Well, guys and girls I want to hear from you why to get (or not) HTC One M8 over SGS5 as owners of that first phone. I have two weeks to decide, but at that point I'm not sure which one to pick.
Currently I have SGS3, stock rooted, unlocked + Xposed tweaks, running TSF Launcher.
What I'm looking for? Ability to root, unlock and customize little bit stock ROM using Xposed. Launcher, probably, I will replace with TSF anyway.
Thanks for any feedback
Well I'll tell you.. Having come from two galaxy phones this phone is a welcome treat. Fast and flawless. Without question the best smart phone I have ever owned.. You can't trip up the phone. After about a week of getting used to it you will never look back.
Good luck
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Had the sGS3 and sGS4 in the past. Got the m8 and nothing compares to it. Just an awesome phone. Only thing I miss from my Galaxy is the Omoled screen. Black colors were black. More vibrant the colors too. But this screen is great too. The built quality is amazing. And I pretty much had enough with the Galaxys home button. Tap to wake in the HTC One m8 works great. Only wish the power button was on the right side below the volume rocker. Would be easier to press to lock the phone. But hey, at least they moved from the top left side to the top right. Easier to rich then before (if you are a righty of course). GO WITH THE HTC ONE m8. No regrets.
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One M8 is the best period
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Scyzor said:
What I'm looking for? Ability to root, unlock and customize little bit stock ROM using Xposed. Launcher, probably, I will replace with TSF anyway.
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From what I hear, the AT&T GS5 has root now, so the rest will follow (if not possible already). So this shouldn't be much of a factor in your decision.
Posting in the M8 forum, you likely won't get a very objective result.
Also, there is a related thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2780334
Of course, the mention of lack of root for the GS5 is not longer relevant. But you will see various opinions comparing the 2 phones, reasons (aside from root) why we picked the M8, etc.
Personally, the M8 just looks and feels much better designed and built. The GS5 isn't "bad". If HTC didn't exist, I'd probably think the GS5 was pretty nice. But of course, that isn't the case, and HTC simply has higher end physical design. I also love the front facing speakers and the audio quality you get from them. Maybe not relevant for everyone. But its one of the reasons I picked the M8, and quite happy I made that decision.
Few more questions related to M8:
- What about not removable battery - is an issue there? I have often removed battery in my SGS3 do too boot issues after flashing or just freezes.
- Does Xposed framework works properly on M8? For an example GravityBox has big incompatibility with SGS3 stock ROM.
Thanks
redpoint73 said:
From what I hear, the AT&T GS5 has root now, so the rest will follow (if not possible already). So this shouldn't be much of a factor in your decision.
Posting in the M8 forum, you likely won't get a very objective result.
Also, there is a related thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2780334
Of course, the mention of lack of root for the GS5 is not longer relevant. But you will see various opinions comparing the 2 phones, reasons (aside from root) why we picked the M8, etc.
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What I have heard that is not "real" root. Some files are still in read mode only.
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What I have heard that is not "real" root. Some files are still in read mode only.
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Can't comment on that, as I haven't been following closely. If that is the case, then it may still be a consideration in your purchase choice.
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Scyzor said:
Few more questions related to M8:
- What about not removable battery - is an issue there? I have often removed battery in my SGS3 do too boot issues after flashing or just freezes.
- Does Xposed framework works properly on M8? For an example GravityBox has big incompatibility with SGS3 stock ROM.
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1) No, lack of removable battery (for sake of doing a "battery pull") is not an issue. Every device without a user accessible battery has some button combo hardwired to reboot the phone, same as a battery pull. On the M8, you hold power and vol up buttons until the phone restarts.
2) Can't say about GravityBox in particular. But I've used other Xposed modules, and everything works fine AFAIK.
I am telling you why you should buy the Galaxy S5.
First of all, it isn't true that the HTC One M8 has a much better build quality. It is very slippery and you will find yourself dropping it a lot if you don't put a case on. But if you buy a case, what's the point of having a aluminum phone?
I have the gold variant of the Galaxy S5 and I think it is the best color for this phone. It doesn't look like a band aid or whatever they call it. Actuall, it is actually like a light gold color and when you put the phone in direct sunlight it looks more like Silver, which looks beautiful.
Also, the battery is noticeably better on the Galaxy S5, especially with Ultra Power Saving Mode where the display turns black and white. Also, you can replace the batteries if you want.
Also, water resitant capabilities. I'm coming from a Galaxy S3 and I never thought water resistant capabilities would be useful but now that I am on vacation, it is very useful. I've taken the phone inside the pool many times and also those water splashes from people jumping into the pool won't be a problem for your phone.
Root? My phone is already rooted and I have already all the apps I need. I don't plan on switching to a custom ROM because the performance is just amazing. There is no lag whatsoever and this comes from someone who hated the Galaxy S3 awful performance.
The camera, there is no comparison. 16 MP vs dual 4 MP? Pixels are not everything, but the detail you will get with the Galaxy S5 camera is unparalleled.
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Can't comment on that, as I haven't been following closely. If that is the case, then it may still be a consideration in your purchase choice.
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So how it looks that in a M8 case? Does root and SIM unlock is not complicated/time consuming? Long time ago my wife had HTC Aria and to root it and SIM unlock was a pain
Thin_Bezel said:
I am telling you why you should buy the Galaxy S5.
Root? My phone is already rooted and I have already all the apps I need. I don't plan on switching to a custom ROM because the performance is just amazing. There is no lag whatsoever and this comes from someone who hated the Galaxy S3 awful performance.
