Samsung Galaxy K Zoom review for S4 Zoom users - Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom

As an ex S4 Zoom owner, I now have the K Zoom, and at the moment there is no dedicated thread. I've written quite a bit about the K Zoom since I've got it on Saturday.
Link to review and my 7 part S4 review http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/?s=Samsung+K+Zoom+review
Part 3 of the K Zoom is up tomorrow. If you click on any part of the review you will also see a link to the expanding K Zoom flickr set. Part 3 is a big part with camera specifics.
If you any questions I will answer them here.
The only bit I miss on the K Zoom from the S4 Zoom is the tripod mount is missing on the K Zoom. Otherwise , the K Zoom is better in every way.
Anyway, fire away any questions.

gavinfabl said:
As an ex S4 Zoom owner, I now have the K Zoom, and at the moment there is no dedicated thread. I've written quite a bit about the K Zoom since I've got it on Saturday.
Link to review and my 7 part S4 review http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/?s=Samsung+K+Zoom+review
Part 3 of the K Zoom is up tomorrow. If you click on any part of the review you will also see a link to the expanding K Zoom flickr set. Part 3 is a big part with camera specifics.
If you any questions I will answer them here.
The only bit I miss on the K Zoom from the S4 Zoom is the tripod mount is missing on the K Zoom. Otherwise , the K Zoom is better in every way.
Anyway, fire away any questions.
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Thanks for taking the time to review and posting the link here! Appreciate it.
Can you keep us updated on if dust reaches the lens below the protective glass?

Ramsey said:
Thanks for taking the time to review and posting the link here! Appreciate it.
Can you keep us updated on if dust reaches the lens below the protective glass?
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Will do. I'm waiting for my free case from Samsung. This has a lens cover too, that automatically pops off when lens opens.

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Will do. I'm waiting for my free case from Samsung. This has a lens cover too, that automatically pops off when lens opens.
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That's pretty cool.
I read your review and I agree with you. I prefer having 1080p res and a thin profile on my smartphone. After using the S4 and HTC One now I'll stick to the HTC One (terrible camera but great speakers and body), gave my wife the S4 Zoom since she doesn't mind. I'm glad the K Zoom is thinner but it seems it has some of the same issues that the S4 Zoom has also, and it also has bad sound quality.. It shows that Samsung did not work too hard on this other than the body (which looks really good) and adding the same TW software that the S5 has.

Ramsey said:
That's pretty cool.
I read your review and I agree with you. I prefer having 1080p res and a thin profile on my smartphone. After using the S4 and HTC One now I'll stick to the HTC One (terrible camera but great speakers and body), gave my wife the S4 Zoom since she doesn't mind. I'm glad the K Zoom is thinner but it seems it has some of the same issues that the S4 Zoom has also, and it also has bad sound quality.. It shows that Samsung did not work too hard on this other than the body (which looks really good) and adding the same TW software that the S5 has.
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Sound quality isn't bad. It's just not as good as the HTC One M8 for example.

My review (as posted on Galaxy Camera Section)
So, I got the Galaxy K Zoom on launch day and my first impressions are WOW! It has far exceeded my expectations in many ways.
The build quality is really good, it feels solid and it looks really nice (I have the black one). I thought the screen might be sub standard being only 720p but it really is sharp and bright and although super AMOLED the colours are not saturated at all. They have got the balance right in my opinion and the size is right too. It doesn't feel particularly bulky or heavy and the casing is grippy.
I didn't have a lot of time but I did a quick comparison test with photographs taken from it in the same spot with my Galaxy S4 Zoom and the Galaxy Camera. I have to say the shots on the K Zoom at 10x optical were on a par with the Galaxy Camera and better than the S4 Zoom. I also tried 20x zoom that's 10 optical +10x digital and the results were far better than I expected, actually they were great. Low light level shots came out better than the Galaxy Camera as did the video recording.
There are tons of scene modes and not forgetting the excellent AF/AE mode – This lets you choose separate parts of the picture to act as exposure metering and focus points. The only thing missing oddly enough is the tilt shift (or selective focus) as seen on the S5, I am not sure why that wasn't included. I also thought there was mean't to be an LED flash in addition to the Xenon, for video use but that's missing and there's no notification LED. But no great loss.
But overall, it a massive improvement over the S4 Zoom and it's definitely good enough to replace my Galaxy Camera. It's pocketable, has full mobile phone function, better screen, battery life, interface and Android Kit-Kat on board. Missing only a tripod mount (I bought a smartphone tripod mount accessory to solve this) and that extra 10x zoom if we're talking Galaxy Camera comparison.
I have only been using it for a day but I am bowled over. I have no regrets replacing the Galaxy Camera with this baby.
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gavinfabl said:
As an ex S4 Zoom owner, I now have the K Zoom, and at the moment there is no dedicated thread. I've written quite a bit about the K Zoom since I've got it on Saturday.
Link to review and my 7 part S4 review http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/?s=Samsung+K+Zoom+review
Part 3 of the K Zoom is up tomorrow. If you click on any part of the review you will also see a link to the expanding K Zoom flickr set. Part 3 is a big part with camera specifics.
If you any questions I will answer them here.
The only bit I miss on the K Zoom from the S4 Zoom is the tripod mount is missing on the K Zoom. Otherwise , the K Zoom is better in every way.
Anyway, fire away any questions.
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I tried to leave a comment on your review on your blog, but it just boots me off. So I cut and paste it here:
Whilst this is an excellent in depth review, and I love the sample pics you have posted by the way! I thought I would add my findings. As I have also included a mini review above obviously I have a K Zoom and I have not experienced any crashes at all. Maybe you have a memory card issue? Also I didn't think the sound was bad at all. It's subjective granted but I have heard much worse. "Story Album" works perfect for me too, so I am wondering if you have some 3rd party app conflict. I also have no reception problems.
My biggest criticism of your review is I don't think it's fair to compare it to an S5 or HTC One M8. The K Zoom isn't a flagship top end device like the S5. So the missing features you complain of are a cost cutter and as long as the camera side performs well (which it does) then I am happy I bought it for that reason. At £360 (pre order cost) I think it's an absolute bargain. You're not going to get an S5 with an optical zoom camera for that price.

