Okay maybe I only have 2 questions lol
First off I currently have a note 3 and am as happy as I've ever been with a phone. It does it all, blazing fast, multi window, a feature to shrink the screen for one handed use, great battery life, stylus, and a bunch of dumb features crammed in software wise that I don't care for but who knows, maybe I'll use one of them someday and appreciate it. Nothing wrong with them being there when I can turn them off.
However, I STILL HATE TOUCHWIZ. It makes me want to jab my eyes out whenever I look at it or hear that stupid water droplet sound. I am running a touchwiz 4.4 build, so its the best touchwiz you can get on a phone currently and I still hate it. This is my main motivation for wanting to switch. (On a side note have you guys seen the touchwiz build for the new note tablets? Wow, what a beautiful build they have. If thats a sign of things to come then touchwiz will finally get away from the crap software that looks like it came from the playskool factory). I also think the build quality is just average, although the best I've seen from samsung yet.
The build quality on the sony is literally on another level and with the water proofing and dust resistence it really is a work of art. That coupled with stock android and it seems that you can't go wrong with this phone.
Or can you? One thing the note 3 does beautifully is the multi window feature and use of a gesture to shrink the screen down when wanting to quickly select buttons you normally wouldn't be able to reach with one hand. I went looking for similar features for the xperia because I just can not live without them now that I have them. I found an exact xposed module match for the multi window and from the reviews its flawless or pretty close to it. I wasn't able to find the shrink screen gesture but I did find another xposed module that will allow you to move portions of apps down the screen more so that you can access info more easily with one hand. It just uses padded areas to move things down. Not as good as what the note offers but its something. These two litte things and the advantages of stock android are all I need as far as the software goes.
As for the hardware, you lose half the onboard storage, a gig of ram, an IR blaster, a small amount of battery, and an LED flash. Stock android probably negates the loss of ram because bloated touchwiz probably consumes that as soon as you boot the phone up. The LED flash is probably used twice a year for me, I've never used the IR blaster, and I have a memory card and cloud storage for those needs.
Heres the ONLY thing I need form the community. I see people posting a lot about how amazing the phone is and how they got used to the size within 3 days and it's awesome and this and that. These people also had only had the phone for a week or two so the excitement hadn't worn off yet and they are probably blinded by new-device-ism. What I would love is if someone who has had this phone for over 6 months can comment on the size. I am particularly concerned with it fitting in my front jeans pant pocket. I won't use a case so it will just be the bare phone. Right now my note 3 is seriously pushing the limits. It fits but when I sit down the top of the phone is actually touching my lower abdomen because the pockets aren't deep enough to accomodate the whole phone. I don't want this thing jamming into my side every time I sit down. Also I am mildy concerned about flexing the phone and breaking the screen. Thats honestly the only two concerns I have with it.
Let me know what you think!
I had mine since september.
Okey about pocket. DO NOT sit down with your phone in the pants pocket. Just don't. Either the device will bend or the glass will brake.
IF the phone is sitting tight in the pocket when standing up, DO NOT walk. Take the device out or it will bend or break the glass.
The front and back WILL eventually get scratched because there is a plastic sheet on both sides. Without this the phone is nearly unable to be scratched. I just got my first tiny tiny scratch on the front last week. Its so tiny you can barely see it. The hardness is of the glass is like sapphire glass!
And what you wrote about the size. Just like they say. Once you buy this you'll never go back. Literally.
SÜPERUSER said:
I had mine since september.
Okey about pocket. DO NOT sit down with your phone in the pants pocket. Just don't. Either the device will bend or the glass will brake.
IF the phone is sitting tight in the pocket when standing up, DO NOT walk. Take the device out or it will bend or break the glass.
The front and back WILL eventually get scratched because there is a plastic sheet on both sides. Without this the phone is nearly unable to be scratched. I just got my first tiny tiny scratch on the front last week. Its so tiny you can barely see it. The hardness is of the glass is like sapphire glass!
And what you wrote about the size. Just like they say. Once you buy this you'll never go back. Literally.
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Well if I can't walk around with it in my pocket then I may not purchase it. Thats my only means of carrying it around with me. We will have to see what happens I guess. And I wonder what the deal is with the plastic sheets, thats kind of lame. I see that people are removing them to expose the glass underneath, but then they lose the oleophobic coating and it will probably be a disgusting fingerprint magnet.
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Well if I can't walk around with it in my pocket then I may not purchase it. Thats my only means of carrying it around with me. We will have to see what happens I guess. And I wonder what the deal is with the plastic sheets, thats kind of lame. I see that people are removing them to expose the glass underneath, but then they lose the oleophobic coating and it will probably be a disgusting fingerprint magnet.
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Yes it is a fingerprint magnet. However I purchased G1 & G4 ClearVision Screen kit. This is a rain repellent chemical aimed for cars but it works the same way as a oleophobic coating giving that silk smooth surface.
http://gtechniq.com/shop/3s-for-cars/kits/g1-g4-clearvision-screen-kit/
Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gtechniq-G1...ssories_Car_Care_Cleaning&hash=item3a878b8b16
It takes several weeks for the chemicals to bond to its final state and I applied this sunday afternoon. Today its pretty good. Very close to any other phone. Its very smooth.
I have only used it on the front but I might as well apply it on the back some other day.
I have to be honest this sounds totally cumbersome and lame. I'm going to search now about the scratches. You had yours a pretty long time and you say you onlt got one little scratch after all this time? Doesn't sound horrible to me...
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I had mine since september.
Okey about pocket. DO NOT sit down with your phone in the pants pocket. Just don't. Either the device will bend or the glass will brake.
IF the phone is sitting tight in the pocket when standing up, DO NOT walk. Take the device out or it will bend or break the glass.
The front and back WILL eventually get scratched because there is a plastic sheet on both sides. Without this the phone is nearly unable to be scratched. I just got my first tiny tiny scratch on the front last week. Its so tiny you can barely see it. The hardness is of the glass is like sapphire glass!
And what you wrote about the size. Just like they say. Once you buy this you'll never go back. Literally.
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WHAT?!
Don't walk? Don't sit?
I walk, sit, go up and downstairs with my Ultra on my jeans pocket no problem.
DrKrFfXx said:
WHAT?!
Don't walk? Don't sit?
I walk, sit, go up and downstairs with my Ultra on my jeans pocket no problem.
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How long have you had it? Right now I'm mre concerned with the scratching mentioned above. I am searcing but am not finding much concerning the sratches. Any scratches on yours? How's it holding up? Thanks in advance.
DrKrFfXx said:
WHAT?!
Don't walk? Don't sit?
I walk, sit, go up and downstairs with my Ultra on my jeans pocket no problem.
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it depends on whats kind of jeans you have..you feel it when its too tight. I take no risks anymore ...almost cracked my phone once.
Also look up the other threads here on XDA about bending the device and cracking the glass
SÜPERUSER said:
it depends on whats kind of jeans you have..you feel it when its too tight. I take no risks anymore ...almost cracked my phone once.
Also look up the other threads here on XDA about bending the device and cracking the glass
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I only use slim fit jeans all the time. Not super skinny jeans, but tight jeans. And no problems.
How long have you had it? Right now I'm mre concerned with the scratching mentioned above. I am searcing but am not finding much concerning the sratches. Any scratches on yours? How's it holding up? Thanks in advance.
