Why some markets got things that the U.S. market did not. anyone know why? - Sprint LG G3

I have been a long time LG fan, I have the G2, the G Flex and now the G3. along with 2 LG Tone+ and a LG Tone Ultra. but to the point, watching the unveiling show and seeing people unbox their LG's I got really excited. that LG actually noticed the 4K display would hurt battery life, so why not compensate with an extra battery and a wall charger for them. Then i was really excited and waited patiently for it to come to sprint. Then sitting at bestbuy on the day it came out and noticed that we didnt get anything, hell we didnt even get the cheap headphones. WE GOT NOTHING. my question is, WHY? why them and not us.
and after dealing with LG customer service over the past serval days. my impression and love for the company just nosedived. i was given nothing but stupid remarks and sarcasm. and one instance i was even told that i probably didnt have the LG G3. im just disappointed about this whole experiance and how i was treated when trying to get answers.
anyone know why they gave it away to some markets but not the US?

The us carriers don't want us to have them extra accessories so that we turn around and buy them from them
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fgcchevy said:
The us carriers don't want us to have them extra accessories so that we turn around and buy them from them
Sent from my Black Lg G3
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Exactly. It's not LG's fault. The phone also comes with an FM Tuner, which AT&T blocked and Verizon also disabled some features. The carriers are the evil ones here, not LG.

$$$$$$$$$ -- that's why...

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[Q] Keep the Rezound? or switch to Moto X / LG G2 / Galaxy S4 or HTC One?

Been debating on this for a while, and think I'm going to pick up something new this week if I decide to grab a new phone.
Phone will be on Verizon.
I'll be using this 90% of the time in the PAC NW area of the country. other 10% will be divided up between DC/South US/Hawaii/INTL.
I've been checking spec comparisons between them and a few other phones on multiple sites, but wanted to see if any of you had a first hand opinion between these choices.
Right now I'm looking at the Moto X (32GB) , LG G2, HTC ONE, and Galaxy S4, was thinking about getting the Nexus 5 and jumping carriers, but I really can't see any benefit to it that the other phones don't have aside from vanilla android.
i.e. this link to phonescoop comparing the Rezound, Moto X, HTC One, HTC One Max, and Nexus 5
phonescoop link
and this one on phone arena comparing the Moto X, Rezound, and G2
phone arena link
and another one from phone arena comparing the Moto X, Rezound, and HTC One.
phone arena link 2
one more from phone arena comparing the Moto X, LG G2, and Galaxy S4
yet another phone arena link
and my last comparison, the Rezound vs Moto X, S4, One, G2
last link I swear!
My biggest pros for any of the newer ones are the scratch resistant screen, more LTE bands & more GSM bands for when I travel.
As well as NFC would be fun to mess around with, as well as the faster cpu / gpu / more ram. Granted I can't think of anything the rezound hasn't been able to run aside from GTA-VC which is only second hand to me as I haven't tried it.
moto x specific pros-
S-GPS
EDR for bluetooth
only $100 for 32GB version
moto maker if i want it in crazy colors
lg g2 specific pros-
fastest cpu / fasted gpu
quadcore cpu
biggest battery
biggest screen
faster ram
htc onc specific pros-
love the look, and like the built in stereo speakers
samsung galaxy s4 specific pros-
quadcore cpu
highest PPI on screen
faster ram
My cons are for the most of the newer ones are
non-removable battery
no SD card slot.
What I'm asking after all of that rambling is first hand comparisons between the rezounds and these devices, or these devices compared amongst each other.
aka- Sway me one way or the other.
TL;DR - have rezound, debating on Moto X / LG G2 / HTC ONE / Galaxy S4. Any first hand experiences to compare them?
Thanks!
