want to, but it would be nice to get some more power out of the phone. The sound quality is excellent.
Well, I purchased a pair of Degauss Noir's. Should arrive next week and am looking forward to letting y'all know all about them! :good:
Xiaomi Piston 2 works fine with the Z3 (unlike my old Nexus 4...). I can't get the FM radio to work properly though, anyone have any luck?
Marshall Minor for music or original Samsung
Im using STH80 and bass are really good. Midrange is somehow weak
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I have SBH20 for daughter, SBH50 and Beats Wireless.
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Sony XBA-H1
Westone UM3X ... a bit expensive but worth it...
Xears 4 Core Hybrid, i used Xears XE200Pro before and 3 of my friends using it now, Xears are amazing!
a-Jays five.
With working volume buttons.
Really like it :good:
Bose SoundTrue Galaxy version.
It works 100% (all three buttons) with LG G3 and Sony Z3 (tested).
Bose QC20 noise cancelling, super comfortable, superb sound quality, but pricey
Sony SBH 52
mingkee said:
Bose SoundTrue Galaxy version.
It works 100% (all three buttons) with LG G3 and Sony Z3 (tested).
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So, based on your comments, I wet out and bought a pair of the SoundTrue Samsung Galaxy version. The middle button only increases volume or if I triple-click, it will skip to next song (while boosting volume 3 clicks). :crying: Not sure why it words for you and not for me - are you using the D6616 version? I cannot imagine this makes a difference, but maybe?
Thanks.

How can i get the most audio quality and volume out of Z2 ?

Hi all
my brother just bought LG V10 and the sound quality is great and so was mine until i started listening to music with V10
i know it has an extra sound chip but i really think that Z2 has the potential to be that good too
the question is how can i get the most audio quality with Z2 ?
which headphones do you recommend ?
i have the standard MH410c headphones that were in Z2 box , should i get the noise cancelling headphones ?
is there any software modification i can do ? (i currently use stock firmware but its rooted)
I bought the noise cancellation earphones and they are really good. The sound it's really great for me.
There are 3 things you can do as far as I know
-> Buy a better set of headphones
-> Buy a dac
-> Use software such as viper4android or sound mods.
In my opinion, you should start by fiddling with the software because a good pair of headphones is pretty expensive, and so are most dacs out there
Mokiwipeout said:
There are 3 things you can do as far as I know
-> Buy a better set of headphones
-> Buy a dac
-> Use software such as viper4android or sound mods.
In my opinion, you should start by fiddling with the software because a good pair of headphones is pretty expensive, and so are most dacs out there
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what headphones are recommended with z2 ?
sony noise cancelling ? or can i buy a pair of good yamaha headphones and expect improved quality too ?
Mokiwipeout said:
There are 3 things you can do as far as I know
-> Buy a better set of headphones
-> Buy a dac
-> Use software such as viper4android or sound mods.
In my opinion, you should start by fiddling with the software because a good pair of headphones is pretty expensive, and so are most dacs out there
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About DAC - if you want to use it, you should use digital connection between phone and DAC. How you gonna to do that? As far I know the only way to do that is connection by Wi-Fi or Bluetooth but if you choose A2DT you loose quality. I don't know any DAC with Wi-Fi connection. In iPods you just make line out cable and than connect DAC by that. I really want to know any line out before amplifier in Xperia.
Sound mods are good enough for speaker, but it's can't do better sound on poor headphones. Start with that. Of course you can try some mods, but I think, and I'm telling that as drummer and sound engineer, that can't really help. Built tools in our phones are just enough.
I recommend to try AKG K518. But if you want in-ear headphones you can try noise canceling sony ear buds. But that's one have a lot of high frequencies and built-in equalizer haven't enough bars to equalize it. I was using a lot shure E2C and ultimate ears fi but that's IEM (in ear monitors) so that's have nearly flat frequencies response with cut-down high frequencies.
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regarding bluetooth headset, Z2 supports APTX, which should make wireless audio via bluetooth sounds better. Of course, the headphone must supports it too.
If you are listening to mp3 files I don't think it's worth to get expensive earbuds. Just the Sony NC earbuds with Viper4Android FX. Guaranteed soundgasms!
You can use DAC with usb otg connection. I'm using Hifiman HM-101, you just need to connect it and it works. Sound quality and loudness of it is much better then internal Z2 sound chip.
Im using HTC Sensation XE earphones and the sound is very good. Depends on what music you listen to and do you like clear or bassy sound. These are christal clear, I turn off all sound enhancements and get really good experience.
Zspitter said:
what headphones are recommended with z2 ?
sony noise cancelling ? or can i buy a pair of good yamaha headphones and expect improved quality too ?
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Well, you are going to spend a lot of money if you want to buy a good pair of headphones...
Probably more than 50€...
Plus, the headphones that came with the phone are pretty sh!tty, save for their noise cancelling feature, which in my case is fairly useless anyway.
However, if you are intending on buying expensive headphones, make sure that they have either a fairly low impendance, or get a dac. The phone might not be able to drive the headphones, it is somewhat common with truly expensive headphones.
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About DAC - if you want to use it, you should use digital connection between phone and DAC. How you gonna to do that? As far I know the only way to do that is connection by Wi-Fi or Bluetooth but if you choose A2DT you loose quality. I don't know any DAC with Wi-Fi connection. In iPods you just make line out cable and than connect DAC by that. I really want to know any line out before amplifier in Xperia.
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As another one said, there are USB OTG dacs too
But they are fairly expensive as far as I know
I use AKG Y50BT with APTX. Just a suggestion.
The basic earbuds without noisecanceling that come with the z2 have a terrible quality, Sony should be ashamed of themselves to include such worthless junk with a flagship product.
I bought the noisecanceling ones lately, just to try as they are for less than €30 including shipping on amazon and they do sound a lot better.
Still, earbuds and good sound quality just don't go together in my humble opinion. Although I have never tried high end earbuds, the sound of big 40 or 50mm headphones is just so much fuller and more complete that I cannot imagine those tiny things capable of that.
Plus that over ear models are a lot more comfortable if you listen for longer periods.
Use Xtreme music mod
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