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So, I got the Galaxy K Zoom on launch day and my first impressions are WOW! It has far exceeded my expectations in many ways.
The build quality is really good, it feels solid and it looks really nice (I have the black one). I thought the screen might be sub standard being only 720p but it really is sharp and bright and although super AMOLED the colours are not saturated at all. They have got the balance right in my opinion and the size is right too. It doesn't feel particularly bulky or heavy and the casing is grippy.
I didn't have a lot of time but I did a quick comparison test with photographs taken from it in the same spot with my Galaxy S4 Zoom and the Galaxy Camera. I have to say the shots on the K Zoom at 10x optical were on a par with the Galaxy Camera and better than the S4 Zoom. I also tried 20x zoom that's 10 optical +10x digital and the results were far better than I expected, actually they were great. Low light level shots came out better than the Galaxy Camera as did the video recording.
There are tons of scene modes and not forgetting the excellent AF/AE mode – This lets you choose separate parts of the picture to act as exposure metering and focus points. The only thing missing oddly enough is the tilt shift (or selective focus) as seen on the S5, I am not sure why that wasn't included. I also thought there was mean't to be an LED flash in addition to the Xenon, for video use but that's missing and there's no notification LED. But no great loss.
But overall, it a massive improvement over the S4 Zoom and it's definitely good enough to replace my Galaxy Camera. It's pocketable, has full mobile phone function, better screen, battery life, interface and Android Kit-Kat on board. Missing only a tripod mount (I bought a smartphone tripod mount accessory to solve this) and that extra 10x zoom if we're talking Galaxy Camera comparison.
I have only been using it for a day but I am bowled over. I have no regrets replacing the Galaxy Camera with this baby.
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I tried to leave a comment on your review on your blog, but it just boots me off. So I cut and paste it here:
Whilst this is an excellent in depth review, and I love the sample pics you have posted by the way! I thought I would add my findings. As I have also included a mini review above obviously I have a K Zoom and I have not experienced any crashes at all. Maybe you have a memory card issue? Also I didn't think the sound was bad at all. It's subjective granted but I have heard much worse. "Story Album" works perfect for me too, so I am wondering if you have some 3rd party app conflict. I also have no reception problems.
My biggest criticism of your review is I don't think it's fair to compare it to an S5 or HTC One M8. The K Zoom isn't a flagship top end device like the S5. So the missing features you complain of are a cost cutter and as long as the camera side performs well (which it does) then I am happy I bought it for that reason. At £360 (pre order cost) I think it's an absolute bargain. You're not going to get an S5 with an optical zoom camera for that price.
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No idea why it did that.
Back for a day out. Took 700 photos. Battery down to 10% so used ultra power saving mode. Very impressed today.

How did you managed to get a free cover?
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miljano said:
How did you managed to get a free cover?
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When I pre ordered via the Samsung estore in the UK, part of that offer was a free case. It comes about a week after the phone.

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I tried to leave a comment on your review on your blog, but it just boots me off. So I cut and paste it here:
Whilst this is an excellent in depth review, and I love the sample pics you have posted by the way! I thought I would add my findings. As I have also included a mini review above obviously I have a K Zoom and I have not experienced any crashes at all. Maybe you have a memory card issue? Also I didn't think the sound was bad at all. It's subjective granted but I have heard much worse. "Story Album" works perfect for me too, so I am wondering if you have some 3rd party app conflict. I also have no reception problems.
My biggest criticism of your review is I don't think it's fair to compare it to an S5 or HTC One M8. The K Zoom isn't a flagship top end device like the S5. So the missing features you complain of are a cost cutter and as long as the camera side performs well (which it does) then I am happy I bought it for that reason. At £360 (pre order cost) I think it's an absolute bargain. You're not going to get an S5 with an optical zoom camera for that price.[/QUOTE]
I didn't reply to this part yesterday. Was busy sorting through 700 photos . I like you mini review too.
I assume you've read the other parts of the review as they got published daily. Also my flickr account photo set is getting bigger as we speak.
The reason I compared the K Zoom with the S5 was not to knock it but to give people who are used to that sort of phone an idea of the differences and then it leaves them seeing whether it matters or not. Personally, the only things I miss with my S5 is the notification led , waterproofing, and the screen. Obviously the S5 costs £200 more, but I thought it showed that in reality the K Zoom has all the essentials and more.
In fact in use I don't know of any camera let alone phone that can take over 700 photos in one day and still have battery remaining. Awesome.

gavinfabl said:
When I pre ordered via the Samsung estore in the UK, part of that offer was a free case. It comes about a week after the phone.
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I've ordered from there and my order is still in 'processing'!
How did you manage to receive it before now, was I part of a 2nd wave of despatches.....?!
I bought it May 26th, they took my money on the 28th.

Kroy73 said:
I've ordered from there and my order is still in 'processing'!
How did you manage to receive it before now, was I part of a 2nd wave of despatches.....?!
I bought it May 26th, they took my money on the 28th.
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I have not received the free case yet. It's due any day. The phone I got already. I ordered on 22nd. I suggest speaking to Samsung as I don't have the answers

Kroy73 said:
I've ordered from there and my order is still in 'processing'!
How did you manage to receive it before now, was I part of a 2nd wave of despatches.....?!
I bought it May 26th, they took my money on the 28th.
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I ordered mine on the 26th too (experience store Westfield London) and received it on launch day (30th) so not sure why yours is delayed they told me there was plenty of stock. Unless you ordered a blue one which are due mid June. Still waiting for the case to arrive though.
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apprentice said:
I ordered mine on the 26th too (experience store Westfield London) and received it on launch day (30th) so not sure why yours is delayed they told me there was plenty of stock. Unless you ordered a blue one which are due mid June. Still waiting for the case to arrive though.
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Cheers, well done - that's the answer, I chose a blue one!
Didn't realise they had to send the phone to Mars for some young martians in a sweat shop to paint it blue with their special hair covered index fingers.....!

Kroy73 said:
Cheers, well done - that's the answer, I chose a blue one!
Didn't realise they had to send the phone to Mars for some young martians in a sweat shop to paint it blue with their special hair covered index fingers.....!
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Ha! I was also in the process of ordering a blue one until I realised it had a delayed launch and I just wasn't patient enough to wait 2 more weeks! Having said that, the black one looks fantastic, I'm very pleased with my choice.
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I agree black IMO is the best colour for this phone. I have the S5 too, which should be sold today. I chose white for this as this was the best colour for it. Black looked too boring on it.
But black on the K Zoom is awesome.
In case anyone wants a direct link to my growing K Zoom flickr set https://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinfabl100/sets/72157644532639249/
Don't forget my blog has had daily review updates on the K Zoom.
Can't believe what Samsung have managed to achieve with this phone. So good.

