Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
kenturky said:
Since there's no thread for the Axon 40 ultra yet at the time of posting, so I'll post my query here.
The Axon 40 ultra which was just released recently has the specifications that matches my needs...
> Primary 64MP cam with a large 1/1.3" sensor and excellent low light capability with an aperture size of f/1.6. Xiaomi barely goes below f/1.8 even in their high end phones like the 11 Ultra, and the 12 Ultra will definitely not add that large aperture. Gcam with this main camera would kill the competition in low light
> Front facing camera which is under display. It may not be that impressive, but at least I have the full status bar to myself. Had the Zenfone 6 earlier, and the Zenfone 8 doesn't impress me, so I skipped it.
> 5000mah battery with 80w charging. Currently only a handful of phones have this charging speed with 5000mah battery. Most of the phones have 4500mah batteries with 120 or 150w charging which is useless as what they should be doing is adding 10000mah batteries with those charging speeds.
The other specs with a less importance includes 512GB with USB C 3.1 which will enable speedy transfers to the PC, 144Hz display, 6.8 inches large display size (I would prefer 7 inches too these days with 20:9 or even 21:9 aspect ratio). I'm also expecting a speedy 5G modem which supports between 3 to 5Gbps download speeds and aren't mentioned on GSMArena.
So my question is... Will there be any good Custom ROM development on this phone? From what we can see, there's not a single Custom ROM for the Axon 30 Ultra, and it was launched in April last year. I wonder if it's due to unimpressive specs, or that no developer is interested in these phones.
This phone has great potential due to the impressive spec sheet. It would be a shame if there's no development on it.
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There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/zte-axon-30-5g.4352563/#post-85836153
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Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
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There's a lot of reasons why devs are not making roms for ZTE phones. Thing is with ZTE phones are they're not popular. They're not easy to purchase(well for their flagships, their low end phones are everywhere though) alleged Chinese security things that has been reported, I think they're still blacklisted in the US just like Huawei, I think. Their marketing sucks hence nobody has interest in their phones even if they have great specs. I think they're not even popular in China. Lastly, potential devs doesn't have nor plans to buy their phones, that's why nobody is making any roms for their phones. Now there are solutions for that. You can make your own rom for the phone or if you know a dev and he's willing to make a rom as long as you buy him that particular ZTE phone, because I doubt he's gonna buy a phone that doesn't interest him.
That's why before I buy a phone, I make sure to research first if the phone has lots of devs making tons of roms for that particular phone, so that I can be assured that my phone can last a long time.
Btw. Somebody already tried to make a gofundme and willing to pay a dev to make a lineageOS port for the Axon 30 and nobody replied. That just shows you that ZTE phones are not that popular and even if somebody was willing to pay, nobody is touching it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/zte-axon-30-5g.4352563/#post-85836153View attachment 5614611
Another one, This dude is made some custom roms for ZTE phones and already made a TWRP for the Axon 30 Ultra but he is having issues on how to unlock the bootloader. Goes to show that even if you know how to make custom roms if ZTE is not willing to have the bootloader unlocked then nobody can make a rom for it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-30-ultra-a2022pg-bootloader-unlock.4386661/
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They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
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They are allowed in the USA. It will be launching here on June 8th
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Ah, I thought they were blacklisted too. My bad.
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BL non-unlockable and likely won't ever be, end of story. Not MediaTek, and we're way past the age of loopholes.
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There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
That's a shame, I was also considering this phone as it marks all my checkboxes.
But if BL won't be unlockable, and reading the Axon 30 issues with no updating SO, and SO full of bugs...I shall pass
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There you go @kenturky. This the answer that you're looking for that's why no devs are making custom roms for ZTE.
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Sorry I'm late. Yes it's a shame that ZTE stopped bootloader unlocking for their Axon phones. The phone would've been great had they allowed it.
Fortunately, the Vivo X70 Pro Plus has an unlockable bootloader, and I'm hoping the X80 Pro Plus gets the same too. The X80 pro already has some great features and the Pro Plus which will probably be released with Snapdragon 8+G1 and possibly a larger battery, say 5000 mah with the same 80w charging.
Vivo barely allows bootloader unlocking for their previous phones. I hope they allow bootloader unlocking by default for their new high end phones.
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Hello,
I dont really know where to begin here so, hopefully someone on here can help. I have the ZTE Axon 40 Ultra, the Chinese version. I flashed android 13 beta 1 on the phone but, it has no google apps on it at all. I downloaded google play services apk, Google Play store and Gmail. None of them seem to work and it sounds like it all has to do with play services. Any thoughts and help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
How to make applications ignore the under-screen camera. The screen in games constantly shifts below the under-screen camera area. In the developer options in the zte axon 40 ultra, I did not find such an option to fix this. Maybe someone knows how to help me?
Damn, its 21 june already and only 6 post about 40U, looks like its kinda hopless to wait any root solution. Since then ZTE started giving zer0 f..k about community? I had Nubia Z11 there was a lot of people around that time, now its desert.
I will get my Axon 40 Ultra tomorrow. Is there anyone else with this wonderful phone?
I´d love to get it, but still no sure about the software, please dont hesitate to share your impressions
I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
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I will! But I will get the chinese version....let`s see!
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I will! And I will get the chinese version!
Why not the Global Edition?
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
Iluminatus23 said:
CN instead of global Just because of the price.
But i have to say that i am really Happy!
Coming from the Vivo X80 Pro...