I have the HTC one and I can tell u it's GREAT. I didn't think any phones were worth upgrading from the rezound this year but when my phone cracked 3 weeks ago I had to get a new one. I went threw the same comparisons but instead of nexus 5 it was note 3. I knew the specs of the note 3 were the best of them all but I really don't like touchwiz so that was out of the question and the s4. Then I saw the moto x but it was still $199 at Verizon and $99 on every other carrier plus no moto maker so that was out of the question. Then it was the one vs g2. I used both at a Verizon store and well the G2 was nice the one and it's metal build were just so much nicer. Also the speakers were a great add on and I wasn't really feeling the button on the back of the G2. Also the one has the highest ppi of all the phones not the s4. Either phone is a great choice but I can tell u I get 3.5-4 hours screen on time easy with auto brightness on the one and about a day and a half usage moderate. Also I have experienced no lag whatsoever on the one
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I'd say Nexus 5 unless you absolutely need to stick with Verizon, in which case the LG G2
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I'd say Nexus 5 unless you absolutely need to stick with Verizon, in which case the LG G2
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^^^ I second this...
Any of them would be step up, you wouldn't be disappointed at all, but the LG G2 is a beast (3000mah battery) if you are stuck with Verizon for whatever reason, but if you can jump ship the Nexus 5 on a pre-paid GSM carrier is the way to go, for an unlimited talk/text plan with 2-3Gb data it will run you $45-$60/month... saving about $40-$55 monthly over a standard VZW plan easily paying for the phone in 6-9 months.
I've been thinking about getting a new phone for the past few months as well...I got myself dead set on the One and went to the store to just mess around with it for a bit and pretend like I owned it. Super smooth/fast, beautiful screen, cool speakers...hate the UI. The more I tried to do basic tasks the less I liked it. The two buttons didn't help either. Basically, I recommend going into a store and just pretending like the phones are yours. Specs and reviews and videos and what everyone else thinks doesn't really matter in the end, the phone has work with you.
I'm sure with some new roms etc I could find a way to be happy with the One...but I need some time to get over my frustrations first good luck!
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LG G2
I was holding out hope that the Nexus 5 would some how come to VZW. While I was waiting, my wife picked out the G2. I put Scott Scrosler's Clean ROM and she really enjoys this phone. I've been playing with it and waiting for the Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals. I found a way to get the G2 for free. This phone is great and there's a lot of dev support. If you have to stick with VZW and the price of all the phones is the same, I recommend the G2.
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I've been thinking about getting a new phone for the past few months as well...I got myself dead set on the One and went to the store to just mess around with it for a bit and pretend like I owned it. Super smooth/fast, beautiful screen, cool speakers...hate the UI. The more I tried to do basic tasks the less I liked it. The two buttons didn't help either. Basically, I recommend going into a store and just pretending like the phones are yours. Specs and reviews and videos and what everyone else thinks doesn't really matter in the end, the phone has work with you.
I'm sure with some new roms etc I could find a way to be happy with the One...but I need some time to get over my frustrations first good luck!
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Last I checked the UI issue can be fixed..
Has HTC/VZW stopped the s-off process on the One yet?
mjones73 said:
Last I checked the UI issue can be fixed..
Has HTC/VZW stopped the s-off process on the One yet?
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They did for a while, but @beaups got it working... at least until the KK update drops and VZW tries again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473644
I have had the one for a little over a month. Will say its a good phone with good battery life. Sure there is the possible purple tent issue but nor all of them has this problem. Best to check the camera out by covering the lens with your hand and see if you get the purple tent. Rooting is easy and as always some great ROMs already out there. The all aluminium body is a real plus for this phone.
I tried the camera on the moto line of phones and the picture just turned out grainy and bad. Even with the one purple tent in low light settings its still takes a great pic just like the s4 does. Think HTC finally got sense under control as its not laggy and doesn't seem as a battery drain like older versions of sense was. In the end people likes different things and you will never know till you use it. Nice thing Verizon has the 14 day return policies. Good luck in your choice.
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there a big different between Rezound and last phones today
its like PC with SSD now really quick less lags
the internal storage IOP/S is way higher then older phones
joecoolinatl said:
Been debating on this for a while, and think
My cons are for the most of the newer ones are
non-removable battery
no SD card slot.
Thanks!
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go with GPro
*WALL OF TEXT INCOMING* (just a friendly warning)
I ended up ordering the LG G2 (staying with verizon) from bestbuy.
last sunday, (the 17th) I noticed that bestbuy had all of the lg g2s marked down to 100$ and had a 50$ gift card, so I checked it out on the best buy website, and saw that you had to bring in a working smartphone to trade in to get it at that price, but if you ordered online, it took the 50$ off instantly.
While looking on the Bestbuy website at the LG G2s, for some reason, even though every other carriers version was $99.99, the verizon one was listed at $49.99.