Anyone tried to root our camera/phone device?
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A question who did you Zoom K: is it possible to get the new photo works on S4 Zoom? Even the apk extracting the camera.
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ordered mine today costs 540USD !

ashouhdy said:
ordered mine today costs 540USD !
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That's a good price (well it would be if priced in the UK) I paid £360 ($611) and that included a 10% discount. Where did you order it from?

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Galaxy S2 camera..bad or perfect ??

hello
i want to buy a new android phone and i love capture photos..so which one have a better camera..SGS2 or MyTouch Slide 4G or iPhone 4..i don't care about video recording
Best camera I've had on a smart phone yet; had an iPhone 4 for a bit before this and that had the best camera imo till the GS II, the GS II takes amazing photos and can't forget the 2mp front cam vs the less than 1mp vga camera that you get with almost any smartphone these days...
Theres a post on the GS II general here that says "post the best picture you've taken with the gs ii" or something, id check that thread out as people have some really amazing photos taken with the phone up.
Edit- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139591
There we go, check that thread out. If you are a skilled photographer or even just a point and shoot guy the gs ii takes great photos.
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Best camera I've had on a smart phone yet; had an iPhone 4 for a bit before this and that had the best camera imo till the GS II, the GS II takes amazing photos and can't forget the 2mp front cam vs the less than 1mp vga camera that you get with almost any smartphone these days...
Theres a post on the GS II general here that says "post the best picture you've taken with the gs ii" or something, id check that thread out as people have some really amazing photos taken with the phone up.
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my friend have SGS2 and most of my family have iPhone 4..all of them say iPhone 4 camera better than SGS2 !! my friend running original rom..he should running custom rom to improve camera ??
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my friend have SGS2 and most of my family have iPhone 4..all of them say iPhone 4 camera better than SGS2 !! my friend running original rom..he should running custom rom to improve camera ??
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That's not true. Even the original Galaxy S has better camera than iphone 4.
http://gizmodo.com/5663890/the-ultimate-smartphone-camera-battle
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my friend have SGS2 and most of my family have iPhone 4..all of them say iPhone 4 camera better than SGS2 !! my friend running original rom..he should running custom rom to improve camera ??
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Well to each their own, from my personal experience i prefer the GSII camera 10x over the iPhone 4 camera. Then again I'm not really a photographing enthusiast I'm just a point and shoot type of person nor do i know the technical stuff about cameras to actually inspect both cameras technically and say which is better. If you are a "pro" photographer id google the specifications of each like the sensor or w/e and read up on it before making a decision.
gs2 camera is excellent..
sent from my galaxy S2.
I'm actually disappointed with the camera, I'm struggling to take any decent pictures with it, although that's probably my lack of talent.
I remember the iphone 4 camera being better, but without having them side by side I'll never know.
On paper the galaxy is better though.
It doesn't replace my 50D, but it does replace my 10 megapixel Sony TX1. Having an 8 megapixel cam on a phone is perfect for most uses.
Wait for iphone 5 or gs3
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edit: wrong thread, was meant to post into the "best photo you've taken" one... somehow ended up here...
Anyway, definitely it is much better than my SGS1, esp in lower light. The front camera is unreal also, I take a lot of pics with the front camera when I am out and about (so I can see what I am framing with me in the pic ;-). The SGS1 front camera produced distorted, messy blobs, the SGSII one is quite a bit better. Good enough for facebook uploads, anyway.
But friends took a pic of a group of us with an iphone in a poorly lit telephone exchange, I was amazed at the clarity of the image, my SGS1 was never capable of such an image in those light conditions (my old old Nokia N95 on the other hand, I was nearly always happy with those pics). I reckon (but will have to wait and see till I get to the same location again one day) that the SGSII might just pip it, thanks also to the flash.
Came from an iPhone 4, it definitely has a better camera and it's not very picky when it comes to lighting and focus. In contrast the SGS1 camera was pretty meh compared to the iPhone 4's shots
sgs2 has one very good camera.but the best camera smartphone is the nokia n8.
I agree, the camera is way better than the one the SGS1 had.
First time I can take decent pictures with my phone in a bar - without a flash. Great
I do think the s2 camera is slightly better than iPhone 4 but it does have a slower shutter speed (my mate and I have tested this) and sometimes its hard to get in focus... overall though not bad. Just my 2c
Its not the best camera around but it can surely rival the N8's 12Mpixel camera. The only downside is that there is a pink/green spot depending on the light conditions ( even out doors ) and some users have frame drop issues on low light when capturing 720P. 1080P video is extremely zoomed so this is only good as a 720P video capture. Putting aside the defects, the image quality is very acceptable, altho it still cant rival my very old Sony DSC-P200 ( roughly about 7-8yrs old )
if you use true hdr apps to take pics of the sun you'll be fine
regular camera for the rest
those are (true) hdr from the sgs2:
https://tibere.tzib.net/gallery/var/resizes/Uploads/2011-08-09 20.55.59.jpg?m=1312916999
https://tibere.tzib.net/gallery/var/resizes/Uploads/2011-08-02 20.32.31.jpg?m=1312313137
https://tibere.tzib.net/gallery/var/resizes/Uploads/hdr_00014_dark.jpg?m=1312401596
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dont be fooled with camera apps claiming hdr and taking a single picture - its just image processing and the result sux
im listing that because the iphone4 uses hdr for pics and this kind of pic look a lot better that way
gsmarena has good comparisons of different devices' cameras . It's important to see pictures taken under similar conditions and the same test scene .
One shouldn't expect wonders from such a tiny sensor . Anything not shot in daylight / lowest ISO/ is a compromise.
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sgs2 has one very good camera.but the best camera smartphone is the nokia n8.
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Just saying, the number of megapixels are irrelevant.
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Best phone I ever had. and I had Iphone (1), HTC Desire & SGS 1.
i love the camera. it really is very good.
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GS4 vs GS4 active?

