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After seeing the screen on the samsung galaxy s II i'm pretty confident that its what i'll be getting, but...I'm concerned about burn in.
One of the reasons I was leaning towards the htc sensation is that with slcd I don't have to worry about burn in at all, but how much do i really have to worry about it?
I havn't seen many people complain about burn in on the first galaxy s, but there are still some cases.
Is it reduced on the galaxy s II?
Are the chances of this happening so low that I shouldnt worry about it?
How cheap/easy is it to replace the screen if this happens?
im interested in this as well
Hi,
I´m an Omnia 2 I8000 owner since 10.2009. It was the first phone on market with Samsungs Amoled-screen.
I allways use Black themes.
I don´t have any problems with screen burn up to now. You can see it slightly on testimages, but in normal use, you won´t notice it at all! I would post pictures, but my Display was replaced(Dust under the screen) a month ago, so its new again...
Rgds
Is there even such a problem on AMOLED screens? I came from a Nexus One with AMOLED screen and never had such issues, and I believe the screen was made by Samsung too.
hycian said:
Is there even such a problem on AMOLED screens?
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Amoled screens are basically plasma screens for phones.
They're completely different technologies, but the pros/cons are almost the same.
lcds make a picture but the backlight is what allows us to see it so clearly.
amoled make their own light, but they have a lifespan.
so the pixels that get the most use tend to fade, and leave a 'burn in' effect.
Berserk87 said:
After seeing the screen on the samsung galaxy s II i'm pretty confident that its what i'll be getting, but...I'm concerned about burn in.
One of the reasons I was leaning towards the htc sensation is that with slcd I don't have to worry about burn in at all, but how much do i really have to worry about it?
I havn't seen many people complain about burn in on the first galaxy s, but there are still some cases.
Is it reduced on the galaxy s II?
Are the chances of this happening so low that I shouldnt worry about it?
How cheap/easy is it to replace the screen if this happens?
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Burn in happens as early as 4-6 months of use with most AMOLED based screens, this happens mostly on the clock section of the notification bar, there is a long thread about this on the SGS1 forums. Honestly burn in is the least of concerns, be more concerned about the yellow tinting issue on most SAMOLED Plus screens.
Well ive had a samsung jet for some 3-4 years, one of the first amoleds (i think)
and i dont have a hint of burn in, i also got a htc desire after that because i fell in love with amoled and that doesnt have any burn in either. Now i have my sgs2 and the amoled love continues. I have a plasma screen at home so i am very familliar with burn in (nasty shock in the morning when falling asleep with it on!).
I think if samsung thought these were going to burn in they would have put screen protection/pixel flushing just like they did with my samsung plasma tv. Its really not a worry in my mind and i use bright blue glowing themes which are the most aggressive on amoled pixels.
Ive read horror stories of burn in but those are just faulty screens/handsets.
Heres the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892498&page=16&highlight=amoled+burnin
what im still unable to find is how easy it would be to replace the screen if it were to burn in, and what it would cost.
never knew these AMOLED screens have image retention problems.
My Nexus One had terrible screen burn, the Froyo notification bar was clearly visable when not actually displayed. Hope the SGS2 does not go this way.
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Is there even such a problem on AMOLED screens? I came from a Nexus One with AMOLED screen and never had such issues, and I believe the screen was made by Samsung too.
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Yes there is a problem. My nexus one has permanent burn in. And I made a thread with many others posting pics of their burn in.
Its just a trait of amoled screens. My status bar, clock am pm, and keyboard are all burnt in to the screen on my nexus one.
Search the forum, this topic has already been covered.
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Yes, but i cant find anything saying if its been improved on the amoled plus screens.
I would assume that the efficiency boost would lessen the effect a bit because it should boost the pixel lifespan, but im not 100%.
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Yes, but i cant find anything saying if its been improved on the amoled plus screens.
I would assume that the efficiency boost would lessen the effect a bit because it should boost the pixel lifespan, but im not 100%.
