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Is there any possible way to get UMTS 1900? or Quad Band? with gsm and wcdma?
altltkrk said:
Is there any possible way to get UMTS 1900? or Quad Band? with gsm and wcdma?
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Not quite sure what you mean, but UMTS 1900 is already there on the international version, same for the 1900 GSM frequency.
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
I guess OP's phone is locked on certain network and he wants to unlock it or the Korean version doesn't have 1900 frequency.
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Is there any possible way to get UMTS 1900? or Quad Band? with gsm and wcdma?
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Anyone? please help~!~!
According to the chart below, if I use a T-Mobile HTC One on AT&T, I would be able to use all of AT&T's HSPA+ network but will only be able to use their 700 MHz band for LTE? Am I reading it right or do I have it wrong?
I found this chart at android central (can't link because I'm blocked as a new user)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz
T-Mobile: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
Sprint: 700/AWS MHz
CDMA
Sprint: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1/BC10)
LTE
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Does this mean that if I have a T-Mobile phone, I can fully utilize HSPA+ speeds but not LTE speeds on AT&T?
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According to the chart below, if I use a T-Mobile HTC One on AT&T, I would be able to use all of AT&T's HSPA+ network but will only be able to use their 700 MHz band for LTE? Am I reading it right or do I have it wrong?
I found this chart at android central (can't link because I'm blocked as a new user)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz
T-Mobile: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
Sprint: 700/AWS MHz
CDMA
Sprint: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1/BC10)
LTE
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Does this mean that if I have a T-Mobile phone, I can fully utilize HSPA+ speeds but not LTE speeds on AT&T?
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I'm wondering the same thing. If I purchase the tmobile ONE and use it on ATT, will I get LTE and MMS as well.
i want to use it the other way around an at&t htc one on tmobiles hspa+ will ill be able to do that please let me know
gophermuncher said:
According to the chart below, if I use a T-Mobile HTC One on AT&T, I would be able to use all of AT&T's HSPA+ network but will only be able to use their 700 MHz band for LTE? Am I reading it right or do I have it wrong?
I found this chart at android central (can't link because I'm blocked as a new user)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz
T-Mobile: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
Sprint: 700/AWS MHz
CDMA
Sprint: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1/BC10)
LTE
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
Does this mean that if I have a T-Mobile phone, I can fully utilize HSPA+ speeds but not LTE speeds on AT&T?
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nuprotocol said:
I'm wondering the same thing. If I purchase the tmobile ONE and use it on ATT, will I get LTE and MMS as well.
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HSPA+, yes. MMS, yes. LTE? Maybe.
manaurys said:
i want to use it the other way around an at&t htc one on tmobiles hspa+ will ill be able to do that please let me know
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but only if you're in a refarmed 1900mhz frequency area. You can find out if you are here: http://airportal.de/
I've been investigating this. FCC documentation suggests that the HTC One for T-Mobile is certified for LTE Band 17 (AT&T).
I've unlocked the handset, but I'm only able to access AT&T's HSPA+ network.
Out of the box, the HTC One for T-Mobile doesn't support AT&T LTE.
If there is latent support, I reckon that you'd need to flash AT&T's radio to the device.
EDIT: I stand corrected. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41237507&postcount=17
the tmobile ONE supports tmobile/att hspa and lte for both carriers. The att ONE supports lte for both but only att hspa and only tmobils 1900 hspa.
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Best of both - Noob Asks
This is extremely curious to a noob like myself. To clarify, The HTC One purchased through Tmobile can be used on both the Tmobile and ATT networks? If purchased through Tmo how can I get the SIM for ATT? Can I toggle between the two? How can I utilize this awesome find to get the best out of each network. You all are smart. Thanks!
aWisseh said:
This is extremely curious to a noob like myself. To clarify, The HTC One purchased through Tmobile can be used on both the Tmobile and ATT networks? If purchased through Tmo how can I get the SIM for ATT? Can I toggle between the two? How can I utilize this awesome find to get the best out of each network. You all are smart. Thanks!
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My friend has the T-mobile One and I have the AT&T One. He tried putting his T-mobile SIM in my phone, but it would not work (my AT&T One has to be unlocked, which I believe can be done if you buy an unlock code). I couldn't say if my SIM would work since my SIM is not actually AT&T's, it is a Straight Talk SIM that is compatible with AT&T's network. I imagine you could also unlock the T-mobile variant to work with AT&T's networks, but I'm not sure if it'd be able to work on the 4G network.
I got a chance to purchase the vzw gs4 for $250 under a one year contract for very good plans
Wondering if the contract expires, will i be able to use other gsm carriers?
