On Comm Manager I find that if I have my carrier's GPRS settings installed then the data connection will turn itself on whenever some program or other sneakily phones home. The only resolution I can find is the 'wrecking bar solution' of removing the GPRS connection altogether from the connection options.
Unfortunately that means using GPRS, when I occasionally need it, is a very cumbersome process of having to install and then remove the settings each time.
I tried the 'Manila Dial-up enable/disabler' mentioned in another thread, but I find that this, rather than correcting the problem, just duplicates the 'wrecking bar solution' in that with it activated I can't turn GPRS Data on at all. If I deactivate dialup disabler, then as you might expect Data turns on unprompted at the next phone-home incident. Surprisingly though, and rather uselessly, when I reactivate the dialup disabler it doesn't turn Data off! So although well-intentioned this is a rather broken solution. It doesn't achieve the requirement, which is:
Data switch on: GPRS activated.
Data switch off: GPRS deactivated.
I say to myself, SUUURELY there has to be a better answer to this? The situation is a bit like going back to the 90's with analog modems dialling unprompted and racking-up a huge bill. Seems OS programmers never learn from previous design blunders.
Have a look for what doing it, check gps software for updating satellite options, check weather app & such like.
I find GPRS on WM6.5 perfect because can easily find and stop things automatically connecting to data with bit of a hunt & also use likes of dialup enabler disabler or GB-Soft Tweak to auto disconnect connections after short a time as 1 second of zero data.
I have mine setup with GPRS always enabled but not connected, I have no rouge app sneaking a connection but even if did it would auto disconnect meaning minimal data usage charge, also this way I can simply manually check a mail plus have my mail on a schedule & the data usage is absolute minimal thus so is the battery drain due to GPRS data use.
Not so easy on Android or iOS as have to turn data off or it milks your connection constantly.
Do some research & feel free ask more questions as this should be easily sorted .
Also perhaps take a look at the modaco nodata app
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/modaco-nodata-turn-mobile-internet-hspda-gprs-3g-edge-off/
Yet another option is Advanced Config, this has options turn data off & also set time out for auto disconnect ... menu > more settings > connections .
More options are:
Go to: Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Networks
then create a new connection without any Modem settings. And select that connection as your default Data connection.
Registry control
In the registry you’ve got the following key:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections
There are all your data connections.
Go inside every data connection and you’ll find a key “Enabled”.
This key has a value 0×1 (1) or 0×0 (0) - 1 means it the selected GPRS setting option & enabled, setting to 0 will disable this GPRS setting.
You could use mortscipt to make a custom toggle for your specific data connection. we can help here in this thread or go to the mortscript thread for help completing a custom data toggle script application.
CABs all added below as a lot of the WM5 to 6.5 stuff is leading to dead links .
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I've been using DCD 3.0.1 for a bit now, it's the only custom ROM this phone has seen, and I use TomTom Navigator 6 for trips, it works great! However, anytime I try to use TomTom Navigator 6, something in my phone tries to connect to #777 (data), then, because I don't have a data plan, it comes at me with a 'cannot connect for an unknown reason' bubble, which disables TomTom and freezes it in the background.. the bubble doesn't go away on it's own and I get this annoying 'cannot connect for an unknown reason' bubble at least 15 times per minute.
Anyone know how I can fully disable (not permanently) the phone from attempting to connect to the wireless data network?
-mak
I disabled the DATA connection (not wifi) on my HTC P4000 by modifying the registry. Look here:
http://www.slimcode.com/cs/blogs/ma...g-data-connection-on-an-htc-p4000-device.aspx
Looks great! How do I access the registry on this phone?
-mak
EDIT: Downloaded an app, done.. seems to be working well, thanks!
slimcode said:
I disabled the DATA connection (not wifi) on my HTC P4000 by modifying the registry. Look here:
http://www.slimcode.com/cs/blogs/ma...g-data-connection-on-an-htc-p4000-device.aspx
Click to expand...