At the Moment i do a comparison with Stock camera App vs Gcam.
Do you know how to Change the Gallery App of the Stock camera App? If i deactivate Google Fotos, i cant Go any Gallery anymore...
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Which UI languages are present? How good is English locale?
There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
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There are many UI languages present. German is not bad only the camera app is not translated very well!
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About the cameras, worse or better than your Vivo X80 pro?
That is Not an easy question. I would say Tele and night shots are a little Bit better in the X80 Pro but Not so much. Portraits are perhaps better on the ZTE....
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In case you haven't heard, the all new successor to our beloved HAM2 is the Mate7! Whether or not Huawei went through 4 different Mate models that we never knew about, I'll never know. I presume (since many people haven't heard of Huawei) they want the HAM7 to look "one step ahead" of the iPhone 6 and the Galaxy S6.
Here's the official Huawei page for the Mate7, and some pictures.
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Interestingly, the HAM7 already has its own XDA forum, whereas our phone only got one after months and months of nagging.
Height
157.0mm
Width
81.0mm
Depth
7.9mm
Weight
About 185g (including the battery)
Display
6.0" FHD Screen,1080P (1920 x 1080), 368PPI 16M colors
CPU
Hisilicon Kirin 925
4x1.8GHz + 4x1.3GHz + 1x230MHz
Operation System
Android™ 4.4/HUAWEI Emotion UI 3.0
Memory
RAM : 2 GB
ROM : 16 GB
Full specs here
Anyways, what do you think? Will you be getting this phone?
Seems like the phone is now in the same price range Samsung / HTC flagship phones. So not for me and also there is no mention of a USA version.
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It looks awesome.
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ecvision said:
Seems like the phone is now in the same price range Samsung / HTC flagship phones. So not for me and also there is no mention of a USA version.
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I think the biggest updates are the fingerprint sensor and the 1080p resolution. The rest of the specs are somewhat similar to our phone, so hopefully it won't have a huge price bump.
I'm sure a US version will come out eventually. Huawei wanted to come to the US with the HAM2 so it wouldn't make sense to not make this.
ScoobSTi said:
I think the biggest updates are the fingerprint sensor and the 1080p resolution. The rest of the specs are somewhat similar to our phone, so hopefully it won't have a huge price bump.
I'm sure a US version will come out eventually. Huawei wanted to come to the US with the HAM2 so it wouldn't make sense to not make this.
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Agreed. They are certainly ramping up to compete with the other big guys here. After having the HAM2 I have no reason to believe I'll go back to those others.
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That design is on point!
anyone know anything about the SoC Hisilicon Kirin 925 4x1.8GHz+4x1.3GHz+1x230MHz
WTF is it besides an octocore......are these chip makers a new company on the scene and if so is there any software that will be compatible with it....other than that a nice iphony look'a'like......:laugh:
mrsynister1971 said:
anyone know anything about the SoC Hisilicon Kirin 925 4x1.8GHz+4x1.3GHz+1x230MHz
WTF is it besides an octocore......are these chip makers a new company on the scene and if so is there any software that will be compatible with it....other than that a nice iphony look'a'like......:laugh:
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They are Huawei in house chip designers....
My Mate 2 MT2-L05 has a Hisilicon Kirin 910 chip in it which runs everything flawlessly, and if you look in the benchmarking thread, it also appears to be considerably faster than the Qualcomm 400 Snapdragon in the MT2-L03 US version, although until the MT2-L03 runs on 4.4.2 a direct comparison is slightly unfair.
The Mate7 will also be available in a 3GB RAM/32GB configuration.
I find it hard to believe Huawei would release a US version of the AM2, vastly improve it, and then not sell a US version of that successor. I would guess that a US version comes out a month or so after the foreign version is widely available.
I have the AM2. Without knowing what the AM7 would look like, my suggestions would've been:
Improve build quality
Make thinner+more compact
Lighter
Enable double tap to wake/faster way to unlock than antiquated side button
Improve performance+screen quality without sacrificing battery life
They've done all of the items on my list. I'll be trading in my Mate 2 for this baby the second a US compatible model becomes available.
JJ2525 said:
The Mate7 will also be available in a 3GB RAM/32GB configuration.
I find it hard to believe Huawei would release a US version of the AM2, vastly improve it, and then not sell a US version of that successor. I would guess that a US version comes out a month or so after the foreign version is widely available.
I have the AM2. Without knowing what the AM7 would look like, my suggestions would've been:
Improve build quality
Make thinner+more compact
Lighter
Enable double tap to wake/faster way to unlock than antiquated side button
Improve performance+screen quality without sacrificing battery life
They've done all of the items on my list. I'll be trading in my Mate 2 for this baby the second a US compatible model becomes available.
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Agreed.
Current phones, Ascend Mate 2, LG G3, LG G2, LG Lucid 3. Tablets, Nexus 7, LG GPad. I like the Ascend Mate 2 the best.
Most of the width and weight seems to be the battery. I changed the DPI to 264 and if not for application issues 240 was perfect screen is bright and clear flexible frame and screen I am more than impressed. Adjustments made and the phone is super snappy. I agree about the button placement though. Other than that really taken with this phone.
A model of the Mate7, MT7-L09 is purported to work with TMO/ATT LTE in the US. The price is higher than the AM2, but it's also a better screen, higher build quality and Android 4.4 out of the box. I'm thinking of giving it a shot.
http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Ascend-Display-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00PQZMKNY/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
I would rather go with the new nexus if I was to buy anything else for that price range
Not me. I prefer the significantly better battery life, thinner+more compact frame and microSD slot at $550 vs the Nexus 6 64GB at $750 after taxes.
