Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 - Someone tried already ? - Xperia Z3 Accessories

Hello,
Did anyone tried this new chargers ?
Where can i buy worldwide shipping ? can't find anywhere :/
thanks

cables
I'm planning to buy a quick charger for my Z3. Maybe i'll buy this one. I just want to know, what cable should i use? or will the default cable of the Z3 would enable quick charge? Here is the charger i'm planning to buy. Is quick charge cable dependent as well? can't find any post about the cables.
http://www.pure-gear.com/extreme-usb-wall-charger-849.html

I thought it was a Quickcharger (EP880), the one that came with the phone.

It is EP881.

If you buy a EP881, they give you a EP880 power adapter(this already comes with the phone) and a different looking usb cable. so i would say if you buy a z3 you already have a quick charger. someone in the z3 compact forums confirms this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/accessories/magnetic-dock-quick-charger-t2926784
also if you google EP881 you can see multiple images of the EP880 power adapter.
i hope this clears up any confusion

EP880 is not a Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 charger

FYI, just received a Qualcomm Quick charge 2.0 compatible charger and the Z3 definitely takes advantage of it. I have the Tenergy Turbo charger and the light is blue for normal charging and green for Quick charge 2.0. The only downside is it doesn't seem to work using the magnetic charging port, only directly into USB.

Roughly how fast do you get a full charge?
I read that with 2.0 it rapid charges to ~65% and then normal rate.

abhinav.tella said:
Roughly how fast do you get a full charge?
I read that with 2.0 it rapid charges to ~65% and then normal rate.
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Not sure since I only had it on for a little while testing today. No I don't feel like running down my battery and testing it, it takes to long to run down the battery
It absolutely, definitely charges at QC 2.0 speeds though, but only via the USB directly into the phone, not through the magnetic charger.

se1000 said:
Not sure since I only had it on for a little while testing today. No I don't feel like running down my battery and testing it, it takes to long to run down the battery
It absolutely, definitely charges at QC 2.0 speeds though, but only via the USB directly into the phone, not through the magnetic charger.
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True, but if you do manage reach absolute zero, and recharge, do tell us.

se1000 said:
EP880 is not a Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 charger
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proof? sony seem to think they are considering when you buy EP881 you buy is actually a combination of EP880 and a usb cable.
did you buy an EP881? if so what model number is on the brick?
also read here direct from sony second and fifth post's down http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/needed-help-with-charger-for-xperia-z/td-p/373667

henson0115 said:
proof? sony seem to think they are considering when you buy EP881 you buy is actually a combination of EP880 and a usb cable.
did you buy an EP881? if so what model number is on the brick?
also read here direct from sony second and fifth post's down http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/needed-help-with-charger-for-xperia-z/td-p/373667
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they are "quick charge" but not Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 spec. Maximum output for the EP880 is 5v 1500mA. Quick Charge 2.0 charges at 5v 2000mA (2A) or 9v 2A, or 12v 1.5A

se1000 said:
they are "quick charge" but not Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 spec. Maximum output for the EP880 is 5v 1500mA. Quick Charge 2.0 charges at 5v 2000mA (2A) or 9v 2A, or 12v 1.5A
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ah ok that now makes sense, Sony should make this clear. it is already hard enough to find information about all of this.

Guys,
Charger provided with my Sony Xperia z3 got short circuit (burning smell from the head piece) on the 1st charge itself. It was replaced in the sony service center. The issue is, the output the replaced charger was 5V-1500mAH. I forgot the output rating the charger provided in the box. Please confirm the output rating by the pic. Based on your inputs, I will raise a request to my retailer to provide. Please find the rating of the replaced charger.

Yes mine is 1500 as well out of the box. Sorry your pic don't load. Can you tell me model number of your charger?
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Now i see it. Yes it's 1500ma and your charger is ep880

infinitylook said:
Yes mine is 1500 as well out of the box. Sorry your pic don't load. Can you tell me model number of your charger?
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Now i see it. Yes it's 1500ma and your charger is ep880
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If my memory stands correct, box version of the charger rating was mentioned as 3000mAh or 2000mAH. I might have misread it in the frenzy of getting Z3 and I am the 1st buyer in Chennai, atleast that's wat the retailer told me.
I forgot to take a snapshot at tat time. My USB cable version is EC803 and Charger (provided by service center) is EP880. I have searched throughout the internet and no where the output rating of Z3 box version of charger was mentioned.
Are u sure that the box version of Sony Xperia Z3 (D6653 LTE) has the same output rating of 1500mAH. Thanks in advance.

ananthakannan said:
If my memory stands correct, box version of the charger rating was mentioned as 3000mAh or 2000mAH. I might have misread it in the frenzy of getting Z3 and I am the 1st buyer in Chennai, atleast that's wat the retailer told me.
I forgot to take a snapshot at tat time. My USB cable version is EC803 and Charger (provided by service center) is EP880. I have searched throughout the internet and no where the output rating of Z3 box version of charger was mentioned.
Are u sure that the box version of Sony Xperia Z3 (D6653 LTE) has the same output rating of 1500mAH. Thanks in advance.
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Definitely 1500mAh

I really wish Sony would have included a quick charger in the box....

