Hello everyone, I am getting ready to buy a used m8 and am not 100% sure if it is stock. I am not familiar with HTC. They sent me a screen shot. The only thing I can tell is that it doesn't have the 20mb update yet. They said the only thing is rooted. I am wanted to know if its stock. I'd rather its stock and then I'll play with it. Thanks for your help.
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The screen shot isn't going to tell you anything. Those can be hacked to say whatever.
The phone isn't stock if its been rooted. The phone can never be truly returned to stock once its rooted. The bootloader has been unlocked (which HTC has a record of) unless the user happened to make firewater temp root work, and s-off without unlocking the bootloader, which I think is very unlikely.
A screenshot of the bootloader screen would be more useful, as it would tell you s-off or s-on, if the bootloader is locked, unlocked, relocked, and other details which are harder to change than within the OS.
Even then, if the bootloader says s-on, you would never know if the previous owner did s-off then returned to s-on, which still throws a security flag that can't be changed.
Or are you asking if its been returned to stock? Any phone can easily be returned to stock, now that the AT&T RUU is available.
Thanks for the reply. I realize that once it rooted its not full stock. I was curious if its on stock rom. I wont know more until till I physically see the phone. I've had samsung, motorola, and lg so I'm not familiar with HTC. I'm trying to gather info to know what I'm looking for.
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ILuvRice said:
I realize that once it rooted its not full stock. I was curious if its on stock rom.
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The photo the seller sent doesn't have the right info to tell if its on the stock ROM. You want software number (which isn't on the photo), not build number.
But as I said, it doesn't matter. The phone is easily returned to the stock ROM with the RUU, or other means.
Okay thanks.
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So my girlfriend just recently made the android switch (yay!). She got a vibrant on ebay that is unlocked for at&t, but is still on android 2.1. My question is, if she wanted to upgrade to 2.2 or 2.3, what would be the best way to go about it?
Will it inevitably relock the phone and i will have to unlock it?
Thanks in advance!
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Obviously i have to root it first. Really what i was looking to know is will it relock if i root or flash another rom? Mostly just trying to see how much time i should set aside for the whole process
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DRSdroid said:
Obviously i have to root it first. Really what i was looking to know is will it relock if i root or flash another rom? Mostly just trying to see how much time i should set aside for the whole process
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no it shouldnt, i got mine unlocked and ive been on 2.2, 2.2.1, 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 and im still unlocked
to root, back up(apps and current rom), flash and restore(apps) it'll probably only take like 30 min - an hour tops if you know what your doing
read through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028 if you need to know
Nice.. ty ty. I have a little experience, i rooted my g2 with the dreaded security locked bootloader hehe. Shouldnt be too hard to root, i was more worried about relocking. Thanks for the info!
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My cam has fried and the incredible sprint tech said if I return to stock by the time the replacement arrives they wont charge me.
Plz help a newbie
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donsh00tmesanta said:
My cam has fried and the incredible sprint tech said if I return to stock by the time the replacement arrives they wont charge me.
Plz help a newbie
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Even if you return to stock, after using the HTC Unlock method, your bootloader will show "RE-LOCKED"......At least according to this thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316743
Oh no am I screwed?
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Na from what I've read you can still flash roms and kernels just threw fastboot if I'm not mistaken. Check out the dev- section for the how to's. Might want to setup adb on your laptop/pc as well. Also you can try an ruu. Or you can do an in home replacement swap. They should be able to send the phone to you, better the factory get the phone were they will be less likely to care than sprint. Imo that is.
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donsh00tmesanta said:
My cam has fried and the incredible sprint tech said if I return to stock by the time the replacement arrives they wont charge me.
Plz help a newbie
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hockeyfamily737 said:
Even if you return to stock, after using the HTC Unlock method, your bootloader will show "RE-LOCKED"......At least according to this thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316743
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donsh00tmesanta said:
Oh no am I screwed?
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Whether or not the Sprint Store will allow you to exchange the device is all up to them. The proces for returning an HTC method lock/unlocked device to Stock should result in the bootloader displaying *Relocked*.