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Yes that is the question now, we don't know how much amoled plus improves this issue. I have to think that its gonna be much improved with this new generation.
Mine already seems to suffer from burn-in, most noticeable whenever my auto-brightness shifts to lower thresholds (had my SGS2 since the last day of June 2011). I wonder if Sammy can do any replacement for me.
I got a burn in too. The four bottom icons start to be visible with notification bar pulled down.
Looks like I ain't the only one with an sgs2 with this issue then. I notice it's only visible at low brightness - approximately 10-15%. And my notification bar has always been black.
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Got mine since it's release in May, always used very low brightness settings and a low screen-off-timer, 30 seconds or one minute.
Status bar is visible on red background and very visible on blue, some icons and the clock time are present all the time.
Really pathetic after very moderate and careful use in five month.
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Got mine since it's release in May, always used very low brightness settings and a low screen-off-timer, 30 seconds or one minute.
Status bar is visible on red background and very visible on blue, some icons and the clock time are present all the time.
Really pathetic after very moderate and careful use in five month.
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Similar to my usage pattern mate. Pathetic is the word. Damn.
I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
Thank for any shared thought.
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I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
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Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
Try it with and without the Bravia engine enabled.
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Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
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kirbygonzalo, thanks but even googling it I couldn't find anything about wire stripe or ribbon.
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I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
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sdk16420, thanks for sharing this, It is somehow a relief for me to know I'm not alone in this. Yet, I'll wait until next week to see if I can find more explanations, and then maybe I'll return it for a replace. It's especially bad for me, as I waited a lot to receive the silver one (a week or so), and I don't know if I can find another.
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Try it with and without the Bravia engine enabled.
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It doesn't depend on Bravia Engine, unfortunately. It was also the first thing that came into my mind, tried it several times, even with deactivating and rebooting, but the effect is persistent.
Again, it's only visible on light backgrounds, especially white and large ones (browser, gmail, etc). If you read this, please check yours also find some time to post a reply with the result. I would be very grateful.
Thanks!
I have the blue model but i can barely see that pattern with a screen flashlight (on full white) and i don't find it annoying at all in daily use of the phone.
You can check the screen from a new phone in a shop, to see if it looks like yours ... or you have a eagle eye
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check softpedia also
I think I can see what you're talking about on my Red Neo but only if I max the screen brightness and look really closesly (like practically inserting the Neo into my eye). 99.99% of the time I don't notice a thing.
I just followed your description and found the same with my neo, so I think it the LCD design. Not an issue to me indeed.
Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
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When I put brightness on 100%, and hold my finger on the light sensor, I don't see the screen getting darker. What does annoy me is that you can't make the brightness less than about 30%. I use widgetsoid for brightness adjustment, and the screen will only become darker than 30% if I hold my finger on top of the sensor. That sucks. I I want to sacve energy, I have to hold my hand there, while using the phone.
I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I use it a lot outside, and its sunlight legibility isn't as good as SAMOLEDs or others, but that I knew from reviews before the buy. If it wasn't for the problem in this thread, I wouldn't be so harsh on it.
LE I se new posters here. Do you noticed the problem described in the first post? Does it bother you?
It seems that there is a lot of variance between the display quality between different SGS2 units. I myself was perfectly happy with mine until the screen had to be replaced by the Samsung warranty service. The new display wasn't half as bright as the one before and the light sensor coupled with a dim display makes it even worse. I've done some comparison between different units and found that almost all of them had different quality displays - many way too dark.
I made a photo comparison between our own to SGS2s using an original device (bought in early July) as a reference as its display performance is similar to the one I used to have in mine before the replacement.
I would be happy to hear if you have noticed similar differences with you own or your friends units just to get sense of how common the issue is.
The full story below!
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I’ve been a pretty happy owner of a Samsung Galaxy SII since April. I’ve especially been pleased with the excellent display that is able to deliver true blacks while being one of the brightest screens out there.