I planned to wait for the release of the GS4 active, because the original GS4 proved to be very fragile. I do not want to be forced to use a bulky case and the GS4 failed multiple drop tests when compared to the iPhone 5 and its predecessor, the Galaxy S3. According to the rumor mill, the GS4 active will be a inferior to the original GS4. With rumors floating around that it will only have a dual core processor and an 8 megapixel camera, I am not inclined to buy this phone. What are your thoughts? Do you believe that these rumors hold any truth?
Its not rumor. There has been a video posted of the phone. Those specs are true.
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I think the active is meant to be rugged and banged up a bit.... amazing specs isnt the market they are targeting.
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It's more like a rugged S3/S4 mix, if it were a true rugged S4 it would be without question the phone I'd get, but I prefer high-spec.
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It's more like a rugged S3/S4 mix, if it were a true rugged S4 it would be without question the phone I'd get, but I prefer high-spec.
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This is my way of thinking. The video leaked shows a dual-core, which is sad. I'd gladly buy the phone if it was basically an S4 with better bodywork.
Heck, I'd even buy it if it were waterproof =P
It's a shame, I was looking forward to this. Guess I'll just end up with a standard S4 and an Otterbox.
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Heck, I'd even buy it if it were waterproof =P
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By the way, it is waterproof
Disappointed that the specs for the "Active" phone are reduced from the S4. Not sure what to buy now.
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Water resistant. Not water proof
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Disappointed that the specs for the "Active" phone are reduced from the S4. Not sure what to buy now.
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I can't wait to see the S4 Active, my dad needs this phone lol.
I may be bashed for saying this but i don't understand why one would buy a high tech phone and then wanting it full protection. If if you buy this phone you should take care of it (I understand a drop may happen to anybody) but still...is like buying a ferrari and wanting to put rugged tires and take it to a rally race
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I may be bashed for saying this but i don't understand why one would buy a high tech phone and then wanting it full protection. If if you buy this phone you should take care of it (I understand a drop may happen to anybody) but still...is like buying a ferrari and wanting to put rugged tires and take it to a rally race
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People use their phones every day. Often times people need/want to use their phone in the rain, or perhaps it drops in the puddle, there's a hundred reasons why having a water resistant phone is a good thing for most people.
Saw the official announcement from Samsung on the S4 active. Specs look comparable to the S4 except for the camera. Im hoping the Active will be on Vz by July.
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This is my way of thinking.
Clubvegas999
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This is my way of thinking too
Wish the active had the same camera as the s4 :/
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Wish the active had the same camera as the s4 :/
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the camera is most likely (don't know for sure but suspecting...) BETTER than the S4.
I've read they increased S4 to 13mp without increasing sensors size.
You've all seen the threads on blurry pics at night, right? One reason why? 13 megapixels, same optics.
More megapixels needs more light. Same light, lower brightness for each pixel. Plus that's a huge file and I doubt the sharpness will really increase with extra megapixels on a phone camera.
I'd rather Samsung use its experience with cameras and optics to provide a REAL increase in image quality via bigger/better sensor, optical image stabilization, etc. Although I just read HDR video came to S4 which is pretty darn cool. And there will be S4 Zoom with an actual zoom lens, also darn cool. That's what I'm talking about. One other thing I wish all phones had was a friggin' lens cover for the camera. Just a little thing that would slide over, maybe not even mechanical, just a little door users could close over it or something. Or at the least I wish case manufacturers would include this, something that slid or buttoned over it. Now I have to use tape.
Anyway, bottom line -- I think the Active camera will be BETTER especially at night..
All specs are actually better. It has an LCD screen which will be much better for a lot of reasons. MUCH brighter, accurate color, no pentile, etc. Work under water, as well as the camera working under water, in the rain, etc. And my fav-- hard buttons.
I'm going to start a thread on Verizon forums on this and try to get in touch with their corporate people to see if I can convince them to bring the S4 Active to Verizon. If they come out with it, i'll buy it off contract in a second!!!!
There is so much misinformation in this post.
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More megapixels needs more light. Same light, lower brightness for each pixel. Plus that's a huge file and I doubt the sharpness will really increase with extra megapixels on a phone camera.
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Megapixel count has nothing to do with how much light they need. It's the sensor that determines how much light is needed. The reason some higher megapixel cameras look worse at night is with the ISO boost you get more grain that is more dispersed across the greater pixel count.
The most important factor in low light performance is sensor size.
And yes, sharpness will absolutely increase with 13mp vs. 8. You have 50% more detail. Keep in mind this really only matters if you are blowing up images on PRINT (it own't make a difference on a 1080p TV since a 2MP image produces a 1920x1080 image, appx.) or if you happen to have a 4k TV
Anyway, bottom line -- I think the Active camera will be BETTER especially at night..
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It won't be. The S4 has a better camera, period. The S4 Active uses the same camera as on the Galaxy S3 which is a very good camera, but not as good as that on the S4. From what I have read, they are having supply issues with the S4 camera and want to keep their supply available to build into regular S4's.
It has an LCD screen which will be much better for a lot of reasons. MUCH brighter, accurate color, no pentile, etc. Work under water, as well as the camera working under water, in the rain, etc.
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Brightness is better but the contrast ratio isn't as good and the blacks aren't as good. This is not a pure win, it's going to be subjective. AMOLED will also have better battery life.
I'm going to start a thread on Verizon forums on this and try to get in touch with their corporate people to see if I can convince them to bring the S4 Active to Verizon. If they come out with it, i'll buy it off contract in a second!!!!
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I think it looks like a great phone. I don't know if it's more rugger in terms of drop capabilities - but the waterproof is very cool. I am an avid skier and would love a waterproof phone. Even to use a phone in the rain without worrying about it is nice.
Parafly said:
There is so much misinformation in this post.
Megapixel count has nothing to do with how much light they need. It's the sensor that determines how much light is needed. The reason some higher megapixel cameras look worse at night is with the ISO boost you get more grain that is more dispersed across the greater pixel count.
The most important factor in low light performance is sensor size.
And yes, sharpness will absolutely increase with 13mp vs. 8. You have 50% more detail. Keep in mind this really only matters if you are blowing up images on PRINT (it own't make a difference on a 1080p TV since a 2MP image produces a 1920x1080 image, appx.) or if you happen to have a 4k TV
It won't be. The S4 has a better camera, period. The S4 Active uses the same camera as on the Galaxy S3 which is a very good camera, but not as good as that on the S4. From what I have read, they are having supply issues with the S4 camera and want to keep their supply available to build into regular S4's.
Brightness is better but the contrast ratio isn't as good and the blacks aren't as good. This is not a pure win, it's going to be subjective. AMOLED will also have better battery life.
I think it looks like a great phone. I don't know if it's more rugger in terms of drop capabilities - but the waterproof is very cool. I am an avid skier and would love a waterproof phone. Even to use a phone in the rain without worrying about it is nice.
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While you're right in most of what you've said, the way you explained it would make the average user think in blanket terms. Higher megapixel count *does*, in fact, require more light to achieve the same results (in terms of stops of light). The larger the sensor, the less light needed to perfectly meter the shot...but with the same size sensor, the higher megapixel sensor will require more light. That part was not incorrect.
In terms of the actual sensor in the Active, nobody knows what it is. You can't say "it's the sensor from the S3", because not even the review sites have any idea at this point. All that we know is that the Active will have an 8MP sensor...assuming that the sensor is the same size as the one in the S4 (there's no reason not to), it potentially could take better shots. Again, that assumes they won't just switch to a smaller 8MP sensor...but if they don't then this thing could be a great camera for low-light shots, since it'll have wonderful sensor pixel density.
I agree with you on the screen. All other factors aside, I'd rather have an LCD than AMOLED. Being able to see the screen during the daytime on an AMOLED is borderline impossible. Yes, the blacks are a little brighter and the contrast is minutely lower...but AMOLED also has its own share of negatives -- the primary being that the saturation is blown through the roof on most of them, completely destroying color balance and realism in pictures.
To the last point...the biggest thing about this phone is that you just don't have to worry about it as much. While most phones today could be used in the rain without issue (seriously...devices today are made to be pretty resilient on their own), this thing could be used in a downpour. It's less important for when you're actually talking on it and more so when it might be in your pocket and it's being covered in water. With a waterproof device, getting caught in a rainstorm isn't as big a deal because the phone won't have a problem with it. That's *HUGE*.
As long as the screen doesn't look like the one on the xperia z from the waterproofing...
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i planned to wait for the release of the gs4 active, because the original gs4 proved to be very fragile. I do not want to be forced to use a bulky case and the gs4 failed multiple drop tests when compared to the iphone 5 and its predecessor, the galaxy s3. According to the rumor mill, the gs4 active will be a inferior to the original gs4. With rumors floating around that it will only have a dual core processor and an 8 megapixel camera, i am not inclined to buy this phone. What are your thoughts? Do you believe that these rumors hold any truth?
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Shootout: Sony Xperia Z1 vs Nokia Lumia 1020 vs LG G2 vs Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom

First very thorough camera shootout between the three phones and Camera Phone (Samsung Zoom)
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/44...1-vs-nokia1020-vs-lgg2-vs-samsunggalaxys4zoom
oneguyks said:
First very thorough camera shootout between the three phones and Camera Phone (Samsung Zoom)
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/44...1-vs-nokia1020-vs-lgg2-vs-samsunggalaxys4zoom
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Ok. I must be blind but in the first set of shots the g2 captures better details than the nokia. The nokia has better color reproduction, though.
Also the images are all at different distances...
Overall it looks like the zoom is the best picture taker. While the lg can come off as soft its still a capable shooter that could get better with software updates...
And that's where support comes in, my experience with LG support is sketchy at best... The camera has great potential but could really use some (software) tweaking. QUestion is if LG will live up to that task...
Hella tough to pick a winner from the review above btw, they all have something to say for them
They may very well be at a slight difference in distance from subject, compounded by the lens differences. Its never a simple matter to get a camera comparison to be equal in all respects. This isnt trying to compare 50mm prime lens on the same test body after all.
The results are as you might expect. The nokia sony and samsung devices are more dedicated to camera performance and those companies have more expertise in that arena.
If we are lucky there will be some improvement to the camera from LG or rom tweaks, but in any case the g2 camera takes fine pictures for a smartphone. This review is what I expected based on specs and track records of the companies.
They should have put S4 i9505 instead of zoom
Darkestred said:
Also the images are all at different distances......
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Images are not taken at different distances. Some phones have wider focal length lens so they will have wider field of view. Also, camera with more MP will look to be zoomed in more as obviously they have more mega pixels!
This has nothing to do with distances.
oneguyks said:
Images are not taken at different distances. Some phones have wider focal length lens so they will have wider field of view. Also, camera with more MP will look to be zoomed in more as obviously they have more mega pixels!
This has nothing to do with distances.
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Upon further inspection that could be a big portion of the 2nd set of shots but if that is the case I would have thought the nokia would look completely different on their far shots but it nearly matches up with each phone.
I have Z1 and a S4 Zoom and. So disappointed in my Xperia z1, the S4 Zoom wins by a mile when it comes to camera quality and outcome of pictures even though Sony boasts the Xperia z1 has 20.7mp on it. Don't believe the hype. S4 Zoom IMO has the best camera for a smartphone.
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I have Z1 and a S4 Zoom and. So disappointed in my Xperia z1, the S4 Zoom wins by a mile when it comes to camera quality and outcome of pictures even though Sony boasts the Xperia z1 has 20.7mp on it. Don't believe the hype. S4 Zoom IMO has the best camera for a smartphone.
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That's because the s4 zoom is really a camera with an Android OS. It's a horrendous smart phone. All the rest are fantastic smart phones with cameras having a decent consideration. The s4 zoom is actually kind of stupid, it gets smoked by a ton of phones and its camera gets smoked by tons of cheaper point and shoots with a ton more features at a lower price point.
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LG G2 better in many ways.:good:
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Yeah, well nope. Nokias have the best cameras IMHO. To be honest, I'm slightly disappointed in G2's camera. It's good and all, but it's been hyped a lot, so I expected something better. I don't complain though, these are smartphones after all.
Anyway, doesn't somebody know how could one play with the camera settings? Like tweaking and stuff, like xdabbeb's camera mod. I can't really figure out which files store the preferences and such.
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First very thorough camera shootout between the three phones and Camera Phone (Samsung Zoom)
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/44...1-vs-nokia1020-vs-lgg2-vs-samsunggalaxys4zoom
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What a crap are the pictures taken by cellphones, horrible. This give you an idea how Nokia sponsors DPREVIEW. The color reproduction of Nokia and Samsung are totally off, horrible. The best of 4 is Sony with it faster lenses and color reproduction similar to LG, better skin tones with Sony and LG by long compared to Samsung and Nokia, the Nokia colors are the worse. LG has a very heavy noise reduction because its really small sensor, the smallest of the 4.
The G2 night escene shoot was bad mettered.
Last word, is incredible that the people that did the image size test in DPREVIEW was so bad done. They should have resized the images to the smallest resolution for the comparison.
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S4 Zoom IMO has the best camera for a smartphone.
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I'm not agree with you, has very bad colors, slower lens and don't expect any descent picture (I can not say quality because you can not get quality out of a smartphone) with a zoom of 24-240, you wont even find a professional lens with that focal length difference.