As far as we've seen, there is no published/public method of bypassing this process. Very little has been said from the developer community on the details/inner workings of Hboot 1.5. The Sprint store, if they boot the device into the bootloader mode, will at least know you *Relocked* the device. I would imagine, if you could promise/ensure the Sprint Store Tech you've restored the phone back to stock and then relocked, following HTC directions, they *should* be okay with the process, but in the end, it is up to them.
Of course, capitalism provides competition, even with a Monopoly. If one Sprint store isn't willing to take your business and exchange the device, another store might be willing. The only incentive on their part would be for future customer loyalty .. but this is probably more off topic.
I haven't seen any Sprint official posts or messages on how they will handle *relocked* devices.
If anything I've stated isn't correctly, I'm sure somebody will post up with more informed information. Perhaps a Sprint Tech or two might come across this thread and clarify on their internal process/policy.
Let us know how it turns out. Best of luck!
Thanks I am going to do this after work and take it to them right after hopefully....
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I think I am screwed I relocked it and was going to ruu it but it stays stuck at relocked and and security warning. I cant do anything else
never mind i managed to find an exe ruu its back got my new one
Can you share that exe ruu? i need to flash mine back to stock
here is the latest RUU 2.08.651.2
http://goo-inside.me/shooter/ruu/RU...08_NV_SPCS_1.31_003_release_208230_signed.exe
donsh00tmesanta said:
never mind i managed to find an exe ruu its back got my new one
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So they repaired it for you with no charge is what your are saying? Just want to know if the process went smooth for you and if they accepted the "relocked" phone?
anarchist9027 said:
here is the latest RUU 2.08.651.2
http://goo-inside.me/shooter/ruu/RU...08_NV_SPCS_1.31_003_release_208230_signed.exe
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What exactly does the RUU do ? what will it allow me to accomplish. will it allow me to downgrade from HBOOT 1.5 ?
I took the OTA update shortly after purchasing my EVO, prior to knowing what it was all about.
bluephi1914 said:
What exactly does the RUU do ? what will it allow me to accomplish. will it allow me to downgrade from HBOOT 1.5 ?
I took the OTA update shortly after purchasing my EVO, prior to knowing what it was all about.
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RUU does not downgrade because you can't downgrade from hboot 1.50 as of now. It is used to revert you back to stock and unroot I believe.
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Soooo...really like the phone so far but not in love with it yet....thinking about maybe returning it if it doesn't grow on me....long story short it's unlocked and rooted running custom firmware....now i did make a stock nandroid before flashing anything....so can I flash back to the stock nandroid and just relock it and it will be ok? Will att give me a hard time and or know it was tampered with?..I would hate to have the next potential phone owner not be warrentied because of me unlocking it....
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lunercrab said:
Soooo...really like the phone so far but not in love with it yet....thinking about maybe returning it if it doesn't grow on me....long story short it's unlocked and rooted running custom firmware....now i did make a stock nandroid before flashing anything....so can I flash back to the stock nandroid and just relock it and it will be ok? Will att give me a hard time and or know it was tampered with?..I would hate to have the next potential phone owner not be warrentied because of me unlocking it....
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As long as you can restore it to bone stock and you just tell them you decided it's not the phone for you, you might be able to. I've heard of people returning unlocked and re-locked phones before without any problems, but they could tell you to keep it if they want to look closely and decide to hold firm on that you're technically voiding the warranty by unlocking.
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As long as you can restore it to bone stock and you just tell them you decided it's not the phone for you, you might be able to. I've heard of people returning unlocked and re-locked phones before without any problems, but they could tell you to keep it if they want to look closely and decide to hold firm on that you're technically voiding the warranty by unlocking.
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Yeah I can return it stock thanks to my nandroid...but I'm just wondering if att is really that smart....I'm mean correct me if I'm wrong but once I relock that tampered notice disappears right? So I'm just wondering how they would even know I guess....or I guess I could just sell the phone too if need be
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lunercrab said:
Yeah I can return it stock thanks to my nandroid...but I'm just wondering if att is really that smart....I'm mean correct me if I'm wrong but once I relock that tampered notice disappears right? So I'm just wondering how they would even know I guess....or I guess I could just sell the phone too if need be
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Tampered will not go away. You have to have s-off to remove
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Tampered will not go away. You have to have s-off to remove
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Damn ok...well guess I'll have to sell then if I decide...thanks guys...