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Hmmm, I didn't have that CDMA1X key, but that may be because I had already gone into into the Advanced Settings under Connections, edited my provider's internet connection, deleted its entry under Modem, and then deselected its connection to the internet under Proxy Settings.
If lacking a registry editor, that also disables automatic network connectivity.
Software App
Try NoData - This utility allows you to toggle the data connection when needed. However, it resets itself to "enabled" on a soft reset.
This might be a little too much but hey it works.
What I did was to go into the EPST settings by dialing ##778 ( Verizon -- Sprint or other might use a diffrent one )
and went into the modem settings and changed the Preferred mode to CDMA only.
This will kill all data connections and leave your normal voice / sms connection intact.
Once again this might be too much. ( I don't use the data connection that much / pure WiFi)
But if you want to disable wireless data on TOM TOM
go to the Main Menu -- Tom Tom PLUS Services -- and once your in this menu you will see an option to Disable or Enable Wireless Data.
Just disable it and you should be good.
OK all you tweakers. I have a Sprint TP. I am wondering if there is any software or tweaks that will shut off the 3G network after a specified time of inactivity. There was some free software that I downloaded (Hard drive crashed lost the software), but I think it was designed around, only worked on GPRS/Edge phones. It did not work on mine.
Any suggestions.
I used this instructions http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1892787&postcount=84 to disable EVDO and force 1x. Works a treat. But so far I do not see any improvement. It takes the same ~500mA to keep 1x data connection up, same as for EVDO. not sure how this will stack up during the day... But my prediction is that it will not be noticeable.
BTW, data connection is closed automatically when not in use, as far as I understand. You can see grey arrows icon at the top status bar.
Why would you want to force 1X EVDO is faster
Are you talking about shutting off the data connection if you are then download Advanced Configuration Tool and press Menu - More Settings - Connections - Then click on the Sprint on and set the disconnect time.
Yes, you can use Advanced Config > internet options, to turn the data connection off all the time, always on, or manual.
I use data a lot. But 1x sucks up more battery then EVDO.
I know, because I'm stuck on 1x all the time.
There is a force connection registry hack.
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\HiddenModeOperationPage
Change from 1 to 0
This will open the hidden page in the Phone>options>settings. Scroll down for the Mode of Operation page, and select the one you want.
If you select EVDO only often, it will get annoying clicking the Okay, to the pop up. You can just delete the registry entry for the menu. I cannot recall where it is at the moment. Might be in phone settings. It's called EVDO i belive. Check to make sure the thread says the same thing that the pop up does. Deleting it just gets rid of the box, doesn't stop functionality.
Chanhuff You hit the mark the option in advanced config was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the help
This question is for Chanhuff. I used advanced config, and made the change as you noted. Do you know if this effects connectivity based on staying connected to the network, if you are using the network (EVDO) for a longer period of time than the time out. Will it stay on, does the setting relate to inactivity only?
I set a time out for 10 minutes, and it seemed to effect some of my features that will auto update when they are activated (example: the weather feature on the 3D touchflo front end does not seem to want to connect automatically when launched) when I used the setting.
Also in the advanced config tool when you get into the connection settings the choices for sprint, and for phone as modem are: 1. Always on, 2. Enabled, and 3. Off. I am assuming that you have to have the setting for enabled, and then set the time out check box.
Just getting the hang of Advanced Config, and there is Soooo much to learn.
Also does anyone know what the standard time out is if you do not adjust this setting?
TIA.
Hi
I have a issue here.
Whenever I open my athena, it always connect to Data connection automatically ( I am using T-mobile). Even if I try to turn it off, but asap after that it try to connect the data.
(i had the same problem with Kaiser. I could not turn on TOMTOM7 only until I try to turn of Data connection, then asap turn on TT7 it would work).
But actually I only use the phone's calling function.
I don't care about other services from T-mobile, especially I don't know the useness of Data connection in my phone.