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I have heard that root is a partial root. Two persons confirmed. They are lurkers here in XDA forums, but know the stuff. Also have heard it works only on kernel builds before June. No clue if new phones have another kernel build.
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The camera, there is no comparison. 16 MP vs dual 4 MP? Pixels are not everything, but the detail you will get with the Galaxy S5 camera is unparalleled.
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Fair points. However, M8 camera wins in low light (as its intended). Low light being just about anything but outdoors in daytime. Depends on how you personally use your camera. But many (probably most) my pics are indoors.
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Scyzor said:
So how it looks that in a M8 case? Does root and SIM unlock is not complicated/time consuming? Long time ago my wife had HTC Aria and to root it and SIM unlock was a pain
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I personally thought it was easy. Many coming from Samsung devices will complain its "more complicated".
With any new device and new manufacturer, things will be different and there will be a learning curve.
I'm guessing it might take you an hour or 2 to unlock the bootloader, install custom recovery, s-off and SIM unlock. I am the father of a 3 year old child, not much free time, and still got it all done 1 day after I bought the phone.
In order to keep the thread count down, especially on something that is not specifically about the M8 (this thread is just as much about the S5, which you have an identical thread in that forum), I am closing this.
You can continue the discussion here though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229761
And get lots more opinions on the matter.
Good luck with your purchase! :good:
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I'm considering getting an Amaze 4G from Wind Canada this week and I just had a few questions:
Bootloader - I don't intend to root or install ROMs on it for quite some time (I've already done my fair share of rooting on my current phone). I do however, want the option to be able to root and install ROMs on the phone for whenever HTC abandons the Amaze 4G (hopefully not for a good while) and I want to update it myself. While a locked bootloader probably doesn't mean no custom ROMs, based on my experience with my current locked bootloader phone - it makes things harder.
I've seen reports that the Wind version has a locked bootloader. I've also seen mixed statements about the ability to unlock it. Is it or is it not possible?
General opinions - What has your experience been with the HTC Amaze 4g? Would you recommend it? Why and why not? I'd just like to be aware of any shortcomings this phone has as well as users general feeling about it and anything else I should know.
Thanks for the help!
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I'm considering getting an Amaze 4G from Wind Canada this week and I just had a few questions:
Bootloader - I don't intend to root or install ROMs on it for quite some time (I've already done my fair share of rooting on my current phone). I do however, want the option to be able to root and install ROMs on the phone for whenever HTC abandons the Amaze 4G (hopefully not for a good while) and I want to update it myself. While a locked bootloader probably doesn't mean no custom ROMs, based on my experience with my current locked bootloader phone - it makes things harder.
I've seen reports that the Wind version has a locked bootloader. I've also seen mixed statements about the ability to unlock it. Is it or is it not possible?
General opinions - What has your experience been with the HTC Amaze 4g? Would you recommend it? Why and why not? I'd just like to be aware of any shortcomings this phone has as well as users general feeling about it and anything else I should know.
Thanks for the help!
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It is possible to unlock the bootloader but it seems hit or miss with Telus and Wind users.
It's a solid built device with incredible specs. But it does have some minor flaws.
The screen bleed is my #1 pet peeve.
Issues with wifi and bluetooth have also been reported.
The battery is much better than any other device that I've encountered.
I can go about a full day with moderate use before having to charge my device.
Results may vary depending on individual conditions.
Camera is great quality, but audio for video camera sucks! It seems to have some kind of high pitch feedback or squeel to it. Hard to explain.
I don't care with the method to access the microsd card. You must remove the battery cover to remove it. Some phones don't require this. But not all phones have the antenna in the battery cover either. It's intimidating to me at least to be removing the battery cover over and over again just to remove/replace the sdcard. Maybe if I somehow mess up the antenna HTC will send me a new one?
That's all that I can think of. I like to think that I'm unbiased but actually I'm quite bitter toward HTC because of their reaction to the open source kernel that isn't fully open. They openly refused to release the wifi drivers and we can't easily update the kernel. So this so called "developer friendly" device is anything but. That being said... we probably won't be seeing much development for this device until HTC changes their attitude.
On WIND here and unlocked my bootloader yesterday it works fine.
not sure about BT, but probably the same cause as the wifi problems.
CASES cause the signal for wifi to drop significantly. I'm using a TPU case and wifi sucks balls. But once i remove it, BAM~! strong signals. I would like to add that my wifi signal on my amaze is stronger then the gs2 that i used for a couple days before giving it to my sister. However, gs2 connects faster like... 2 secs faster lol
I actually wrote a review on the Amaze and I included a video. I will post the link to it. If it is not allowed, mods please remove it.
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I actually wrote a review on the Amaze and I included a video. I will post the link to it. If it is not allowed, mods please remove it.
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How about I add the Youtube video instead? That's allowed.
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How about I add the Youtube video instead? That's allowed.
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If that's allowed, then it works with me. Thanks.
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I really like this phone, much better industrial design than the Samsung. I've rooted it and am using Crackeyes latest ROM which is very clean and stable, everything seems to work. Battery life is much better than my last phone (HD2) and I ponied up and got the Anker battery & charger which seems to last about 30-40% longer than the stock. I have noticed that certain apps will drain the battery very quickly, I put on a loan calc app and overnight it sucked the battery dry, about 40% worth.
My only beef is with the wifi calling feature & I'm not sure if this is phone or tmo related but there is lots of latency and artifacts when using this. You can tell the person on the other end is struggling to decipher what I'm saying, it's kind of like the old satellite phones where you talk and there is a half second delay so you end up talking over the other person.