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HTC always finds a way for me to buy their phone when I want to upgrade. First the Fuse instead of 1st gen iPhone, then the HTC MyTouch which was rooted till Jelly Bean, Now the One instead of the S4.
HTC always gets me with build quality. After all the hype and hoopla i still have an HTC.
Can someone tell me why I should root my phone. Any new features?
Ive watched dozens of vids and nothing has really SOLD me on doing it.
When I rooted my MyTouch it was like Night and Day. I just dont see that much of an improvement when my phone is rooted.
Thoughts?
The only two phones I didn't want to root were the Nexus 4 and now the HTC One. There is nothing I need more than what came out of the box.
I unlocked ,my boot loader and installed a custom recovery to play with ROMs ,etc.
This way I'm now on 4.2.2 and my HTC logo functions as menu, and I have several sleep and wake options where as before I only had the power button on top for that. There are several other reasons Its beneficial but in the end its all personal preference.
HTC One - Unlocked, ARHD 12, Bulletproof Kernel, Several mods.
Nexus 7 - Cyanogenmod
Tab 2 7 - Cyanogenmod
Only thing is, you couldn't go back to unrooted stock even if you wanted to. The file isn't available..
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Only thing is, you couldn't go back to unrooted stock even if you wanted to. The file isn't available..
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Yes. Yes you can. You unlock the boot loader install a custom recovery and BACKUP the stock rom before you root it.
Simple as that.
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Thanks ingenious and yahooz,
I would root in a heartbeat if battery was an issue. Out the box this phone is a beast and battery life is ridiculous.
I'll definitely give it a go as long as I can back up the stock.
I've watched numerous vids and some options interest me but haven't pushed me over the edge to do anything.
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jon_htc said:
Thanks ingenious and yahooz,
I would root in a heartbeat if battery was an issue. Out the box this phone is a beast and battery life is ridiculous.
I'll definitely give it a go as long as I can back up the stock.
I've watched numerous vids and some options interest me but haven't pushed me over the edge to do anything.
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No problem.
Just make sure after you unlock the boot loader and install a custom recovery, do a backup in recovery prior to flashing the zip to root. Also copy it to your PC for safe keeping. This way if something happens or you want to return to stock for OTA, you can simply restore the backup, reflash stock recovery and even relock the bootloader if you wanted. Granted by default it will now say relocked in the bootloader but that's no big deal.
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Nexus 7 - Cyanogenmod
Tab 2 7 - Cyanogenmod
yah00z said:
Yes. Yes you can. You unlock the boot loader install a custom recovery and BACKUP the stock rom before you root it.
Simple as that.
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So you're saying you would be able to restore it to the exact condition it was when it came out of the box? Unrooted, Stock Recovery, etc..
I had seen someone else say you couldn't do it, but sounds like you're right
ingenious247 said:
So you're saying you would be able to restore it to the exact condition it was when it came out of the box? Unrooted, Stock Recovery, etc..
I had seen someone else say you couldn't do it, but sounds like you're right
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Yes you sure can.
You can restore the backup you made of the OS that's not rooted, refresh the stock Recovery and lock the bootloader. It will then be back to stock. Only thing that will show is in the bootloader it will show RELOCKED as opposed to LOCKED
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yah00z said:
Yes you sure can.
You can restore the backup you made of the OS that's not rooted, refresh the stock Recovery and lock the bootloader. It will then be back to stock. Only thing that will show is in the bootloader it will show RELOCKED as opposed to LOCKED
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Well then, technically I am correct and it would not be the same as stock unrooted out-of-the-box. And yes, they can tell.
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Well then, technically I am correct and it would not be the same as stock unrooted out-of-the-box. And yes, they can tell.
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Considering you unlock the bootloader through htc development, I figured you knew they would be aware anyways. You can unlock with s-off but I'd suggest htc dev. They simply state if you cause damage as a result of unlocking the bootloader, they won't cover it. I believe there is also a way to make it say locked instead of relocked. I know of several people whom have had successful warranty claims with unlocked bootloaders.
What are your concerns? Just curious.