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2 month maybe. I come from a Xperia Z.
I have mine ALL SCRATCHED UP. I mean like totally scratched, even the camera lens is scratched. None that I'm specially concerned with. Just remember it's the plastic cover that scratches, the glass is a bit more resistant.
No abuse, just normal use. Leaving it on the table while charging, specially when I didn't have the dock, caused the most scratches.
I don't use cases, they make ginormous an already ****ing big phablet.
Okay so at the very least I'm going to need to remove the plastic protector and get a glass screen protector on it. Hopefully there are some quality ones that have a nice oleophobic coating on them.
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Okay so at the very least I'm going to need to remove the plastic protector and get a glass screen protector on it. Hopefully there are some quality ones that have a nice oleophobic coating on them.
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I used for about 6 month also had for my experience, i think i may be used a little on the hard side...always in my pocket whatever i walk, stand, run, sit, crouch, sit with leg crossed and everything maybe...and it still ok...take note cause i use all kind of pants and jeans...well i take it out sometimes... I also had dropped it twice when i sleep..the phone just dropped from my bed but i used a nilkin case...but it still survive so far eve though with case..
About the screen, i got one scratch on sony factory shattered proof screen protector and that's because i dumb enough to use metal keys to try on the screen and make 1 cm of scratch...because i can't live without Sony logo to be removed if i remove the shattered proof screen protector, i paste on top of it another high quality screen protector on it...so far it still survive till today and i enjoyed every little thing about it...i like to use it bare without the case but maybe I'm not brave enough to do it cause i always think it might fall from my hands...because the thinnest of this thing is crazy thin...in a good side that is...i like to use it bare but in my home only and not when i work...but someday maybe....
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I use a protector on both sides and so scratches are not a problem for me. Also, if you want to keep it in jeans, i suggest buying a comfy book cover. I have one and so i can take it everywhere and anywhere without worrying about breaking it.
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I got the first real scratch on my aftermarket screen protector after 6 months, although I do have a flip case. What do you guys do to your phones?
Back to subject on hand. I jave mine in my pocket when walking, but do take it out when I sit/drive etc. If you have the note3 in the pocket then the ZU should be ok.
I've had my Ultra 6 months. I can fit it in the front pocket of my jeans no problem, but if I'm wearing skinny jeans it may be a little uncomfortable to lift my knee above waist height. Due to the height of the device coupled with the sharp edged design, it ends up stabbing you in the groin. I mostly notice it when running up staircases 2-by-2.
It's not a massive problem though, with the right pair of jeans it's absolutely fine to go on a hike/climb with the phone in my front pocket. Obviously cargo trousers are no problem, and if I'm wearing more formal attire I usually just stick the phone in a jacket pocket. YMMV.
The screen protector thing isn't ideal, but it's not a massive issue in reality. Personally I hate the feel of plastic under finger, so I removed the protector on mine before it ever even got scratched. It's a ballache of a job, it took about 2 hours to do but that was months ago and it's a distant memory now. Without the cover, the phone is a fingerprint magnet but this is very easily mitigated by using Rain-X once a month or so.
It sounds bad, as obviously this isn't something you need to deal with at all with other phones but it's really not. No matter the phone, you're going to want to thoroughly clean the screen at least once a month anyway. Only difference with the Ultra is that after getting it super clean you apply Rain-X, which is an extra 60 second job. A bottle of Rain-X costs about £6, and I still have at least 90% of the bottle left after a good few months.
The other major downside to the Ultra is of course the piss-poor camera. Personally I don't mind as I rarely take pics with my phone and when I do it's usually in good light, but make no mistake about it: The Ultra's camera is total wank.
Other than that, it's a brilliant phone. Mega fast, mega reliable. I use the ported GPE rom on mine, and it's been totally rock solid for months. The stock Sony rom however is also very good - nothing like Touchwiz. The screen is amazing. The battery life is great. It throttles much less than the Note 3 when pushed hard and so is probably the quicker phone in the real world. I'm using the pure 3G (C6802) variant in the UK on three's mobile network, and it has the best signal strength and data transmission rates I've ever seen. I've hit 23Mbps on a couple of occasions, and regularly hit over 20. It's likely to get an official GPE rom of Android 4.5/5.0 quickly too, which is something to look forward to. It's the best phone I've ever owned, I'm mega happy with it. The only thing I want from the Z2 Ultra is smaller bezels to get a physically smaller phone with the same size screen.
Oh, and if you do decide to get one, make sure to get the docking station charging cable on eBay. The waterproof flap for the USB port is a PIA, and can break if used too much.
Hope this helps.
screen protector (plastic) horrible! Otherwise awesome
I have mine since beginning of december last year. I realy love the big and brilliant screen with accurate colors. For me its the best thing of this device. I realy realy love this screen. Be aware there seems to be different screens for the same model! Never checked which screen i got.
[I changed from Samsung S2 (i9100) which i realy like. But everytime i look at the ugly oversaturated colors at my S2 im getting mad. Then there is the AMOLED burn on the S2 which drives me crazy.]
What realy sucks is the screen protector (plastic) on the glas and the nonexisting LED. It get scratched very easily! Especially in comparison to gorilla glas At least in my case. I already bought a replacement glas (about 15$, ebay hong kong) but hadnt the time and patience to replace it. After using it for about 6 months i would suggest putting a extra glas on before you get the first scratch on the screen protector because peeling of the protector seems to be a pain in the... and buying a new glas and replacing it is cheap and easy.
The camera is only good in bright sunlight. Otherwise it justs sucks in my opinion.
My Trousers have big pockets so i can slip the Z Ultra in my front pockets and walk and jump around without any problems. Otherwise you should think how to carry it around before you buy it. Especialy if youre thinking about putting it in a case. If you hold it in the hand it and twist it it will bend!
If the device would be half an inch smaller (width) i could use it only with one hand! But i have long fingers. So on the go sometimes i wish it would be a little bit smaller. But just a bit.
You can get spare battery and back cover (with glue already attached) on ebay. So you can seal the device after opening it and it should be waterproof again!
I use Incipio Watson as a cover and protector (use google, dont have enough posts to link).
pro:
-very robust
-can remove phone from cover but its still in protector.
-if you drop phone some of the eneregy will go into seperating cover from protector. So phone becomes more sturdy on drop.
-its vegan. if youre in to that
con:
-big / huge
-cant use magnetic charger
-no magnet for holding cover closed. instead it has a band which just sucks.
-imo ugly in comparision to a naked z ultra
TL;DR:
owning since aprox. 6 months.
just freaking AWESOME
pro:
-big
-screen
-screen
-screen
-fast
-water proof
-metal case
-sd slot
con:
-big
-camera
-no led
-plastic screen protector (scratches easily)
-glas at the back (who the hell designs those things? Never heard of "Form follows function"?)
-speaker not realy loud (due to water resistance)
Personaly i could have only get a better device if would have built it myself
Go Project ARA!
The last 2 response are absolutely fricken amazing. ESPECIALLY from stiggy. Sounded like I wrote that myself. Great responses thank you.