Other than that it's got great ID, rock solid performance, a great camera, screen, no wifi issues that I can tell, it's all good.
syrenz said:
I'm considering getting an Amaze 4G from Wind Canada this week and I just had a few questions:
Bootloader - I don't intend to root or install ROMs on it for quite some time (I've already done my fair share of rooting on my current phone). I do however, want the option to be able to root and install ROMs on the phone for whenever HTC abandons the Amaze 4G (hopefully not for a good while) and I want to update it myself. While a locked bootloader probably doesn't mean no custom ROMs, based on my experience with my current locked bootloader phone - it makes things harder.
I've seen reports that the Wind version has a locked bootloader. I've also seen mixed statements about the ability to unlock it. Is it or is it not possible?
General opinions - What has your experience been with the HTC Amaze 4g? Would you recommend it? Why and why not? I'd just like to be aware of any shortcomings this phone has as well as users general feeling about it and anything else I should know.
Thanks for the help!
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I picked up the HTC Amaze 4G from Wind Mobile today, and I've got to say, coming from a Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000, I was very impressed.
Back in my SGS, I was a custom ROM enthusiast and tried almost every ROM that XDA had to offer for that handset. I found myself using CM7 and MIUI the most on the SGS, so I was diving into this HTC Amaze 4G knowing that I wouldn't have the same selection of custom ROMs.
The bootloader at htcdev should work for Wind and Mobilicity now (pretty sure they recently updated). Within hours of bringing this phone home, I unlocked the bootloader, installed CWM, and flashed a bunch of ROMs and I must say, even though the selection is not as great as the SGS, the work being done here at XDA for the HTC Amaze 4G is spectacular.
This phone is very smooth. However, I found that my Samsung Galaxy S was able to achieve smoother scrolling through the homepages (it ran on MIUI and had scripts to optimize performance and RAM management) than the HTC Amaze 4G on stock Sense UI (probably due to all the widgets and the scrolling animation). Once I flashed the BeastROM with the AOSP look, everything was as smooth as butter right off the bat.
The build quality is unlike any other Android I've seen, and while it may weigh more than other phones in this tier (Samsung Galaxy S II for example), it feels like a very solid and premium product when you hold it in your hand - this means that it'll probably be less prone to drops, but when they do drop, expect dents and cracks. Also, one thing I love about this phone is the notification LED, which can be set to flash on certain alerts, etc.
While the screen may not be as vibrant and colourful as Samsung's Super AMOLED Plus, the Super LCD screen is still very beautiful and holds its own. The camera is one of the best I've seen on a mobile phone.
I've only had this device for about 5 hours (stock HTC) and a little less than that circling through the custom ROMs, but I can already assure you that this handset is no slouch. The screen bleed from the backlit soft buttons will annoy some users, but it's something that doesn't bother me much.
I picked up this handset from Wind Mobile for $99 on the $29 monthly plan with unlimited talk, text, and data, and it's awesome.
Can more of you guys confirm crappy voice quality while doing video, and the 'death grip' issue like on Sensation? I'm coming from sensation and wondering if it's worthwhile to switch; and Amaze seems to have the same problems. Camera would be amaze's best asset - would you say?
Just got this and am loving so far. One question - is it just me or does the Wind version not have the same camera app as the other versions (the T-mobile)? It looks like the old HTC camera app and I don't see any of those fancy settings that I've seen in video reviews for this. Quality is amazing though...
Bronyr said:
Can more of you guys confirm crappy voice quality while doing video, and the 'death grip' issue like on Sensation? I'm coming from sensation and wondering if it's worthwhile to switch; and Amaze seems to have the same problems. Camera would be amaze's best asset - would you say?
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I haven't experienced the death grip issue on either the Sensation or the Amaze. The sound on video is almost like a feedback noise (at least that what it sounds like to me) However, I still have my Sensation and I love them both. I really love the build quality and weight of this phone and the camera takes such nice pictures. I couldn't be happier.
Definitely NOT being sent from my HTC Amaze4G until Christmas Day.....Okay it is
The amaze is an excellent build, the weight of it makes it feel solid, snappy quick, the camera is excellent, actually has replaced my digital, and has a beautiful screen . . . Coming from the hd2 this thing rock, had to replace one cause I borked the USB port but neither one has had the creak some have, and both have had screen bleed but it's so light it's barely noticeable.
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Also in true HTC fashion they used different screens, my first had the same display as my second but didn't have gorilla glass and scratched real easy, my second has gorilla glass or something like it cause it's nearly impossible to scratch
thompsd said:
My only beef is with the wifi calling feature & I'm not sure if this is phone or tmo related but there is lots of latency and artifacts when using this. You can tell the person on the other end is struggling to decipher what I'm saying, it's kind of like the old satellite phones where you talk and there is a half second delay so you end up talking over the other person.
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I've used WiFi calling from my home WLAN since the device update and it's worked great. Have you tried on other WiFi networks? Also, mine is still unrooted with stock ROM (obviously), and I've heard that because HTC hasn't released the WiFi drivers there may be some WiFi issues with aftermarket ROMs. Have you tried with the stock ROM?