I ordered it online, thinking they would kick the order out and that it was an errror or something.
I figured $50 for the phone and a $50 bestbuy giftcard, probably an error or an early black friday price mistake.
They sent an email the next day saying there was an urgent problem with the order and call within 48 hrs or it would be cancelled, I called and the rep couldnt figure out why it sent me that email, and after being on hold for about 30 minutes came back and said they called shipping and had them force the order though.
They also said they spoke to verizon and had it activated, I didn't think anything of it at the time and just said thanks.
After the call, i put the phone down and a few minutes later went to call my wife, but when I hit send, it rang and then said "this phone is not registered with verizon" or something to that effect, then I remembered the rep said they activated the new phone. FACEPALM time.
I tried a few other numbers, same error message. tried 611, it rang! went through 3 reps telling them exactly what I thought happened (the bestbuy person got confused and got someone from vzw to activate a new phone on my line w/o a new imei or new sim somehow). 3rd rep i spoke with said that was exactly what happened. took about 10-15 minutes but reset everything back to my original imei/sim (the htc rezound). so now i can make calls again.
2 days later got a shipment notification email.
of note- I noticed monday morning when I logged into bestbuys website to check the order status (this is before receiving the problem email) to see if it shipped yet, and the price was up to $99.99 for all carriers including verizon, and now had an extra line on the page- it's 150 at the store, and when you bring in a smartphone to trade in, you get a 50$ gift card that you then HAVE to use in the transaction to get the price down to $99.99. online orders still took the price to $99.99 immediately.
Been checking today since it's supposed to arrive today, and it looks like it's back up to 199.99 and they are still doing the gift card, but you have to trade in a smartphone and use the giftcard on the spot to get it down to 150.
tl:dr-
50$ for the G2, free shipping (but slowwwwwww, totally should have paid the 10$ to get it in 2 days if i knew it was going to take 7 days) and 50$ best buy gift card.
and i finally got the email an hour ago for the 50$ bestbuy egiftcard.
of note, they pricematch, so I'm hoping someone lowers it to $.01 for black friday and then I can go get my $50 back and have it for free!
chose the g2 since it was marked down so low and has the faster CPU/GPU, even though i won't be able to change the battery (but it does have the biggest stock battery at 3000ma, which is awesome since my std rezound battery only lasts a few hours and the extended battery doesn't even last a day anymore)
Thanks for the advice everyone!
after a week with the G2, i've got to say it's amazing. I still have the rezound and will start tinkering with it since i finally have another device, but the G2 is insanely fast at everything so far. love it. can't recommend it enough.

T-Mobile USA Thread

I know the 6P won't be sold through the carriers, at least not right away. I'm a Tmo subscriber and I was a little disappointed at first but buying the phone and paying for it in full is always the best route.
With that being said are you with Tmo? What area of the country are you in? Having issues or are new services going live? Questions about service with past or the new nexus device? Let's keep each other updated with what's going on with our carrier.
I've had just about every nexus phone while on Tmo. I had spotty service for awhile but over the years service has gotten much better for me in the Orlando area. This past year I've seen almost all the 3g towers turn into LTE. I got to use HD voice for the first time on my nexus 6. VOLTE got turned on. Band 12 going live (although not in my area, I've used it in other FL markets) Going forward to the 6P are we going lose some of these? I've already seen a report that band 12 will not be unlocked at launch for our device. Will volte be available? HD voice? None of these are deal breakers but it would suck to have such a cutting edge device yet it can't access some basic phone functions. What are your thoughts/insight?
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when they see that sales are going down they will be dropping the price and eipin the phone just take a couple months
But i dont want to wait that long.. Ive saved my Jump and wanted the newest nexus again... Damn you
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But i dont want to wait that long.. Ive saved my Jump and wanted the newest nexus again... Damn you
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why even bother with the jump program? buy phone outright and sell old phone. no restrictions, change phones whenever you want and probably cheaper.
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why even bother with the jump program? buy phone outright and sell old phone. no restrictions, change phones whenever you want and probably cheaper.
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I'm not a fan of jump either however not everyone can afford the full price, some people are fortunate to be able to.
I guess it's kinda like leasing your car but of course a way lower price.