Imagine my horror then when the display broke. It looked like something was leaking inside it. It started as a minor pink hue in the edge of the screen and in a couple days had turned into a bruise covering one fourth of the screen. All the pixels seemed to work but there was a shadow with distinct edges clouding the picture.
The issue
Luckily the warranty covered this and the service point returned my phone with a note: “Display module replaced“. Little did I know that not all Super Amoled+ screens are created equal. After a minute of using the serviced device I noticed that the screen was somehow dark – noticeably darker than before. I checked all the settings – everything was set up the way it had been before with the auto-brightness set on. It just wasn’t the screen I had come to know. We have two units of the SGS2 at home and so I compared the serviced one with the other original unit. The display in the original (reference) unit was noticeably brighter than mine. The difference was even more apparent in the dark shades – where the reference display separated several different shades of dark grays mine only displayed black. The original screen on the reference device delivered the same quality as my ‘pre-serviced’ unit. Then I turned off the auto-brightness on both devices and cranked up the brightness to the max. Again the serviced unit was visibly dim compared to the reference unit. Even the color space between the devices are different – the original quite natural and a tad warm and the serviced one distinctly cool with whites tilted towards blue.
Next I borrowed a couple of other S2′s from colleagues at the office and it turned out their devices were just as dim as my serviced one – one even dimmer! I guess this explains why some reviewers and users have judged the display on the SGS2 to be too dark – something that I always thought to be a silly complaint. It seems that the display quality between devices varies greatly. I’m currently expecting a reply from my service point as to what I should do with my ‘faulty’ screen – I’ll let you know how this pans out.
I tried taking photos with the reference unit and the serviced unit side-by-side. If you think the differences are small and to complain is silly you should know that the real life effect is that taking photos and watching videos is now a pain because every shadow is just a solid black area and when you go into a dark room the auto-brightness drops the brightness way too low. So if you own a Samsung Galaxy s2 with a dark screen – you are one of the unlucky ones.
Below are the comparison shots. If you suspect you have one of the dark screens feel free to leave a comment below.
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you joined this site specifically to link to your own one it seems?
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you joined this site specifically to link to your own one it seems?
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The forum won't let me add photos because I've just registered - only way to show them for now is to direct people to the site. Or about six posts from now I guess I will be allowed to post pictures as well.
I will add the whole text in a moment.
either way, it seems you joined specifically to talk about your site. Seems a bit trollish to me
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Happy now? Any comments on the real topic of this thread?
no not really
Yeah i'm also one of the unlucky ones with the dark screen. What makes it worse is the blue tinge when you tilt the screen slightly. Another problem, my screen keeps going bright for about 3 to 4 secs about every 45 seconds and then goes dull again. Nothing to do with auto brightness by the way because i turned it off.
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Yeah I've noticed the hue shift when tilting the display as well. Also on gray and white surfaces when the screen dims the color is not smooth but looks rather like there is some dirt under the glass. Like it's a whole different type of display than the one in our other SGS2.
I experienced the same situation. I had to replace the screen on the S2 bought back in may due to nasty scratches. The screen was otherwise really top notch with no visible defects.
The one they replaced with is much dimmer and actually has a higher contrast which leads to some color burn. There are also stripes from top to bottom when I pull down the top bar. And as if that was not enough, the picture is grainy. As you pointed out it feels as a totally different display.
I am not going to swap it since I managed to lower the contrast to an acceptable level but it's quite disappointing regardless.
This could be samsungs way of trying to slow down the screen burning?
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I still haven't bought an S2 yet but this is a bit of a concern. I'd like to hear from more people with a newer phone, do they have the same screen issues as mentioned above.
If you come from HTC to Samsung, you're certainly going to notice the difference. At least in my case, the HTC had better whites on screen and no blue tinge when tilting screen.
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I frequently flash between the XW and XX series of ROMs and notice that on some roms, the screen is darker and on others it is brighter. This is when it is being tested at 100% brightness and display setting set to normal.