AFAIK, i545 should come unlocked and can be used on att hspa and tmo lte(band4), am i right?
Just wondering if i545 has lte band 17 for att, or has anybody tried putting an att sim to i545 yet?
Another question I know verizon is notorious for not pushing timely system updates, but how far are the custom roms from the 9505g rom?
Thanks for your input
i saw in the 9500 dev section somebody wasn't able to enable tmob lte for this model which seems wired
has anybody tried att sim card?
Why is the thread moved automatically to Q/A section though
michael3770 said:
i saw in the 9500 dev section somebody wasn't able to enable tmob lte for this model which seems wired
has anybody tried att sim card?
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A simple search would tell you that many of us have used non-VZ SIM cards. The phone is SIM-unlocked.
Here's the bands that the Verizon S4 has:
LTE 750 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
CDMA 850 / 1900
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
[from http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4066 ]
T-Mobile uses 1700 for LTE, so there appears to be a match.
For AT&T, 700, 1700, 2300 for LTE. 1700 is the common band.
[from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks ]
k1mu said:
A simple search would tell you that many of us have used non-VZ SIM cards. The phone is SIM-unlocked.
Here's the bands that the Verizon S4 has:
LTE 750 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
CDMA 850 / 1900
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
[from http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4066 ]
T-Mobile uses 1700 for LTE, so there appears to be a match.
For AT&T, 700, 1700, 2300 for LTE. 1700 is the common band.
[from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks ]
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I don't the bands on phonescoop is correct
samsung listed i545 to have LTE band 4 which is 1700/2100
One other thread mentioned Tmobile LTE cannot achieved on this model, only hspa
Att use Band 4,17, not 2300 for LTE
I'm just wondering if anyone has tried to hack the radio as they did for i535
michael3770 said:
I don't the bands on phonescoop is correct
samsung listed i545 to have LTE band 4 which is 1700/2100
One other thread mentioned Tmobile LTE cannot achieved on this model, only hspa
Att use Band 4,17, not 2300 for LTE
I'm just wondering if anyone has tried to hack the radio as they did for i535
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OK, so here's a reliable source - Samsung. http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I545ZWAVZW-specs
LTE: Bands 4/13 (Band 4 is 1700 MHz, band 13 is 700 MHz)
CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev.A: 800/1900MHz
HSPA+/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
I don't understand the various 1700 MHz band allocations, so I can't say if Tmo's band 4 is compatible with VZ's band 4 radio.
"Hack the radio" meant enabling radios that were built in to the phone which VZ disabled. I don't think that's the case with the VZ S4.
k1mu said:
I don't understand the various 1700 MHz band allocations, so I can't say if Tmo's band 4 is compatible with VZ's band 4 radio.
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as far as I know there aren't various 1700MHz allocations. In such case, every allocation must have their own band, like Band 2 and Band 25. Both of them are in the 1900MHz but with diferent allocations.
So any LTE Band 4 enable device should work in any LTE band 4 carrier.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
dennis5pia said:
as far as I know there aren't various 1700MHz allocations. In such case, every allocation must have their own band, like Band 2 and Band 25. Both of them are in the 1900MHz but with diferent allocations.
So any LTE Band 4 enable device should work in any LTE band 4 carrier.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
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That's what I thought
according to this post it's not i don't know why
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400799
michael3770 said:
That's what I thought
according to this post it's not i don't know why
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400799
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According to this post it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44206677&postcount=20
Bottom line any LTE band 4 enable device will work in any LTE band 4 carrier.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
LG G6 Models/Bands:
List of all known models and related bands.
G600K/L/S/V [S. Korea]: GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: B1/B5 LTE: B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B7, B8, B12, B17, B20, B26 TD-LTE: B38/B39/B40/B41
H870/H870K/S/V [Europe]: GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8 LTE: B1/B2/B3/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B20 TD-LTE: B38/B40
H870DS [Dual Sim]: GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8 LTE: B1/B2/B3/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B20 TD-LTE: B38/B40
H871 [AT&T - USA]: GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5 LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B12/B20/B29/B30
H872/PR [T-Mobile USA]: GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5 LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B6/B7/B12/B13/B20/B66
H873 [Canada]: GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5 LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B6/B7/B12/B13/B20/B66
LS993 [Sprint - USA]: CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8 LTE: B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B12/B25/B26/B41
AS993 [Brightpoint - USA]: CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8 LTE: B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B12/B25/B26/B41
US997 [U.S Cellular - USA]: CDMA: BC0/BC1 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8 LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B12/B13/B17/B20/B25
VS998/B/G/P/T/W [Verizon Wireless - USA]: CDMA: BC0/BC1 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: B2/B4/B5 LTE: B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B13/B20/B66
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All information has been taken from FCC documents and other reliable sources. It's not complete yet, if you have any additional info let me know with proper source and I'll add it here.
xpirt said:
LG G6 Models/Bands:
List of all known models and related bands.
