Huawei Ascend Mate7 - Huawei Ascend Mate 2

In case you haven't heard, the all new successor to our beloved HAM2 is the Mate7! Whether or not Huawei went through 4 different Mate models that we never knew about, I'll never know. I presume (since many people haven't heard of Huawei) they want the HAM7 to look "one step ahead" of the iPhone 6 and the Galaxy S6.
Here's the official Huawei page for the Mate7, and some pictures.
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Interestingly, the HAM7 already has its own XDA forum, whereas our phone only got one after months and months of nagging.
Height
157.0mm
Width
81.0mm
Depth
7.9mm
Weight
About 185g (including the battery)
Display
6.0" FHD Screen,1080P (1920 x 1080), 368PPI 16M colors
CPU
Hisilicon Kirin 925
4x1.8GHz + 4x1.3GHz + 1x230MHz
Operation System
Android™ 4.4/HUAWEI Emotion UI 3.0
Memory
RAM : 2 GB
ROM : 16 GB
Full specs here
Anyways, what do you think? Will you be getting this phone?

Seems like the phone is now in the same price range Samsung / HTC flagship phones. So not for me and also there is no mention of a USA version.
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It looks awesome.
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ecvision said:
Seems like the phone is now in the same price range Samsung / HTC flagship phones. So not for me and also there is no mention of a USA version.
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I think the biggest updates are the fingerprint sensor and the 1080p resolution. The rest of the specs are somewhat similar to our phone, so hopefully it won't have a huge price bump.
I'm sure a US version will come out eventually. Huawei wanted to come to the US with the HAM2 so it wouldn't make sense to not make this.

ScoobSTi said:
I think the biggest updates are the fingerprint sensor and the 1080p resolution. The rest of the specs are somewhat similar to our phone, so hopefully it won't have a huge price bump.
I'm sure a US version will come out eventually. Huawei wanted to come to the US with the HAM2 so it wouldn't make sense to not make this.
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Agreed. They are certainly ramping up to compete with the other big guys here. After having the HAM2 I have no reason to believe I'll go back to those others.
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That design is on point!

anyone know anything about the SoC Hisilicon Kirin 925 4x1.8GHz+4x1.3GHz+1x230MHz
WTF is it besides an octocore......are these chip makers a new company on the scene and if so is there any software that will be compatible with it....other than that a nice iphony look'a'like......:laugh:

mrsynister1971 said:
anyone know anything about the SoC Hisilicon Kirin 925 4x1.8GHz+4x1.3GHz+1x230MHz
WTF is it besides an octocore......are these chip makers a new company on the scene and if so is there any software that will be compatible with it....other than that a nice iphony look'a'like......:laugh:
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They are Huawei in house chip designers....
My Mate 2 MT2-L05 has a Hisilicon Kirin 910 chip in it which runs everything flawlessly, and if you look in the benchmarking thread, it also appears to be considerably faster than the Qualcomm 400 Snapdragon in the MT2-L03 US version, although until the MT2-L03 runs on 4.4.2 a direct comparison is slightly unfair.

The Mate7 will also be available in a 3GB RAM/32GB configuration.
I find it hard to believe Huawei would release a US version of the AM2, vastly improve it, and then not sell a US version of that successor. I would guess that a US version comes out a month or so after the foreign version is widely available.
I have the AM2. Without knowing what the AM7 would look like, my suggestions would've been:
Improve build quality
Make thinner+more compact
Lighter
Enable double tap to wake/faster way to unlock than antiquated side button
Improve performance+screen quality without sacrificing battery life
They've done all of the items on my list. I'll be trading in my Mate 2 for this baby the second a US compatible model becomes available.