I love buying unlocked phones and now that tmobiles prices are so low it really works out
Even with the jump program you are paying full price for the phone. It just gives you the option to trade in without worrying about negative equity, like a car. But I guarantee you the first time you buy a new car cash you'll set yourself up for life to never have a car payment again, this is so much easier to do with a phone... So much easier.
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Even with the jump program you are paying full price for the phone. It just gives you the option to trade in without worrying about negative equity, like a car. But I guarantee you the first time you buy a new car cash you'll set yourself up for life to never have a car payment again, this is so much easier to do with a phone... So much easier.
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I think most people who get the jump program get it because they can't afford to pay the full price up front, even if they are paying the same in the end or maybe sometimes you pay more for a device when you could've gotten an unlocked device (same or better) for cheaper
I actually began my Nexus 6 purchase through finance. I figured hey, it's 0% who cares. I started to think of bills and life from a more DTI based perspective vs my older, borrow at low or no interest and invest to get more mindset.
Once you start paying off everything with a payment (no matter how low the interest) you start to have so much excess cash monthly that you realize WTF you've been doing wrong your whole life. It also makes it a lot easier to save and invest.
Anyway back on topic, I don't think carriers will be getting the 6P. But if anyone did, it would probably be T-Mobile
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if anyone did, it would probably be T-Mobile
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Since the thing will not be supporting band 12 on t-mobile, at least not right away, I'd think not.
Edit: Hah! Soon!
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/3mzygu/google_nexus_team_ama_working_to_get_band_12/
Why pay full price for the phone? I have the original Jump program. So i pay $27/Month. In one year I paid $324 and traded the phone in for the next Nexus. I didnt have to shell out the full $650. I dont know but it works fine for me. Only phone i care about are the nexus devices. Its a Big deal when i can simply walk into the store hand them my old phone keep all my Chargers and accessories and walk out with a new phone paying only taxes..
I just pre-ordered one and I feel that Jump may not offer a good deal. I've been hearing a lot about Google Fi so that does seem like a better option overall. Also, you would lose out on the $50 play credit and three months of free Google Play Music unless you get it before Oct 25. I'll be using mine for T-Mobile and I'd only hold on ordering to look over reviews, but it's a Nexus device so it should be pretty solid. I agree with many in here that not everyone can pay full price, but with Jump you are still paying quite a bit of money. It's just better to buy it up front then sell the old phone after.
One of the things mentioned in the Reddit AMA today was they're attempting to work with TMobile on getting the Band 12 turned on prior to the device getting to everyone. So at least they're acknowledging the issue.
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They're not selling the Nexus 6P in U.S. carrier stores... So we don't have the option to use Jump! or Jump! On Demand. I have a Galaxy S6 on Jump! On Demand that I'm a few months into... I purchased a 6P outright and will use 1 of my 3 upgrades w/ T-Moible to go w/ something else, and not pay a dime at the store. I switch phones a TON so for me Jump! On Demand is awesome. I will say though, once I am done with this current EIP, I will try to stay with unlocked phones and just pay outright for them. My monthly bill will be a lot cheaper.
As far as the band 12 support; if they get it fixed by ship date, great. If not, oh well... I don't have access to band 12 where I am (Columbus, Ohio), so I'm not missing anything if they don't have it fixed. I'm sure when/if it gets activated here this will be fixed.
In the Reddit AMA;
They ignored every question about why they are not selling through US Carriers. This was the most commonly asked question.
I'm like thinking, that's one of the most important questions, why will this not be sold in U.S. Carrier stores ? Especially T-Mobile stores, as they have carried and stocked every single Nexus phone the past six years. I could see Verizon or ATT not selling it, but T-Mobile has been a big supporter of the Nexus phones, as far as carriers go.
So the Nexus 6P will be nowhere to be seen or played with in stores, you just have to hope you think you'll like it and order it online only ? That's crazy. I always want to hold it in hand, mess around it with it for 30 minutes in the store, really get a feel for the phone, before deciding.
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In the Reddit AMA;
They ignored every question about why they are not selling through US Carriers. This was the most commonly asked question.
I'm like thinking, that's one of the most important questions, why will this not be sold in U.S. Carrier stores ? Especially T-Mobile stores, as they have carried and stocked every single Nexus phone the past six years. I could see Verizon or ATT not selling it, but T-Mobile has been a big supporter of the Nexus phones, as far as carriers go.
