http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_tab_s8-6681.php
http://www.mobilegeeks.com/lenovo-tab-s8-full-review-video/
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/lenovo/s-series/s8/
Do you guys think this device will be supported by anyone on XDA?
There isn't a trace of anything currently, which appears to be the case for anything by Lenovo unfortunately, which is a shame as this appears to be a very capable device.
I'd love to replace my N7 (2013) with one but the lack of support and being forced to use Lenovo's (most likely crap) software is a deal-breaker.
It currently costs just over £100 in the UK because of a deal with Curry's and a cashback scheme from Lenovo themselves.
Nice little tablet
I bought one a couple of weeks ago to replace my Nexus 7 (2012) that had a cracked screen. I've been really happy with it so far. Lenovo's software isn't that bad, and you can fix most of the issues (no app drawer?) by installing something like Nova or Apex launcher. I would like root access so that I can use Titanium Backup and get rid of some bloatware, but I have not been disappointed in the tablets performance at all.
Let's hope someone smarter than me finds an exploit for this tablet soon.
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I bought one a couple of weeks ago to replace my Nexus 7 (2012) that had a cracked screen. I've been really happy with it so far. Lenovo's software isn't that bad, and you can fix most of the issues (no app drawer?) by installing something like Nova or Apex launcher. I would like root access so that I can use Titanium Backup and get rid of some bloatware, but I have not been disappointed in the tablets performance at all.
Let's hope someone smarter than me finds an exploit for this tablet soon.
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Yea it would be nice but that's my concern.
All the "smart" people are using Nexus 7s or Galaxy Tabs and have no interest in this.
I've decided against it for now! Glad you're enjoying yours though.
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I hope this gets support!
Spec wise it's better than the nexus 7. The Intel atom 3745 is bang in the middle performance wise compared to the snapdragon 600 and 800. Got mine for 107 from p.c world, what a bargain!!!
Hope the popularity picks up and we see it get root access. Custom roms would be a huge bonus, but I won't be holding my breath!
Forum needed
I too would love to see a sub-forum for this device. I've bought one and am seriously impressed with it for the price. Only one gripe is that the screen flashes once every so often. I hope it's software related rather than hardware.
Interesting, mine does the screen flashing too. It seems some apps cause it more than others.
I would love to see a forum for this device to start getting users together.
i would like to get root on this aswell, its an awesome tablet for the price but root would make it so much better
ThisDude78 said:
I bought one a couple of weeks ago to replace my Nexus 7 (2012) that had a cracked screen. I've been really happy with it so far. Lenovo's software isn't that bad, and you can fix most of the issues (no app drawer?) by installing something like Nova or Apex launcher. I would like root access so that I can use Titanium Backup and get rid of some bloatware, but I have not been disappointed in the tablets performance at all.
Let's hope someone smarter than me finds an exploit for this tablet soon.
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Is that a little like walking backwards? Get the device first, then hope for root and/or developer support.
Generally, the advice is check for root and/or developer support first, then buy the device. Apart from ensuring you don't end up with a dead end device, it also ensures that your business goes to reward manufacurers that produce open and flexible devices that really do adapt to their customer's needs and usage rather than forcing customers into a strait jacket.
I would also like to gain root access for this device. If anyone knows of a way to root I'd be extremely thankful!
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Is that a little like walking backwards? Get the device first, then hope for root and/or developer support.
Generally, the advice is check for root and/or developer support first, then buy the device. Apart from ensuring you don't end up with a dead end device, it also ensures that your business goes to reward manufacurers that produce open and flexible devices that really do adapt to their customer's needs and usage rather than forcing customers into a strait jacket.
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I understand the point you are trying to make, but it doesn't apply to my decision to buy this tablet. It would be nice to have a root solution for the reasons I mentioned, but I knew one was unavailable when I purchased it. If we get root, great, I'll use Titanium Backup and get rid of some apps I don't plan on using. If we don't get root, it's still a great tablet with a fantastic screen, decent speakers, and solid performance for under $200. Since I'm unlikely to keep any device as my primary device for more than around 18 months (I get bored and want something shinier!), I'm not super concerned about whether or not it's considered a "dead end device" either.
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I understand the point you are trying to make, but it doesn't apply to my decision to buy this tablet. It would be nice to have a root solution for the reasons I mentioned, but I knew one was unavailable when I purchased it. If we get root, great, I'll use Titanium Backup and get rid of some apps I don't plan on using. If we don't get root, it's still a great tablet with a fantastic screen, decent speakers, and solid performance for under $200. Since I'm unlikely to keep any device as my primary device for more than around 18 months (I get bored and want something shinier!), I'm not super concerned about whether or not it's considered a "dead end device" either.
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It's cool that you were informed before you bought it. LG G Pad 8.3 offers similar benefits but is more open.
On these devices that can monitor ever more of what one does and report back to who-knows-where without one's knowledge or permission, one is motivated to demand more and more control that isn't possible if the devices are locked down. I hope Lenovo's lack of openness doesn't rub off on Motorola now they own it.
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For what it's worth, I found a working root method at the Russian Lenovo forums. I can't post a link because I haven't made enough other posts yet, but it's pretty easy to find.
You will need to register to download the files.
I can confirm it worked on my s8-50f. There also appears to be a TWRP recovery posted, but I haven't tried that yet.
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For what it's worth, I found a working root method at the Russian Lenovo forums. I can't post a link because I haven't made enough other posts yet, but it's pretty easy to find.
You will need to register to download the files.
I can confirm it worked on my s8-50f. There also appears to be a TWRP recovery posted, but I haven't tried that yet.