JJ2525 said:
The Mate7 will also be available in a 3GB RAM/32GB configuration.
I find it hard to believe Huawei would release a US version of the AM2, vastly improve it, and then not sell a US version of that successor. I would guess that a US version comes out a month or so after the foreign version is widely available.
I have the AM2. Without knowing what the AM7 would look like, my suggestions would've been:
Improve build quality
Make thinner+more compact
Lighter
Enable double tap to wake/faster way to unlock than antiquated side button
Improve performance+screen quality without sacrificing battery life
They've done all of the items on my list. I'll be trading in my Mate 2 for this baby the second a US compatible model becomes available.
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Agreed.
Current phones, Ascend Mate 2, LG G3, LG G2, LG Lucid 3. Tablets, Nexus 7, LG GPad. I like the Ascend Mate 2 the best.

Most of the width and weight seems to be the battery. I changed the DPI to 264 and if not for application issues 240 was perfect screen is bright and clear flexible frame and screen I am more than impressed. Adjustments made and the phone is super snappy. I agree about the button placement though. Other than that really taken with this phone.

A model of the Mate7, MT7-L09 is purported to work with TMO/ATT LTE in the US. The price is higher than the AM2, but it's also a better screen, higher build quality and Android 4.4 out of the box. I'm thinking of giving it a shot.
http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Ascend-Display-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00PQZMKNY/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t

I would rather go with the new nexus if I was to buy anything else for that price range

Not me. I prefer the significantly better battery life, thinner+more compact frame and microSD slot at $550 vs the Nexus 6 64GB at $750 after taxes.

Wish it had been this price when I bought my HAM2

Mate 7 is still too pricy for me... And doesn't have full network support only 1/2 bands supported so many places in the rural area I live in wouldn't have signal as I found out with my previous phone before the mate 2. I love the full network support and better connectivity with this $300 phone. 550 is still too much in my opinion.
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JJ2525 said:
Not me. I prefer the significantly better battery life, thinner+more compact frame and microSD slot at $550 vs the Nexus 6 64GB at $750 after taxes.
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Yeah you are right, hadn't thought about that.

JJ2525 said:
A model of the Mate7, MT7-L09 is purported to work with TMO/ATT LTE in the US. The price is higher than the AM2, but it's also a better screen, higher build quality and Android 4.4 out of the box. I'm thinking of giving it a shot.
http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Ascend-Display-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00PQZMKNY/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
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Just want to mention that there is no official US version yet, this is an individual seller, so no warranty, no support, even seller reputation need put into consideration. Of course network/band will be another issue.