If i knew for sure that flashing my phone with the correct ROM would make my screen brighter, i would do it in a flash.
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Same problem with the white sgs2 I bought few days ago. Really disappointing.
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Same problem with the white sgs2 I bought few days ago. Really disappointing.
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Would you still recommend the S2 with the screen as it is on yours, or has it spoilt a good phone?
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Would you still recommend the S2 with the screen as it is on yours, or has it spoilt a good phone?
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I would still recommend the phone, but you will have to use manual brightness instead.
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For those with the dim screen, if you are adventurous enough, you can follow the instructions here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235212&highlight=brightness to crank up the brightness of your phone so that you can use the auto brightness.
I have a new white sgs2 and this is the first Android phone I have had where the auto brightness on all roms Samsung or cm7 is totally useless. I use manual now and it looks good at around 1 3rd brightness so heavens knows how low the auto brightness is setting it!
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supermurmeli said:
Yeah I've noticed the hue shift when tilting the display as well. Also on gray and white surfaces when the screen dims the color is not smooth but looks rather like there is some dirt under the glass. Like it's a whole different type of display than the one in our other SGS2.
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I have the same problem, dirt under glass. The strange thing is, I got a replacement, the same problem. When you lower the brightness, there is small dark area, like dust. Two devices the same shop, the same problem. I start wondering it is the production quality Samsung can get
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If i knew for sure that flashing my phone with the correct ROM would make my screen brighter, i would do it in a flash.
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I have talked about this several times and even sent private messages to developers but all ignored it.
Anyway, try flashing the official kernal of KE2 and you will see the difference.
The collors and screen brightness will change without any effect what so ever to the device performance.
Screen Adjuster is another way to correct this, it is a free program in the market which will do the job for you .
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I still haven't bought an S2 yet but this is a bit of a concern. I'd like to hear from more people with a newer phone, do they have the same screen issues as mentioned above.
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HTC is no better, I had a Sensation before and it had the same problems, They use two different screen types and many complains about it in the Sensation forum.
Hi guys,
Just upgraded to the G6 from the OnePlus One. I have the H870DS. It's pretty good, I'm enjoying the phone. The camera is pretty great and it's pretty smooth altho I really did feel the difference from custom ROMs with the One to the skin of LG on the first day but now I'm pretty used to it. There are definitely some things I miss like being able to jump into the battery usage quickly from the notification bar, etc etc.
Anyway, my only real issue is with image retention. I noticed it on the very first day. You can only see it against certain dark colors tho but not against black thankfully. It's not permanent image retention, it goes away if you don't use your screen for a while. It tends to retain images that have been on the screen for a while (Especially with Always On Display) but it doesn't retain them for too long and goes away after a while.
It's a minor annoyance and it doesn't get in the way of usability. It's not glaring or anything just annoying when you can see ghosted images sometimes like when you pull down the status bar (the dark tint + my plain wallpaper makes it show easy). Just wanted to know if you guys are getting this too and if you guys have any solutions or remedies for this.
I did not get this on my G6 but was prepared for this issue since it has been a massive issue with earlier LG phones such as the V10. The problem is that it usually gets much worse over time and my V10 had developed permanent image retention that came after minutes of use after resting over the night. So it was pretty much permanent you could say.
One thing could stop it from happening totally though. Installing the app I will link below, set the filter to the darkest one and opacity to just 3% which is enough. Was not a perfect solution but the only solution.
I really hoped this would not be an issue with the G6 too. LG are basically the only manufacturer with this problem. It's much much worse than on Amoled even.
If you can I would exchange your unit. Mine did not have this at all. If yours has it out-of-box it's troublesome.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.ne.hardyinfinity.bluelightfilter.free
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I did not get this on my G6 but was prepared for this issue since it has been a massive issue with earlier LG phones such as the V10. The problem is that it usually gets much worse over time and my V10 had developed permanent image retention that came after minutes of use after resting over the night. So it was pretty much permanent you could say.