In every other sense though, I agree. This is a phenomenal piece of hardware, and I really like the camera (much of it I'm sure due to the camera app...lots of fun toys!). Unfortunately mine is on "loan" from T-Mobile, so I'm not ready to root or play with it yet. I can only imagine how amazingly this phone would run on something like CM9. *drool*
Since I don't have enough posts here yet, can't post a link, but I've reviewed the phone on mytwistedbrain_DOT_com if you're interested.
i love the phone itself but sort of regret getting it. I guess its my own fault for not looking up more into htc phones but coming from a GN where all you need is unlock and root when i saw we had that i got it, didnt realize with htc you need soff too. Then i foudn out no htc phones with no sdcard have soff yet. Im not a fan of sense and prefer the stock android experience or aokp only. anyone else feel like this? i love the phone, but dont like the soff situation with htc, and cant think of a better phone to switch to either cus i dont want the s3. and unfortunately nexus 4 isnt for verizon
I can relate to what you are saying.
For me, I set my expectation of this phone to be a great consumer phone, not a developer phone. So I decided not to root it or installing custom rom on it. Just use Android as a daily phone this time.
I have spent way too much time and energy on GNex switching between rom , which is something I really regret after a while. Not just full wipe everytime, but there is simply no single best rom can meet all asks. many of them are great initially, then slowly become slow and buggy, which I really can't figure out why, including CM10.
So that's why I look beyond such issues for HTC DNA, but evaluate it from a consumer point of view, "apple-type" user, if you will.
And I keep my galaxy nexus to play with, "in my lab".
If your expectation was to make this to be a full developer unit... it may not be the right phone, and verizon is not the right carrier in this case.
Many says playing around with all roms are "fun", but after long time of "playing around the roms" with more than 5 state-of-the-art smart phones in past 2 years, I will control myself on such "fun".
just some thoughts.
I feel the same
I feel the exact same way. No doubt about it though, the phone is great and the screen is amazing! I am just not a fan on Sense. I love me some AOSP. The phone also feels a little too big for my likes.
I am contemplating returning the DNA and getting the Developer Edition of the Razr HD. But if I did that, I might end up in the same boat as I do NOT have the skills needed to complile AOSP from source and get it running on the Razr HD.
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I agree. I knre it wuldnt be much of a developer device. My main hope was jus for it to get aokp fully working. But not as much dev as the nexus with all their highly featured kernels, tbh i wish my nexus didnt break cus id still be on it. Im not a fan of "consumer" devices just because i like full access to my electronics. But its my own fwult for not researchin roms with htc lol. I dnt switch off verizon til december
Pudge
Can that be swapped out with the 14day return period?
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Jiwengabg
I agree. I knre it wuldnt be much of a developer device. My main hope was jus for it to get aokp fully working. But not as much dev as the nexus with all their highly featured kernels, tbh i wish my nexus didnt break cus id still be on it. Im not a fan of "consumer" devices just because i like full access to my electronics. But its my own fwult for not researchin roms with htc lol. I dnt switch off verizon til december
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Can that be swapped out with the 14day return period?
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So return it...done...no regrets. The phone has been out 6 days...u guys have to be kidding me...there will be plenty of ROMs to choose from in no time.
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So return it...done...no regrets. The phone has been out 6 days...u guys have to be kidding me...there will be plenty of ROMs to choose from in no time.
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Side effect of these guys being from the "Now" generation.
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Side effect of these guys being from the "Now" generation.
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No kidding. But also - just because we don't currently have S-Off, and correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no reason we won't have custom ROMs to play with. We can still write to the System partition in Recovery, which means you can flash a custom ROM in recovery.
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Can that be swapped out with the 14day return period?
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Not that I know of. If I decided to swap phones, I would have to return DNA to Verizon and then buy the Razr HD from Moto. Should not be difficult though.
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SolusCado said:
No kidding. But also - just because we don't currently have S-Off, and correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no reason we won't have custom ROMs to play with. We can still write to the System partition in Recovery, which means you can flash a custom ROM in recovery.
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You are correct. ROMs and kernels will still able to be flashed with the phone being unlocked and s-on. Just can not make changes to /system while outside of recovery.
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No regrets.
For those of you that don't like sense, install Nova launcher... problem solved.
No regrets. We'll get ROMs soon enough, the phone has only been out a week. Massively impressed with the battery life and screen, and my only gripe is sense.
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Not that I know of. If I decided to swap phones, I would have to return DNA to Verizon and then buy the Razr HD from Moto. Should not be difficult though.
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You are correct. ROMs and kernels will still able to be flashed with the phone being unlocked and s-on. Just can not make changes to /system while outside of recovery.
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On the ROM flashing front - I'm trying to think of a scenario where you would make changes to /system while outside of recovery. Every time I flashed a ROM on my GNex I would reboot into CWM anyway - I'm assuming the only things that actually made changes to /system while not in recovery would be things like kernel controls?
It kills me that people buy an HTC phone and complain about Sense. It isn't like they "snuck" Sense on this phone behind your back.
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No regrets.
For those of you that don't like sense, install Nova launcher... problem solved.
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lol
This was the choice for most people that were tired of their GNex's, since Verizon won't work with the N4. Most of those people are used to stock AOSP, so its understandable. I came from the Inc, to Inc2, to GNex, and it was still a bit of a shock for me to go back to Sense.
I think most people also assumed that the development on this phone would be similar to what it was like on the GNex, which is not the case. Hopefully we get some stock android stuff going pretty soon so we can all rest easy
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It kills me that people buy an HTC phone and complain about Sense. It isn't like they "snuck" Sense on this phone behind your back.
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No kidding! Although I have to say that while I always liked Sense (way back from the Windows Mobile days), I stopped using it once phone screen sizes got bigger because Sense just made everything too big... and with some DPI tweaks I have actually found Sense to be quite usable on the DNA... I'm still trying to settle on my favorite launcher for this phone, but at least this time around Sense is in the running.