Wish it had been this price when I bought my HAM2
Mate 7 is still too pricy for me... And doesn't have full network support only 1/2 bands supported so many places in the rural area I live in wouldn't have signal as I found out with my previous phone before the mate 2. I love the full network support and better connectivity with this $300 phone. 550 is still too much in my opinion.
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JJ2525 said:
Not me. I prefer the significantly better battery life, thinner+more compact frame and microSD slot at $550 vs the Nexus 6 64GB at $750 after taxes.
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Yeah you are right, hadn't thought about that.
JJ2525 said:
A model of the Mate7, MT7-L09 is purported to work with TMO/ATT LTE in the US. The price is higher than the AM2, but it's also a better screen, higher build quality and Android 4.4 out of the box. I'm thinking of giving it a shot.
http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Ascend-Display-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00PQZMKNY/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t
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Just want to mention that there is no official US version yet, this is an individual seller, so no warranty, no support, even seller reputation need put into consideration. Of course network/band will be another issue.
Greetings,
I know officially mhl is not supported on galaxy alpha
For curiosity's sake and confirmation - will someone please plug in an mhl cable and test if there's any hdmi video signal to the monitor?
Many thanks!
jazzaddict said:
Greetings,
I know officially mhl is not supported on galaxy alpha
For curiosity's sake and confirmation - will someone please plug in an mhl cable and test if there's any hdmi video signal to the monitor?
Many thanks!
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Nope, it won't work. I have one that I use for my Samsung Tab Pro 10,1, and it doesn't output anything on the Galaxy Alpha. I was actually amazed when it didn't mostly becuase Samsung seems to have cut corners everywhere on this device besides the chassis.
Thank you for testing that out..
I had been contemplating on galaxy alpha as it is on clearance... with the lack of community development for this device...I guess I'll give it a miss and see what does S6 have for offer
jazzaddict said:
Thank you for testing that out..
I had been contemplating on galaxy alpha as it is on clearance... with the lack of community development for this device...I guess I'll give it a miss and see what does S6 have for offer
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I shelled out for the Alpha, 0/10 wouldn't do again. Good choice on a flagship that will at least get support with time. This is horrendous. I really need to learn compiling roms. There's like NO development for this device. I should have learned by now not to buy niche products.
CuraeL said:
I shelled out for the Alpha, 0/10 wouldn't do again. Good choice on a flagship that will at least get support with time. This is horrendous. I really need to learn compiling roms. There's like NO development for this device. I should have learned by now not to buy niche products.
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What problems your alpha has? At least mine works like charm, no need for CM or any other custom rom... This is first Android for me that I haven't rooted. Usually people need an software update or custom ROM, when the device has something missing and/or something is not working properly.
toms95 said:
What problems your alpha has? At least mine works like charm, no need for CM or any other custom rom... This is first Android for me that I haven't rooted. Usually people need an software update or custom ROM, when the device has something missing and/or something is not working properly.
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Well for starters, when I listen to music from Google Play and the device goes into sleep in the pocket it starts lagging, lol. It only stops when it has fully switched onto the smaller processor, I guess? To me that's bad coding. TouchWiz is still clunky and too colorful for my liking, and the dark blue color is just not to my liking either. The screen is not THAT good either, I would have expected them to use a more expensive amoled on this one but hell, can't have it all, I can live with it.
I bought it for the looks and I hoped more people, devs and such, would be willing to buy it. Samsung makes decent products, their software is absolute bollocks if you ask me. Like I said, I took a chance and bought a device that at the time didn't have any development going for it, and to this day it still hasn't.
I am really happy that you enjoy your Sammy device, even if to me it sounds like you have a bloated up phone due to no root. But I guess there is something for everyone. How ever I must ask you to understand that I don't look for the same as you, apparently do, from the phone. I want stock vanilla or CM on my device because I find it more soothing. My Exynos tablet finally got it and I was hoping this phone would too.. So yes, I took two chances with Samsung now. The first one ended well but I feel like this one isn't going to work out quite as well. I say these things solely because I enjoy these things in a phone. We're simply different people and you do not need to understand me or see the display the way I do, for instance.
I do not intend to squash your enjoyment of your device at all. I am really happy that you enjoy your phone. How ever when I look at the display and the software, I find it lacking for the price, and I know that CM or vanilla would at least ease me off a bit.
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Well for starters, when I listen to music from Google Play and the device goes into sleep in the pocket it starts lagging, lol. It only stops when it has fully switched onto the smaller processor, I guess? To me that's bad coding. TouchWiz is still clunky and too colorful for my liking, and the dark blue color is just not to my liking either. The screen is not THAT good either, I would have expected them to use a more expensive amoled on this one but hell, can't have it all, I can live with it.
I bought it for the looks and I hoped more people, devs and such, would be willing to buy it. Samsung makes decent products, their software is absolute bollocks if you ask me. Like I said, I took a chance and bought a device that at the time didn't have any development going for it, and to this day it still hasn't.