All information has been taken from FCC documents and other reliable sources. It's not complete yet, if you have any additional info let me know with proper source and I'll add it here.
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There are devices being sold on ebay, branded as G600 only. And they are specifying more bands than mentioned here.
For example
G600 and G600S unlocked
2G Bands :
Amjad.AbdulGhani said:
There are devices being sold on ebay, branded as G600 only. And they are specifying more bands than mentioned here.
For example
G600 and G600S unlocked
2G Bands :
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..?
xpirt said:
..?
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Network band
LTE: B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B7, B8, B12, B17, B20, B26, B38, B39, B40, B41
Sorry don't know why it didn't show in my earlier post
updated..
updated again..
also for those interested, G600S/K/L/V kernel source codes are already available on their website.
edit: seems almost all variants have kernel source now, including H870.
Any idea if bands supported on the various versions can be edited (i.e. if radios actually support all bands but operator had them locked down)?
Hi, i have the G600K, can i change the firmware to L/S/V version? @xpirt,
i want to erase all stock apps of KoreanTelecom movile
thanks in advance
teixeirap said:
Any idea if bands supported on the various versions can be edited (i.e. if radios actually support all bands but operator had them locked down)?
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I'd greatly appreciate knowing the answer to this question as well.
xpirt said:
updated again..
also for those interested, G600S/K/L/V kernel source codes are already available on their website.
edit: seems almost all variants have kernel source now, including H870.
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May I know the website URL ? Thanks
Sent from my LG G6
kpcheang2 said:
May I know the website URL ? Thanks
Sent from my LG G6
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So...shouldn't AT&T's version have support for LTE bands 17, 29 and 30?
anl2304 said:
So...shouldn't AT&T's version have support for LTE bands 17, 29 and 30?
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updated, but not sure about band 17
The H870DS does not support band 2 or 17. It supports:
GSM 850,900,1800,1900,
WCDMA 850,900,1900,2100
TD-SCDMA 1900,2000
LTE 1,3,4,5,7,8,12,20,26,28,38,39,40,41
xpirt said:
updated, but not sure about band 17
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It's so difficult to get accurate (and consistent) info, so thanks for your efforts to update the compatibility listing. For example, I read elsewhere that the 870DS supported LTE 17 and 2 but not 5. But just above, Adrift98 reports the opposite. Makes it difficult to pick up an AT&T compatible G6 with 64 GB storage. So it makes me want to skip the G6 altogether.
Band 17 is the main LTE band for AT&T, so I am sure it is compatible. At least, I hope so.
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opensource.lge.com
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Thanks !
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H870k supports LTE B28.
Sent from my LG-H870 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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According to telstra website & LG Australia.
Sent from my LG-H870 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
anl2304 said:
It's so difficult to get accurate (and consistent) info, so thanks for your efforts to update the compatibility listing. For example, I read elsewhere that the 870DS supported LTE 17 and 2 but not 5. But just above, Adrift98 reports the opposite. Makes it difficult to pick up an AT&T compatible G6 with 64 GB storage. So it makes me want to skip the G6 altogether.
Band 17 is the main LTE band for AT&T, so I am sure it is compatible. At least, I hope so.
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Band 12 covers band 17. That's why newer AT&T phones list band 12 instead of band 17.
I'm on AT&T (Cricket to be specific) here in Ohio, and I do not get band 17 (or any LTE for that matter) on the H870DS. Confirmed with LTE Discovery, and tested with a phone that does get LTE. I've only seen LTE briefly on the H870DS in a large town, and that was likely band 5. Lack of LTE on AT&T for the H870DS was also confirmed by another user living in California.
I've been researching 3 models. All the info I have is directly from LG's website. I really wanted to go with the H870DS to have 64GB and Dual Sim slots but it's missing LTE bands 2 and 66 which T-Mobile does use in some places. US997 is missing 66 so I'm just going to go with T-Mobile's version. Any idea why the T-Mobile version is the only one to list the bands separately as "roaming bands"? Hopefully it'll still function fine if I choose to use it elsewhere.