Do they make glass screen protector that are thin and come with oleophobic coatings pre installed? If so would you consider them to be of OEM quality? Like if I put one on would you feel like you're using a stock screen? I was thinking of placing it over the top of the plastic layer instead of going through all the headache of removing the plastic film.
search for tempered glas z ultra
seh6183 said:
Do they make glass screen protector that are thin and come with oleophobic coatings pre installed? If so would you consider them to be of OEM quality? Like if I put one on would you feel like you're using a stock screen? I was thinking of placing it over the top of the plastic layer instead of going through all the headache of removing the plastic film.
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search for "tempered glass z ultra" on e.g. ebay
yes
dont know but i think better then plastic
yes
i would do the same if i hadnt scratched mine already. maybe touch sensitivity will suffer.
seh6183 said:
Okay maybe I only have 2 questions lol
First off I currently have a note 3 and am as happy as I've ever been with a phone. It does it all, blazing fast, multi window, a feature to shrink the screen for one handed use, great battery life, stylus, and a bunch of dumb features crammed in software wise that I don't care for but who knows, maybe I'll use one of them someday and appreciate it. Nothing wrong with them being there when I can turn them off.
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may I ask why you want the GPe? The Sony version is available for the same price from their website and it seems like there is much more support from the XDA community for that particular model.
SÜPERUSER said:
The front and back WILL eventually get scratched because there is a plastic sheet on both sides. Without this the phone is nearly unable to be scratched. I just got my first tiny tiny scratch on the front last week. Its so tiny you can barely see it. The hardness is of the glass is like sapphire glass!
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Without the cover, the phone is a fingerprint magnet but this is very easily mitigated by using Rain-X once a month or so.
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So both of you removed the ASF and didn't put anything over the top of the bare glass? Except you used Rain-X, stiggy, to serve as an oleophobic-like covering? Why didn't either of you put a tempered glass protector over the top?
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So both of you removed the ASF and didn't put anything over the top of the bare glass? Except you used Rain-X, stiggy, to serve as an oleophobic-like covering? Why didn't either of you put a tempered glass protector over the top?
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Why would I want to put something like that on my phone....
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So... On my phone i always use those plastic film thingies because a smartphone is something that i take everywhere with me and put it in different locations like pockets, backpacks etc. Other stuff can be in those pockets so scratches are definately a possibility. I just dont feel comfortable without it and they dont bother me at all while using the phone.
But on a tablet like the prime its a whole different story. When I use it I sit somewhere, comfortably and safe. When i take it with me it's in its neoprene sleeve. Also i usually take the dock with me, and when its docked the screen is automatically protected...
The Prime has even Gorilla glass so i dont plan on putting anything on it. This is my first tablet so you guys may have more experience with it... Your thoughts? The glass feels just so awesome to the touch, i dont think a protector can replicate that.
So do you plan on putting a protector on it?
Btw1: i really dont care about scratches on the back^^ It gives the device some personality! Its the same with books for me. Hate it when they are new and shiny. Feel free to comment on that as well
Btw2: Maybe this thread should be in the Accessory forum? This is a general discussion though - i think? Mods, do what you have to do.
I was thinking the same about the screen protector, but the IPS feels so good that i think I'm just going to get the sleeve.
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i bought one and it was near impossible to get it on without dust or something under it. thats a huge area to try to get dustless even in just a few seconds
i havent been using one, i just rub my tfp against whatever cotton shirt i might be wearing, that cleans the screen and i havent had any scratches.
i use a leather folio style case, so the screen is usually covered for the most part, i just use my shirt to get finger prints off lol
I have a dry application crystal clear screen protector and I love it mostly because it doesn't collect fingerprints and smudges as easy and is easier to wipe clean if anything this is worth it alone plus you don't have to worry about a accidental scratch somehow.
I don't and won't be using one. The tablet has gorilla glass and is very durable. My phone also has it and that goes all sorts of places and has remained scratch free. Considering my tablet is only at home loose otherwise always in the dock which then goes in the neoprene case, I have no desire to put one on and am not going to worry about it.
Prime has gorilla glass. I don't have one n my screen looks great. Veryyyy scratch resistant. Plus it cleans off so easily with the included cloth. All screen protectors do is degrade screen quality n throw off touch response.
http://gizmodo.com/5880520/stop-ruining-your-phone-with-a-stupid-case
no phone/tablet is designed to be used with a cover/skin, except iPhone 4
im glad my galaxy s2 is "free" after having a cover for 2 weeks..
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I know the link is about cases, but still think its in the same categori!
I took my prime down to the invisible shield stand in the mall to get a screen protector. hen I got there they said because the device was so new they didnt have anything for it. But because it was a TFP the guy offered to custom cut one for me.
Say what you want, but I got mine done without even a fleck of dust under it and it offers no distortion of my screen, nor do I notice any sensitivity loss. Not only that but I find its way easier to clean.
Besides who knows whats gunna jump out of nowhere and try and scratch your screen.
screen protector I have does not throw off sensitivity at all I was worried it would but it didn't just as responsive.
It may be false sense of security, but I have the skinomi protection on mine. Just in case. The screen is beautiful and I don't want anything to happen to it.
Yes. I liked the feel of it better without the screen protector. But I've not noticed any degrading of color, etc. There are 2 specs of dust that got underneath that are driving me MAD and that may end up being why I take it off, maybe. But overall its better because no finger prints and less worry.
But not as nice to touch
I've had my desire for nearly 2 years and there isn't a mark on the screen dropped at a few times too, great big dent on one corner but no scratches. Them corner protectors but probably a good idea but not worth trying to get a screen protector on.
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I use a protector, feels as good as the glass screen.
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i bought one and it was near impossible to get it on without dust or something under it. thats a huge area to try to get dustless even in just a few seconds
i havent been using one, i just rub my tfp against whatever cotton shirt i might be wearing, that cleans the screen and i havent had any scratches.
i use a leather folio style case, so the screen is usually covered for the most part, i just use my shirt to get finger prints off lol
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Take a shower and install the screen protector in the bathroom when it is still humid. Works like a charm to install screen protectors dust free.
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Guys, I want to bring this to your attention so what happened to me doesn't befall you:
The Gorilla Glass, while tough, can be scratched quite easily under the right conditions. I was in a thread a few weeks agao, being all smart (like my Username, LOL!) saying that a screen protector was a waste. a) Because they make a beautiful screen something "less beautiful" b) that they are difficult to place on the glass properly, and c) My biggest pout: Anything that is sharp enough, hard enough, and strikes with enough force or velocity to scratch, chip or otherwise damage Gorilla Glass will likely not have any less impact from a piece of plastic between the glass and the projectile.
In other words, if something is going to damage the hardened glass, how is a decidedly super thin piece of plastic going to stop it?
In retrospect, I was very wrong, or at least partly wrong. That very night my daughter sat with me playing games on the Prime. We played a few games together: Where's my water, and similar. Then I played Need For Speed, and then she played Fruit Ninja.
When I went to clean all the 11 year old finger prints off, I noticed what looked to be scratches in the glass. At first I thought it was just debris from sticky fingers, but no... it was... HOLY **** THE GLASS WAS FREAKING SCRATCHED RIGHT THE **** THROUGH!!!!!!
Seems she had a cheap metal ring on, with a split back that lets you adjust the size. By holding the tablet in portrait, and not hard or in any way roughly, she scratched the glass on the right side of the camera, a 1" wide SET of scratches, not one or two, but a swirl of perhaps 12 or 15 scratches that were deep enough to be basically impossible to remove.