One thing could stop it from happening totally though. Installing the app I will link below, set the filter to the darkest one and opacity to just 3% which is enough. Was not a perfect solution but the only solution.
I really hoped this would not be an issue with the G6 too. LG are basically the only manufacturer with this problem. It's much much worse than on Amoled even.
If you can I would exchange your unit. Mine did not have this at all. If yours has it out-of-box it's troublesome.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.ne.hardyinfinity.bluelightfilter.free
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I actually got mine 2nd hand from a guy and didn't notice until after using it for a day and by then it was too late. The guy said he never had any issues and thinks I'm scamming him so yeah I'm stuck with this phone now. So I guess I should try to get rid of this as soon as I can before it gets worse?
I also read some comments saying it might be about heat? Like the heat from using it is what causes the image retention and since I live in the Philippines, my average phone temp is a lot higher than some of you guys' temps I'm guessing so if it really is related to temperature than I feel like that's probably why it so easily happens with mine.
I'll try out your app and see if it helps!
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Just to clarify, what did the app do for you exactly? Did it prevent the screen from creating retained images or does it just hide them so you don't see them but they're still technically there?
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Just to clarify, what did the app do for you exactly? Did it prevent the screen from creating retained images or does it just hide them so you don't see them but they're still technically there?
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Prevents the screen from creating them.
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I can't guarantee though that it also works on the G6. But it did in fact work on the V10.
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Prevents the screen from creating them.
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I can't guarantee though that it also works on the G6. But it did in fact work on the V10.
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Blue filter app is a well known solution for this problem in every LCD device, another solution would be change the display colors with root (worked on my G5).
Anyway there is no need for a Blue filter app as the G6 as it included in settings "comfort view"
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Blue filter app is a well known solution for this problem in every LCD device, another solution would be change the display colors with root (worked on my G5).
Anyway there is no need for a Blue filter app as the G6 as it included in settings "comfort view"
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Yeah but it will make the screen more yellow which the OP probably don't want. This just darkens the screen by a very small bit it's barly noticeable at 3% opacity and will not change the screen colors as the filter is black/grey. Seems to be enough to prevent the scren from displaying #FFFFFF.
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Yeah but it will make the screen more yellow which the OP probably don't want. This just darkens the screen by a very small bit it's barly noticeable at 3% opacity and will not change the screen colors as the filter is black/grey. Seems to be enough to prevent the scren from displaying #FFFFFF.
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So it's just #FFFFFF that gets retained? Other colors like slightly different shades of white do not?
Related question: In your experience, does LG Warranty cover this issue say 5, 6, 7 or even 11 months after purchase? And what do they do? Do they replace the screen? Or is this not covered?
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Related question: In your experience, does LG Warranty cover this issue say 5, 6, 7 or even 11 months after purchase? And what do they do? Do they replace the screen? Or is this not covered?
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They cover the issue only if it's really bad (personal experience with G5) until 12 months, after is the seller that have to give you warranty services if you are in Europe
Wait. I didn't think image retention was even a thing on LCDs. I thought that was strictly an AMOLED issue. Is this specific to LG phones?
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Wait. I didn't think image retention was even a thing on LCDs. I thought that was strictly an AMOLED issue. Is this specific to LG phones?
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Imagre retention happens on LCDs, Burn-In on OLED displays, these are two differents things, the first one is due to a bad assembly (like happened to G5) and/or a bad display color managment, it's fixable by editing colors or using a blue light filter, and anyway it will always disappear if the display stays off for some minute (it depends on how bad the retention is), the second one is specific of ALL OLED displays, this means that it could happen on every device with an oled display and a static image on it, also this is permanent.
Lg G6 Image Retention
Does the lg g6 have really bad image retention after 2 to one year of use or it a problem for the past lg phones
JSantos17 said:
Does the lg g6 have really bad image retention after 2 to one year of use or it a problem for the past lg phones
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LG G6 isn't even one year old yet.