I am really happy that you enjoy your Sammy device, even if to me it sounds like you have a bloated up phone due to no root. But I guess there is something for everyone. How ever I must ask you to understand that I don't look for the same as you, apparently do, from the phone. I want stock vanilla or CM on my device because I find it more soothing. My Exynos tablet finally got it and I was hoping this phone would too.. So yes, I took two chances with Samsung now. The first one ended well but I feel like this one isn't going to work out quite as well. I say these things solely because I enjoy these things in a phone. We're simply different people and you do not need to understand me or see the display the way I do, for instance.
I do not intend to squash your enjoyment of your device at all. I am really happy that you enjoy your phone. How ever when I look at the display and the software, I find it lacking for the price, and I know that CM or vanilla would at least ease me off a bit.
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It is just first time, that bloated samsung crapwized phone works like it should.... At least I use most of samsung stuff... for fun mostly... Of course I have disabled mymagazine and s-voice, because they were slowing things down, but on most part it works. And cm rom is on the way and it will be nice, light and smooth as all of them just wait and see. BTW even nexus 5 is slowed by battery-draining, sometimes laggy Google services. So I would agree that good cm port is better than any stock rom. Problem with our device is custom hardware. For instance wolfson sound processing hub, exynos octa 9 (or more) core processor with 4+4+1+.... cores for everything, custom camera sensor, heart rate monitor, independent intel modem.... and so on, makes it hard for developers to work, but is awesome when they take their time. You should hear what that wolfson chip is capable of when it is de-restricted and reprogrammed to use all functions it has.
All this makes me think that this phone has received much R&D money than half of devices they have released this year together.
P.S. To be honest I usually brake stuff, but i bought this, because it was small and light, had 1 year free screen insurance, wolfson sound, OLED screen (the newest gen ALMOLED tech with diamond matrix was a bonus), durability (small samsungs are strong and it has GG4 on the screen), camera (sensor and software) and power (THAT exynos).
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It is just first time, that bloated samsung crapwized phone works like it should.... At least I use most of samsung stuff... for fun mostly... Of course I have disabled mymagazine and s-voice, because they were slowing things down, but on most part it works. And cm rom is on the way and it will be nice, light and smooth as all of them just wait and see. BTW even nexus 5 is slowed by battery-draining, sometimes laggy Google services. So I would agree that good cm port is better than any stock rom. Problem with our device is custom hardware. For instance wolfson sound processing hub, exynos octa 9 (or more) core processor with 4+4+1+.... cores for everything, custom camera sensor, heart rate monitor, independent intel modem.... and so on, makes it hard for developers to work, but is awesome when they take their time. You should hear what that wolfson chip is capable of when it is de-restricted and reprogrammed to use all functions it has.
All this makes me think that this phone has received much R&D money than half of devices they have released this year together.
P.S. To be honest I usually brake stuff, but i bought this, because it was small and light, had 1 year free screen insurance, wolfson sound, OLED screen (the newest gen ALMOLED tech with diamond matrix was a bonus), durability (small samsungs are strong and it has GG4 on the screen), camera (sensor and software) and power (THAT exynos).
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I do know the processor in theory should be great. But because Samsung is not releasing anything useful we can't take advantage. And I'm sorry to say this but progress is stalling like a boss on the unofficial port of CM11, which if I might add is already an older edition of CM than what is currently being dev'd by the Cyanogen boys.. Not to mention by the time it's done it's going to be even older. I appreciate the effort but it's a very slow progress, it's not the devs fault, it's Samsung's fault.
By the way, once again, I'm glad you enjoy the heart rate thingy and such but I really don't need it. I just wanted the metal chassis and the perfect size factor of this device. A some what sturdy built Samsung for once. Not too plasticky. The thing you mention about "new display technology" I don' really follow. PenTile is so freaking weird when it comes to the green subpixels. I will still hold my ground on that I can see that fitfh less green in each subpixel. I've described this as "stitching" effect earlier. The way you can see on a solid icon for instance, that the red color is not "level" all the way down, it's more of a line of sown pixels. It can be seen on white text too, it's like the edges of the text blurs into a dark background. On such a small display I'm certain that 720p would look more clear in an LCD display with protoPenTile, RGBW or an IPS display. But I'm really nitpicking the display here and like I said, when I'm at a fair distance of the display I don't notice it and I can live with it. It's just my brain is annoying me with the fact that it's THERE, lol.
Don't brake your phone this time then, that's too expensive a phone for that.
ttyl
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(the newest gen ALMOLED tech with diamond matrix was a bonus)
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Look at the white around the reds.. It's a weird effect that I can see even when I'm holding the phone down in normal position. Sorry I know it is a big picture.
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Would you buy the Huawei Honor Magic ?
Honor magic details
https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/16/huawei-honor-magic/
http://www.honor.cn/products/mobile-phones/honor-magic/
http://www.gizmochina.com/2016/12/1...nt-magic-live-assistant-everything-need-know/
Unboxing:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg2Nzk3ODg1Ng==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2&spm=a2h0k.8191407.0.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHLa3SunEe0&t=4s
Honor Magic Disassembled:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3MTIxOTE0NA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Honor magic designed by Things To Be:
https://www.dexigner.com/news/29618
Early hands on reviews:
http://mobile.pconline.com.cn/867/8679962.html
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3Nzc4ODAxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3ODczNTcxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3OTM4NDg2MA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Pros over P9 plus:
Handy size 5.1inch screen
curved edge screen/pebble shape
2k screen
front finger scanner with navigation controls
New eye & face scanner/infra red camera for access & privacy
Frame sensor for hand recognition
Fast charging (70% in 20 mins)
(Some contextual aware features which most likely will not work outside China)
New Variant UI that will be developed differently from EMUI, with more youth and innovation centric.