So, could u tell me the way to turn it of and only turn on when need.
thanks
Probably the best way is to go to Start > Settings > Connections tab > Connections icon > Advanced tab > Select Networks. Select "My Work Network" for both drop-downs. This should force it to only use wifi and not the cell network data connection. However, it may then turn wifi on - I don't know for certain since I use the cell network for data 99.9% of the time.
You could also try to delete the data connection info. I don't know if it will let you delete all connections.
I don't think there's a way to completely stop it from trying to connect to something, as long as some program is requesting a data connection. So the first option might still give you a dialog box telling you it can't connect, and I'm guessing the second option might ask you to set up a data connection.
I use this little tool. Place it in your SD Card and use File Explorer to create a shortcut in Windows/Start Menu/Programs/"to whatever folder you want". Run the application and disable anything you don't like in TMobile Services.
wow.
thank you friend.
i will use it.
it will help me to keep energy, because when we don't use data connection automatic, it will let the phone stay longer.
Wonderful program
thanks so much
this program is wonderful.
it disable GPRS automatic stupid function that we don't use with Tmobile.
Recommend for other friends.
This program is useful when use it with Kaiser, cos I always have to turn of data connection manual and then asap try to turn on TOMTOM7. Now it is free.
Thanks!
That's a great app! Will save me some $$$.
Hi all
Not a power user's dilemma I'm afraid but I hope someone can help me out...
What's bugging me is that my wife's LG-P500 incurs a small charge every day because, despite all the settings telling me it should NOT connect to the internet via the mobile network at any time, it somehow still connects - even when wifi is available like at home.
This wouldn't be a big deal normally but because she's on a pre-pay txt only plan her credit gets used up quickly.
My HTC Wildfire uses NO mobile connection at all when I have wifi available. Any ideas why this should be happening with our LG-P500?
Great forums by the way and I'm slightly embarrassed to be raising this probably noob topic here but I can't find an answer anywhere else...
Thanks in advance!
I haven't seen that problem on my P500, with the void echo ROM (the stock firmware didn't stay on the phone long enough for me to try that).
The option to disable it is in:
Settings -> Wireless and network settings -> Mobile networks -> Data enabled (should be unchecked)
Or in the drop-down menu of the notification bar.
I'm not sure about the stock ROM, but on void, an additional icon appears on the notification bar whenever the mobile network is active.
You could also try disabling the option:
Settings -> Accounts & sync settings -> Background data (should be unchecked)
Thanks. I already did all the obvious stuff you mention, having seen it work fine on my Wildfire... Any other ideas out there?
Might this be related to Location Services using Cell tower information ?
Could try turning that off anyway.
If you don't want to use the mobile network for internet access, than go to Settings > Wireless & network settings > Mobile networks > Uncheck Data enabled .
If the network allows you, you can also select Network mode > GSM only, this will also save you some battery. For example, I only use wifi to connect to Internet on my phone, and I also checked the option "Use only 2G networks" (also saves battery), I'm connecting to my operator only for phone calls
What is your Wi-Fi sleep policy settings? Try setting it to Never.
When the phone goes into sleep mode, wifi is turned off to save on battery. May be that's the reason mobile network is getting connected in sleep mode. If u enable wifi policy to never sleep that will drain the battery. You can disable the mobile network from th3 notification bar that should help.
Many thanks for the help guys!
Wifi sleep: good idea, I'll look at that!
Location services: good idea, I'll look at that!
Data enabled: unchecked already.
The problem still strikes me as odd because although I have ALL the same apps (and quite a few more...), I don't have this problem with my little HTC Wildfire...
Update: the only way I could find to resove the issue was to invent and use a nonsense APN...
Wifi sleep was already ticked as "never" by the way.
Thanks again everyone who gave advice.
Yeah, I've also had reason to use an APN named "fake" with a proxy named 'fake", although i use "Z" now to save typing, LOL.