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Did you mean this forum?
A little OT. I apologize but...
The newly released Nokia N1 seems a good, comparable device for similar outlay. Intel Atom too. Unlocked bootloader. Wifi-only though.
Sadly no word on kernel sources, 3rd party developer friendliness etc
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Did you mean *removed* this forum[/URL]?
A little OT. I apologize but...
The newly released Nokia N1 seems a good, comparable device for similar outlay. Intel Atom too. Unlocked bootloader. Wifi-only though.
Sadly no word on kernel sources, 3rd party developer friendliness etc
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Yeah, that's the right forum.
I looked at the N1, and had it been available when my Nexus 7 broke, it would have been on my short list. My only real issue is the aspect ratio. It's unclear at this time how well apps are going to play on th 4:3 screen. I've read that a lot of stuff doesn't really look great on the Nexus 9. That could turn out to be a totally groundless concern though, we'll see.
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Yeah, that's the right forum.
I looked at the N1, and had it been available when my Nexus 7 broke, it would have been on my short list. My only real issue is the aspect ratio. It's unclear at this time how well apps are going to play on th 4:3 screen. I've read that a lot of stuff doesn't really look great on the Nexus 9. That could turn out to be a totally groundless concern though, we'll see.
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I'd bet it would be on a lot of shortlists. Nokia dropped the ball by not releasing this in time for Xmas. Would have ended up in a few stockings that may now get an Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact or Nexus 7/9 or LG G Pad 8.3 or iPad Mini...
Just trying to determine if CM11 (or other AOSP roms) can be ported to it. That would make it an awesome [almost budget] choice.
ThisDude78 said:
I bought one a couple of weeks ago to replace my Nexus 7 (2012) that had a cracked screen. I've been really happy with it so far. Lenovo's software isn't that bad, and you can fix most of the issues (no app drawer?) by installing something like Nova or Apex launcher. I would like root access so that I can use Titanium Backup and get rid of some bloatware, but I have not been disappointed in the tablets performance at all.
Let's hope someone smarter than me finds an exploit for this tablet soon.
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hello
Can you make calls through it? Supposedly there is an LTE version but not sure if that is just for data access or actually has cellular capability for calling. Thanks.
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hello
Can you make calls through it? Supposedly there is an LTE version but not sure if that is just for data access or actually has cellular capability for calling. Thanks.
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There is an LTE version (S8-50CL I think?), but mine is wifi only. I don't know if the LTE variant can make calls. To be honest, I'm not sure I've seen the LTE version available for purchase anywhere.
ThisDude78 said:
There is an LTE version (S8-50CL I think?), but mine is wifi only. I don't know if the LTE variant can make calls. To be honest, I'm not sure I've seen the LTE version available for purchase anywhere.
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thanks...i saw this one (have heard of this site before..not bad from what I have heard) (though description at bottom is for an older design, info at top is for the new design)
http://www.merimobiles.com/lenovo-tab-s8-50-4g-lte-8inches-2gb-ram-16gb-ram-tab_p/meri10444.htm
yes Lenovo site at
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/lenovo/s-series/s8/#tab-features
says this
"Optional LTE ConnectivityThe TAB S8 supports high-speed LTE (4G) data connectivity - enabling you to browse websites, stream movies & music, and do so much more at blazingly fast speeds. In certain regions, additional voice support is available on select models."
wonder what those select models are...
Question..how is the display quality? viewing angles, color, brightness and not smudgy I hope...maybe reflective guessing. any info appreciated
thx
mac231us said:
thanks...i saw this one (have heard of this site before..not bad from what I have heard) (though description at bottom is for an older design, info at top is for the new design)
http://www.merimobiles.com/lenovo-tab-s8-50-4g-lte-8inches-2gb-ram-16gb-ram-tab_p/meri10444.htm
yes Lenovo site at
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/lenovo/s-series/s8/#tab-features
says this
"Optional LTE ConnectivityThe TAB S8 supports high-speed LTE (4G) data connectivity - enabling you to browse websites, stream movies & music, and do so much more at blazingly fast speeds. In certain regions, additional voice support is available on select models."
wonder what those select models are...
Question..how is the display quality? viewing angles, color, brightness and not smudgy I hope...maybe reflective guessing. any info appreciated
thx
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The display is the best part of this tablet, honestly. It's bright, the colors look great (to me at least), and the viewing angles are fantastic. It doesn't collect any more smudges than the display on my G2.
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ThisDude78 said:
For what it's worth, I found a working root method at the Russian Lenovo forums. I can't post a link because I haven't made enough other posts yet, but it's pretty easy to find.
You will need to register to download the files.
I can confirm it worked on my s8-50f. There also appears to be a TWRP recovery posted, but I haven't tried that yet.
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Could you upload the files mate
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I had HTC Desire for nearly 3 years, and it is a great phone, but I think it is time to upgrade, because:
- it is annoyingly slow with my regular set of programs installed, even on fastest available roms
- it doesn't have kernel 3.0, and because of that JB roms have shortcomings
- a little bit too small screen for GPS navigation
- really crappy camera
- somewhat short battery life
Some time ago I had a chance to look at Galaxy S2 in person and it looked like a perfect phone (at least for 2 minutes I had it in my hands).
Somewhat bigger screen, more internal storage, kernel 3.0.
I use custom roms, so big development community is important for me. I have been spoiled by Desire as it (still) has a large one.
Galaxy S2 would cost me around 170-200 euro to get it.
Then there is S3, which looks like a better phone alltogether, even if more expensive (~350 euro).