So the Nexus 6P will be nowhere to be seen or played with in stores, you just have to hope you think you'll like it and order it online only ? That's crazy. I always want to hold it in hand, mess around it with it for 30 minutes in the store, really get a feel for the phone, before deciding.
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I'm sure that They will be available at some point. Google has given exclusivity for the first couple months before, this time it's to themselves. Maybe they want to get the preorders out without a disaster like previous releases. On the bright side we get great pricing compared to the rest of the world
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Yeah, Rumor is they could offer them in stores later this month to avoid the instant rush of phone orders. They sell direct first then allow carries to carry a few models if wanted.
That Reddit AMA was filled with tons of questions asking about U.S. Carrier availability, and they didn't respond once.
Wonder if that got them thinking, hey maybe we should put this out to T-Mobile and other carriers maybe ? I could see that happening after the rush of Play Store orders, and be in stores come December. I bet T-Mobile at least carries it by Christmas, just my guess.
Zorachus said:
That Reddit AMA was filled with tons of questions asking about U.S. Carrier availability, and they didn't respond once.
Wonder if that got them thinking, hey maybe we should put this out to T-Mobile and other carriers maybe ? I could see that happening after the rush of Play Store orders, and be in stores come December. I bet T-Mobile at least carries it by Christmas, just my guess.
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I'm wondering if part of the reason is so they can say see how many devices we sold without you, you're not getting customized builds this time.
If they announce carrier availability it would just eat into their own direct sales.
I'd be shocked if this doesn't ultimately get on carriers in a quarter or so.
I'm still upset no Nexus 6P at U.S. Carrier stores, especially T-Mobile.
And I call BS on Google's excuse, that they want full control and no carrier slow downs no carrier involvement mucking things up.
Apple
Carriers don't get in the way of Apple and iOS updates. A Verizon or ATT iPhone 6S get's updated straight from Apple, you don't see Verizon users waiting longer for the iOS update, than an international iPhone user, or Apple having to give the update to ATT first and then let them, hand out the update later to it's customers.
Nope, if you have a Sprint, or T-Mobile, or Verizon iPhone, you just go to iTunes or Apple for the update, and they have the update available at the exact the same time, no matter which carrier phone you own.
My point is, carriers aren't in the way whatsoever, and Apple sells a **** ton of iPhone's through these carriers. How many sales of iPhone's are done directly through the Apple store and site only, like Google wants people to buy the Nexus 6P through the Play Store only ?
Google should sell the Nexus 6P at U.S. Carrier stores, and not give the BS excuse it's because of updates or some crap.

No headphones in box?

Did anyone get headphones in the box. Why did all reviews have those nice headphones. I'm not happy about this. I'm with AT&T and I spoke with lg and they said none of the carriers have them in the box.
No. T mobile
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Vzw here, I didn't get any either.
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No, they didn't include ear buds, which is weird, especially when some people who tested it got earbuds
I'm pretty sure only the international version gets the earbuds.
The international ones do, blame our carriers, they leave them out to save money but still charge the same for the phone. It's BS but it's been this way for a long time.
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The international ones do, blame our carriers, they leave them out to save money but still charge the same for the phone. It's BS but it's been this way for a long time.
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I think the International version released for 699. It was 599 on T-Mobile at least.
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I think the International version released for 699. It was 599 on T-Mobile at least.
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672 Verizon, 700 ATT, its just not this phone, they been doing it forever
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672 Verizon, 700 ATT, its just not this phone, they been doing it forever
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Yeah, I honestly gave up caring when I was still buying HTC products and they stopped including them. I always assume we're not getting them.
It is to make you buy a pair from the carrier sales reps to pad the ticket price and drive profits and commissions. Plus, how many headphones or earphones do you have from other phones or ones you have purchased elsewhere?
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It is to make you buy a pair from the carrier sales reps to pad the ticket price and drive profits and commissions. Plus, how many headphones or earphones do you have from other phones or ones you have purchased elsewhere?
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I have like 4 sets of headphones, what would I do with another pair anyway? I'd start to feel like a hoarder lol.
Lol that's true I do have many from old phones but these were made by a company that specially made them for the phone so I was hoping to get some pretty good sound from them plus they looked great.