JSantos17 said:
Does the lg g6 have really bad image retention after 2 to one year of use or it a problem for the past lg phones
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I have it since april, it's bad only if you use an app with static images for hours (for me it was fate go and telegram), but it's visible only with grey background at 80% brightness and disappears in some hours.
Really, coming from a G5, I can say that the problem here is far from being a real problem.
My device has some pretty bad image retention near the nav bar where the keyboard would be after having owned it for ~5 months. Theres an off-center patch of the screen that is brighter than the rest.
So i swapped my first device kinda wish i hadent as the screen was great.
New device has green tint anything below 10% (this i can just about live with as i just raise brightness). However i recently noticed in direct sunlight yesterday that i can barely see screen and it tints purple (yes i have adaptive brightness on)
Now something really strange in bright sunlight when a shadow casts across a white screen , the shadow against screen is green has anyone else noticed this ......?
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hard to capture properly as spare phone is an old iphone but the green shadow is from my hand which can be observed above , also notice how the white tints to purple.
tonnytech said:
So i swapped my first device kinda wish i hadent as the screen was great.
New device has green tint anything below 10% (this i can just about live with as i just raise brightness). However i recently noticed in direct sunlight yesterday that i can barely see screen and it tints purple (yes i have adaptive brightness on)
Now something really strange in bright sunlight when a shadow casts across a white screen , the shadow against screen is green has anyone else noticed this ......?
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hard to capture properly as spare phone is an old iphone but the green shadow is from my hand which can be observed above , also notice how the white tints to purple.
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Well the green tint below 10% i don't experience with my phone.
The other notion/complaint, is just natural properties of an OLED panel, all my previous phones had the purple in sunlight tint.
probably the brighter sunlight reflecting in one of the physical layers of the panel. Nothing you can get rid off unless you want LCD.
backfromhome said:
Well the green tint below 10% i don't experience with my phone.
The other notion/complaint, is just natural properties of an OLED panel, all my previous phones had the purple in sunlight tint.
probably the brighter sunlight reflecting in one of the physical layers of the panel. Nothing you can get rid off unless you want LCD.
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i have a new phone incoming tomorrow , these are the pictures of green tint (purple sunlight) sounds like something will have to compromise on .. green tint i cant though.
tonnytech said:
i have a new phone incoming tomorrow , these are the pictures of green tint (purple sunlight) sounds like something will have to compromise on .. green tint i cant though.
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Look, the picture you took in sunlight is normal behavior and physics.
The low light low brightness pictures are indeed not normal, indeed should be exchanged for another device!
tonnytech said:
i have a new phone incoming tomorrow , these are the pictures of green tint (purple sunlight) sounds like something will have to compromise on .. green tint i cant though.
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also, on the first photo I can see black bar near punch hole
exactly the same as on mine.. will probably send it back
Just got new phone July batch , first impressions are a lot less green tint ..... thank god June panel was a joke July panel I think its still there just a lot less this time ... will see later this evening and post picture back.
black bar across top i can see but not to bothered about this in all honesty.
Colours have to admit whites are cleaner as a result but rest look to be calibrated identical to last panel.
I think my first panel dated May was the best colours just seemed to wow instantly , everyone who saw phone commented on display in a positive manner.
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Here, this is how mine looks like at min brightness: green tint and horizontal bar
Sending it back
Sent from my OPPO Find X2 Pro using XDA Labs
Seems to be some QC issues, I'd suggest getting a replacement, I can't see any of these issues on my device personally
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
Seems to be some QC issues, I'd suggest getting a replacement, I can't see any of these issues on my device personally
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Might that be because your device is prior to May on build?
I think it’s pointless replacing now I’ve had three models and it seems inherent now from my own experiences.
Do you use dark mode?