V30 vs. Note 8 (A current V30 user)

Hey All,
Firstly, thanks in advance for the wisdom, advice, and support.
I need some advice. I am a historic Galaxy Note user - from the Note 2 through the Note 5, I've had and loved them all. I recently switched to the V30 last week after my Note 5 just wasn't making it anymore. The V30 appealed to me as a multimedia powerhouse with the unique 10 bit camera, cine log, etc. (I create multimedia - video/photos/social media on the daily for my job - the have since given me a iPhone 7+, but I still prefer creating on my android). The Note 8 appeals because it seems to be more comforting considering my history, is a powerhouse as well in so many ways, and a telephoto lens, among other things.
After returning my first Verizon V30 for terrible screen banding, I got another one that has a pretty good screen with the exception of brightness uniformity issues and crushed blacks in low light. I've read, watched, and researched as much as I can, and I can't decide what to do. I'd love your input and advice on what to do. Here's my pro/con list in no particular order:
V30:
+ DAC
+ Cine Log
+ Size in hand
+ $200 card + daydream VR
- Screen in low light (uniformity + crushed blacks)
- Wide angle cam
- 4gb ram
Note 8:
+ S pen
+ Samsung Pay
+ Telephoto camera
+6gb Ram
+ $150 credit (best buy promotion)
- Size
- Fingerprint location
Advice is much appreciated!
Thank you!
Etemchin said:
Hey All,
Firstly, thanks in advance for the wisdom, advice, and support.
I need some advice. I am a historic Galaxy Note user - from the Note 2 through the Note 5, I've had and loved them all. I recently switched to the V30 last week after my Note 5 just wasn't making it anymore. The V30 appealed to me as a multimedia powerhouse with the unique 10 bit camera, cine log, etc. (I create multimedia - video/photos/social media on the daily for my job - the have since given me a iPhone 7+, but I still prefer creating on my android). The Note 8 appeals because it seems to be more comforting considering my history, is a powerhouse as well in so many ways, and a telephoto lens, among other things.
After returning my first Verizon V30 for terrible screen banding, I got another one that has a pretty good screen with the exception of brightness uniformity issues and crushed blacks in low light. I've read, watched, and researched as much as I can, and I can't decide what to do. I'd love your input and advice on what to do. Here's my pro/con list in no particular order:
V30:
+ DAC
+ Cine Log
+ Size in hand
+ $200 card + daydream VR
- Screen in low light (uniformity + crushed blacks)
- Wide angle cam
- 4gb ram
Note 8:
+ S pen
+ Samsung Pay
+ Telephoto camera
+6gb Ram
+ $150 credit (best buy promotion)
- Size
- Fingerprint location
Advice is much appreciated!
Thank you!
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I think if you can answer the question what do you miss from your current V30 is there a feature that is really USEFUL for you you wish it would have had? Specs aside real use for your specific needs
Etemchin said:
Hey All,
Firstly, thanks in advance for the wisdom, advice, and support.
I need some advice. I am a historic Galaxy Note user - from the Note 2 through the Note 5, I've had and loved them all. I recently switched to the V30 last week after my Note 5 just wasn't making it anymore. The V30 appealed to me as a multimedia powerhouse with the unique 10 bit camera, cine log, etc. (I create multimedia - video/photos/social media on the daily for my job - the have since given me a iPhone 7+, but I still prefer creating on my android). The Note 8 appeals because it seems to be more comforting considering my history, is a powerhouse as well in so many ways, and a telephoto lens, among other things.
After returning my first Verizon V30 for terrible screen banding, I got another one that has a pretty good screen with the exception of brightness uniformity issues and crushed blacks in low light. I've read, watched, and researched as much as I can, and I can't decide what to do. I'd love your input and advice on what to do. Here's my pro/con list in no particular order:
V30:
+ DAC
+ Cine Log
+ Size in hand
+ $200 card + daydream VR
- Screen in low light (uniformity + crushed blacks)
- Wide angle cam
- 4gb ram
Note 8:
+ S pen
+ Samsung Pay
+ Telephoto camera
+6gb Ram
+ $150 credit (best buy promotion)
- Size
- Fingerprint location
Advice is much appreciated!
Thank you!
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I am not sure what exactly you are asking....
I can tell you that I had the Note 8 for 2 weeks and took it back. It's BIG. HEAVY and I didn't use the S-Pen after the first couple of days. The Camera was phenomenal. I returned it and used a flip phone for two days, then bought the V30 on release day at AT&T. I did it that way so I could return it for the Note 8 if I didn't like it.
So far, so good. My screen is good. The brightness is weird, sometimes it seems brighter than others, but as of yet it has not been a big deal. It is NOWHERE near as bright as the Note 8, but no phone is. I do miss that about the 8. I do not miss the zoom lens. It was a gimmick. It helped some with macro photos, but the digital zoom on the V30 is AMAZING.
Battery life is about the same, and the LG charges faster then the Note. The LG fits in pockets better and seems right in my hand, whereas the Note seemed way too long. You really notice that the LG is nearly 40 grams lighter, but it does not feel cheap. Also, the manual mode on the LG Camera is so much better than the Note. It has much better tactile control on it's slider. That makes all the difference in the world. And the sound, whether through a cord or bluetooth is MUCH better in my car!
I have until Thursday to make up my mind about trading, but I think I'm going to be very happy with the LG.
I hope that helps
the note 8 is better. smoother has bettet screen , feel more premium. owning both right now the note 8 is going back and is just because of how tall and heavy it is. the v30 is just much more comfortbale devices. Botj phone are awesome.
Thank you all for the opinions!
I appreciate your feedback and and still conflicted although am leaning toward keeping the V30. One of the original reasons I chose was the size and it sounds like the 8 is just too huge. Just wish the V30 had Samsung Pay and a better screen experience, but I think the V30 checks all the right boxes.
Thanks again!
Etemchin said:
Thank you all for the opinions!
I appreciate your feedback and and still conflicted although am leaning toward keeping the V30. One of the original reasons I chose was the size and it sounds like the 8 is just too huge. Just wish the V30 had Samsung Pay and a better screen experience, but I think the V30 checks all the right boxes.
Thanks again!
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I was debating between those two also and had to go with v30 I've owned note phones before but never used the spen but cant deny note8 looks beautiful but I'm a music guys and prefer the camera set up of the v30 and so far no issue with the v30 screen loving it