Cons:
Not Leica branded lens and photo processing
No external memory card
Huawei branding (530$ is high for a budget branded "Honor" phone)
P9 plus has larger screen & larger battery
No pressure touch screen (Google has their software alternative though)
No stereo speakers
No changes:
12mp dual camera (not the 20mp of mate 9)
Kirin 950
Amoled Screen
If the magic has the newer Kirin 960 (LPDDR4+UFS2.1 Flash memory + Mali G71MP8) i would have gone for it without a thought. But now its not so easy. The whole front finger print sensor and eye scanner features makes it very tempting for me as when im at my work desk having to put password every time is such a pain. The P9 plus still looks very gorgeous, slim and premium and love it design wise while the Honor magic design looks pretty cool, radical & futurish. Im not a camera guy so not really important for me to have that latest best of the best camera.
Would you take the risk and go for honor Magic now or patient enough to wait another 6-8 months for the p10 which would have the Kirin 960, top notch camera, eye scanner, front finger print and bluetooth 5.0 but with more hefty price tag.
Would never go for less battery ...
xeizo said:
Would never go for less battery ...
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Has fast charging though. If the 2k screen on the 2900mah can last a day with no worrying about, then a 30 minute charge is not a problem for me personally. The p9 plus for me is caught in between as it lasts like 1 and half day and has to be charged every day as well to keep up that other half day.
If fast charging works on the same chipset. It will work also on P9 Plus with the same specs.
marc_ecko28 said:
If fast charging works on the same chipset. It will work also on P9 Plus with the same specs.
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The battery on the magic is built different, as well as additional safety measures in place. It has a 5V/8A charger.
i'm considering the magic, but need to know if I can install play store and side upload apk apps.
kms108 said:
i'm considering the magic, but need to know if I can install play store and side upload apk apps.
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Yes you can for sure. All EMUI phones can. We usually use the pre-installed Huawei appstore to download playstore.
Also read this thread here for a general idea of what to expect on software side on a China version phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/p9-plus/help/to-vie-al10-t3386700
Thanks for the reply, from your experience, do you think there will be a hong kong version of the magic, or even a upgrade version with the 960 chipset to support simultaneous 4G/3G on both sim, just like the current Mate 9, or may be a 128GB version, as i'm not sure how huawei markets their phones, release one now, and a upgrade version afterwards.
Also are most bloatware deletable or allow to be disable on huawei phone.
kms108 said:
Thanks for the reply, from your experience, do you think there will be a hong kong version of the magic, or even a upgrade version with the 960 chipset to support simultaneous 4G/3G on both sim, just like the current Mate 9, or may be a 128GB version, as i'm not sure how huawei markets their phones, release one now, and a upgrade version afterwards.
Also are most bloatware deletable or allow to be disable on huawei phone.
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Very very unlikely they will bring a Kirin 960. Any variant will be just a color and memory variant at max (Even color and memory variant they for now neither confirm nor deny it). If Magic was a hit they would likely bring a big size version of the phone with pumped up specs in 6-8months after release of Huawei P10. I still have no idea why they decided to go for K950 as it is such a weird choice for a 2k screen phone marketed as the future phone. Have to see the performance in hand. The honor 8 had good reviews, so maybe they wanted to continue and feel confident with all their optimizations, and also maybe to not cut down sales of Mate 9.
News sites mention Honor looking for partners like facebook to make Honor magic release in India possible. So might see in HonkKong as well. Although i also feel it could be a bit too late if it was not planned already.
As far as i read, the magic is dual sim and 4g in the sense that you can with software settings switch around which one sim uses 4g while other sim remaims on 2g. So both cannot be on 4g at same time but you can switch between sims by settings.
Yes most bloatware deletable, except for a couple of Huawei apps.
warea said:
Very very unlikely they will bring a Kirin 960. Any variant will be just a color and memory variant at max (Even color and memory variant they for now neither confirm nor deny it). If Magic was a hit they would likely bring a big size version of the phone with pumped up specs in 6-8months after release of Huawei P10. I still have no idea why they decided to go for K950 as it is such a weird choice for a 2k screen phone marketed as the future phone. Have to see the performance in hand. The honor 8 had good reviews, so maybe they wanted to continue and feel confident with all their optimizations, and also maybe to not cut down sales of Mate 9.
News sites mention Honor looking for partners like facebook to make Honor magic release in India possible. So might see in HonkKong as well. Although i also feel it could be a bit too late if it was not planned already.
As far as i read, the magic is dual sim and 4g in the sense that you can with software settings switch around which one sim uses 4g while other sim remaims on 2g. So both cannot be on 4g at same time but you can switch between sims by settings.
Yes most bloatware deletable, except for a couple of Huawei apps.
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I spoken to a friend who works for Huawei, he hasn't heard about the magic, but did say that it will not be available in Hong Kong for sure, Hong Kong has stopped selling Huawei Honor series for a good few years now, and has concertrated on the P series and Mate, mid range phones like the honor series won't be available, so my only choice is to buy it direct from china, hopefully they do sell them locally from a authorized store, as I don't buy phones through online, although I do know you can get the magic from 4 huawei authorised online site. So once I get to see this phone in person I will get it on the 9th of next month.