If I could get a zip that modifies it to a 5/4 or 5/5 layout it probably wouldn't even be a competition. For the record, other contenders are Chameleon Launcher, Apex, and SPB Shell 3D (in either Smartphone or Tablet mode)... Still can't make a decision. :silly:
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It kills me that people buy an HTC phone and complain about Sense. It isn't like they "snuck" Sense on this phone behind your back.
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i love this too. I got this phone because of sense and the screen! you all know it has sense I just love to hear people complain and it somehow puts up better numbers than the nexus 4 with aosp right out of the box. This phone hasnt even got roms yet just got unlocked! wait until s-off and then people will have their flavor of aosp or sense! And also remember how long it took for galaxy s3 to get unlocked? it could take awhile so we will see how many true HTC followers there is here or just people jumping ship for the next great quad core 1080p phone. should be interesting. The positives outweigh the negatives for me! Whenever i use phone i dont regret it for a second! Sense is one of the most extensive and nicest setups in android by far to me!
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No kidding! Although I have to say that while I always liked Sense (way back from the Windows Mobile days), I stopped using it once phone screen sizes got bigger because Sense just made everything too big... and with some DPI tweaks I have actually found Sense to be quite usable on the DNA... I'm still trying to settle on my favorite launcher for this phone, but at least this time around Sense is in the running.
If I could get a zip that modifies it to a 5/4 or 5/5 layout it probably wouldn't even be a competition. For the record, other contenders are Chameleon Launcher, Apex, and SPB Shell 3D (in either Smartphone or Tablet mode)... Still can't make a decision. :silly:
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What did you end up setting the lcd density to?
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What did you end up setting the lcd density to?
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Well, I like a lot of screen real estate, and sharp, small-ish text (I bought a 13" Macbook Pro just for that 2560x1600 resolution - and I'm using Windows 7 on it), but I have my DPI set to 370. Android Pro Widgets replace any of the Sense widgets where possible (SMS, Agenda) because they can render a smaller font, but I still use the native 4x1 Clock/Weather widget, and of course the Mail widget - and I have all my quick launch items set to use folders - System, Social, Travel, and Multimedia.
s-off is coming
s-off is coming dsb said that is was close. I was a strong "htc" until the galaxy s3 came out back in July. After being frustrated with Samsungs weak radios i came back home to HTC. I was on the fence between this and the note 2 but after playing with the phone on launch day I bought it. And now the note 2 comes out in 2 days and i could care less.
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This was the choice for most people that were tired of their GNex's, since Verizon won't work with the N4. Most of those people are used to stock AOSP, so its understandable. I came from the Inc, to Inc2, to GNex, and it was still a bit of a shock for me to go back to Sense.
I think most people also assumed that the development on this phone would be similar to what it was like on the GNex, which is not the case. Hopefully we get some stock android stuff going pretty soon so we can all rest easy
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I went from Sense to AOSP, back to Sense. Its definitely some culture shock, but I wouldn't have done it if I disliked Sense.
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s-off is coming dsb said that is was close. I was a strong "htc" until the galaxy s3 came out back in July. After being frustrated with Samsungs weak radios i came back home to HTC. I was on the fence between this and the note 2 but after playing with the phone on launch day I bought it. And now the note 2 comes out in 2 days and i could care less.
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I wouldn't expect s-off anytime soon, regardless of what dsb says.
Now if jcase says it, I will believe it (assuming he isn't doing his regular rickrolls).
Thanks to most of you for your help.
The Amaze has been replaced with an S3.
I spent way to many hours on that phone and with that being my 3rd HTC phone issue I will not be purchasing one again.
On a plus note it is for sale with a ballistic case/powerskin and galaxy S2 for $375.
Phone works fine but just cannot see recocery or bootloader.
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I think I'll be following you close behind.
I gave up on this phone. But since all my latests phones were HTC I feel a bit orfan now...
I'm looking to move to a different brand but I can't stop thinking of HTC thinking of getting any other brand makes me feel like a traitor...
I've been lucky with the previous ones but this one is a different game, may be they come out with a good upgrade option from this one.
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Thanks to most of you for your help.
The Amaze has been replaced with an S3.
I spent way to many hours on that phone and with that being my 3rd HTC phone issue I will not be purchasing one again.
On a plus note it is for sale with a ballistic case/powerskin and galaxy S2 for $375.
Phone works fine but just cannot see recocery or bootloader.
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Congrats. I hope you are happy with your new phone. I've had none of the troubles that seem to plague the Amaze for some people on the Forum. I put the NRG ROM on first thing and have been happy ever since. It did take some tweaking to get the power profile right so it lasts all day.
I also have never had any real issues with this phone. I've used NRG for most of the last year. Combined with Faux kernels, my battery issues have been tamed. There has had a couple blips, to be expected when fooling around with non stock ROMS. Overall it's been very stable and trouble free.
I recently have been using Stock Deodexed, bloat removed, and faux's latest kernel. It definitely feels like the quickest Sense 3.6 Rom I've used, is very stable without any discernible lag, PLUS EVERYTHING WORKS!
I believe folks create more problems when flashing by not completely wiping, even for a restore. I'm even considering a second Amaze(or Sensation) for my wife. She has been clambering her phone is to slow.
HTC better get back to the removable battery and micro sd card if they want to reclaim a flagship handsets status.
Thirded! Also been running Faux and NRG and have had 0 issues with my phone. Love it and it's stability!