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Motorola dinara

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http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-dinara-revealed-tipped-for-att
Motorola just launched the Dinara this morning, but because it was shrouded as a China-only handset, no one really noticed. Well the dual-core, 720p, 13-megapixel XT928 is indeed coming to the US, we've learned, as the MB886 (and internationally as the XT885/XT920); like the MB860 Atrix and MB865 Atrix 2, Dinara is expected to land on AT&T, although possibly not as an exclusive.
This is the second time in recent memory that the company has quietly revealed the international version of a handset before launching the American variant: we saw the Droid 3 spoiled by the Milestone 3 only a few months back. However, with the RAZR having only recently begun shipping -- itself upstaging the Bionic -- it seems unlikely that Dinara will be announced in the US until at least CES.
Full specs on China's Dinara can be found in the press release, linked below. Although the XT928 is a 3G device, expect Dinara to be loaded with LTE radios by the time it arrives stateside (regardless of carrier).
looks like were outdated very soon.
4.5" 720p screen
13mp camera
Dolby Digital Sound
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I'm Disappointed. Completely.
kholk said:
I'm Disappointed. Completely.
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Yeah..a fatter and larger RAZR? Kind of redundant..and not appetizing.
robstunner said:
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/motorola-dinara-revealed-tipped-for-att
looks like were outdated very soon.
4.5" 720p screen
13mp camera
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Thanks. But I don't see anything really eye catching. meh
Feels like I just got butthurt
I'm disappointed only because they could have put the 13MP camera in the RAZR, it isn't bigger. The RAZR would have costed like 80€ more than now, but well, it could have been a real highend superior device.
And it isn't a chipset limitation: OMAP4430 supports it FULLY.
I'm bored of this. As soon as replacements for Dinara will be out, I'll buy its replacement 13MP camera, mount it in the RAZR and port its driver, other than write a guide on how to mount that $%£$%£ camera in it.
And obviously I hope its pinout will be compatible/adaptable on our RAZR.
kholk said:
I'm disappointed only because they could have put the 13MP camera in the RAZR, it isn't bigger. The RAZR would have costed like 80€ more than now, but well, it could have been a real highend superior device.
And it isn't a chipset limitation: OMAP4430 supports it FULLY.
I'm bored of this. As soon as replacements for Dinara will be out, I'll buy its replacement 13MP camera, mount it in the RAZR and port its driver, other than write a guide on how to mount that $%£$%£ camera in it.
And obviously I hope its pinout will be compatible/adaptable on our RAZR.
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I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
Semseddin said:
I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
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This.
If the Dinara is, like is rumored, an LCD screen and a sub-par camera (if the sensor sucks, 13MP might actually be a downgrade since it will make for noisy shots), I would consider it a downgrade from the RAZR. Also, Verizon > AT&T (in my area, and most others; YMMV).
Nothing to see, here. The RAZR will be outclassed soon enough, but not by this.
robstunner said:
I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
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So? Just because a new Nexus comes only once a year doesn't mean that they're not outdated quickly. The Nexus S came out right before the emergence of dual-core headsets and was literally outdated within weeks and even the Galaxy Nexus will be replaced soon enough; quad-core devices are literally only months away at this point.
Options are the beauty of this platform.
Want incremental, yearly updates? Go get an iPhone, simple as that.
dashshiron said:
So? Just because a new Nexus comes only once a year doesn't mean that they're not outdated quickly. The Nexus S came out right before the emergence of dual-core headsets and was literally outdated within weeks and even the Galaxy Nexus will be replaced soon enough; quad-core devices are literally only months away at this point.
Options are the beauty of this platform.
Want incremental, yearly updates? Go get an iPhone, simple as that.
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Yea, that will never happen again (iPhone). I enjoy my razr, and if that post above LCD screen in the dinara is correct, I also say FAIL. I couldn't find any information on the specifics on the Motorola press release.
Semseddin said:
I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
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zn5 dosn't have kodak sensor
only kodak there is function for image enhancement, nothing more...
but, I surely would love sensor from XT720 + xenon flash on some new moto phone
(xt720 has a much better image quality than zn5)
Where's the Kevlar, if it ain't stoppin bullets I don't want it.
pajo985 said:
zn5 dosn't have kodak sensor
only kodak there is function for image enhancement, nothing more...
but, I surely would love sensor from XT720 + xenon flash on some new moto phone
(xt720 has a much better image quality than zn5)
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That's your opinion. I've used both phones and Zn5 is hands down winner against the XT720 when it comes to image quality. XT720 was also good but it wasn't near nowhere to zn5 !
Honestly, that looks like a RAZR had sex with a Droid X. I appreciate the camera and the screen, but their design is moving backwards now..
And Moto is trying desperately to stay on top, just like everyone else. Android is a quickly-evolving platform, there's always something new around the corner to jam into a device. And when potential buyers are looking for a phone, they always want the newest technology. While it might seem like a bad decision to keep throwing phones out every other week that make yours look like crap, in order to hold their own, they kindof have to. That's why you don't see them cranking out seven tablets every week, tablets are more like "okay well as long as we have the newest processor and a decent GPU we're pretty well off let's check back in 4 months"
Semseddin said:
That's your opinion. I've used both phones and Zn5 is hands down winner against the XT720 when it comes to image quality. XT720 was also good but it wasn't near nowhere to zn5 !
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I have both phones, and XT has so much better color reproduction, sharpness and noise reduction
maybe I have some old firmware on ZN5, but that's for some another thread..
ICS might actually improve the picture quality. There may be mods as well that make things better. You gotta think what's more important, the phone as a whole or the camera.
robstunner said:
I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
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Mmm HTC hasn't been TOO bad about pushing out devices, and even then the specs are either equal, lesser, or slightly better. Moto just seems to be pushing devices out left and right. It is pretty disappointing to drop $300 + on a device and then a few weeks later you see something with higher specs come out. The HD screen vs qHD does make a fairly decent difference from what I've noticed so far. Tbh the upcoming Nexus phone isn't anything revolutionary or spectacular except for ICS. Android phones are just coming out too fast and hopefully it slows down a bit.
damn, i can't wait for this phone! looks like a mean upgrade from my current one.
http://gadgetsteria.com/2011/12/01/flog-that-horse-motorola-droid-razr-max-revealed-in-exif-data/
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what is the best Android phone at the moment?