For user reviews and Q&A, see https://item.jd.com/product/4213312.html
warea said:
For user reviews and Q&A, see https://item.jd.com/product/4213312.html
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I decide to get one on the 9th, my visit to china shenzhen, that's if their store have them, but I don't think it's available, most of them have been snatched up and inflated in price.
kms108 said:
I decide to get one on the 9th, my visit to china shenzhen, that's if their store have them, but I don't think it's available, most of them have been snatched up and inflated in price.
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Yes It might be on stores but from resellers with price inflated by 300-500 CNY im guessing. The most preferred option for you might be if you have a friend in China who can order it online and you can collect it since you will visit China anyway.
I ordered one early from Aliexpress re sellers at 642$ (21% increase from original price which is high and won't recommend for everyone) as a preorder with a basic non-quick 3 week shipping. The resellers on Aliexpress have now inflated the price to ridiculous 750 to 900$. I will get my phone from the 1st batch which they are only receiving in past couple days. The second batch is being sold online on 1st of January i think.
There is a dedicated forum here now btw: http://forum.xda-developers.com/magic
I am thinking of buying the new Z1 pro. Have not seen any real reviews. Is this phone good to buy? Any thoughts from owners?
rvs80 said:
I am thinking of buying the new Z1 pro. Have not seen any real reviews. Is this phone good to buy? Any thoughts from owners?
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for the moment just http://community.umidigi.com/article-334-1.html
http://community.umidigi.com/article-333-1.html
The PROCESSOR is the same as you think the z's root method works?
Just wait a little longer.
I will not buy a device from UMIDIGI before I have read a detailed and INDEPENDENT test.
UMIDIGI always promises very much, but can not keep much of it.
marco.deluxe said:
Just wait a little longer.
I will not buy a device from UMIDIGI before I have read a detailed and INDEPENDENT test.
UMIDIGI always promises very much, but can not keep much of it.
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I'm also undecided between z1 and ASUS Zenfone 3, which seems to me to be more solid as a reputation, but UMIDIGI seems to have, on paper, good catheterization.
Yes, on the paper the devices of UMIDIGI are good.
In reality, however, it looks different.
At the UMI Super it was called the display is Corning Gorilla Glass 3.
That was a fake.
In the UMI community, so many people have reported about their broken display.
Better spend a few more Euros and buy the device of a well-known brand.
The displays of UMIDIGI break relatively quickly and no one in Europe will install you a new one.
There is no service here.
marco.deluxe said:
Yes, on the paper the devices of UMIDIGI are good.
In reality, however, it looks different.
At the UMI Super it was called the display is Corning Gorilla Glass 3.
That was a fake.
In the UMI community, so many people have reported about their broken display.
Better spend a few more Euros and buy the device of a well-known brand.
The displays of UMIDIGI break relatively quickly and no one in Europe will install you a new one.
There is no service here.
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In fact, what brakes me is that there is no reviews around and then, since I'm a flashaoilic, I did not find anything interesting about
Here you will find a lot of information about the Z1 Pro.
http://community.umidigi.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=160
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You can also look in the other forums and read what the customers write about other UMIDIGI devices.
So you get a good impression what you expect when you buy a device of this brand.
cieffe54 said:
I'm also undecided between z1 and ASUS Zenfone 3, which seems to me to be more solid as a reputation, but UMIDIGI seems to have, on paper, good catheterization.
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Thanks for suggesting zenfone 3. Same price bracket and very good specs if not the best. I think I will go for Asus. Only thing i may miss is Dual camera system for the bokehs.
For me the bokeh mode is just a nice gimmick.
A good single camera, which makes good pictures even in poor light conditions, I find much more important.
There's better options and no root for z pro, camera is OK and bokeh as said is gimmick.
Support is lousy from UmiDigi also ROMs have pretty much no extras included to tweak. Thing twice
Redskull reviewed the Z1 / pro on youtube and is not soo impressed. Especially for the current price:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnrDXj4r8T4
In my opinion UMIDIGI produces one smartphone after another and does this in too high frequency without any good quality.
Just spend your money on a better brand. If you're into Chinese phones, buy a Xiaomi (for good camera quality the Mi5s for example).
Noxxit said:
Redskull reviewed the Z1 / pro on youtube and is not soo impressed. Especially for the current price:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnrDXj4r8T4
In my opinion UMIDIGI produces one smartphone after another and does this in too high frequency without any good quality.
Just spend your money on a better brand. If you're into Chinese phones, buy a Xiaomi (for good camera quality the Mi5s for example).
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Damn this phone is horrible for the price.
Heck, vernee mars pro which has a faster CPU costs less than this.
I would switch to a better known brand.
I have the impression that many of the Chinese smartphones come from the same factory.
Look at the UMIDIGI Z Pro, Ulefone Gemini Pro and NOA H10.
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This is no coincidence.
Never ever buy a umidigi phone !
Adds look good ! all reviews are paid.
Umidigi has very bad developers in their team, every rom has new and bigger buggs. And the problems never get fixed.
Every phone has huge battery drain + bad camera because of bad optimized software.
The sourcecode is not opensource, so you can not get custom roms of devs that know how to make one.
Your stuck with those stupid guys from umidigi who can't make roms and are fckn slow. Also they delete every negativ review/post.
DONT GET FOOLED LIKE ME!
Nark0tiX said:
Never ever buy a umidigi phone !
Adds look good ! all reviews are paid.
Umidigi has very bad developers in their team, every rom has new and bigger buggs. And the problems never get fixed.