But the doubts about that one after reading user opinions are:
- quite dark screen, worse than One X
- bad build quality
- flimsy home button
- external speaker on pair with Desire
I would welcome SGS3 owners views on the above.
My general requirements (compared to HTC Desire):
- larger screen (not necessarily much larger)
- solid build quality
- large development community
- noticeably faster CPU than Desire (Dual+ core would come in handy)
- microUSB
- good/very good camera
- good battery life
- have a good and loud external speakers for listening to podcasts
- would be nice if it had FM transmitter (not receiver) but it is not necessary
- it must by BLACK or therebout
the s3 fits each one of those requirements.....
Hi there. I was an owner of HTC Desire for 2 years. I loved that device and still have it in my drawer. I recently bought a Galaxy S3 to upadgrade my old DS. The transfer from Desire to Desire S was something logical to me back then. Almost the same device but newer software. I was searching for a new phone and I thought that one X was the only road for me. I had a chance to compare one X with SGS3 side by side. The screen on one X has more natural colors for me and I think the sound quality is better. Honesty I picked the SGS 3 cause of the community that has here in xda the removal battery the sd card slot and I think the camera quality is better. Im still new here and haven't managed to explore the hole forum but I found a lot of things and I'm amazed by the community
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There are better options market than s3 at this point of time
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There are better options market than s3 at this point of time
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Thanks for this informative post. Could you share those better options?
I am not going to pay more than 350 euro for it, so unless those better options are the same price or cheaper than SGS3, mentioning them is pointless.
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Thanks for this informative post. Could you share those better options?
I am not going to pay more than 350 euro for it, so unless those better options are the same price or cheaper than SGS3, mentioning them is pointless.
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Get the S4 i9505. Better dev support due to no exynos. Get 2nd hand
Got to be honest, if i was in your shoes, i wouldn't. Not for 350€. Would be a different thing if you had an awesome deal at hand, but if you're just getting them from a regular store, for the full price, no.
I've seen you don't require neither external sd nor an removable battery so i'd easily go with a nexus 4 if i could. Around same price point, best bang for the buck specs wise. Also, you get updates directly from google instead of waiting forever for samsung
If you're not into the nexus 4 (which isn't easy to come by for every country) you may want to take a look at the oppo find 5. Seems a fantastic phone, has even better specs than the nexus and therefore a bit more expensive. Easy to get in europe and they even throw in a few extras like NFC tags and a (flip?) cover for your phone. Also the developer openly encourages custom roms so there shouldn't be a problem having updates.
Moar ram (this is REALLY important on the S3 since 1Gb is not nearly enough for a samsung rom), no-bul**** touchwiz with a lightfast pure aosp rom (with the nexus) or anything close with the oppo and no exynos with closed sources, making custom roms not being able to be all they can. You won't get some somewhat useless bells and whistles (smart stay, camera effects, multiwindow, etc) but that can almost all be reinstated with 3rd party apps if needed. Samsung has a bad history of kind of neglecting their phones who're not flagships anymore - by this i mean they say they will update but only when convenient to them and that means waiting forever with no ETA at all. Not to mention you may get a unit with the screwed up chip which is apparently not in danger of suddently dying anymore but it's fix has been reported causing severe lag. It's not a bad phone at all, it's just there are better alternatives out there.
The S2 though is still a fantastic phone and it's probably the cheaper you'll get. It's just it's old and most likely not supported (or about to be, not sure) by samsung by now.
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i'd easily go with a nexus 4 if i could. Around same price point, best bang for the buck specs wise.
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This is a really good point.
I think the price points are still a little high
You should expect after September 5 or so, and then check prices for:
- i9300 unlocked new and second-hand; IMHO the best thing about it is the form factor + huge availability of ROMs; major downside = only 1 GB RAM
- i9305 unlocked new and second-hand; it fixes the problem with just 1 GB and also has LTE, but much less development and fewer ROMs to choose
- N7100 (note 2) unlocked new and second-hand; IMHO a good choice that fixes most problems with i9300 and i9305, BUT creates a new one - size; that one is a deal killer for me
- also look at the prices for note 3 (will be launchd around September 4-5) and i9505 (might drop a little, eventually the i9506 might become available).
Thanks guys.
- I never used stock rom on any android phone I had. I root and install custom rom instantly, so I am no bothered by Sense or Touchwiz or whatever bloat there is in stock.
- Nexus 4 has one major flaw - only 16gb, and not expandable. In my Deisre, I have a 16gb card and btween GPS maps, podcasts and backups, I am almost constantly out of space. Plus, it has lesser camera, and screen.
- SGS3 would be in silicon cover anyway, so I don't care much about the build quality EXCEPT for the front panel/home button.
impactor said:
Thanks guys.
- I never used stock rom on any android phone I had. I root and install custom rom instantly, so I am no bothered by Sense or Touchwiz or whatever bloat there is in stock.
- Nexus 4 has one major flaw - only 16gb, and not expandable. In my Deisre, I have a 16gb card and btween GPS maps, podcasts and backups, I am almost constantly out of space. Plus, it has lesser camera, and screen.
- SGS3 would be in silicon cover anyway, so I don't care much about the build quality EXCEPT for the front panel/home button.
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SGS3's problem is that AOSP devs cannot make ROMs as quickly (or make the "fully functional" as quickly) due to having an Exynos CPU. I personally would look for an S4 i9505 2nd hand if I wanted a good phone with AOSP support. It has no Exynos.
S4 is way to expensive for me.
How about HTC One X?
impactor said:
Thanks for this informative post. Could you share those better options?