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I put the NRG ROM on first thing and have been happy ever since. It did take some tweaking to get the power profile right so it lasts all day.
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I was in the same situation but just one day the phone decided to start acting out and since thenthere is no rom, no kernel that works properly (not even stock ruu anymore) I guess I have hardware issues.
I don't even care about battery lasting since I have threeof them but it's really annoying when you try to pick up a call and you can't because the darn screen would not turn on.
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I was in the same situation but just one day the phone decided to start acting out and since thenthere is no rom, no kernel that works properly (not even stock ruu anymore) I guess I have hardware issues.
I don't even care about battery lasting since I have threeof them but it's really annoying when you try to pick up a call and you can't because the darn screen would not turn on.
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Yeah, that sounds like a hardware issue. I saw on thread that fixed this by simply wiping the proximity sensor with a cloth. Probably not your issue, but did you try cleaning that?
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I also have never had any real issues with this phone. I've used NRG for most of the last year. Combined with Faux kernels, my battery issues have been tamed. There has had a couple blips, to be expected when fooling around with non stock ROMS. Overall it's been very stable and trouble free.
I recently have been using Stock Deodexed, bloat removed, and faux's latest kernel. It definitely feels like the quickest Sense 3.6 Rom I've used, is very stable without any discernible lag, PLUS EVERYTHING WORKS!
I believe folks create more problems when flashing by not completely wiping, even for a restore. I'm even considering a second Amaze(or Sensation) for my wife. She has been clambering her phone is to slow.
HTC better get back to the removable battery and micro sd card if they want to reclaim a flagship handsets status.
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I'm interested in the ROM you describe, but I don't see exactly which one it is in the development forum. Can you post a link?
Sure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761683&highlight=stock+deodexed
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Yeah, that sounds like a hardware issue. I saw on thread that fixed this by simply wiping the proximity sensor with a cloth. Probably not your issue, but did you try cleaning that?
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Yes that was one of the first things I tried.
I've been doing different tests and it's still random but it's more frequent if I have it in my pocket and then I pull it out so I started to suspect it was related to service signal so I tried turning the screen on without the back cover installed and yes it seems worse that way but sometimes just to throw me off it does work.
I cannot find a solid pattern as to figure out what the problem is.
The only thing I can think of is just before this whole mess started, I was hooked with Hill climb racing game and playing it for quite a bit of time and remember feeling the phone getting pretty warm (more than I ever felt before) so I don't know if something blew up.
My life long goal has been to get back onto a nexus devices, since i left the Galaxy nexus. Just wondering who else is switching.
I am really excited we got bump for the G3 but unfortunately i will be gone before i can even use it. I did just read the XDA article Android L is for Lockdown and that scares the hell out of me with the future of these devices with locked bootloaders.
I will be stalking until the N6 release, but wish the best rom-wise for you guys.
Anyone else excited/switching for the N6
My one hope is the camera is half as good as the G3
Have fun with no SD card lol
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My life long goal has been to get back onto a nexus devices, since i left the Galaxy nexus. Just wondering who else is switching.
I am really excited we got bump for the G3 but unfortunately i will be gone before i can even use it. I did just read the XDA article Android L is for Lockdown and that scares the hell out of me with the future of these devices with locked bootloaders.
I will be stalking until the N6 release, but wish the best rom-wise for you guys.
Anyone else excited/switching for the N6
My one hope is the camera is half as good as the G3
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Nope never lol no SD card no buy lol
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I would probably switch if it wasn't $650.
I do love that my Nexus 7 2012 gets updates so quickly even 3 years later.
Maybe stop back here and let us know how it is.
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Maybe stop back here and let us know how it is.
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Will do.... We are all in this together!
Too big, no SD, no removable battery, no notification LED. It's a no for me.
Yes, I know about the cloud, but I also like to store things locally. I don't always have connectivity.
Yes, it's got a big battery, but over time batteries lose capacity.
Yes, I know it has Motorola's Active Notifications, but I had a similar app on my last Samsung, and while it's cool, and useful, it's an adjunct to the LED, not a replacement.
I'm sure its a very good phone for people who don't care much about these things.
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Have fun with no SD card lol
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Nope never lol no SD card no buy lol
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Don't need sd card when you can get a usb otg drive or adapter and its just fine
I would test the n6 before leaving the G3, i sold my n5, so if i like that much the n6 the g3 would be my spare phone.
Minus the 805 and GPU they are similar in specs.
Plus once the G3 gets AOSP 5.0 it will be hard to compare to the N6 IMO.
I got the G3 due to it's hardware and will be holding onto it for 2 years. I just now felt the need to upgrade from my S3. The S3 with AOSP is a great device.
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Minus the 805 and GPU they are similar in specs.
Plus once the G3 gets AOSP 5.0 it will be hard to compare to the N6 IMO.
I got the G3 due to it's hardware and will be holding onto it for 2 years. I just now felt the need to upgrade from my S3. The S3 with AOSP is a great device.
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I feel like the N6 will be more stable on the AOSP side of things. I just cant have my phone crashing etc
I ran the G2 with AOSP for the first month or so and it was known stop crashing issues. I am sure they have resolved now, but it was super sucky while it was going on, and ultimately made me get a new phone.
im thinking about swithing, but not having the sd card is huge dissapointment for me. ill have to wait for it to come out and test it out before switching. The plus for g3 is that soon there will be a bunch of roms and maybe a kernel or 2. if this happens, ill stick with the g3 and optimize it like hell.