If the op is concern about size then the v30 is the right choice. I am also a note user, dating back from the original phablet note. The note 8 feels Right at home, if anything the note 8 is actually easier to hold vs note 5 and back. Starting with the note 7 which was quiet nice to hold also. I suggest the op go play with the note 8. If the v30 screen is not your cup of tea, the note 8 has the best screen right now.
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Etemchin said:
Thank you all for the opinions!
Just wish the V30 had Samsung Pay and a better screen experience, but I think the V30 checks all the right boxes.
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Why the preference for Samsung Pay? (I use Android Pay but have never used the other.)
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Why the preference for Samsung Pay? (I use Android Pay but have never used the other.)
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unlike android pay. samsung pay work anywhere u are able to swipe ur card, even if it doesnt take electronic payment. it sents a magnetic signal to the credit swipe machine just like if u are physically swiping ur credit/debit card register in the app. works 100% of the time. unlike other electronic payment like apple or android pay.
I have the Note 8 but have tested out the V30 as well.
Pros for the Note 8:
-Brighter screen with more saturated colors
-6 GB RAM helps with app management
-Better looking UI. Though both can be themed.
-Feels more substantial
-Conventional power button placement
-Headphone jack on the bottom instead of top
Pros for the V30:
-Smaller form factor, more comfortable to hold
-Audio optimization
Guyinlaca said:
I have the Note 8 but have tested out the V30 as well.
Pros for the Note 8:
-Brighter screen with more saturated colors
-6 GB RAM helps with app management
-Better looking UI. Though both can be themed.
-Feels more substantial
-Conventional power button placement
-Headphone jack on the bottom instead of top
Pros for the V30:
-Smaller form factor, more comfortable to hold
-Audio optimization
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ad to the v30.
better fingerprint location
up there with the best,faster more acurrate fingerprint around
face unlock with screen off
better battery life
phone still super cool doesnt matter what u do. note 8 doesnt get has hot like s8. but cannot compare to the v30 coolness
i had both but decided to keep the v30 just because the hifi dac, wide angle lens, the size which is 100% more comfortable and 6" of usuable screen. hated the curve screen.
For me the Note 8 was just too heavy. The curved screen registered way too many accidental touches. I don't use the S-Pen on my Note 3, so I doubt I'd use it on the Note 8. The screen on the V30 is bright bright enough for me. The camera is fine. The audio quality with headphones is amazing on the V30 too.
Overall, for me, the V30 worked out great. Now to get my first VR headset. They said I'm approved for the promotion and it'll be here in 6-8 weeks. Two year warranty was a nice added bonus as well.
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Sheldor1967 said:
I am not sure what exactly you are asking....
I can tell you that I had the Note 8 for 2 weeks and took it back. It's BIG. HEAVY and I didn't use the S-Pen after the first couple of days. The Camera was phenomenal. I returned it and used a flip phone for two days, then bought the V30 on release day at AT&T. I did it that way so I could return it for the Note 8 if I didn't like it.
So far, so good. My screen is good. The brightness is weird, sometimes it seems brighter than others, but as of yet it has not been a big deal. It is NOWHERE near as bright as the Note 8, but no phone is. I do miss that about the 8. I do not miss the zoom lens. It was a gimmick. It helped some with macro photos, but the digital zoom on the V30 is AMAZING.
Battery life is about the same, and the LG charges faster then the Note. The LG fits in pockets better and seems right in my hand, whereas the Note seemed way too long. You really notice that the LG is nearly 40 grams lighter, but it does not feel cheap. Also, the manual mode on the LG Camera is so much better than the Note. It has much better tactile control on it's slider. That makes all the difference in the world. And the sound, whether through a cord or bluetooth is MUCH better in my car!
I have until Thursday to make up my mind about trading, but I think I'm going to be very happy with the LG.
I hope that helps
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I just got home from work. I have the note 8 since Friday so basically 2 days. I love the phone except that it's too big and heavy like you said. If if was 6 inches itwp ups be the perfect device. But damn it's so big. So now I'm thinking about returning it and grabbing either an S8, V30 or Z2 even.
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barondebxl said:
I just got home from work. I have the note 8 since Friday so basically 2 days. I love the phone except that it's too big and heavy like you said. If if was 6 inches itwp ups be the perfect device. But damn it's so big. So now I'm thinking about returning it and grabbing either an S8, V30 or Z2 even.
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Check out the V30. It's a great phone. Body to screen ratio is awesome. The face detection works great. Battery life is great. A huge improvement over my Nexus 6p.
I had the Note 8 (unlocked US version) and then bought the V30...after about 3 days with the V30 I sold the Note 8.
You can see what I liked/disliked alone with camera samples from both on this thread if interested.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/initial-weekend-tmo-v30-t3685793
ern88 said:
Check out the V30. It's a great phone. Body to screen ratio is awesome. The face detection works great. Battery life is great. A huge improvement over my Nexus 6p.
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Thanks. I wish it had a notification light though
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barondebxl said:
Thanks. I wish it had a notification light though
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True. I miss that as well. But the always on display kind of makes up for it.
ern88 said:
True. I miss that as well. But the always on display kind of makes up for it.
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Have u guys considered the regular S8?
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barondebxl said:
Have u guys considered the regular S8?
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Yes, my wife has the S8 and I had the S8+. I prefer the V30 or Pixel 2 XL over them. I just love the aspect ration of the V30 so much more and it feels like the perfect size phone to me. Just wish I could get rid of some of the random lag and have it snappy like the Pixel
keithleger said:
Yes, my wife has the S8 and I had the S8+. I prefer the V30 or Pixel 2 XL over them. I just love the aspect ration of the V30 so much more and it feels like the perfect size phone to me. Just wish I could get rid of some of the random lag and have it snappy like the Pixel
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Oh damn random lag? No bueno lol. Im literally at the tmobile store about to exchsnge my note 8 for V30 or S8, still havent decided
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General Reviews