I'm planning to buy a new android phone this week
I had the HTC one X and I will not ever buy HTC mobiles again
in my country the galaxy nexus 4 is not available, neither the LG optimus G will be for a quite time
so the choices for the current top android phones like galaxy S3 and Note II
one thing that I'm not very comfort with samsung Super amoled screens that they are dark
and there are variance in number of nits in SIII and Note II, that doesn't me I'm writing off Samsung phones but I want to hear ur ideas
so what is ur suggestions?
finally!!!
NOTE 2
Note is good but the size drives me off xD
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finally!!!
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finally what
Agree......Note 2 or Galaxy S3
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what about the brightness?
here in anandtech review shows how many nits per various mobile phones
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Galaxy S3.
Do not get Samsung, trust me they do not have the craftsmanship and it's features are mediocre at best. It's exfat is broken and the screen breaks easily thanks to 20% thinner gorilla glass; its very expensive to repair because it is glued on it.
I recommend you phone such as: Motorola DROID razr maxx hd(uses kevlar back cover which is the same material used for bullet proof vest, and it has the largest battery life of android on its size), HTC butterfly if you could get one(has 1080p ips rgb display on 5" size,quad core s4 pro, adreno 320, 2gb ram, microsd, 2nd best camera sensor atm first is lumia 920), the upcoming Sony phone that also has 1080p display and quad core s4 pro. If you want the absolute best that is currently available atm, you cannot get it because it is only available on sprint and the phone is called EVO 4G lte which uses anodize aluminum construction, kickstand, and microsd slot, krait cores, 2nd best camera sensor and the fastest Brower atm(sun spider score on its stock browser is 1.2-1.3k on ics
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Samsung Galaxy 3
i think HTC is a best android phone
raclimja said:
Do not get Samsung, trust me they do not have the craftsmanship and it's features are mediocre at best. It's exfat is broken and the screen breaks easily thanks to 20% thinner gorilla glass; its very expensive to repair because it is glued on it.
I recommend you phone such as: Motorola DROID razr maxx hd(uses kevlar back cover which is the same material used for bullet proof vest, and it has the largest battery life of android on its size), HTC butterfly if you could get one(has 1080p ips rgb display on 5" size,quad core s4 pro, adreno 320, 2gb ram, microsd, 2nd best camera sensor atm first is lumia 920), the upcoming Sony phone that also has 1080p display and quad core s4 pro. If you want the absolute best that is currently available atm, you cannot get it because it is only available on sprint and the phone is called EVO 4G lte which uses anodize aluminum construction, kickstand, and microsd slot, krait cores, 2nd best camera sensor and the fastest Brower atm(sun spider score on its stock browser is 1.2-1.3k on ics
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I think you little hard on Samsung, even I'm not a fan I can see how they won that large market share by providing alot of feature, good hardware and varieties
Motorola is almost rare here in my market, I thought of the Maxx series for the large battery but the Note II battery numbers are really impressive
No More HTC, I've using HTC devices from mid 2010 and the big failure in HTC one X (lousy battery, overheating, poor screen protection, got three scratches without a reason ) and for the record, my touch buttons are not working and I'm having it repaired at the moment by replacing the full touch screen
I think that replied on siwo.jack as well
Lumia 920 I guess it will be great but it yet pretty early to judge and I was for two and half years an android user so I'm not sure about winmo 8
Sony Phablet yet to be available and yet to judge either
EVO 4G lte is an HTC and N/A here
I think you should go for LG optimus LS970 btw you can see its specification on gsm arena
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I think you should go for LG optimus LS970 btw you can see its specification on gsm arena
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it is a great phone but sadly not released yet
I should say wait for Nexus4, you won't regret.
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I should say wait for Nexus4, you won't regret.
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it is amazing and the price is too
but 16 GB most !!
also when it come to my country it will be late and priced to the roof
S3 i would say... and S2 is still a best option
:good: go for s 3 ... nice phone ... Note II is also good option but it all depends how you are going to use it. if you carry it daily S3 and S2 are good options ... Note II lil difficult to carry around daily in some crowded places ... fear to loss it
technically both are best phones ...
So wait bro it will be released soon trust me the phone is a monster
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I think while the Samsung Galaxy S3 is great, you can not really go wrong with the new Nexus 4 by Google. The price point is just incredible. Of course, if absence of LTE doesn't bother you.
The big question always is, "what are you going to do with it?". Different people have different priorities. For me, camera/screen is a big factor. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you'll find a better camera on an android phone than the S3.