This is one of many things i would do when changing SIMs. I have had one SIM and phone that always set a new APN and this ended up costing me a few bucks in data fees before I re-changed the APN info.
I would also disable the data services, make sure WiFi was on (to provide priority data access) AND enable airplane mode.
Anyway, your experience has inspired me to check more deeply about my data usage. I don't like the idea of my phone doing data without my knowledge while it's in standy.
I prefer to manually choose which connection I would like to use, so if I'm using my data plan such as when I'm out, I go to notification and enable data. I only get 200mb a month so its easier for me than to always keep networks on even when I'm not using them. It also saves on the battery as well.
EDIT: you can check your data usage using 3g watchdog app, find it in android market
It easy to solve. Just install APNdroid
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.code.apndroid
It also has a widget. Works very well.
Hi All
I have an ex T-Mobile HTC HD2 running windows 6.5 and connected to O2.
Mostly everything works fine except . . . . .
When I try to download an MMS message the phone tries to use the T-Mobile network and as this is not set up, it doesn;t work.
It tries to use t-Mobile even when connected to wifi
I have tried getting onto the network manager but all the T-Mobile settings are greyed out. and there is no option to delete the entry (edit, press and hold gives no options).
Network manager is set to use O2 (Connect to internet and Private network)
So, please, how do I get rig of T-Mobile and default to O2.
I presume it some registry hack?
TFAI
Try downloading & install this connection settings tool by HTC >
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=565785&d=1302516709
Once installed it will have a shortcut link in Settings, Connections, Connection Setup
Run it & choose country 'UK' & network provider 'O2' *be sure choose postpay or prepay*
It should load all setting including MMS.
If have issues post back for more help.
Another good option would be debranding your HD2 with either standard generic HTC ROM or Custom ROM such as Energy, links can be found in HD2 Wiki > http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_HD2#ROM_Development
Thanks for that.
Sadly not a huge success. cab downloaded and installed.
Run, reset, set up connection, reset etc
Eventually Settings, Connections, Connection Setup select O2 postpay and another restart just in case
Then
Wireless Controls, Data Connection, but it wont conect. (Slider wont go green)
Wifi Conection greyed out.
Total mess.
Back to Conection Setup and check but its set to UK, O2 postpay
I have Data Controller installed but that allows all O2 (MMS postpay and mobile web)
At least I could access the www before
How do I get out of this mess
TFAI
I would try removing data controller as that has some known issues of messing up the connection settings in registry.
I use GB-SOFT GPRS UMTS tweak which auto disconnects gprs when not used (set time to zero).
So in review >
remove Data controller & soft reset
Go into Settings>Connections>Connections>select 'manage existing connections' & delete any settings remaining
re-run Connection Setup & see if works !
I've never had trouble on provider roms such as T-Mobile so assume will be messy registry problem.
If no joy, post again & I will try dig up a guide & settings for O2 for manually trying input GPRS & MMS.
Good fix would be Custom WM6.5.5 such as one in my signature.
hhhmmm struggling. I can find no sensible way of uninstalling the Data controller. There is no entry on the list of programs to uninstall and I cant identify a directory.
There is a shortcut that points to \Windows\DataController.exe but is removing the program enough?
Good news is that I can Wireless stuff now works (My fault, I had forgotten they dont work when usb is connected to PC) So the only problem is MMS. Mor efiddling around, reran the HTC thing. Deleted an old connection and reboote a couple of times and eventually it worked.
And they call this a science!!
Thanks for you help
^ So is MMS now working !
If not I will post a manual MMS settings guide I have for WM6.5 somewhere.
Just removing the datacontroller.exe wouldn't be enough really, what really wanted is registry for it removed.
From your comments sounds like was mainly dirty connection settings in registry.
Data & MMS connections can be bit of a pain in WM6.5 but once learned manually or if the htc connections settings tool works perfectly they are better than android or iphone for flexibility & control.