Every phone has huge battery drain + bad camera because of bad optimized software.
The sourcecode is not opensource, so you can not get custom roms of devs that know how to make one.
Your stuck with those stupid guys from umidigi who can't make roms and are fckn slow. Also they delete every negativ review/post.
DONT GET FOOLED LIKE ME!
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I totally agree with you.
I just bought the Z1 Pro and how disappointed I'm am, I can almost cry!
They seem good on paper but rubbish in real life.
I made this mistake for not investigating more about this make.
It's a hard way of learning your lesson!
No one should but and Umidigi phone ever!
Keep away!
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By the way, I'd like to ask this please:
Can anyone tell me if a phone with a double camera if you put your finger on top on each of the lenses, should the image on the screen always be blocked on both of the lenses?
The reason I'm asking is because this only happens on my Umidigi Z1 Pro on one of the lenses only so I'm thinking that the other lense is only there as a gimmick or its fake!
Can this be possible?
By the way the picture quality is so bad it's unbelievable!
As an owner of Z pro I say save your money - Don't buy UMIDIGI phone (not this model and not other model)
Software includes many bugs and there is no decent support
They fix one bug and add 2 new
juv3nal said:
I totally agree with you.
I just bought the Z1 Pro and how disappointed I'm am, I can almost cry!
They seem good on paper but rubbish in real life.
I made this mistake for not investigating more about this make.
It's a hard way of learning your lesson!
No one should but and Umidigi phone ever!
Keep away!
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By the way, I'd like to ask this please:
Can anyone tell me if a phone with a double camera if you put your finger on top on each of the lenses, should the image on the screen always be blocked on both of the lenses?
The reason I'm asking is because this only happens on my Umidigi Z1 Pro on one of the lenses only so I'm thinking that the other lense is only there as a gimmick or its fake!
Can this be possible?
By the way the picture quality is so bad it's unbelievable!
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I speak as an ignorant user.
From what I know, bokeh effect requires 2 cameras?
So I tried bokeh effect first covering the lens on the left (if you're looking at the lens) and then with both lenses open.
From the gallery, the first image had the refocus option greyed out. For the second, (file name included "STEREO"),I could refocus the picture.
So I assume from this that both cameras on my Umidigi Z pro is real and present.
Sorry if the picture is blurred - I don't have really steady hands.
chooks06 said:
I speak as an ignorant user.
From what I know, bokeh effect requires 2 cameras?
So I tried bokeh effect first covering the lens on the left (if you're looking at the lens) and then with both lenses open.
From the gallery, the first image had the refocus option greyed out. For the second, (file name included "STEREO"),I could refocus the picture.
So I assume from this that both cameras on my Umidigi Z pro is real and present.
Sorry if the picture is blurred - I don't have really steady hands.
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Edit...
Took a shot in auto mode, focus point on the banner, no flash, at dusk 7.30pm GMT+8..
chooks06 said:
Edit...
Took a shot in auto mode, focus point on the banner, no flash, at dusk 7.30pm GMT+8..
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Further edit.. About 15 min later, same settings..
Quality is bad..I got better results on my old Asus Zenfone 2... May swap back to that..
I need your opinions on the mi a3. I'm thinking of switching from redmj note 7. I like the size, and of course stock Android. Can you guys give some personal pros and cons from your time with the device?
ouroboros12 said:
I need your opinions on the mi a3. I'm thinking of switching from redmj note 7. I like the size, and of course stock Android. Can you guys give some personal pros and cons from your time with the device?
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If ur thinking between note 7 and mi a3 then mi a3 is better overall, note 7 just has a sharper display but that's not u gonna notice its fine while the a3 display is amoled, mi a3 has better camera sensor sony on mi a3 and samsung on note 7 and a3 has a extra camera too. But not exactly a huge upgrade so stick with note 7
Simran62 said:
If ur thinking between note 7 and mi a3 then mi a3 is better overall, note 7 just has a sharper display but that's not u gonna notice its fine while the a3 display is amoled, mi a3 has better camera sensor sony on mi a3 and samsung on note 7 and a3 has a extra camera too. But not exactly a huge upgrade so stick with note 7
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Don't buy the A3, the display is a disaster. It is a complete %$#@ up.
peterf81 said:
Don't buy the A3, the display is a disaster. It is a complete %$#@ up.
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He's back! Bleeding eyeball man!
Go for Motorola One Vision instead : fullHD+ non PWM, NFC, camera optical stabilization, splash proof, ...
MI A3 has the worst display I ever saw in my life. Oversaturated, low-res, pentile, heavy PWM. Did buy it from eshop, so I did not know what I'm getting into.
ouroboros12 said:
I need your opinions on the mi a3. I'm thinking of switching from redmj note 7. I like the size, and of course stock Android. Can you guys give some personal pros and cons from your time with the device?
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The size is great. Display resolution is quite low, but no disaster, you can get used to it quite quickly (I would advise to use OLED Saver app to skip PWM brightness control though). It certainly would look nicer with FHD resolution, but battery would take a hit (and possibly it would increase the phone size as well). With HD the battery life is very good (e.g. 35% left after 3 days with 6 hours of screen on time - Chrome, Youtube,..).
So far I stumbled upon 2 issues:
- 2G and 3G data doesn't seem to be working, only 4G. I'm not the only one with this problem, users from different locations report it. Hopefully will get fixed in the next update, even if it doesn't impact everybody.