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im thinking about swithing, but not having the sd card is huge dissapointment for me. ill have to wait for it to come out and test it out before switching. The plus for g3 is that soon there will be a bunch of roms and maybe a kernel or 2. if this happens, ill stick with the g3 and optimize it like hell.
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I always say the same thing then never put anything on it ever. Removable battery had me a bit worried but I will deal for a nexus.
I'm tempted but I really seem to be liking some of LG's add-ons... I like being able to use things like the Google launcher and keyboard while still having neat little tricks like Qslide and split screen... We'll see once it comes out. Plus I have like 3 batteries with the charger and a 64gb SD card that would be useless on the N6...
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I'm tempted but I really seem to be liking some of LG's add-ons... I like being able to use things like the Google launcher and keyboard while still having neat little tricks like Qslide and split screen... We'll see once it comes out. Plus I have like 3 batteries with the charger and a 64gb SD card that would be useless on the N6...
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Split screen is solved with roms.
Not really happening for me... I like the replaceable battery and my entire music collection resides on a 128GB miniSD card. I could always eBay the card but the collection simply wouldn't fit on the Nexus 6. The Cloud really isn't an option here. And I've already played with a prototype (I work at one of the Big 4) and it really is a little too big for me. I guess I need bigger pockets. That all said, I'm sure it will rock and I wish everyone who switches the best of luck.
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Not really happening for me... I like the replaceable battery and my entire music collection resides on a 128GB miniSD card. I could always eBay the card but the collection simply wouldn't fit on the Nexus 6. The Cloud really isn't an option here. And I've already played with a prototype (I work at one of the Big 4) and it really is a little too big for me. I guess I need bigger pockets. That all said, I'm sure it will rock and I wish everyone who switches the best of luck.
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I wish the big 4 would announce dates.
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Split screen is solved with roms.
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Yeah but the only custom ROM I really trust is CM which doesn't have that. Is it omni rom that has split screen?
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Yeah but the only custom ROM I really trust is CM which doesn't have that. Is it omni rom that has split screen?
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They are all built off of CM. What do you not trust?
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They are all built off of CM. What do you not trust?
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I've tired quite a few different AOSP roms with quite a few different devices over the years and I've always had the best overall experience with CyanogenMod in terms of stability and features. That's why I trust them.
I loved my nexus I had last year after I smashed my s4. Rooted them both and got 4.4.2 on it since it was stuck on 4.1.2. I hope after a few weeks to switch to the n6 after people don't like it. Offer my g3 for trade plus cash. I've been watching this phone for a year. Even though the higher end android phones are coming out next year.
i have a zte grand x max+ now but who knows itf it will ever get root, so on this phone how is speaker quality is it loud?and the screen is it bright? and is the phone fluid opening and closing apps etc, after you root it to do some tweaks? thanks
as near as i can tell this would be superior to my Zte Grand x max+, they seem to be same both 720p display, same cpu&gpu, but the things that seem to me off hand would make it better is cpu is 1.2 on my Zte, and 1.6 on this, and this is rootable, but im still looking for opinions from owners of this phone
Phone is amazing. I am rooted with a bunch of xposed modules installed. No issues at all. Fast and smooth operation, and network speeds on MetroPCS are super-fast. I was skeptical about getting this phone, but I am super happy with it. Of course, the battery life is just insane. I don't use the speakerphone much, but when I do, it is plenty loud for me. The screen is beautiful as well. You can always get it from Amazon, they have a great return policy.
I second the suggestion of buying this from Amazon. That's what I did and my 30 day return window is almost up. But I am keeping this phone. I am also rooted and have Nova installed as well. The battery life just blows your mind. I do one long charge on the weekend and that's it. Maybe ten or twenty minutes charges once in a while.
Does it get pretty good cell signal? I'm looking to replace a Galaxy Note 2, which I recently dropped and busted. :crying:
I've been a Samsung user for a few years, but my Note 2 got crappy cell signal compared to the S3 that I replaced (on AT&T, btw, same number and sim card). I was looking at a used Note 4, but don't really feel like dishing out >$500 on a decent used one, and you still can't root the AT&T/Verizon versions, as far as I know. I know you can root the T-Mobile version, but still not too interested in spending the big bucks.
This one's been getting pretty decent reviews for a mid-tier phone, and I'm a fan of big screens (I like to read/watch videos a lot). This one looks like it would fit the bill. I think I just read that Huawei is going to release Android L (Lollipop?) some time in the first half of this year, so that's a plus.
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Does it get pretty good cell signal?
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I have a Mate2 on T-Mobile and I get 4G LTE pretty much everywhere I go. Although that might be on T-Mobile's part, not the phone.
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I think I just read that Huawei is going to release Android L (Lollipop?) some time in the first half of this year, so that's a plus.
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Yes, you read that right. We're just past the first half of the first half of this year, so hopefully we see some more info soon.
ScoobSTi, how do you like the phone?
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I have a Mate2 on T-Mobile and I get 4G LTE pretty much everywhere I go. Although that might be on T-Mobile's part, not the phone.
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Well, that gives me hope. I'm pretty sure my signal problems at home were phone related. Got decent signal on AT&T with my Galaxy S3 (which I still have), but when I switched to a Note 2, signal went down the toilet. And I would lose signal with regularity in any big box store (Walmart, Target, etc).
Anyway, ordered! I'm hoping some custom roms become available; I'm used to the plethora of choices available for the Samsung phones, hope I can play around with this one a bit.
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ScoobSTi, how do you like the phone?