I am not going to pay more than 350 euro for it, so unless those better options are the same price or cheaper than SGS3, mentioning them is pointless.
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What would be pointless is buying a exynos device paying 350 euro.. N4 / oppo find 5 great devices / or second hand i9505 / one x
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impactor said:
S4 is way to expensive for me.
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In the UK I found a 2nd hand i9505 for £330, 384 Euros on buy it now (ebay).
Wait a month or two, it will be lower. Worth considering. Or look for an auction instead. I'm confident it can be done.
Oh you didn't mention the need for more than 16gb. That actually weights in a lot. The oppo finder 5 should be a good candidate then, I believe it's the best price you can get for a phone with those specs that already brings 32gb (if bought new)
If you understand and don't mind the exynos, the 16gb+sdcard lte s3 is also an option (2gb ram), not sure about prices though.
Also, for what's worth, I've compared the camera of my s3 with the n4. Didn't think it was all that different apart from effects I don't really use. Phones are cool for the casual shot (and actually take very decent ones) but if it's serious quality I'm after, nothing beats a good, dedicated camera.
Edit: oops didn't realise you couldn't spend more than 350. I still wouldn't get the s3 and would wait out for the prices to get lower. Still, if you must change your phone now, for that price point, with your requirements is probably the best bet.
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In the UK I found a 2nd hand i9505 for £330, 384 Euros on buy it now (ebay).
Wait a month or two, it will be lower. Worth considering. Or look for an auction instead. I'm confident it can be done.
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Main issue I find with ebay uk sellers, they won't send to any other country, even if its their neighbor Portugal few miles below
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Main issue I find with ebay uk sellers, they won't send to any other country, even if its their neighbor Portugal few miles below
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I wasnt suggesting buying from Ebay UK. It's just an example.
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SGS3's problem is that AOSP devs cannot make ROMs as quickly (or make the "fully functional" as quickly) due to having an Exynos CPU. I personally would look for an S4 i9505 2nd hand if I wanted a good phone with AOSP support. It has no Exynos.
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I am not sure what is the problem with S3 cpu. S3 seems to have great support community, a lot of roms, etc. I do not really care if I have the newest subversion of Android available on my phone 5 days after the newest Android was released.
I just want it to work, and I couldn't care less if I have to wait a month, or 3 months for Android 4.3, if I have fully workin 4.2.2, with great battery life, photograps, excellent GPS, screen, and pretty great for a mobile audio quality (headphones, and speakerphone).
Considering that, would you still disadvice me an S3? I looked at prices of S4 and even 380 euro is a bit of a stretch, considering I wanted to spend 200 euro initially, and 300 for S3 is already a significant budget enlargement.
And what about HTC One X? Would that be better than S3?
Exynos documentation lacking. No sources. Poor camera. All devs complain including cyanogen. Read their threads, posts and blogs. Research. Or buy blindly. You choose
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Exynos documentation lacking. No sources. Poor camera. All devs complain including cyanogen. Read their threads, posts and blogs. Research. Or buy blindly. You choose
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Here are results of my research:
1. Stable CM10.2 available on S3
2. S3 camera is one of the best among mobile phones
3. Considerable amount of roms available for S3.
I just don't see the point you are making. I do not want to get S3 blindly, but neither do I want to blindly reject it.
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Here are results of my research:
1. Stable CM10.2 available on S3
2. S3 camera is one of the best among mobile phones
3. Considerable amount of roms available for S3.
I just don't see the point you are making. I do not want to get S3 blindly, but neither do I want to blindly reject it.
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1. Cyanogen refused to release 10.1 as "stable" release. Remains nightly build forever due to lack of exynos sources and documentation. Same with 10.2
2. Touchwiz rom camera great. Since samsung didn't release camera HAL, aosp camera not very good.
3. Loads of aosp roms. None meet their own potential due to the issues mentioned above.
4. Battery life poor on aosp roms.
S3 is great of you're happy with touchwiz. Bloated and slow but good pics and great battery life. But if you know you'll be using aosp roms, its a poor choice - and im sure any aosp dev would agree with that. Yes there's lots of choice. I even use aosp all the time but it cannot exploit the devices potential.
Also a lot of devs are starting to move on now. Kernel development for aosp is down to about 3 or 4 good ones.
Im trying to be Frank and save you buying a dying devices thinking it will be as good as you think it is. I wish I had known about the exynos issue before buying. Would I have held out and bought something else? Probably not. It was the only device that met my requirement 14 months ago. That said, would I recommend it now? No.
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So i totally support google and love all of their products and gadgets. Ive owned the Original Nexus One all the way to the N4 and im eagerly waiting for this N5 now. Also owning the chromecast which i love for youtube streaming from my phone when laying on the couch. Also recently ordering a Chromebook to have laying around for easier and quicker web browsing and chromecasting im now about to grab a nexus tablet. I was leaning more towards the Nexus 7 for the cheaper price tag but figured i have 4.7in phone and soon to have the nexus 5s 5inch screen. So going to a 7inch over a 10 inch seemed silly.
After browsing the forums im seeing alot of bad things about the N10 having defects and problems, etc. I believe the new N10 is about to be released as well which should lower the price on the original which also makes me want to grab it. Anyone have any advice? Would buying the Nexus 10 be a decision id regret? I would firstly definately root it and flash a third party ROM if that makes any difference.