A few hands-on reviews are out. The consensus is decidedly mediocre. Disappointingly so.
Some common themes: battery life not great, device runs hot, and surprising to me, the camera in basic auto mode is really not that great. Causing me to rethink my pre-order.
https://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-1-III-Review_id5164
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Early...-heel-for-the-US-1-299-99-phone.549203.0.html
https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/sony-xperia-1-iii-review-it-could-have-been-magnificent-phone/
Another review. More detailed, and equally underwhelming.
Sony Xperia 1 III review
The Xperia 1 III launches with an asking price of $1300/€1300, and even if that includes a pair of noise-canceling headphones in most regions, the number...
www.gsmarena.com
count me in too on questioning my pre order. not sure what i'm going to do but leaning towards cancelling.
Last review I will post as they are all consistent:
My requirements are a headphone jack and micro SD storage. So I'm stuck as no other premium phone offers both. My only other option is a Moto G, I'm not inclined to move that far down the performance ladder.
The reviews got me thinking whether the Xperia 5 III may be a better choice. In principle, the screen should be less demanding on the same sized battery... Other downside is the lack of ToF sensor which I'm still not sure how much it downgrades the image quality of the otherwise same camera setup.
I mainly want this as my pocket camera. I find the cnet review as promising. He was impressed by the cameras, all of them. With any smartphone camera, imo you should only use the telephoto cameras outdoors in good light. He got some nice images with all 4 focal lengths of the camera. I'm now confident I can get some nice photos with the telephoto lenses, especially when using the pro camera app and choosing ISO and shutter speed. as far as the cnet review he disliked the price and the battery life. But he had a pre production unit and battery life is the last thing addressed usually with new software and devices. I'm kind of excited again.
elwuero said:
I mainly want this as my pocket camera. I find the cnet review as promising. He was impressed by the cameras, all of them. With any smartphone camera, imo you should only use the telephoto cameras outdoors in good light. He got some nice images with all 4 focal lengths of the camera. I'm now confident I can get some nice photos with the telephoto lenses, especially when using the pro camera app and choosing ISO and shutter speed. as far as the cnet review he disliked the price and the battery life. But he had a pre production unit and battery life is the last thing addressed usually with new software and devices. I'm kind of excited again.
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I think all the reviews I read, including this most recent one from Android Authority, are critical of the camera in low light settings. Another issue for me as I like to get a photo or two at concerts.
Sony Xperia 1 III review: Elegant, exhilarating, expensive
Sony's flagship smartphone packs some of the best hardware around, but should you buy it? Find out in this Sony Xperia 1 III review.
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gmfeld said:
I think all the reviews I read, including this most recent one from Android Authority, are critical of the camera in low light settings. Another issue for me as I like to get a photo or two at concerts.
Sony Xperia 1 III review: Elegant, exhilarating, expensive
Sony's flagship smartphone packs some of the best hardware around, but should you buy it? Find out in this Sony Xperia 1 III review.
www.androidauthority.com
they reject the phones night mode. Just go into the manual mode and do an exposure adjustment according to the histogram. Or just adjust the shutter speed and iso yourself and you should get a fantastic picture. Takes literally 7-8 seconds. And then you'll have the settings ready to go to take as many pictures as you want at the concert.
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I haven't cancelled my pre order (yet). i can live with only using the main camera in low light. at f1.7 the photos should be good and the reviews so far seem to support that.
from this review all i can say is as long as you know how to use the camera, all photos should look good. on my xperia 1 ii i would almost always shoot in program mode and would just keep the iso at 100 and occasionally raise it to 320. in this review he seems to be doing the same thing. love the histogram on screen, so helpful.
elwuero said:
from this review all i can say is as long as you know how to use the camera, all photos should look good. on my xperia 1 ii i would almost always shoot in program mode and would just keep the iso at 100 and occasionally raise it to 320. in this review he seems to be doing the same thing. love the histogram on screen, so helpful.
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I used a 1 Ii for quite some time and was able to get great pictures in program mode by just fiddling with the exposure compensation while looking at the histogram. Takes like 5 seconds and you've got a great picture. I guessing the 3 will take very similar pictures.
elwuero said:
count me in too on questioning my pre order. not sure what i'm going to do but leaning towards cancelling.
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You can always play with it for a few days and re-sell it for the same price as an "open box" product. It will certainly work if you live in the country where Sony doesn't sell phones officially and you have to import your device.
gmfeld said:
Last review I will post as they are all consistent:
My requirements are a headphone jack and micro SD storage. So I'm stuck as no other premium phone offers both. My only other option is a Moto G, I'm not inclined to move that far down the performance ladder.
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I bought LG V60 ThinQ for around $350 (4 times cheaper than Xperia!) for exactly the same reasons. Yes, it doesn't look as sexy as Xperia 1 III but it has plenty of power (more than I actually need), great battery life, best in business sound, not getting hot as hell etc.
It's all theory. To get any good night shot on Xperia 1 III you'll have to use stand and bluetooth shutter button. I used to had Xperia 1 II / 5 II and taking night photos with Xperia handheld was impossible. Don't think that Xperia 1 III is different.
chetly968 said:
I used a 1 Ii for quite some time and was able to get great pictures in program mode by just fiddling with the exposure compensation while looking at the histogram. Takes like 5 seconds and you've got a great picture. I guessing the 3 will take very similar pictures.
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Too much effort for $1300 smartphone to my opinion.
Not a complete review but I found this video entertaining.
btw, I decided to not cancel my pre order. B&H says I will have 30 days to return. I expect it will be my main camera/phone for at least a year.
Waiting on my pre order to arrive soon.
I really like my 1II and look foresees to the III. The only other phone that gets me excited is the Pixel 6 (if it doesn't have a curved screen)
Can't ever go Chinese as I need updates decently on schedule. Samsung has dropped prices a bit but no sd card and the same cameras and worse screen...
Their ultra is too heavy for comfortable one hand usage
I bailed on the Experia and cancelled my order with B&H. Going to get the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra. No headphone jack and no sd storage slot, but I couldn't get comfortable with the Experia reviews I was reading, particularly the camera.
I had the ultra also. Traded it in while it was still worth a lot. The weight and one handed use was not my favorite and its hard to get a glass screen protector that works with the ultrasonic finger print reader. It didn't have enough memory and with no sd card I was forced to stream music.
But it takes great pics.
gmfeld said:
I bailed on the Experia and cancelled my order with B&H. Going to get the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra. No headphone jack and no sd storage slot, but I couldn't get comfortable with the Experia reviews I was reading, particularly the camera.
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The same. Really kept my finger on pre-order button for a week but after numerous rather underwhelming camera performance reviews decided to buy nearly 3 times cheaper Galaxy S21.

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