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None, I'm not rooting this phone. Just want people to know the whole scoop
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None, I'm not rooting this phone. Just want people to know the whole scoop
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Good deal...
Yes Htc clearly states it on the website. If you are to brick your phone say as a result of unlocking the bootloader they obviously won't cover it. However say it's a defective sensor for example they will cover it. At least that's been my the experience of many people I know.
I thought you meant you couldn't revert to an unrooted stock OS.
Heck you can now even convert some carrier branded htc ones to the Google play edition and receive OTA updates.
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Hi everyone,
I have used the forums in the past to root my old s3 and before that to root/add a custom rom to an old HTC Aria so I do have a little experience with modifying phones. I recently got the HTC m8 (att version) and was holding off on doing anything to it until the EPS got added. Since the update today, EPS is currently live on my phone. How would I go about rooting it now? I saw a post about the old root methods, but will they still work with the new update? I basically want to root my phone so that I can uninstall any bloatware. I know I can disable it but would prefer to get it off completely. On my s3 I also used an app to prevent certain apps that I periodically used from automatically starting up. Would rooting be my best option? I have read up a little on the S-off, and I don't believe I need to do this to uninstall bloatware, but please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks in advance for any advice.
You may just wanna boot loader unlock and flash twrp first in order to keep that full stock image. So once you start uninstalling things you don't run into trouble. Also it's the easiest method to root (after fastboot flashing twrp 2.7.0.2, you can flash supersu 1.94 via recovery and your good to go. Stock backup with root
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kmac212 said:
Hi everyone,
I have used the forums in the past to root my old s3 and before that to root/add a custom rom to an old HTC Aria so I do have a little experience with modifying phones. I recently got the HTC m8 (att version) and was holding off on doing anything to it until the EPS got added. Since the update today, EPS is currently live on my phone. How would I go about rooting it now? I saw a post about the old root methods, but will they still work with the new update? I basically want to root my phone so that I can uninstall any bloatware. I know I can disable it but would prefer to get it off completely. On my s3 I also used an app to prevent certain apps that I periodically used from automatically starting up. Would rooting be my best option? I have read up a little on the S-off, and I don't believe I need to do this to uninstall bloatware, but please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Old root methods worked for me, so unlocking the boot loader, flashing TWRP, then flashing supersu will work.
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I know the OP isn't concerned about S-OFF, but I am...is that affected by this update?
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I know the OP isn't concerned about S-OFF, but I am...is that affected by this update?
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If you're already S-Off, then the update can't do anything about it.
If you're S-On, and firewater was patched in the update, then you shouldn't be able to S-Off (unless another exploit is found). Thing is, I don't think anyone who's S-On has updated yet to test firewater. I will when I get my replacement, but I won't have that for days.
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If you're S-On, and firewater was patched in the update, then you shouldn't be able to S-Off (unless another exploit is found). Thing is, I don't think anyone who's S-On has updated yet to test firewater. I will when I get my replacement, but I won't have that for days.
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Firewater still works on 1.58. At least it still works for one person so far: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751803
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Firewater still works on 1.58. At least it still works for one person so far: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751803
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SWEET! Looks like AT&T was either too lazy or didn't have enough time to have HTC patch it (betting on former), either way we still have the ability to S-Off.
Guess I'll be able to give another confirmation in a few days.
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Longcat14 said:
SWEET! Looks like AT&T was either too lazy or didn't have enough time to have HTC patch it (betting on former), either way we still have the ability to S-Off.
Guess I'll be able to give another confirmation in a few days.
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Why not s-off before updating? As you already said, this is always going to be the safer route.
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Why not s-off before updating? As you already said, this is always going to be the safer route.
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With my luck, I'll somehow get the one M8 that was updated prior to shipping.
If it's not updated, I'll definitely S-Off before that, but I was also wondering for people who get M8s with 1.58.502.1 on the phone from the factory.
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Just an FYI I rooted and soff after update
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Android The Greek said:
Just an FYI I rooted and soff after update
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Yep, I was also able to
Some people are having issues with the OTA update after they S-OFF. About 30-40% through the update process, their phone freezes with a red exclamation point on the screen. Then again, it works for others, so I'm not really sure what's causing the issue.