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So i totally support google and love all of their products and gadgets. Ive owned the Original Nexus One all the way to the N4 and im eagerly waiting for this N5 now. Also owning the chromecast which i love for youtube streaming from my phone when laying on the couch. Also recently ordering a Chromebook to have laying around for easier and quicker web browsing and chromecasting im now about to grab a nexus tablet. I was leaning more towards the Nexus 7 for the cheaper price tag but figured i have 4.7in phone and soon to have the nexus 5s 5inch screen. So going to a 7inch over a 10 inch seemed silly.
After browsing the forums im seeing alot of bad things about the N10 having defects and problems, etc. I believe the new N10 is about to be released as well which should lower the price on the original which also makes me want to grab it. Anyone have any advice? Would buying the Nexus 10 be a decision id regret? I would firstly definately root it and flash a third party ROM if that makes any difference.
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Yeah maybe if you root it. I had it for about a year and recently sold mine. Never needed to root it for my purposes, and after the 4.3 update it seemed pretty smooth. Only problems I had with it were random restarts (could be software/certain apps related) and it sometimes churned quite a bit on graphically intense web pages. I think there's just not quite enough power under the hood for that screen resolution. It got pretty hot and stuttered on intense games after playing for about an hour. I am waiting for the next one, hopefully it will have a little more "umph." Other than that, I loved it, and am now missing it as I wait for Google to get around to finally releasing the next one.
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Yeah maybe if you root it. I had it for about a year and recently sold mine. Never needed to root it for my purposes, and after the 4.3 update it seemed pretty smooth. Only problems I had with it were random restarts (could be software/certain apps related) and it sometimes churned quite a bit on graphically intense web pages. I think there's just not quite enough power under the hood for that screen resolution. It got pretty hot and stuttered on intense games after playing for about an hour. I am waiting for the next one, hopefully it will have a little more "umph." Other than that, I loved it, and am now missing it as I wait for Google to get around to finally releasing the next one.
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This is exactly the reasoning im hesitant to sprout for it right now. Ive read alot of problems with it. I really only require a snappy device that has alot of support for third party fully features ROMS. The only thing i dont like about the new Nexus 10 is the fact its being made by Asus and ive heard alot of terrible things about their tablets and support.
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This is exactly the reasoning im hesitant to sprout for it right now. Ive read alot of problems with it. I really only require a snappy device that has alot of support for third party fully features ROMS. The only thing i dont like about the new Nexus 10 is the fact its being made by Asus and ive heard alot of terrible things about their tablets and support.
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The original nexus 10 is made by Samsung, not Asus. Asus is purported to be the manufacturer of the new one. The build quality on the original is decent. The back is kind of wonkey, but it feels solid over-all. I'm certain there's loads of support for ROMs. It is a very popular tablet. I doubt they will give a lot more speed though. It's not like there was an abundance of bloatware on the original. When I rooted my Galaxy S3, I saw massive gains in speed, but that was bloat heaven. I just don't see that being the case for this tablet. Maybe I'm wrong, don't know, haven't researched it.
If you don't like Asus, then don't wait around for the next one though. All signs and rumors say they are the manufacturer. Remember though, this is Google overseeing the manufacturer, so the build quality may end up surprising you. We'll just have to wait and see.
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This is exactly the reasoning im hesitant to sprout for it right now. Ive read alot of problems with it. I really only require a snappy device that has alot of support for third party fully features ROMS. The only thing i dont like about the new Nexus 10 is the fact its being made by Asus and ive heard alot of terrible things about their tablets and support.
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Part of the problem with this and any device, outside the initial release time, you rarely see individuals post about how much they like the device.
That said, I like my N10. And even with the rumored release of a new 2nd gen, I'd purchase the N10 again at the recent discounted pricing.
Samsung had improved the build quality as time went by, so you see a lot less posting about light bleed issues. The memory leak from the Mali GPU has been solved with the 4.3 release.
Mine also doesn't flex on the back, so it doesn't have the cheap feel that has been reported in the past.
If you don't require cutting edge, get the Samsung Google Nexus 10.
That said, the 2nd generation is almost any time now, I think it's worth waiting to see what it's like and the reviews from users in the forums.
I'm still having memory issues with mine, even after 4.3. (Reboots once a week, and if I try to load it like I did my original Prime it reboots more often) so I'm waiting for the 2013 Nexus to see if it's good enough to replace my current Nexus 10.
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I agree with the one of the previous posters in that most of the threads that you will see are regarding help and problems. If everything is working well, people generally tend not to make posts.
I love my N10. I even got it refurbished from Walmart and have no problems with it at all. I have rooted and installed custom ROMs as well. I love the feel, the speed and resolution. I use it daily. Since I got it, I rarely use my laptop anymore.
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So i totally support google and love all of their products and gadgets. Ive owned the Original Nexus One all the way to the N4 and im eagerly waiting for this N5 now. Also owning the chromecast which i love for youtube streaming from my phone when laying on the couch. Also recently ordering a Chromebook to have laying around for easier and quicker web browsing and chromecasting im now about to grab a nexus tablet. I was leaning more towards the Nexus 7 for the cheaper price tag but figured i have 4.7in phone and soon to have the nexus 5s 5inch screen. So going to a 7inch over a 10 inch seemed silly.
After browsing the forums im seeing alot of bad things about the N10 having defects and problems, etc. I believe the new N10 is about to be released as well which should lower the price on the original which also makes me want to grab it. Anyone have any advice? Would buying the Nexus 10 be a decision id regret? I would firstly definately root it and flash a third party ROM if that makes any difference.