H872 T-Mobile
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
UMTS Bands 1/2/4/5
LTE Bands 2/4/12/66/5
LTE Roaming Bands 3/7/20/1/13 (It's strange how some are listed as roaming)
ALL LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 20, 66
US997 Unlocked
CDMA 1.9 GHz CDMA PCS, 800 MHz Analog, 800 MHz CDMA;
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz;
UMTS Bands 1/2/4/5/8;
All LTE Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25
H870DS Dual Sim
2G Network 850(B5)/ 900(B8)/ 1800(B3)/ 1900(B2) MHz
3G Network WCDMA 850(B5) / 900(B8) / 1900(B2) / 2100(B1) MHz TD-SCDMA 2000 / 1900 MHz
4G Network - FDD 2100(B1) /1800(B3) / 1700(B4) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) /700(B12)/ 800(B20) / 800(B26)/ 700(B28) MHz
4G Network - TDD 2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2600(B41) MHz
All LTE Bands 1/3/4/5/7/8/12/20/26/28/38/39/40/41
I have a new unlocked S9+ China (SM-G9650/DS, Qualcomm Snapdragon 845), and I'm trying to figure out if it is fully supported by T-Mobile in the US. I've done some Googling on this, but I'm not sure I understand the results. The supported band specs for the phone, and the T-Mobile frequencies used, are below. Can someone confirm or comment whether the phone is fully supported, or if not what's missing? Thx, Gus
S9+ China SM-G9650/DS Specs:
GSM Mhz band: Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900
2G network: CDMA 800, GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G network: CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
TD-SCDMA 1900/2000
UMTS 850/900/1700/1900/2100
4G network: LTE Cat18 700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2300/2600
(Bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,18,19,20,28,29,30)
TD-LTE 1900/2300/2500/2600 (Bands 38,39,40,41)
Data network: GPRS, EDGE, CDMA2000 EV-DO Rev 0, CDMA2000 EV-DO Rev A, TD-SCDMA, UMTS, TD-HSDPA, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+, TD-LTE, LTE, LTE-A
T-Mobile Frequencies:
LTE Frequencies:
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
Lower 700 MHz band 12 (in development) / in service in selected areas
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA):
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE):
1900 MHz PCS band 2
gus_zernial said:
I have a new unlocked S9+ China (SM-G9650/DS, Qualcomm Snapdragon 845), and I'm trying to figure out if it is fully supported by T-Mobile in the US. I've done some Googling on this, but I'm not sure I understand the results. The supported band specs for the phone, and the T-Mobile frequencies used, are below. Can someone confirm or comment whether the phone is fully supported, or if not what's missing? Thx, Gus
S9+ China SM-G9650/DS Specs:
GSM Mhz band: Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900
2G network: CDMA 800, GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G network: CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
TD-SCDMA 1900/2000
UMTS 850/900/1700/1900/2100
4G network: LTE Cat18 700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2300/2600
(Bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,18,19,20,28,29,30)
TD-LTE 1900/2300/2500/2600 (Bands 38,39,40,41)
Data network: GPRS, EDGE, CDMA2000 EV-DO Rev 0, CDMA2000 EV-DO Rev A, TD-SCDMA, UMTS, TD-HSDPA, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA+, TD-LTE, LTE, LTE-A
T-Mobile Frequencies:
LTE Frequencies:
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
Lower 700 MHz band 12 (in development) / in service in selected areas
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA):
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE):
1900 MHz PCS band 2[/QUOTE
It will work on T-Mobile frequencies but you won't get Wifi Calling or voLTE. The stock CSC is TGY - Hong Kong, T-Mobile is TMB. I haven't found any way to change the CSC even with custom ROM, but assuming one became available you would trip Knox and lose Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, Secure Folder, OTA Updates and Factory Warranty. Some members have posted in regards to changing the CSC Code in the link below but I'm not certain it's working out. Good luck!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9-plus/how-to/qualcomm-sm-g9650-hong-kong-china-t3764542
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baring any unforeseen hidden stuff, you should be good to go for Tmobile...Minus the new Band 71 on the 600mhz spectrum. Honestly, unless you live in the area that will get this deployment, this shouldn't be of concern. As long as you can use Band 2/4/12, you will be ok with Tmobile.
I almost went with this route as well since I wanted to get a Snapdragon version with larger storage size. But I chickened out because I've been reading people having bad signals/not having full LTE speeds with their imported S9+ on TMOUS.
Good luck and let us know!
I used CT Excel Americas (T-mobile mvno) and it worked on CHC firmware. But I forgot to test volte etc.
kevinfan1990 said:
I used CT Excel Americas (T-mobile mvno) and it worked on CHC firmware. But I forgot to test volte etc.
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Please post steps for this. I would like to get VoLTE and Wifi calling