I tried to see if there were any methods to polish this out. including seeking help from a glass polishing co, and optometry tools and materials. All advised against it, and the amount of sanding, and polishing needed would have put an obvious "dent" in the glass that would make it no longer true or flat.
Fortunately I had insurance, and for a $125 deductible I was able to replace the unit. Lesson (a huge one) learned. Lesson I am trying to pass along? BE CAREFUL. Check EVERYONE who uses the the tablet to make sure they have no rings or jewelry. If a screen protector makes you feel more comfortable, b all means get one, and keep it on there, there are two types, the rubbery "sticky" ones that I hate, since your finger stick and won't slide on it very well, and the harder, shinier material (actually comes in an anti reflection satin finish too I believe).
No matter what you decide remember, if something looks like it could scratch the glass, don't take chances with it. better safe than hugely sorry. Also, while Gorilla Glass IS scratch resistant, it is NOT BREAK RESISTANT. When I saw the damage to my screen, I admit, I actually was close to tears... No ****.
Be careful out there.
Thx for your input man So i guess if i ever have a daughter i get an iPad to play games with her. It'll be fun to watch how she takes it apart and scratches it all over the place.. MUAHAHAHHAHAHhahhaaaa!
In a word: Yes.
Not so much for protection though but to minimize reflections and fingerprints.
While losing a tiny bit of sharpness and color the display is much more readable under any circumstances. No need to "wash" off fingerprints every 10 minutes, no need to hold the tablet so no lights are reflected right where I want to read something onscreen.
I use this one:
http://www.danto.de/onscreen-schutzfolie-fuer-asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-typ-non-reflecting.html
Since a tablet screen is much bigger than that of a smartphone applying it has to be done cautious and calm. To get rid of any particles between screen and protector I used TESA stripes to pull the protector off a bit and then another one to remove the particles.
Good idea with the shower, though.
demandarin said:
Prime has gorilla glass. I don't have one n my screen looks great. Veryyyy scratch resistant. Plus it cleans off so easily with the included cloth. All screen protectors do is degrade screen quality n throw off touch response.
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I concur. A screen protector isn't necessary for normal use. Also, you might have some issues docking it with a protector on.
i dont see any point to use screen protector, its not small device like regular cellphone which may be accidently put in same pocket as your keys and therefore scratch your screen. I use mine mostly with dock, so when its closed its protected by dock, and while not having it docked i use leather case from ebay. And afterall it has gorilla glass should be durable
IMO, no, it does not need one, but it never hurts to be safe. I've no case for mine yet, and am about to have a Skinomi skin to throw on it, and have been using it for only three days. My screen is perfect, I'm a neat freak and keep it spotless, keeping a cloth on hand and using a stylus. However, a case/skin for the back most certainly is needed if you don't like scratches. I don't mind them, my phone is covered in dings and scratches and gouges, but the screen is fine with a protector.
In short, no, it doesn't really need one, but yes I'll be using one. Damned if I'll accidentally hit my jacket zipper too hard or something retarded.
Like the above poster said, does it NEED a screen protector, no. But lets be realistic, people give gorilla glass way too much credit thinking that its invincible. If the tab is always in an immaculately clean place, then you have nothing to worry about. But a lot of dirt particles also have tiny particles of sand in it, which easily scratches glass. Key tests are just useless propaganda. Its little sand particles and other small minerals found in dirt that will scratch your screen, which is how most peoples phone screens get scratched without them realizing. Dirt and dust are everywhere. But if you're careful enough, you can minimize the issue. Personally, I spent $500 on a device so I feel an extra $10 to protect the screen against scratches and preserve resale value isn't much to ask. Also, Skinomi has a screen protector that has a cutout for the dock, I highly recommend it,its super clear.
Long story short, you don't need one if you're going to be careful enough. But don't fall for marketing hype and think that gorilla glass is indestructible. It actually marks up pretty easy (especially if theres a coating on top of the gorilla glass). I put screen protectors on my devices so I don't have to baby them. If i'm always worried about scratches, I can't fully enjoy it.
Hi everyone,
Was wondering what your opinions were on a case and screen protector. I'm using a Zagg InvisibleSheild right now with the silicon-based, glossy case that Verizon offered when I bought my phone (the Zagg I bought later on). My only gripes are that the case feels like a grease magnet, and, while the I don't mind the looks of the screen protector, it is anything but smudge-resistant. I had an anti-glare screen protector with some plastic hard-shell case combo on my old IP4, and loved them.
What do you guys suggest? I can't seem to find any good anti-glare screen protectors out there, at least on Amazon anyway. Are there (relatively thin) cases that cover the power button like the volume rocker, to make it easier to press?
Thanks!
I had such a hard time putting on those screen protectors when I had my original Motorola DROID that i'd never buy those things again. It's not worth the trouble it takes to put them on without getting annoying bubbles underneath, or when they get dirty/worn around the edges and start coming back off.
I remember asking a Verizon employee to put them on when I bought some extra ones from them in-store and after I watched them fight trying to get one on good I said nevermind these things are junk I don't want them. They don't help with touchscreen response either.
In my experience I think screen protectors are the biggest waste of time (for protection) - The only real benefit is it can sometimes make the screen feel easier to touch and less fingerprints.
I am a very active phone user. I have an SGS 3 for business and DNA for daily use. I have also owned lots of high end smartphones. The only time I ever used a screen protector was with a business original iPhone 3G (was already on) after it becoming annoying to me I ripped it off. Not once have I ever encountered scratches that I can notice without having the screen off and on some crazy angle with with a completely blank screen. Yes there are extremely light scratches that are only noticeable under these angles but anybody upset about this is simply nitpicking or being a princess.
I used to work for a Telco company dealing with repairs and I can tell you this much. If your screen is going to get a deep scratch from something it won't matter if you use one or not, however if you are always taking your phone to the beach and rolling around in sand, filling your pockets with sand and jamming your phone against the granules then a screen protector might reduce the impact. Other than that it is a complete waste of time when it comes down to protection.
I also think it is absolutely ridiculous when people try to argue this and show me there phone with a screen protector on it covered in tiny scratches. Firstly screen protectors (Unless you buy glass ones) are going to scratch easier than the your screen, but the funny thing is, people actually leave the protector on with these scratches present and don't seem to complain about the look of it? 90% of people I know never change their screen protector and it totally defeats the purpose of having one if it is more scratched than what it would be without one.
What do you think that when you sell the phone that you will pull that screen protector off and suddenly the phone is worth more money because it doesn't have those tiny scratches that nobody can notice? In most cases you are selling an outdated phone and considering I have sold hundreds of phones second hand, the last thing people are worried about with a second hand phone is turning the screen off and examining minuscule scratches on weird angles. You do realise that people actually have the screen on when they use the phone?
So my advice to anybody who uses or is looking to use a screen protector is if you think this is going to save your phone against "noticeable scratches" then you are 100% wrong - If you use one that reduces fingerprints, has a likeable sensitivity and you like the look and feel of it than I understand, that is simply your preference and I can respect that. In any other scenario I think it is time to grow a pair and rip that stupid thing off and try it for yourself.