[Q] Xperia Z Ultra Contender

Hey Everyone ... since apparently we wont be recieving any upgrade soon for the Zultra ... whats the next phone you'd suggest ... i do realize that samsung is out of the deal with its plastic mess ... HTC one m8 sounds like a good deal ... tell me what you think!
Don't know if it worth upgrading... a few more Hz and some RAM
AustenlorD said:
Hey Everyone ... since apparently we wont be recieving any upgrade soon for the Zultra ... whats the next phone you'd suggest ... i do realize that samsung is out of the deal with its plastic mess ... HTC one m8 sounds like a good deal ... tell me what you think!
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Rumor has it that Motorola and Google might release a 5.9in Nexus code name "shamu". I am waiting to see if that is the case. About .5 inches too small IMHO, but might be something to look into if true.
What do u think about Lg G pro 2 ?
AustenlorD said:
Hey Everyone ... since apparently we wont be recieving any upgrade soon for the Zultra ... whats the next phone you'd suggest ... i do realize that samsung is out of the deal with its plastic mess ... HTC one m8 sounds like a good deal ... tell me what you think!
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Get this phone! http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/MediaPadX1/
5000 mAh battery on a 7 inch phone haha
I think huawei mediapad x1 has lower specs than ultra .. It's downgrade
thanks guys!
the huwawi is kinda downgrade from the z ultra as for the motorola its specs isnt quite clear yet ... thus no choice to be made yet ...
Am planning to buy One Plus One. Have already got the invite and purchased one for friend and when I get shareable one, will purchase for myself
http://androidandme.com/2014/08/new...=lenovo-vibe-z2-pro-is-the-latest-qhd-monster
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Galaxy Alpha 6.7"
But no real contender at the moment that has stylus (or pencil) input
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Nubia X6 have no missing features with better cpu, cams(both front&back) and flash.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...uad-Core-2GB-RAM-32GB-Android/1962334331.html
http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_vibe_z2_pro-6396.php
This one look like to be the real contender!
6-inch 2560x1440 display
2.5GHz quad-core Snapdragon 801 processor
16-megapixel rear camera with Optical Image Stabilization
5-megapixel front-facing shooter
32GB storage
3GB of RAM
4000mAh battery
4G LTE connectivity
Metallic unibody design
Titanium, gold and black color options
7.7mm thick
Android 4.4 with Lenovo’s Vibe UI 2.0 user interface
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwmvrHgFHdk
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I'm afraid that we have no better choice for the replacement. So for me just hoping that this ultra's battery can last as long as possible and whenever it doesn't hold any more charge, hopefully Sony still have the sparepart. Or you know, xperia z2 with modded 400 ppi would be nice.
Lenovo? Yeah right, like you don't need any Android update at all.
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The lenovo has no microsd-slot
I think the lenovo is the only real alternative. Everything else is of lower spec. But having said that the present ultra doesn't really need to be upgraded imo. Specs are plenty good enough to run everything I throw at it and never really feel lags as such. So why waste the money?! But then again even I can't help myself but have a change
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Sony Z3X
Sony has leaked a Z Ultra successor. Wait until Feb for the official announcement.
Sony Xperia Z3X
6.14-in 2560 x 1152 OLED display, a 64-bit 2.86GHz eight-core Snapdragon 810 processor, and two 2GB low-power DDR4 memory chips, curved Exmors 22-megapixel front camera, Waterproof, Android L.
t3.com/news/sony-xperia-z3x-shows-off-mind-boggling-spec-sheet
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Sony has leaked a Z Ultra successor. Wait until Feb for the official announcement.
Sony Xperia Z3X
6.14-in 2560 x 1152 OLED display, a 64-bit 2.86GHz eight-core Snapdragon 810 processor, and two 2GB low-power DDR4 memory chips, curved Exmors 22-megapixel front camera, Waterproof, Android L.
t3.com/news/sony-xperia-z3x-shows-off-mind-boggling-spec-sheet
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old news, it was all over the camera news sites last month and posted here