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Love it! I'm in school full-time and I don't have time to worry about the battery percentage, bringing chargers, finding outlets, etc. I need a phone that does everything I ask of it and lasts long as well. As for the specs, yes they aren't great, but it's still snappy and responsive. Almost on par with my sister's Nexus 5. Occasionally there are dropped frames or app crashes, but that's sadly typical of Android. Sometimes I get a bit annoyed with the size of the phone but that only happens when I wear slim or skinny jeans. No, I'm not worried about bending it!
The only real problem I have is with the software. Like I said, I just need a phone that works, and it does, but EMUI doesn't look nice. I could deal with it but the dreams of getting CM11 or CM12 on this make me a bit impatient.
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Well, that gives me hope. I'm pretty sure my signal problems at home were phone related. Got decent signal on AT&T with my Galaxy S3 (which I still have), but when I switched to a Note 2, signal went down the toilet. And I would lose signal with regularity in any big box store (Walmart, Target, etc).
Anyway, ordered! I'm hoping some custom roms become available; I'm used to the plethora of choices available for the Samsung phones, hope I can play around with this one a bit.
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We have a dev working on CM11 AND CM12, but he's been busy with work (*cough* Cyanogen) so there hasn't been progress lately. Also, thanks for reminding me about those big stores. I forgot, I DO lose signal in places like BJ's. I always thought it was because of the building itself though.
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Also, thanks for reminding me about those big stores. I forgot, I DO lose signal in places like BJ's. I always thought it was because of the building itself though.
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It is the building, also - those buildings have a lot of infrastructure between your phone and the cell towers, but some phones have better antennas than others. For example, my wife has an iPhone 5, and she gets a signal in them, while I'm staring at a crossed out circle for my signal indicator. And I don't remember completely losing signal with my S3 as I did with my Note 2, although I would lose a bar or two. I'm back using my S3 right now, since my Note 2 went tits up - I'll check it out next time I'm out and about.
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ScoobSTi said:
The only real problem I have is with the software. Like I said, I just need a phone that works, and it does, but EMUI doesn't look nice. I could deal with it but the dreams of getting CM11 or CM12 on this make me a bit impatient.
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Yeah, the UI is the main thing that had me hesitating. All of the reviews I've read about it list it as a negative - I know I can always install a different launcher, but those sometimes come with their own problems. I think the Android L release is supposed come with the 3.0 version of the UI. I haven't read much about it yet, but I'm hoping it's better than the current version. And, of course, I'll be a happy camper when CM11 or CM12 is released! Not too concerned about it in the interim, though, as I don't tend to get too crazy with the UI customizations.
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Yeah, the UI is the main thing that had me hesitating. All of the reviews I've read about it list it as a negative - I know I can always install a different launcher, but those sometimes come with their own problems. I think the Android L release is supposed come with the 3.0 version of the UI. I haven't read much about it yet, but I'm hoping it's better than the current version. And, of course, I'll be a happy camper when CM11 or CM12 is released! Not too concerned about it in the interim, though, as I don't tend to get too crazy with the UI customizations.
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Yes, we are supposed to get EMUI 3 as well. You can check it out here. Looks pretty nice, if you ask me.
is this version rootable? http://swappa.com/listing/DRN961/view i was looking in android devolpment i did not see root for the lo3 version thanks
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is this version rootable? http://swappa.com/listing/DRN961/view i was looking in android devolpment i did not see root for the lo3 version thanks
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Yeah, it's been done. Try the links below - just be sure to make a nandroid backup of your stock rom before making any changes...Android L is supposed be released sometime in the next few months. Pretty sure you'll need the stock rom for OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ascend-mate2/general/progress-rooting-ham2-t2867975
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
http://forum.xda-developers.com/asc.../2014-09-22-teamwin-recovery-project-t2885144
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Yeah, it's been done. Try the links below - just be sure to make a nandroid backup of your stock rom before making any changes...Android L is supposed be released sometime in the next few months. Pretty sure you'll need the stock rom for OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ascend-mate2/general/progress-rooting-ham2-t2867975
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
http://forum.xda-developers.com/asc.../2014-09-22-teamwin-recovery-project-t2885144
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thanks, have you got youres yet? if so how do you like it? my zte grand x max+ would be fine if i could root it and freeze the crap i dont want, but alas i didnt know ZTE,S nickname was "FORT KNOX" locking their phones down
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thanks, have you got youres yet? if so how do you like it? my zte grand x max+ would be fine if i could root it and freeze the crap i dont want, but alas i didnt know ZTE,S nickname was "FORT KNOX" locking their phones down
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No, just ordered one a couple of days ago from Ebay - should arrive this week sometime. I wanted something with a large screen, but wasn't interested in paying >$500 for a used Galaxy Note 4. The price point on this is great, and has a lot of decent features. I was looking at the OnePlus One, but it doesn't have expandable memory, something that's a must-have for me.
BTW, you'll probably need ADB and Fastboot - check out the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
The ascend mate is good in all aspects, the only time service gets choppy is in Walmarts
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can the lo3 version do at&t LTE?
found this on amazon about my question http://www.amazon.com/purchase-cont...m_cd_ql_tlc_al?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00JPIAGW0 no idea how accurate it is
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can the lo3 version do at&t LTE?
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yes. L03 is the USA version and works great on att and T-Mobile LTE. I have it on Straighttalk using att towers. I get fast strong LTE coverage in my area and its great!
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yes. L03 is the USA version and works great on att and T-Mobile LTE. I have it on Straighttalk using att towers. I get fast strong LTE coverage in my area and its great!
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you like the phone? have you rooted yet?