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I don't think you'd regret it. Its a great tablet though a lot of the models have light bleed so its something to watch out for and make sure it isn't too bad on yours. Usually it isn't very noticeable unless u look for it though
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You wont be disappointed. Nexus 10 is my first tablet, tho I have tried/used many. The screen is amazing, and the tablet is very responsive. Never had any problems with it. The day I got it, I unlocked it, rooted it, and installed CyanogenMod. Currently using a nightly build of CM 10.2 (4.3). The build quality isnt that bad either. The speakers are huge compared to what other tablets have, so you can expect good sound quality too.
My Nexus 10 has been great from day one. Now on 4.3 and have never had a problem.
No problems or complains with mine. The screen is excellent especially for reading which is a reason I bought it. I don't calibrate for color or look for light bleed, its a good tablet for the money and just as good if not better than the ipad4. I guess if I could suggest one improvement, it needs extended battery life.
That said, we're pretty sure the new Nexus 10 will be released in a week or two, I'd wait. The current model will be discounted if you see nothing you'd like with the new one.
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I sent the Pixel C back. It died in 2 days. I was looking at the Sony Z4 tab along with the google one. Now I am looking back at it. Is that Sony Z4 tablet still a fantastic tablet? Issues? Just looking for overall comments before I look to find one to buy..I dont see them for sale much right now so I find it might be hard to get one anyway. But thought I would ask before I started looking..
Well I was in the same boat as you. I recently purchased the Nexus 9 lte tablet but wasn't happy with it due to the poor construction and some light bleed issues in the screen so I decided to look for this Z4 in Amazon and got it for $589.00 Free shipping and no Tax. Man best choice I've ever made! Really well build table, super thin, great speakers and water proof. Doesn't have many development support or Roms support but you can root it, install Xposed, debloat it and live with it.....oh and great battery life. Compatible with T-mobile and At&t LTE even it says 4G.
Yes is still a great option almost a year after of his released.
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My topic My Z4 Tablet Pros and Cons gives some of my and other's thoughts that are still relevant for the most part.
Also, the tablet flies on Marshmallow. I'm still super happy with my choice.
Does anyone think they might come out with a replacement for it anytime soon?
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Well I was in the same boat as you. I recently purchased the Nexus 9 lte tablet but wasn't happy with it due to the poor construction and some light bleed issues in the screen so I decided to look for this Z4 in Amazon and got it for $589.00 Free shipping and no Tax. Man best choice I've ever made! Really well build table, super thin, great speakers and water proof. Doesn't have many development support or Roms support but you can root it, install Xposed, debloat it and live with it.....oh and great battery life. Compatible with T-mobile and At&t LTE even it says 4G.
Yes is still a great option almost a year after of his released.
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The problem with android tablets is that they do not sell well. That causes OEMs to only release mid to low end tablets perpetuating the situation. It's a sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Instead of making their tablets better so that they can sell better, they make them worse so they sell even worse than before.
That lets (as a result) old tablets to still be excellent. For example my Note Tablet is the best pen-based tablet to this day (maybe ipad pro 9.7 will change that), portable, unlike the 12inch behemoths and awesome functionality coming out of the pen.
Similarly Xperia Z4 remains even after a year of its release one of the best if not *the* best tablet, period. It's the lightest 10 incher ever created by far, making it the only choice for heavy readers. After MarshMallow some of the best battery lives in the industry, excellent screen and the lack of Roms can be fixed by xposed (which pretty much has *all* the features of custom roms).
Still whilst my wife has one, I won't buy one for myself because I don't want to support Sony's ridiculous DRM-Warranty policy. If that doesn't bother you, I don't think you can go wrong with this tablet, I'm hard pressed to find anything better (maybe ipad pro if you don't mind jailbreaking).
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[...] the lack of Roms can be fixed by xposed (which pretty much has *all* the features of custom roms).
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Excellent point.
I've been looking up upgrade my trusty ol' Moto G for quite a while, the horrible camera, lack of RAM and old bottom end processor were its Achilles heel, but until now I have been unable to find a phone that I thought would work for me. With skepticism I decided to go for the XC despite the lack of dev support and general love for this phone, and so far I'm happy that I got it (I bought the white one, good choice). My hope is that this phone becomes popular with the community and developers. Anyway just wanted to introduce myself to the forum, I usually don't post a whole lot but I do read through.
I am exactly in your position although I didn't buy it yet. Still reading infos about it and stuff...but I'm glad to read your opinion. I still think Moto G 1gen dimensions are perfect so I think too this would be perfect. :good:
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I am exactly in your position although I didn't buy it yet. Still reading infos about it and stuff...but I'm glad to read your opinion. I still think Moto G 1gen dimensions are perfect so I think too this would be perfect. :good:
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The longer I use this phone the more I love it. So snappy, takes awesome pictures, great design. It's a big upgrade from the OG moto G
I just got the phone but I would agree the Moto G did a lot right! It's been my backup for years and I think it's all because of that awesome rugged case moto sold as an accessory! The sim slot was destroyed by adapters I've used over time and I never had the LTE version. The community kept it going strong though and the generations after just weren't true to what I liked about the original. I've had a z3c before the Xc and I love holding this device but I'm VERY disappointed by the amount of bloat on this phone. If I can't get root or a slimmer AOSP like ROM from Sony suitable for a daily before my return period is up it's hasta la vista X Compact! Not paying 400 dollars to be pestered about updates to software I don't even use and an uninstallable Facebook app! Get that piece of crap software off my phone!