P9 Plus to Huawei Honor Magic ?

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Would you buy the Huawei Honor Magic ?
Honor magic details
https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/16/huawei-honor-magic/
http://www.honor.cn/products/mobile-phones/honor-magic/
http://www.gizmochina.com/2016/12/1...nt-magic-live-assistant-everything-need-know/
Unboxing:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg2Nzk3ODg1Ng==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2&spm=a2h0k.8191407.0.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHLa3SunEe0&t=4s
Honor Magic Disassembled:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3MTIxOTE0NA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Honor magic designed by Things To Be:
https://www.dexigner.com/news/29618
Early hands on reviews:
http://mobile.pconline.com.cn/867/8679962.html
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3Nzc4ODAxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3ODczNTcxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3OTM4NDg2MA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Pros over P9 plus:
Handy size 5.1inch screen
curved edge screen/pebble shape
2k screen
front finger scanner with navigation controls
New eye & face scanner/infra red camera for access & privacy
Frame sensor for hand recognition
Fast charging (70% in 20 mins)
(Some contextual aware features which most likely will not work outside China)
New Variant UI that will be developed differently from EMUI, with more youth and innovation centric.
Cons:
Not Leica branded lens and photo processing
No external memory card
Huawei branding (530$ is high for a budget branded "Honor" phone)
P9 plus has larger screen & larger battery
No pressure touch screen (Google has their software alternative though)
No stereo speakers
No changes:
12mp dual camera (not the 20mp of mate 9)
Kirin 950
Amoled Screen
If the magic has the newer Kirin 960 (LPDDR4+UFS2.1 Flash memory + Mali G71MP8) i would have gone for it without a thought. But now its not so easy. The whole front finger print sensor and eye scanner features makes it very tempting for me as when im at my work desk having to put password every time is such a pain. The P9 plus still looks very gorgeous, slim and premium and love it design wise while the Honor magic design looks pretty cool, radical & futurish. Im not a camera guy so not really important for me to have that latest best of the best camera.
Would you take the risk and go for honor Magic now or patient enough to wait another 6-8 months for the p10 which would have the Kirin 960, top notch camera, eye scanner, front finger print and bluetooth 5.0 but with more hefty price tag.
Would never go for less battery ...
xeizo said:
Would never go for less battery ...
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Has fast charging though. If the 2k screen on the 2900mah can last a day with no worrying about, then a 30 minute charge is not a problem for me personally. The p9 plus for me is caught in between as it lasts like 1 and half day and has to be charged every day as well to keep up that other half day.
If fast charging works on the same chipset. It will work also on P9 Plus with the same specs.
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If fast charging works on the same chipset. It will work also on P9 Plus with the same specs.
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The battery on the magic is built different, as well as additional safety measures in place. It has a 5V/8A charger.
i'm considering the magic, but need to know if I can install play store and side upload apk apps.
kms108 said:
i'm considering the magic, but need to know if I can install play store and side upload apk apps.
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Yes you can for sure. All EMUI phones can. We usually use the pre-installed Huawei appstore to download playstore.
Also read this thread here for a general idea of what to expect on software side on a China version phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/p9-plus/help/to-vie-al10-t3386700
Thanks for the reply, from your experience, do you think there will be a hong kong version of the magic, or even a upgrade version with the 960 chipset to support simultaneous 4G/3G on both sim, just like the current Mate 9, or may be a 128GB version, as i'm not sure how huawei markets their phones, release one now, and a upgrade version afterwards.
Also are most bloatware deletable or allow to be disable on huawei phone.
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Thanks for the reply, from your experience, do you think there will be a hong kong version of the magic, or even a upgrade version with the 960 chipset to support simultaneous 4G/3G on both sim, just like the current Mate 9, or may be a 128GB version, as i'm not sure how huawei markets their phones, release one now, and a upgrade version afterwards.