The ear buds I saw in the review looked really nice and I would have been interested in trying them out but as others have pointed out I have tons from other phones and I don't even bother with any of them since I really enjoy my klipsche noise-isolating ear buds.
I had this discussion with my father today. He said "call LG I bet they'd send you some"
The problem is this is the 3rd phone carrier branded ive received with no headphones. No big deal but I was interested in these LG ones... They look great.. I do wish we got them.
Matt
Akg headphones are like $600+ on ebay.. lol
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I think you mean to say the korean version because that's what all the reviewers got.
Outside korea might be a different story.
They say its free but they include it in the price, then a few months later the free stuff starts to mysteriously disappear and the price magically comes down.
In all this time the phone actually costs exactly the same.
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I think you mean to say the korean version because that's what all the reviewers got.
Outside korea might be a different story.
They say its free but they include it in the price, then a few months later the free stuff starts to mysteriously disappear and the price magically comes down.
In all this time the phone actually costs exactly the same.
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I don't think its just the Korean version. The HK variant gets the headphones as well, and someone earlier in the thread said the international unlocked version comes with headphones. The phone retails for 699. I paid 599. So it has been my experience that in all this time the phone does not actually cost exactly the same as the version that gets headphones. Your experience may be different, but as a T-Mobile customer, I paid 100 dollars less and I'd gladly pay 100 less and not get the earbuds. We are also getting a 250 dollar sdcard, and an extra battery and charger. I'm not going to whine over not getting another set of earbuds to add to my collection.
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I think you mean to say the korean version because that's what all the reviewers got.
Outside korea might be a different story.
They say its free but they include it in the price, then a few months later the free stuff starts to mysteriously disappear and the price magically comes down.
In all this time the phone actually costs exactly the same.
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just to add, the HK Dual Sim variant does have the ear phones in the box
If you really like the look of them you can get them from Amazon LG Quadbeat3
Lewzephyr said:
If you really like the look of them you can get them from Amazon LG Quadbeat3
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I've checked those out before and not sure they are the same. They don't say Tuned by AKG, so is there a difference?

UK/EU users is No DAC or Wireless Charging really LGs fault

Hey folks
Just unboxed my G6 and waiting with sweaty palms for the first charge to finish... .
Like most EU users I was annoyed at No ESS Dac or Wireless charging.. but I wonder.. how much of this is directly LGs fault.. and I wonder how much of it is EU / red tape interference..
It just doesnt seem logical that a company would manufacture 2 versions of their flagship and turn out a half baked phone..
We never got the V10 or the V20 .. so I wonder, how much of, selling a half finished device for the same £680 (in Asia it works out £650), is interference by the Financial Euro-prats in Brussels.. after all, Samsung havent removed their Wolfsonn DAC or Wireless charging from the S8, could it be the patents ?.. IMO, No..
Are we as consumers being too hard on LG as a company when the blame may lie with the faceless Beaurocrats?
What do you guys think
We should be hard on LG. It's their branded phones.
For clarity the reason for the disparity across the world is due to the networks depicting what they believe their customers will buy and at what price. For example if LG said it could provide a quad dac for an extra £5 per phone the network buyers may not believe that's necessary to include, thereby maximising profits. The networks are LG customers , not you.
I'm not letting LG off the hook. Pressure needs to be applied from every angle to make the networks and LG realise it is not acceptable to hav such disparity where the feature difference is noticeable.
No, no good trying to blame the EU for this (honestly, this isn't the Daily Mail! ). There's no regulatory impediment to a better DAC or wireless charging, and anyway how would Brussels stop the Americans getting the DAC, or indeed stop the Asians getting wireless charging? And you forgot that Asian models get 64GB storage whereas the rest of the world gets 32GB.
No, LG made the decisions on a financial basis. Whether they took feedback from carriers or did their own market research (which is what they told me when I contacted them about this), in the end it was just a business decision on their part.
I contacted them the day that the phone was announced and told them that their regional specifications policy had cost them my custom. I figured that one person buying it or not is invisible to them, but if enough people told them it was stupid and that they would have sold more without it they might learn for next time.