Pros:
Might reduce light scratches directly to the screen that you would need to search for on certain angles with a blank screen, lol
If you roll in sand you might have a reduction in the depth of the scratch
Some people prefer the feel of a protector
Some might offer less fingerprints
Cons:
Makes screen duller, even if some offer 99% clearness it is still duller
Can reduce screen sensitivity
Unless you put it on perfectly it will be noticeable due to peeling up, bubbles, dirt or just the plain visuals of the material
If you have paid for it than you have most likely wasted your money
As for cases, the best protection with the least bulk would be one of the TPU cases with the S design on the back. You can get better protection but it will be twice if not thrice as bulky
I can definitely see where you're coming from with the screen protector. My main reasoning for using it is the feel, and, if I can find a decent one, a way to reduce fingerprints.
Any recommendations on cases? The Diztronic series seems to be rather popular, but it is very similar to what I have right now, which does anything but deter any kind of grit and grease.
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I can definitely see where you're coming from with the screen protector. My main reasoning for using it is the feel, and, if I can find a decent one, a way to reduce fingerprints.
Any recommendations on cases? The Diztronic series seems to be rather popular, but it is very similar to what I have right now, which does anything but deter any kind of grit and grease.
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I have used Diztronic in the past and they are above average. I would still say that the best case so far I have used for my phone would be the Ballistic cases
On the left is the front of my cases and on the right is the back
The 3 on the top starting from the left are Qmadix White/Grey and Purple/Grey These cases are FANTASTIC for protection. They are half silicon and half solid plastic, you can actually flex and bend the cases and they spring back, they are a very tight fit and the indentation on the sides make it easy to grip when you need to access the power button, which is nice and easy to press in and they also help when you're using for anything 1 handed.
Then you have the Ballistic LS series in Grey which is probably the best protection you will get for this phone for it's size. The only part that is large is obviously the corners, they are oversized silicon with a solid hard cap deliberately for cushion landing and they have a great track record for drop tests as it is usually the corner impact that does the most damage, it does however look a bit dorky. Down the bottom is also a Ballistic this time in Black and it's the Shell Gell regular. Overall this case feels the best for comfort and button pressing vs overall protection. The Qmadix cases are on par but just a little bit harder on the buttons, keep in mind they are a slimmer fit. Next we have a clear S design TPU case which offers great protection for it's size, however the power button is very hard to press in unless you get it perfectly square on and it just doesn't feel as nice in the hand, it is very slim.
The last case is the Poetic Palette which offers the worst protection out of all of them as it is designed only to be a barely there case. It doesn't cover the bottom or top of the bezel and it doesn't wrap around the edges. I have shattered 2 screens using this style of case and I wouldn't recommend this to anybody. I didn't even order this case, I actually ordered the Poetic Atmosphere which looks fantastic but they sent me the wrong case
I am constantly changing between all of these cases besides the Poetic Pallette which I didn't even want and the Grey Ballistic with massive corners as it is just too weird looking. All of the others are fantastic and I would rate them like this
Ballistic Shell Gel + Qmadix are a tie. It's hard for me to settle on just 1 lol.
Clear TPU is great but not as comfortable so it comes in second
Keep in mind I AM A VERY ACTIVE SINGLE HANDED USER! I drop my phone at least a few times a week
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I always put an invisible shield on my phones (even though many people don't like them) mostly so if it does get scratched I can "un-scratch it" with a $5 warranty replacement OR when I go to sell the phone it's still perfect for the next person.
If my screen protector gets scratched I can fix the problem in 3 days for $5. If my glass screen is scratched it's going to cost me at least $100 to fix.
cc16177 said:
I always put an invisible shield on my phones (even though many people don't like them) mostly so if it does get scratched I can "un-scratch it" with a $5 warranty replacement OR when I go to sell the phone it's still perfect for the next person.
If my screen protector gets scratched I can fix the problem in 3 days for $5. If my glass screen is scratched it's going to cost me at least $100 to fix.
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If you sell your phone still as a current model in new condition then it might work in your favour. As my comment suggests earlier, this bothers very few buyers when they purchase a second hand phone. I used to sell refurbished handsets all day every day. Light scratches are not noticeable unless the screen is off and you hold it on an angle. If you get a scratch deeper than this it won't matter if you have a screen protector or not, it's going to scratch the same.
I have seen way too many phones with evidence of this due to the nature of my profession. However, some people are very picky when it even comes to these light scratches (Which are more like minuscule clear marks) even on their CD's and Movies. Some also believe it is far nicer to swipe the screen with a protector on! - I personally can't stand the feel and look of them. Nothing like riding bareback
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If you sell your phone still as a current model in new condition then it might work in your favour. As my comment suggests earlier, this bothers very few buyers when they purchase a second hand phone. I used to sell refurbished handsets all day every day. Light scratches are not noticeable unless the screen is off and you hold it on an angle. If you get a scratch deeper than this it won't matter if you have a screen protector or not, it's going to scratch the same.
I have seen way too many phones with evidence of this due to the nature of my profession. However, some people are very picky when it even comes to these light scratches (Which are more like minuscule clear marks) even on their CD's and Movies. Some also believe it is far nicer to swipe the screen with a protector on! - I personally can't stand the feel and look of them. Nothing like riding bareback
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Yeah I sold my Galaxy Nexus for $220 in about 3 days because it was still in perfect condition. It's also mostly just about the fact that scratches annoy me and i'd rather be constantly changing screen protectors than to look at it lol
I actually think the ones from Verizon aren't too bad at all. They aren't edge to edge, but because of the curved glass, this material probably can't be. It covers the screen and buttons, doesn't take much away from the screen, and is cheap peace of mind. That's not to say they're the best out there. But they're cheap and readily available.
I do sometimes think about going naked, both on the case and the screen protector. One the one hand, I've always liked the idea that a $4-10 piece of plastic is taking the abuse, and I can easily rip it off and replace it when needed. On the other, the plastic will actually scratch more easily than the glass. So just because our screen protectors end up with scratches on them does not necessarily validate the need to use them. Some of those scratches on the screen protectors wouldn't have happened on the glass. But some certainly could have, so it really comes down to how much you care about scratches and how much risk you want to take.
I have learned that a screen protector is good the hard way.
I carry a small flashlight on my beltloop and i tuck the light into my pocket, well the flashlight is harder then the glass and it will put light scratches on it.
An otterbox case will do everything you want. It comes with the best screen protector I've ever used and it makes the power and volume MUCH easier to push. It also makes the phone nearly indestructible and is fairly priced IMO. I really hate screen protectors as a rule butt the otterbox wasn't too bad. I did eventually remove it from the case though.
I went with a Qmadix case which was recommended, thanks for giving recommendations for it. The power button is much easier to use.
By the way, does anyone have any positive experience with a tight fitting case and screen protectors? Particularly a screen protector that doesn't bubble up around the edges with this or a similar case?
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I know it's lame, but I got the soft silicone case from Verizon for $15 and I've dropped my phone multiple times with no problems at all.
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Seidio just came out with an active case for the dna. It isn't the thinnest, but the kickstand on it is very high quality to match the rest of the case. I just received mine an couple days ago and have been very happy with it so far. It's similar to the commuter otter box, but with an added kickstand and better feeling materials. Very protective as well.