Also are most bloatware deletable or allow to be disable on huawei phone.
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Very very unlikely they will bring a Kirin 960. Any variant will be just a color and memory variant at max (Even color and memory variant they for now neither confirm nor deny it). If Magic was a hit they would likely bring a big size version of the phone with pumped up specs in 6-8months after release of Huawei P10. I still have no idea why they decided to go for K950 as it is such a weird choice for a 2k screen phone marketed as the future phone. Have to see the performance in hand. The honor 8 had good reviews, so maybe they wanted to continue and feel confident with all their optimizations, and also maybe to not cut down sales of Mate 9.
News sites mention Honor looking for partners like facebook to make Honor magic release in India possible. So might see in HonkKong as well. Although i also feel it could be a bit too late if it was not planned already.
As far as i read, the magic is dual sim and 4g in the sense that you can with software settings switch around which one sim uses 4g while other sim remaims on 2g. So both cannot be on 4g at same time but you can switch between sims by settings.
Yes most bloatware deletable, except for a couple of Huawei apps.
warea said:
Very very unlikely they will bring a Kirin 960. Any variant will be just a color and memory variant at max (Even color and memory variant they for now neither confirm nor deny it). If Magic was a hit they would likely bring a big size version of the phone with pumped up specs in 6-8months after release of Huawei P10. I still have no idea why they decided to go for K950 as it is such a weird choice for a 2k screen phone marketed as the future phone. Have to see the performance in hand. The honor 8 had good reviews, so maybe they wanted to continue and feel confident with all their optimizations, and also maybe to not cut down sales of Mate 9.
News sites mention Honor looking for partners like facebook to make Honor magic release in India possible. So might see in HonkKong as well. Although i also feel it could be a bit too late if it was not planned already.
As far as i read, the magic is dual sim and 4g in the sense that you can with software settings switch around which one sim uses 4g while other sim remaims on 2g. So both cannot be on 4g at same time but you can switch between sims by settings.
Yes most bloatware deletable, except for a couple of Huawei apps.
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I spoken to a friend who works for Huawei, he hasn't heard about the magic, but did say that it will not be available in Hong Kong for sure, Hong Kong has stopped selling Huawei Honor series for a good few years now, and has concertrated on the P series and Mate, mid range phones like the honor series won't be available, so my only choice is to buy it direct from china, hopefully they do sell them locally from a authorized store, as I don't buy phones through online, although I do know you can get the magic from 4 huawei authorised online site. So once I get to see this phone in person I will get it on the 9th of next month.
For user reviews and Q&A, see https://item.jd.com/product/4213312.html
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For user reviews and Q&A, see https://item.jd.com/product/4213312.html
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I decide to get one on the 9th, my visit to china shenzhen, that's if their store have them, but I don't think it's available, most of them have been snatched up and inflated in price.
kms108 said:
I decide to get one on the 9th, my visit to china shenzhen, that's if their store have them, but I don't think it's available, most of them have been snatched up and inflated in price.
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Yes It might be on stores but from resellers with price inflated by 300-500 CNY im guessing. The most preferred option for you might be if you have a friend in China who can order it online and you can collect it since you will visit China anyway.
I ordered one early from Aliexpress re sellers at 642$ (21% increase from original price which is high and won't recommend for everyone) as a preorder with a basic non-quick 3 week shipping. The resellers on Aliexpress have now inflated the price to ridiculous 750 to 900$. I will get my phone from the 1st batch which they are only receiving in past couple days. The second batch is being sold online on 1st of January i think.
There is a dedicated forum here now btw: http://forum.xda-developers.com/magic