After starting this thread, then reading your replies.. I did a little digging to check my facts and I was saddend to learn that, yes.. this is LG doing so-called market research on what the "networks" want and sadly, all 3 regions have been scr*wed over.. but to give the EU the version that has NONE of the added features (No 64GB/Wireless, or DAC) or the "V 10 / 20 and probably not the 30" is a really stupid move.. I dont know who does LGs research, but they should be fired.. Yet they give us waterproofing which scr*ws call quality and Audiio..
And they wonder why Samsung do so well..
Whatever the reason or whoever is to blame, LG need to realise they are the back marker/the underdog. They need to come out with a headliner that appeals to mainstream AND more hardcore users.
Confusing matters like this will just keep the momentum with Samsung.
No, it's because LG do "market research" and decide what each region wants and a cost/benefit analysis. That's all. Same as their decision not to release the V20 in EU, simply they thought it wouldn't sell.
Ofc it is "LG's fault".
I'm in the UK and I would like 64GB, wireless charging and a quad DAC. But LG decided not to make them available.
So yeah it's "LG's fault".
Market research my arse.
B3501 said:
No, it's because LG do "market research" and decide what each region wants and a cost/benefit analysis. That's all. Same as their decision not to release the V20 in EU, simply they thought it wouldn't sell.
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Then in my opinion they got their analysis compelety wrong.
Ok the S8 is more expensive on contract but imagine the smile on the salesman when he justifies that expense on wireless charging and larger storage. It'll be easy for him.
G6 will just get swept aside which is a shame as I think my G5 is great anf was looking forward to this one.
Maybe they will reanalyse for the G7 ?
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Then in my opinion they got their analysis compelety wrong.
Ok the S8 is more expensive on contract but imagine the smile on the salesman when he justifies that expense on wireless charging and larger storage. It'll be easy for him.
G6 will just get swept aside which is a shame as I think my G5 is great anf was looking forward to this one.
Maybe they will reanalyse for the G7
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I have 4 flagship phones, the S8+. Huawei P10 Plus, LG G6 and iPhone 7 Plus. I will be ditching the S8+. Whilst it has lots of positives, its just not as nice to use as the G6, nor is it camera as useful or as good at in many areas as the G6.
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I have 4 flagship phones, the S8+. Huawei P10 Plus, LG G6 and iPhone 7 Plus. I will be ditching the S8+. Whilst it has lots of positives, its just not as nice to use as the G6, nor is it camera as useful or as good at in many areas as the G6.
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Yea, I remember you saying you felt the G6 was v good (I'm the guy across the brisge from you that had that Twitter conversation ? )
Just no way I'll get the UK version. Its still expensive and I would hate knowing I had a 'dumbed down' version.
I'd rather not import just yet either. But never say never ?
WhiteHartMart said:
Yea, I remember you saying you felt the G6 was v good (I'm the guy across the brisge from you that had that Twitter conversation )
Just no way I'll get the UK version. Its still expensive and I would hate knowing I had a 'dumbed down' version.
I'd rather not import just yet either. But never say never
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I think it's £490 on Three UK with a £10 top up. A bit more realistic.
And hi again
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I think it's £490 on Three UK with a £10 top up. A bit more realistic.
And hi again
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Yea saw that deal on HotUKDeals. Think it turned out to be an error in some stores putting the G6 on show at G5 prices.
Pretty sure its back to £600+ now.
£600+ for the G6 is just a crazy, crazy price. Also, for the amount of time it took to release it they could have had an SD835 in it! Perhaps they'll release a V2 with an 835 but some of LGs decisions with phones are insane. They're shooting themselves completely in the foot.
£564 on Tesco Mobile.
Hoping to have it tomorrow Saturday, Monday at the latest.
As the major UK carriers are only selling the black version so they don't have enough confidence to sell the other colours. Only CPW stock all three. I'm not convinced this decision is one by market research as suggested. My own view is that LG rushed the release in the UK knowing that the S8 was comming out only 2 weeks later. Poor marketing really.
I cannot understand why any flagship wouldn't have wireless charging these days as it's becoming more common. Coming from the last few Samsung phones I owned this was a massive loss. The only conclusion is LG don't see this phone lasting.
On the DAC point I chuckled at others view on the sound quality on the S7 as I also found it poor. I think the sound quality is much better on my G6.
If anyone has an EE firmware version could they post the firmware download link?