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I know it's lame, but I got the soft silicone case from Verizon for $15 and I've dropped my phone multiple times with no problems at all.
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Hah, I do have that case which I just came off of.
There are two small gripes I have with it, one being the power button is even more receded with that case, and the other being that I didn't like the greasy feel it had (at least for me). This Qmadix case I'm using now has a nice grip to it, and the power button is beveled like the volume rocker cover; it doesn't give that "cushiony" feel when I sit it down like the silicone case, though... It adds some thickness to the set as opposed to the silicon case, but not that much. It almost has an Otterbox look to it but, considering I've never owned an Otterbox, I believe it is still quite thinner.
I sort of solved the bubbling of my Zagg screen protector by reseating the case; that being said, I nearly tore my phone in half removing the case. Some of the tabs started popping up which held the front face onto the phone. Yikes! Guess I should've been a bit more gentle. It snapped back together without problems, thankfully.
Is there a case that offers as much protection as say the silicon case at Verizon, but has a built in kickstand on the backside?
Just got this case in the mail today, sort of seidio activeish but minus the kickstand. Worth the 5 bucks I spent but my old lady has the note 2 and active case, the fit around the buttons is crazy different. Very loose and sloppy on my apex case
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first thing I did was buy a case and a screen protector but I like the naked phone so much, I opted for insurance instead!
Since owners have had the phone a for a bit longer now, I would like some feedback on those screen protector choices you have made.
Basically what I want is the common things:
*As invisible as possible.
*Smooth feeling to the touch is preferred.
*easy to apply is a plus
*I prefer to not remove the sony one already there.
So I was looking at M.glass, other ebay glass ones and then my usual choices like Zagg HD the case friendly version for the plasticky ones.
So what is working out for you guys?
I bought one off of ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/261323055474?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649. It feels nice when you put it on. I got something stuck under it though so if you are installing one make sure your phone is perfectly clean. I like the feel of it better than the normal screen. It was hard to install well for me but probably not as hard as I made it out to be. I had it perfect but removed it to get the thing from under it out and that is where things went wrong.
Thats my problem too when installing myself..always some dust gets in somehow. I am thinking on trying to install inside the bath tub or something after running the how water for like 10 minutes to see if that helps...seriously lol
shaolin95 said:
Thats my problem too when installing myself..always some dust gets in somehow. I am thinking on trying to install inside the bath tub or something after running the how water for like 10 minutes to see if that helps...seriously lol
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i have the Armorz Stealth Extreme R on mine. a bit on the pricey side but i love it. I also have one of the ebay ones for the back glass. both were put on over the stock sony screen protectors. on the back piece, i actually soaked the back of the screen with a spray bottle before applying it. It was a pain in the ass pressing out all the bubbles, but it looks flawless after a bit of elbow grease.
I have Glass-M front+back for mine and I absolutely love it. (Removed factory ASF as well). My notes
* It is really smooth. Like freshly made toffee it is so smooth it feels faintly greasy (but it is not). On an almost completely flat table the phone will slowly slide across the surface by itself due to a slope you can't see (be careful)
* I believe touch sensitivity is improved. Finicky DPI sliders in Paranoid Android setups give me no trouble now - before jumping 239,243,241 when I really want 240 dpi exactly. Pencil also works perfectly as a stylus.
* I believe screen brightness and clarity are improved. Subjective and probably due to removal of the ASF (and its invisible tiny scratches)
* Extra glass makes the phone a bit thicker but also much stiffer and I liked this. I also have a Z1 and I miss how solid that phone felt in my hand. Ultra always felt a bit too flimsy (bendy). I also had to widen the slot on my DK30 (sandpaper glued to a flat stick aka big emory board)
* Getting alignment correct is tricky - glass-M slightly smaller than the phone screen edges. Mine went on crooked but I can live with that.
* No dust or bubbles in mine. Used the shower trick of old school film photographers. Long hot steamy shower will effectively clean the room of even tiny dust particles.
* Removing the ASF is a truly harrowing experience (see the other thread). Halfway through you *will* have an "Oh God what have I done" moment. Still totally worth it.
Hope my ramble helps someone. In summary really happy with the Glass-M. :good:
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Thats my problem too when installing myself..always some dust gets in somehow. I am thinking on trying to install inside the bath tub or something after running the how water for like 10 minutes to see if that helps...seriously lol
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Haha yeah I took it off and it made it way worse... ended up being a waste of money which has been happening a lot since my phone had been sent back for repair. I have wasted so much money. But yeah I bought another one and got it a couple of days ago but have not opened it. I will install it right when my phone gets back.
So when you guys go dual glass (front and back I mean) do you just carry it without a case? I mean, when I remove mine from the case it just feels SOOOO good to hold, like the case makes it feel not as ergonomic even though you will think is just one flat object
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So when you guys go dual glass (front and back I mean) do you just carry it without a case?
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Glass-M Front+Back and I carry mine "au naturel". Four weeks of sliding in and out of pocket + keys, coins, cig. lighter etc with no marring or scratches. Seriously it feels way better in my hand than the factory finish: smoother, bit thicker (2x 0.25mm glass + adhesives is a lot on a 6.5mm phone), and far more solid. Absolutely love its handling after placing the extra glass.
Downsides are metal sides will eventually pick up scratches and dents and also I don't like the proximity sensor cutout: messes with the Sony design and makes it look like everybody else's iPhone/Samsung/whatever with slots cut into the front of the phone. I don't believe the cutout is necessary for that sensor to work. (could be wrong about that)
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Glass-M Front+Back and I carry mine "au naturel". Four weeks of sliding in and out of pocket + keys, coins, cig. lighter etc with no marring or scratches. Seriously it feels way better in my hand than the factory finish: smoother, thicker (2x 0.25mm glass + adhesives is a lot on a 6.5mm phone), stiffer and more solid. Absolutely love its handling after placing the extra glass.
Downsides are metal sides will eventually pick up scratches and dents and also I don't like the proximity sensor cutout: messes with the Sony design and makes it look like everybody else's iPhone/Samsung/whatever with slots cut into the front of the phone. I don't believe the cutout is necessary for that sensor to work. (could be wrong about that)
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yup. I carry it without a case now. feels super classy. picked up some weight from the dual glass but I'm not worried about scratching the screen compared to using the phone fresh out of the box.
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Ah you guys are going to make me join the nudist colony!
Well I got too many cases already on the way but they will live in the car to be used when required, but for the most part I love the feel of it naked....and we are still talking about phones just before someone locks the thread
Does the glass go all the way to the edges of the phone? Like if I use one of those cases that go just above the screen (if those will even fit which I doubt) will it make the glass come off?
I guess I should just not use a case but gosh I bought a couple of nice ones already LOL
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Does the glass go all the way to the edges of the phone? Like if I use one of those cases that go just above the screen (if those will even fit which I doubt) will it make the glass come off?
I guess I should just not use a case but gosh I bought a couple of nice ones already LOL
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incipio feather worked with front glass. it worked with back glass too but feels super snug.
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Thats a very nice looking case...I just wish they would have left the charging port open..kind of strange they did not make a cut for that :/
Well, I guess I use it without a case at home and at work right now anyway since with my case it wont fit on the DK30 but still, if I were to use a single cable, that case wouldnt let me charge.