Axon 40 Ultra

Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
kenturky said:
Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
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There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/zte-axon-30-5g.4352563/#post-85836153​
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Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
bigbadwolf_pig said:
There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/zte-axon-30-5g.4352563/#post-85836153​View attachment 5614611​
Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
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They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
Mackmiller974 said:
They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
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Ah, I thought they were blacklisted too. My bad.
AndyYan said:
BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
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There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
That's a shame, I was also considering this phone as it marks all my checkboxes.
But if BL won't be unlockable, and reading the Axon 30 issues with no updating SO, and SO full of bugs...I shall pass
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There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
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Sorry I'm late. Yes it's a shame that ZTE stopped bootloader unlocking for their Axon phones. The phone would've been great had they allowed it.
Fortunately, the Vivo X70 Pro Plus has an unlockable bootloader, and I'm hoping the X80 Pro Plus gets the same too. The X80 pro already has some great features and the Pro Plus which will probably be released with Snapdragon 8+G1 and possibly a larger battery, say 5000 mah with the same 80w charging.
Vivo barely allows bootloader unlocking for their previous phones. I hope they allow bootloader unlocking by default for their new high end phones.
Vivo x70 Pro+ Bootloader Unlock - HOW TO GUIDE
THIS GLITCH HAS BEEN FIXED AS OF MAY 2022. IF YOUR FIRMWARE IS PAST THAT SECURITY LEVEL YOU CAN NOT OPEN THE BOOTLOADER ANYMORE. WARNING! THIS IS EXPERIMENTAL, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE WE CAN GO FROM HERE. THIS MIGHT BREAK YOUR DEVICE!!! UNLOCKING...
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Hello,
I dont really know where to begin here so, hopefully someone on here can help. I have the ZTE Axon 40 Ultra, the Chinese version. I flashed android 13 beta 1 on the phone but, it has no google apps on it at all. I downloaded google play services apk, Google Play store and Gmail. None of them seem to work and it sounds like it all has to do with play services. Any thoughts and help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
How to make applications ignore the under-screen camera. The screen in games constantly shifts below the under-screen camera area. In the developer options in the zte axon 40 ultra, I did not find such an option to fix this. Maybe someone knows how to help me?
Damn, its 21 june already and only 6 post about 40U, looks like its kinda hopless to wait any root solution. Since then ZTE started giving zer0 f..k about community? I had Nubia Z11 there was a lot of people around that time, now its desert.
I will get my Axon 40 Ultra tomorrow. Is there anyone else with this wonderful phone?
I´d love to get it, but still no sure about the software, please dont hesitate to share your impressions
I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
Iluminatus23 said:
I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
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I will! And I will get the chinese version!
Why not the Global Edition?
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
Iluminatus23 said:
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
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Which UI languages are present? How good is English locale?
There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
Iluminatus23 said:
There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
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About the cameras, worse or better than your Vivo X80 pro?
That is Not an easy question. I would say Tele and night shots are a little Bit better in the X80 Pro but Not so much. Portraits are perhaps better on the ZTE....

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