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As the major UK carriers are only selling the black version so they don't have enough confidence to sell the other colours. Only CPW stock all three. I'm not convinced this decision is one by market research as suggested. My own view is that LG rushed the release in the UK knowing that the S8 was comming out only 2 weeks later. Poor marketing really.
I cannot understand why any flagship wouldn't have wireless charging these days as it's becoming more common. Coming from the last few Samsung phones I owned this was a massive loss. The only conclusion is LG don't see this phone lasting.
On the DAC point I chuckled at others view on the sound quality on the S7 as I also found it poor. I think the sound quality is much better on my G6.
If anyone has an EE firmware version could they post the firmware download link?
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CPW has an early exclusive on the colours. They seem to do this quite a bit as well as getting the phones earlier than other online retailers. Frustrating. Personally I have the white which I like a lot.
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£564 on Tesco Mobile.
Hoping to have it tomorrow Saturday, Monday at the latest.
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Where did you find that price? It's £629 for me. Also are Tesco Mobile's phones unlocked?
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Where did you find that price? It's £629 for me. Also are Tesco Mobile's phones unlocked?
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£564 is what I'll be paying for the phone over 24 months.
Ive been with Tesco Mobile for several years so I just logged in to my account and that was the price that was quoted. And yes it's unlocked, all my phones from Tesco have been network free with no crappy bloatware.
I picked it up in store this afternoon and an hour later I had swapped it for a 1 week old V20, LG folio case (both as new) and £150 cash
My experience with the G6 was very brief but I decided after 5 minutes it wasn't for me. It's a gorgeous phone but the biggest fingerprint magnet I've ever had.
I'm already impressed with the V20 (H990ds Korean model) so I'll be posting my thoughts in the V20 forum.
LG did **** up the UK release of the G6, but not by rushing it, instead by delaying it.
LG had a window of opportunity of just under a month from when they announced the G6 to get it on the shelves, or at least on pre-order, before Samsung announced the S8. They must have known that Samsung would open up pre-order orders immediately, and probably that Samsung would ensure that every phone shop nationwide had S8s on display the day after announcing it; yet LG didn't even announce the UK availability date until a week before Samsung put actual retail S8s in actual customer's hands.
If they'd capitalised on that month lead they had, the G6 would be selling way better, despite the exclusion of its best features.
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Surprised no N ...

Well maybe I am naive or just plain dumb, but I really thought we would be getting Nougat by now. Well VZW will be losing another family plan in a few months - cost of course plays a huge factor too. I'll miss my V10 though.
You do not have to get rid of VZW just stop buying carrier branded phones. Buy direct, like Pixel, Moto, or LG from LG and not through Verizon. Often manufacturers update their non carrier b branded phones right away.
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You do not have to get rid of VZW just stop buying carrier branded phones. Buy direct, like Pixel, Moto, or LG from LG and not through Verizon. Often manufacturers update their non carrier b branded phones right away.
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This V10, with extra battery and 64gb SD card, cost me under $70 at Best Buy in December 2015. So I'm ok with branded phones at that cost. I really thought that we would have seen N at some point.
But with Pixel launchers or the Nova updates I'm not sure I'm missing much.
Saw your V10 died. What did they give you?
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This V10, with extra battery and 64gb SD card, cost me under $70 at Best Buy in December 2015. So I'm ok with branded phones at that cost. I really thought that we would have seen N at some point.
But with Pixel launchers or the Nova updates I'm not sure I'm missing much.
Saw your V10 died. What did they give you?
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Another V10
Hmmmm.... A 20 minute update. N maybe? Doubt it
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You do not have to get rid of VZW just stop buying carrier branded phones. Buy direct, like Pixel, Moto, or LG from LG and not through Verizon. Often manufacturers update their non carrier b branded phones right away.
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If don't buy direct from Verizon, is there away to pay for phone on installments? Not sure if you mean buy from Amazon or EBay?
WTF Verizon?
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Hmmmm.... A 20 minute update. N maybe? Doubt it
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i have NEVER seen so many updates without an android version update. that's like 5 updates I've installed since upgrading to 6.0 and I'm still on 6 point effing 0
Yep. Google's policy if releasing security updates every month. Of course even those releases are a month or more late with VZW

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