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I just got the phone but I would agree the Moto G did a lot right! It's been my backup for years and I think it's all because of that awesome rugged case moto sold as an accessory! The sim slot was destroyed by adapters I've used over time and I never had the LTE version. The community kept it going strong though and the generations after just weren't true to what I liked about the original. I've had a z3c before the Xc and I love holding this device but I'm VERY disappointed by the amount of bloat on this phone. If I can't get root or a slimmer AOSP like ROM from Sony suitable for a daily before my return period is up it's hasta la vista X Compact! Not paying 400 dollars to be pestered about updates to software I don't even use and an uninstallable Facebook app! Get that piece of crap software off my phone!
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I disabled the bloatware from the apps drawer (just long press in a blank area), not as good a solution as a custom ROM but it'll do in the mean time
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I disabled the bloatware from the apps drawer (just long press in a blank area), not as good a solution as a custom ROM but it'll do in the mean time
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I took this advice but was still not satisfied. I started searching, watched a youtube that led me to this software:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 which is MUCH better than using sony's version of "disabling"
For example: After disabling Facebook I discovered using the above tool that two facebook apk's were left untouched, com.facebook.system.apk and com.facebook.appmanager.apk
The only thing left would be to destroy the symlink to the app store for these apps that I want gone. Anyone know if that's possible without root?
Also, anyone know if a "Concept" rom from Sony might be on it's way? Xperia X got one and if we had root I'm sure there's a developer out there with the talent to port it over.
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I took this advice but was still not satisfied. I started searching, watched a youtube that led me to this software:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 which is MUCH better than using sony's version of "disabling"
For example: After disabling Facebook I discovered using the above tool that two facebook apk's were left untouched, com.facebook.system.apk and com.facebook.appmanager.apk
The only thing left would be to destroy the symlink to the app store for these apps that I want gone. Anyone know if that's possible without root?
Also, anyone know if a "Concept" rom from Sony might be on it's way? Xperia X got one and if we had root I'm sure there's a developer out there with the talent to port it over.
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Thanks for sharing, i'll give it a try when I get some time to tinker with my phone. looks like a good solution.
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Thanks for sharing, i'll give it a try when I get some time to tinker with my phone. looks like a good solution.
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It helps. It even allows you to hide/disable the sony apps that the sony launcher itself doesn't allow you to. To be safe I searched the app I wanted to hide on apkmirror to find out the actual apk name and then looked for that in the software.
I do have a moto g and am considering to buy X compact. The only thing stopping me from doing it is lack of official CM support. Can someone comment on this?
I also had an Xperia ray which was awesome as well.
There don't appear to be many of these devices around, and I am curious to try and find out how many.
I love the hardware. If it was just about the specs, I'd have bought one already!
But I'm undecided.
If the bootloader was unlockable, with custom recoveries and custom ROMs, I'd have bought one. However, with Asus not cooperating, and I think too few devices around, I am not sure this will achieve the critical mass to get the attention it deserves.
Sadly, the lack of international availability, and, well, Asus being Asus, means that if this was an experiment to judge the demand for super-sized phablets, then I think it failed. I don't think we'll see another from Asus.
I have one, and will be keeping it for now. However it is not my daily driver, and until AT&T fixes their HSPA+ network in my area, or root becomes available so I can unlock bands, this device will stay just a play around device.
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I have one since about 2 months and I love its big screen, reviews said that there was no lag, no freezes etc... False, the proc is not that good and I'm really desapointed but that's not why I will change.
I'll change because I cannot accept that an android phone cannot have root or unlockable bootloader, for me it's not an android...
If I wanted an extremly locked phone, I'd choose an iPhone... lol
Oh and... still no Nougat update for other versions than ZF3 5.2 and 5.5 (Stopped because euh... well, because what in fact?)
So, for a 750€ smartphone...
Asus? Never again.
wow, only six people bought one? and one of those is going to sell it. doesn't look too good.
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Yea I have it and im using it on T-Mobile which is OK with hspa+ but the bootloader unlock not coming out is killing my joy with the phone. Awesome device but I find myself using my OnePlus 3t more because of Asus stupid choices with the bootloader.
Have one & will keep it. The only really irritating thing so far is having both speakers on one side, when you keep the phone in landscape mode; but I'm getting used to tolerate it and can use the headphones anyway.
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Have one & will keep it. The only really irritating thing so far is having both speakers on one side, when you keep the phone in landscape mode; but I'm getting used to tolerate it and can use the headphones anyway.
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the iphone7 has a dummy speaker, one set of grilles are just blind holes!
so I guess even having genuine dual speakers is a win, but yes, would have been better to have them top and bottom, or even on the long edge.
the availability of an official boot loader unlock tool has swung me back to considering this phone again.
I have had my Z3Ultra for a number of months now after I purchased it to replace my nice but also annoying Huawei P8 Max. I totally love this phone. Can't complain with the exception of the lack of Root, which as I write this message, the developer community is working on bringing it to our device. Apart from this, I am looking to keep it until a new device is released with much better spec but at least the same size possibly even a 7.9" (YES it can be as like the Huawei P8 Max, this phone has a lot of wasted space and overall size can still be kept to current size- check Xiaomi Mi Mix) with ultra thin bezels and curved display, stylus pen, keyboard attachment, better cpu, 128GB or 256GB ROM, 6GB+ RAM, dual sim + independent sd slot and finally quad speakers (top, bottom, left, right side with similar quality to the ones already on it (they are awesome, I mean it). Anyway, enough dreaming from me, lets hope someone from Asus is reading my expectations of the next version.