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Thats a very nice looking case...I just wish they would have left the charging port open..kind of strange they did not make a cut for that :/
Well, I guess I use it without a case at home and at work right now anyway since with my case it wont fit on the DK30 but still, if I were to use a single cable, that case wouldnt let me charge.
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I modified the case to leave opening for magnetic charging port. some use a dremel. I used a razor blade. came out looking how it was supposed to be, but since I got the back glass, I don't use it anymore. lol
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yeah maybe I bought cases for decoration now LOL We shall see.
I just thought of one possible issue if I get the Glass-M vs getting a single one for the screen only....I want to get one of those extended batteries case combinations.
So if I get that, I am pretty sure it wont fit with the Glass-M but maybe it will fit if I only get one glass for the front?
I'm getting my glass-m protectors today. I'll post my opinion tomorrow some time
Cool!
I got one of the front glass only protectors from ebay. Still waiting for it to arrive to see if I can deal with it.
I should have gotten the Glass M but I dont feel like modding the DK30 which I will probably have to do anyway
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Cool!
I got one of the front glass only protectors from ebay. Still waiting for it to arrive to see if I can deal with it.
I should have gotten the Glass M but I dont feel like modding the DK30 which I will probably have to do anyway
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Got my Glass-M protector yesterday put it on this morning. It works great. Its' pretty comparable to the spigen tr I had on my S4 maybe a littler thinner. It includes the front and back glass protectors, rear camera cutout was perfect. The front appears to cover the camera. There is a cutout for something to the left of the camera but I'm not really sure why. Maybe I am misunderstanding the layout? Luckily it laid down well enough that its not causing any distortiong.
It actually feels nicer and seems more fingerprint resistant than the stock bare screen with its ASF film. It's an expensive kit but considering both front and rear protectors are glass it seems like its worth the money to me.
Shipping was also really fast considering it came from hong kong....about 5 days.
So I ended up trying this glass one:
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The feeling and quality of the image is so pristine compared to my previous regular plastic like protector!
I did have to sand paper the DK30 a bit to make it fit but all is good. I still can use all my cases if needed and I left the plastic protector for the back part.
So overall, I think I will keep this one because with the dual Glass M ones, I dont think my cases will work nor the Charging case combo I want.
With the size of this phone and the Explosion proof glass...I feel like Captain America now
So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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one year in, and no glass breaking
your routine won't break the phone, i'm sure
screen protector, i have one on top of the anti shatter film provided with the phone, both front and back, and both scratched to hell, but too lazy to replace
Definitely put a aftermarket screen protector over the anti shatter film. The ASF is too soft, but is a pain in the arse to remove by all accounts
I've had my ZU for about 9 months now and have dropped it 3 times onto concrete, once without any screen proctor or case, the other two times has been with a wallet/flip case. The last time I dropped it the case even broke - still the screen is intact.
I too thought it wont happen to mine, till it really did, of course it's not self breaking glass for no reason, but more likely the most logical reason I could think of is, the stress accumulated from the daily use, a bit of pressure while in pocket, or backpack, along with the heat / cold temperature, whatever other bull crap from regular use, over a period of time, that stress cause the glass to be broken.
I pretty much babied my Z Ultra, have back casing, Glass M on the front, Skinomi on the back, never dropped, all in like new condition. Then last Sunday I was on my bike ride, put it inside my backpack, along with my wallet, then couple hours later, took it out from my backpack only to find the glass, under the M Glass screen protector, under the original ASF, has a hairline crack, and pretty much as good as brick, since it wont register any touch, I can see a call coming in, but cant answer it since the display doesnt work.
OP said it happens with Z1, I read that it happens with Z2, and it happens with my Z Ultra, so I think it's just something on their glass quality along with their full glass design, it is impacting a small number of them, not all, just small number, but still the problem indeed does exists.
But I still buy another Z Ultra in a heart beat without much thinking, as a matter of fact already got another one from expensys, with the price is so cheap now, the smoothness, the crisp display, the waterproofness, it still worth every penny.
Mine broke in the pocket, and so did others.
It can break. But with that said, the risk yours will break in the pocket with no abuse is small.
Sony aren't very consistent in handling these cases. Sometimes they get it fixed on warranty, sometimes they're not. But if you get a first negative answer just send in a complaint and they might turn around (as in my case).
I just got mine back. I had the asf removed on the previous one, I'm not taking it off now. And I'm doubling up with tempered glass protectors.
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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There is so much wrong with this post.
boystuff said:
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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i live right on the equator, and have not had any problems with this (i also use a screen protector on top of the antishatter film). do you mean to say by removing the anti-shatter film, the glass doesn't pick up any fingerprints and oil? a screen can only be oleophobic for so long.
To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
luceri84 said:
To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
nightanole said:
Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
luceri84 said:
But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
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Yes but the aluminum bumper case is very flimsy stamped aluminum. You would need something with zero give like aircraft grade. An aluminum or plastic shell would be the way to go, but That bumper case is just to prevent chiping of the sides, and give a mm lip when laying the phone on its front/back.
I just use a rubber back cover and THAT'S IT. No problems for me. And yes i keep it in my jeans' pocket most of the time. It does hinder my movement a little though
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The better way to deal with the size is not to put in jeans pocket. In winter, jacket pockets I guess are ok. In summer, I guess the best way would be to buy a camera bag or something for this. I think that would solve this problem.
I just got the phone and I am kinda surprised to see how thin it is. Definitely not a phone you should stress too much.
I am planning to buy a GadgetShieldz complete body protection. The question is does Z U need it? And if I put a screen protector will the pencil write properly on the screen?
Thanks!
Old topic here on the forum. Yes you probably should think about buying a screenprotector if you going to use a pen. Its an ordinary plastic sheet on the screen molded on and it will get scratched VERY easy. Also the oleofobic coating will wear off with time. In about three months you are going to notice the sheet getting more of a rough texture where you push and swipe your fingers often.
I would say that the stock screen protector has very a low quality in terms of its lifetime and ability to resist scratches.
Examples of quality screen protector:
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/mocolo-for-sony-xperia
and
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/glass-m-sony-xperia
About the GadgetShieldz. I have never heard of this company before. But its the same bull**** crap salesman promises that its "precision manufactured" and "scratch proof" that you see all around Ebay and small websites out there on the interweb.
Its a plastic sheet okay. Enough of the bragging about the so said quality. Plastic is plastic. Or vinyl or whatever it is.
If you want a screen protector. Try out a solid sheet of glass. Like the ones I linked above or if you find something promising out there.
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot. No a screen protector will for the most not disturb the ability to discover pen input. And If you do notice that input skips now and then you can always modify the sensitivity of the touch panel by editing a text file
SÜPERUSER said:
Old topic here on the forum. Yes you probably should think about buying a screenprotector if you going to use a pen. Its an ordinary plastic sheet on the screen molded on and it will get scratched VERY easy. Also the oleofobic coating will wear off with time. In about three months you are going to notice the sheet getting more of a rough texture where you push and swipe your fingers often.
I would say that the stock screen protector has very a low quality in terms of its lifetime and ability to resist scratches.
Examples of quality screen protector:
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/mocolo-for-sony-xperia
and
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/glass-m-sony-xperia
About the GadgetShieldz. I have never heard of this company before. But its the same bull**** crap salesman promises that its "precision manufactured" and "scratch proof" that you see all around Ebay and small websites out there on the interweb.