Sorry for the questions just trying to get some feedback
I’m only speculating but my latest device also has it my only device which didn’t have it was built in May , I’m wondering if the early batches had good panels for reviews etc and they cheaped out after that to bring production costs down (speculation as I say) but seen this before with other companies.
One thing I’ve noticed on my latest device is it goes a lot brighter than my previous June model. I’m thinking if I want to keep this device, I’m going to have use light mode which is a shame, if we had root we could just black out all the grey parts like status bar notifications etc and mask issue.
tonnytech said:
Might that be because your device is prior to May on build?
I think it’s pointless replacing now I’ve had three models and it seems inherent now from my own experiences.
Do you use dark mode?
Sorry for the questions just trying to get some feedback
I’m only speculating but my latest device also has it my only device which didn’t have it was built in May , I’m wondering if the early batches had good panels for reviews etc and they cheaped out after that to bring production costs down (speculation as I say) but seen this before with other companies.
One thing I’ve noticed on my latest device is it goes a lot brighter than my previous June model. I’m thinking if I want to keep this device, I’m going to have use light mode which is a shame, if we had root we could just black out all the grey parts like status bar notifications etc and mask issue.
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not sure about your theory abt early batches; my device's QC date is April 22 and yet I have display issues
seems this type of issues are pretty common with this panel which is used by both Oppo and OnePlus
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
Seems to be some QC issues, I'd suggest getting a replacement, I can't see any of these issues on my device personally
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tobias14 said:
not sure about your theory abt early batches; my device's QC date is April 22 and yet I have display issues
seems this type of issues are pretty common with this panel which is used by both Oppo and OnePlus
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well that shoots that theory down
I dont think there`s much point swapping its like looking for a unicorn either return and try a device without this samsung panel or find a way to live with it sadly :/
tonnytech said:
well that shoots that theory down
I dont think there`s much point swapping its like looking for a unicorn either return and try a device without this samsung panel or find a way to live with it sadly :/
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yep, seems so.. a lottery
the thing is that I can see this issue only at very low brightness, somewhere below ~15%
and in everyday use the display is perfect (I anyway always use light theme)
but then again it bothers me knowing it is there
on the fence now:
send the Oppo back (already have return label) and try luck again with OP8 Pro (order placed, should be dispatched tomorrow; I sent back my first OP 8 for a refund due to same display issues)
or just live with it, keep Oppo and cancel OP 8 order...
tobias14 said:
yep, seems so.. a lottery
the thing is that I can see this issue only at very low brightness, somewhere below ~15%
and in everyday use the display is perfect (I anyway always use light theme)
but then again it bothers me knowing it is there
on the fence now:
send the Oppo back (already have return label) and try luck again with OP8 Pro (order placed, should be dispatched tomorrow; I sent back my first OP 8 for a refund due to same display issues)
or just live with it, keep Oppo and cancel OP 8 order...
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Hold onto oppo await OnePlus if it's green then decide on which phone to keep or return both ... Less swaps
Good luck ?
How do you see your QC date?
belloni said:
How do you see your QC date?
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It is on the box
Sent from my Find X2 Pro using XDA Labs
tobias14 said:
It is on the box
Sent from my Find X2 Pro using XDA Labs
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You had any luck on either of your devices
Quite happy with my device now having given up on dark mode lol
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tonnytech said:
You had any luck on either of your devices
Quite happy with my device now having given up on dark mode lol
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I cancelled OP8 order that day as I thought that I can live with Oppo's screen. But I can't, so I sent it back today.
Ordered OP8 pro again, it is arriving tomorrow. Will update once received, fingers crossed.
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tonnytech said:
You had any luck on either of your devices
Quite happy with my device now having given up on dark mode lol
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so, got my 2nd OP8 pro y'day and the black bar is there and green tint at low brightness as well. QC date is May 28th, the same was for my first OP8 pro
this is my 3rd device with same panel and same issues (2x OP8 pro, 1x Find X2 pro)