I have one and will keep it, i am coming from a sony z ultra that I've been using for almost 2 years and sony z3 tablet compact 4g 3 months before that and a sony z1 before that, i have only had the asus zenfone 3 ultra for 1 week but have wanted this device since may last year, i bought this for £420 from eglobal and only bought this because my cousin wanted a better device than the Samsung s4 but he wanted to buy the sony z5 because he knew i enjoyed my sony devices but never asked why i didn't have a updated version like the z2 or z3, i sent him the information about the zenfone 3 series and the asus launch videos, he finally bought the deluxe 820 version after 3 months from the same seller but wanted this as soon as i showed these devices to him, i also bought my dad a sony z2 for work and recently upgraded his device to the asus zenfone 3 5.2 inch version. My cousin now wants the ultra version and im going to also buy his deluxe version to use for work. This is the best decision ive made but would buy a xiaomi mi max for less than 200 if i don't get the deluxe from him and stay with my ultra device too. I drive for work and have always had large screen devices for 3-4 years. Lets see what asus has to offer other than the AR version as this is only a small version or normal size lol. I've been recently looking around for root and unlocking bootloader and will wait for asus to release this to all.
Xiaomi Mi Mix? specs? quat speakers?
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I have had my Z3Ultra for a number of months now after I purchased it to replace my nice but also annoying Huawei P8 Max. I totally love this phone. Can't complain with the exception of the lack of Root, which as I write this message, the developer community is working on bringing it to our device. Apart from this, I am looking to keep it until a new device is released with much better spec but at least the same size possibly even a 7.9" (YES it can be as like the Huawei P8 Max, this phone has a lot of wasted space and overall size can still be kept to current size- check Xiaomi Mi Mix) with ultra thin bezels and curved display, stylus pen, keyboard attachment, better cpu, 128GB or 256GB ROM, 6GB+ RAM, dual sim + independent sd slot and finally quad speakers (top, bottom, left, right side with similar quality to the ones already on it (they are awesome, I mean it). Anyway, enough dreaming from me, lets hope someone from Asus is reading my expectations of the next version.
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Where did you get this Xiaomi Mi Mix specs? quad speakers? stylus pen? curved display? keyboard attachment? sd slot? Man, what are you smocking, cause I want some!!!
berbecaru said:
Where did you get this Xiaomi Mi Mix specs? quad speakers? stylus pen? curved display? keyboard attachment? sd slot? Man, what are you smocking, cause I want some!!!
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It is nice to dream and imagine good things in life and the spec posted (as stated in my original post) is what I want to see in an ideal device of this size. Oh No. I am definitely not smoking anything. Just dreaming the possibility of a perfect phablet (A mix between ZF3U, Samsung Galaxy S7/S8 type edge display and mi mix type bezelless front with the extras as cherry on top).
BTW. As I discovered very recently ASUS Customer Service for the ZenFone series is rubbish to say the least but more like non-existent. God help us when we need care for our precious ZF3U.
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It is nice to dream and imagine good things in life and the spec posted (as stated in my original post) is what I want to see in an ideal device of this size. Oh No. I am definitely not smoking anything. Just dreaming the possibility of a perfect phablet (A mix between ZF3U, Samsung Galaxy S7/S8 type edge display and mi mix type bezelless front with the extras as cherry on top).
BTW. As I discovered very recently ASUS Customer Service for the ZenFone series is rubbish to say the least but more like non-existent. God help us when we need care for our precious ZF3U.
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You are wright buddy, this is what I want too but no body makes it. :laugh::laugh:
My wife had 1. She dropped it face first on a concrete with flip cover that came with the phone. The screen still shattered. The flip cover is coming covering the screen but still didn't protect it from the impact. I guess that's the gamble when you have a very large screen.
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Love it so far
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wow, only six people bought one? and one of those is going to sell it. doesn't look too good.
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I have one and love it, despite the stuff that is installed there out of the box. Its fast, bright and really useful. One thing that slightly upsets me - need to reboot it every second day to keep at the top of its abilities.
Overall - I'd never hesitate to recommend it.:good:
I had one, then gave it to my daughter while i used other smaller screen phone... Then i realize i got hooked on big screen, so i bought another one for me
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wow, only six people bought one? and one of those is going to sell it. doesn't look too good.
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Mainly, you CAN'T assume that just because folks don't report stuff here on XDA, that no one has it. Next, many users are Chinese, or from Taiwan. They won't necessarily speak English. Third, since the LTE bands are NOT available in the U.S.A., that kills more of the market. Lastly, the going rate is around $500 USD, if someone here DID want to buy one. Ours is black screen bricked right now, so we're trying to get help with the (WW) international version unbricking.
I should have been more clear, what I was interested in was how many XDA forum members have bought this, so as to gauge the level of interest and likelihood of hackers and developers doing interesting things with it. I don't know enough about custom Asus ROMS in this respect to actually do the work, but would have been willing to help test rooting and custom recoveries, only I ended up buying an LG V20 because it had all the features I wanted and the AZf3U didn't, and also my concerns about Asus's upgrade longevity set in.
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Mainly, you CAN'T assume that just because folks don't report stuff here on XDA, that no one has it. Next, many users are Chinese, or from Taiwan. They won't necessarily speak English. Third, since the LTE bands are NOT available in the U.S.A., that kills more of the market. Lastly, the going rate is around $500 USD, if someone here DID want to buy one. Ours is black screen bricked right now, so we're trying to get help with the (WW) international version unbricking.
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I was planning to get zf3 ultra but with almost no rom support, I might get the mi max 2 instead.
I don't think the mi mix is a good idea since it has a fragile ceramic body. I prefer metal body...
*Edit: I gave away my mi max (helium ver) and back to using my 5 years old coolpad 9976a