Its a plastic sheet okay. Enough of the bragging about the so said quality. Plastic is plastic. Or vinyl or whatever it is.
If you want a screen protector. Try out a solid sheet of glass. Like the ones I linked above or if you find something promising out there.
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot. No a screen protector will for the most not disturb the ability to discover pen input. And If you do notice that input skips now and then you can always modify the sensitivity of the touch panel by editing a text file
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Thanks a ton friend. Firstly, I have been using GadgetShieldz for about 5 years now. On different phones, it has performed beyond my expectations. However, my question was simply this, that will I need a screen protector, to which I've got my reply, Yes.
And secondly, will using a protector hinder in use of a pen. To which you said, No. But would like if someone using GadgetShieldz replies with their feedback.
But thanks a lot..
I have no experience with the gadgetsheildz so can not comment but i have the Mocolo glass protector (from Superusers link above) on both the front and back of my ZU. My ZU already had a few tiny scratches on the original ASF which have now all but vanished with the mocolo glass in place.
However after testing with both pen and pencil and a coin to test the screenwrite input ability (All worked well and recognition was pretty smooth) the mocolo appears to have picked up a few micro scratches around the area i tested. I Cant be sure what caused it to scratch but i decided to not to use anything other than my finger for input and the write/text input isnt a feature i use much.
Other things i noticed are that although the ZU is huge and can be rather awkward to hold on occasion, i found with the front and back glass applied it has become "more" awkward as it now feels so slippy when holding and it definately moves around the table top a bit too freely for my liking...
Also consider the weight. With both sheets of glass in place there is a definite increase in the overall weight of the device. Many will say the increase is negligible but i find coupled with slippy hand feel, the slightly heavier package just adds to the overall awkwardness of the device.
However there is peace of mind knowing the original glass underneath is well protected :fingers-crossed:
I'm sure these issues could be rectified with the use of a gel case on back which i am considering as my ZU looks amazing and the above glass protector fits like a glove but the phone feels more fragile/vulnerable than before.
My backside has cracked. And I like it. Because it shows that my mocolo did the job it was designed to. :good: I might buy a new set later on. It has not affect my user experience because there are no sharp ends or pieces of glass that can hurt me.
What I like about it is that it makes the z ultra rigid and more durable. Without the sheets I can easily bend my device so I just find it positive to have the sheets. And I just love the extra weight and feeling of glass
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My backside has cracked. And I like it. Because it shows that my mocolo did the job it was designed to. :good: I might buy a new set later on. It has not affect my user experience because there are no sharp ends or pieces of glass that can hurt me.
What I like about it is that it makes the z ultra rigid and more durable. Without the sheets I can easily bend my device so I just find it positive to have the sheets. And I just love the extra weight and feeling of glass
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When you say the back has cracked do you mean the glass underneath the protector has cracked, or has the mocolo glass cracked?
The worry is the front underside glass cracking which from all accounts renders the device non functional to any touch.
Con500 said:
When you say the back has cracked do you mean the glass underneath the protector has cracked, or has the mocolo glass cracked?
The worry is the front underside glass cracking which from all accounts renders the device non functional to any touch.
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The backside mocolo glass has cracked :good:
a question about screen
Hello everyone,
This is my first post here. I have ordered Z Ultra which will be delivered most probably tomorrow. After ordering i read so many complaints about the screen self breaking problem in Xperia Z series and Sony is not covering it in warranty. I am confuse whether to keep the phone or should i return it. Or is there any way to save or protect the screen. Will applying tempered glass protector solve the problem. People has complained screen cracks even after few days of purchase. I am worried about it, dont want to waste my hard earned money
Please suggest guys about the protector.
Thanks in advance.
Sandeep Bharaj
sandeep_bharaj said:
Hello everyone,
This is my first post here. I have ordered Z Ultra which will be delivered most probably tomorrow. After ordering i read so many complaints about the screen self breaking problem in Xperia Z series and Sony is not covering it in warranty. I am confuse whether to keep the phone or should i return it. Or is there any way to save or protect the screen. Will applying tempered glass protector solve the problem. People has complained screen cracks even after few days of purchase. I am worried about it, dont want to waste my hard earned money
Please suggest guys about the protector.
Thanks in advance.
Sandeep Bharaj
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If you keep it out of your trousers pockets and not placing it where it can be bent (Yes the Z ultra can be bent very easy) .i.e. for example between your doorkeys and heavy books in your bag or tight pockets in your skinny jeans. Or subjecting your device to fast temperature changes for example from direct sunlight indoors to minus degrees winter outdoors and vice versa. Keep it in your pocket to ease the temperature change etc.
Think about the phone like its a glass oven baking dish because it has two safety glass sheets and addition to that it has air trapped inside it because the Z ultra is waterproof or at some level at least (1meter/30min?)
If you are careful where you put it then you don't have to worry that the screen might self crack. I hope I did not scare you now.. :silly:
I have not had an issue with my screen yet at least so you can relax
I put an illumishield screen protector over the stock screen, because of what I read about scratches. So screen protectors are from and back.
Getting the DSC-QX10 lens, so I got the adapter SPA-ACX3 for XZ. Lens locks onto the back of mobile ? Phone .
Plus, I wrap my XZ in a microfiber cloth , and carry in my messenger bag, with NFC Bluetooth headphones .
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SÜPERUSER said:
If you keep it out of your trousers pockets and not placing it where it can be bent (Yes the Z ultra can be bent very easy) .i.e. for example between your doorkeys and heavy books in your bag or tight pockets in your skinny jeans. Or subjecting your device to fast temperature changes for example from direct sunlight indoors to minus degrees winter outdoors and vice versa. Keep it in your pocket to ease the temperature change etc.
Think about the phone like its a glass oven baking dish because it has two safety glass sheets and addition to that it has air trapped inside it because the Z ultra is waterproof or at some level at least (1meter/30min?)
If you are careful where you put it then you don't have to worry that the screen might self crack. I hope I did not scare you now.. :silly:
I have not had an issue with my screen yet at least so you can relax
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Thanks alot for the reply
I am using it since 4 days with all possible precautions. I havnt put it in my jeans pocket yet. Carrying it in shirt's pocket all the time
Secondly i get in insured :thumbup:
If in case its screen breaks, i ll get something from inssurance company.. actualy phone is really good at d price i got so didnt returned..
Thanks for d suggestions, i ll take care about the temprature change.. will avoid sudden temperatures..
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I wish I didn't listen to the people that told me I didn't need on for the i9100. I had to live with that scratch for nearly 15 months.
Got one from day one with this, and will do for all future phones until I can trust there won't be a single scratch over the life of the phone.
screen protector..
X0LARIUM said:
I am planning to buy a GadgetShieldz complete body protection. The question is does Z U need it? And if I put a screen protector will the pencil write properly on the screen?
Thanks!
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yes.. you need that... i would prevent you screen from scratches.. z ultra is not protected by corning gorilla glass or something.. its just a shatter proof glass.. so its better to buy a screen protector
jsonexe said:
yes.. you need that... i would prevent you screen from scratches.. z ultra is not protected by corning gorilla glass or something.. its just a shatter proof glass.. so its better to buy a screen protector
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Got onE!!