- LED notification doesn't seem to be working for every app (e.g. Gmail works, Google messages not)
I have the EU variant with EU ROM.
If you're coming from MIUI, bare Android system might not be to your liking. Be sure that you are ok with missing features of MIUI (although most of them can be replicated with some effort).
debido666 said:
He's back! Bleeding eyeball man!
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I thought he was in a hospital or something lol but apparently he is still trolling around, with his bleeding eyes
Do not listen to those trolls. Trust me, the display is ___CATASTROPHIC___. It is the only phone which uses this particular display, and I think the last also. Don't make the same mistake as I did. MI A1 was great, A2 was also good, but A3 is disaster.
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Do not listen to those trolls. Trust me, the display is ___CATASTROPHIC___. It is the only phone which uses this particular display, and I think the last also. Don't make the same mistake as I did. MI A1 was great, A2 was also good, but A3 is disaster.
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Thanks for your input. I'll be checking the device out in one of the stores here. Im considering the mi 9 lite as well, but I'd like Android one more than miui
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The size is great. Display resolution is quite low, but no disaster, you can get used to it quite quickly (I would advise to use OLED Saver app to skip PWM brightness control though). It certainly would look nicer with FHD resolution, but battery would take a hit (and possibly it would increase the phone size as well). With HD the battery life is very good (e.g. 35% left after 3 days with 6 hours of screen on time - Chrome, Youtube,..).
So far I stumbled upon 2 issues:
- 2G and 3G data doesn't seem to be working, only 4G. I'm not the only one with this problem, users from different locations report it. Hopefully will get fixed in the next update, even if it doesn't impact everybody.
- LED notification doesn't seem to be working for every app (e.g. Gmail works, Google messages not)
I have the EU variant with EU ROM.
If you're coming from MIUI, bare Android system might not be to your liking. Be sure that you are ok with missing features of MIUI (although most of them can be replicated with some effort).
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I actually have the note 7 with PE10 installed. I'm quite used to stock Android. Hopefully future updates can fix those problems. What about the FOD?
peterf81 said:
Go for Motorola One Vision instead : fullHD+ non PWM, NFC, camera optical stabilization, splash proof, ...
MI A3 has the worst display I ever saw in my life. Oversaturated, low-res, pentile, heavy PWM. Did buy it from eshop, so I did not know what I'm getting into.
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We don't have Moto from where I'm at. I'll check some online shops. Thanks
_mysiak_ said:
The size is great. Display resolution is quite low, but no disaster, you can get used to it quite quickly (I would advise to use OLED Saver app to skip PWM brightness control though). It certainly would look nicer with FHD resolution, but battery would take a hit (and possibly it would increase the phone size as well). With HD the battery life is very good (e.g. 35% left after 3 days with 6 hours of screen on time - Chrome, Youtube,..).
So far I stumbled upon 2 issues:
- 2G and 3G data doesn't seem to be working, only 4G. I'm not the only one with this problem, users from different locations report it. Hopefully will get fixed in the next update, even if it doesn't impact everybody.
- LED notification doesn't seem to be working for every app (e.g. Gmail works, Google messages not)
I have the EU variant with EU ROM.
If you're coming from MIUI, bare Android system might not be to your liking. Be sure that you are ok with missing features of MIUI (although most of them can be replicated with some effort).
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I'm fine with stock Android. Been using it since JB. I want the miA3 for the Android one program. I'd like to get official 10. I'm currently using PE10 at the moment it rn7. Mi A3 is the best option for now atleast. Hopefully updates could fix some of those issues. Thanks for the input
ouroboros12 said:
I actually have the note 7 with PE10 installed. I'm quite used to stock Android. Hopefully future updates can fix those problems. What about the FOD?
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- I don't have any issues with 2G/3G data.
- Though LED notifications are definitely not working for all apps (hopefully it will be fixed in future updates).
- FOD is not the fastest. I have an anecdotal issue with unlocking when my fingers are clean and dry (I more inclined to think it's due to dryness). One would expect issues with reading when sensor/fingers are dirty
- Display resolution and pixel density are not that bad as some ppl complain, but if it's a top requirement for you I would go in-store and have a look on it, played with brightness, read some text, etc before buying.
peterf81 said:
Don't buy the A3, the display is a disaster. It is a complete %$#@ up.
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Its not that bad
ouroboros12 said:
I'm fine with stock Android. Been using it since JB. I want the miA3 for the Android one program. I'd like to get official 10. I'm currently using PE10 at the moment it rn7. Mi A3 is the best option for now atleast. Hopefully updates could fix some of those issues. Thanks for the input
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Do not buy the Mi A3, you will regret it everytime you use it. Most ppl will not admit that their new phone was a very bad buy - they are in denial (you can observe that in this thread).
Lol. The only thing most ppl can observe is that you cannot accept the loss of $160 on the wrong purchase.
I want Q and custom rom support. :fingers-crossed: Is the display really that bad?
Nope. But any review is subjective. If you're uncertain go in-store and take a look on it. Or take on risk, buy it and accept a potential loss of 156 USD (current price of 4/64 unit on Ali) on a device not meeting your expectations.
qwertysmerty said:
Nope. But any review is subjective. If you're uncertain go in-store and take a look on it. Or take on risk, buy it and accept a potential loss of 156 USD (current price of 4/64 unit on Ali) on a device not meeting your expectations.
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I suppose. I'll be checking it out. Only thing that's stopping me from getting a mi 9 lite is the lack of support.