I am disappointed that the quick charge is not working with the magnetic charging port... did you try using the adapter or the usb cable when you tested if it charged faster with the magnetic port?

jaoropez said:
I am disappointed that the quick charge is not working with the magnetic charging port... did you try using the adapter or the usb cable when you tested if it charged faster with the magnetic port?
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"quick charge" or charging at 5v 2A (2000mA) works through the magnetic charging port. This is still very fast.
Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0, which charges at 9v 2A does not work through the magnetic port, which is not a surprise to me.

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Quick Charger 2.0 Unit at good price...

Hello everyone I found in aliexpress.com a charger with QC 2.0 technology at a great price and demonstrates all requirements have to be able to charge our equipment in a quickly and efficiently way.
Tell me what you think and if any of you can try out the charger.
Search: "globel universal charger DC 24W MAX 2A quick charge 2.0 4 usb port wall charger changeable plug for mobile phone" only US $ 16.00 / item
Best Regard's
you mean this one?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/glob...e-2-0-4-usb-port-wall-charger/2018464264.html
You already got it ?
Do not bother with quick charge 2.00, although snapdragon 801 support it I don't think our z2 software has that enabled.
Why I am saying that is because the maximum charging current the z2 draws is 1.50 amps (measuring it with one of these)
I've tried different chargers (oneplus charger, anker charger which both capable of 2 amps) and different cables and always the max is 1.50
@Super Prince
Read here: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/sony-xperia-z2
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@Super Prince
Read here: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/sony-xperia-z2
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Yes, I know about that already and I mentioned that in my comment. But as I said the z2 maxes out at 1.5 amps I think because of software limit.
I really hope this QC 2.00 get working in the z2 because it takes a lot of time to charge this phone fully.
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Super Prince said:
Yes, I know about that already and I mentioned that in my comment. But as I said the z2 maxes out at 1.5 amps I think because of software limit.
I really hope this QC 2.00 get working in the z2 because it takes a lot of time to charge this phone fully.
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Is that on a dead battery? Current flow will settle down as the battery reaches more charge for safety.
I use a 1A charger from my old HTC phone with the dock at night, but it doesn't feel to me like my Sony wall charger is any faster. In fact, it feels slower. The quickest charges I got were actually through my desktop, my motherboard has a charging feature on the USB 3.0 ports.
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Yes, I know about that already and I mentioned that in my comment.
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Ah sorry, guess I read wrong.
But as Sony and Qualcomm say the Z2 is QuickCharge compatible I think it should be working.
You can't see more than 1.5A because you do not have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger! And even if you would and then plug this USB anpereMeter in between it might block the data transfer making the phone think it is connected to a standard USB port.
I'm not even sure if QuickCharge 2.0 CAN draw more than 1.5A! We only know that it allows up to 9V or 12V.
There are 3A or 4A 9V chargers around. But I don't know how much the phone would want to get.
BTW. With Doomkernel and FastCharge enabled you should be able to demand more than 1.5A... I think up to 2A was available in FauxApp
But I think I failed when I tried. Not sure anymore... ^^ been a while.

Quick Charge Works (kinda)

I got my phone today, and one of the first things that I did was test all of the Chargers.
My first thought is that the one plus cable that I bought is very high quality. Every charger that I tested, it charge faster than the cheapo ones that I bought on Amazon.
However, what I've been consistently surprised with is that using the same cable this phone charges faster on a Qualcomm quick charge 2 charger than it does on a standard USB charger. I've tested this with all sorts of Chargers around my house and I'm consistently seeing around 1500 when connected to a quick charger, and only a thousand when connected to a standard charger.
The USB C charger that came with the phone is significantly faster. However I wanted to share this so that for those others who bought all sorts of Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 Chargers, don't throw them out. They're still better than a regular charger.
Yeah on a good USB 3.1 cable (nice and thick) with my standard quickcharge charging block (7 ports, 60W total IIRC) I get 'charging rapidly' and it charges better than 1% a minute - about the same rate my N5 did on a much smaller battery. I've still not taken the google charger out of its box yet.. Need to get around to testing it even if I can't see myself using it.
TonyHoyle said:
Yeah on a good USB 3.1 cable (nice and thick) with my standard quickcharge charging block (7 ports, 60W total IIRC) I get 'charging rapidly' and it charges better than 1% a minute - about the same rate my N5 did on a much smaller battery. I've still not taken the google charger out of its box yet.. Need to get around to testing it even if I can't see myself using it.
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Care to share said cable and block?
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I am curious as to what "standard" chargers you are using. I have a wall charger rated at 5v 2.1a (non-QC) per port and a car charger rated at 5v 2.4a (non-QC) per port, and both of those charge at 1500ma. Is it possible that your "standard" chargers are only rated for 5v 1a output?
SymbioticGenius said:
Care to share said cable and block?
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B010SFDKC6
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00L2SBZ80
My man. Thank you.
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if possible, please post the charging rates and time taken for charging with:
a) bundled type c fast charger
b) qc 2.0 quickcharger
c) standard 5v/2a charger
thanks!!!
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Can anyone recommend a car charger with the right cable combination that would give the fastest charging?
NVM... I found one with reviews stating that it rapid charges their 6P.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0146FK3G0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
fchowd0696 said:
Can anyone recommend a car charger with the right cable combination that would give the fastest charging?
NVM... I found one with reviews stating that it rapid charges their 6P.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0146FK3G0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
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Bought that one though still waiting on my phone. Like that it has micro USB too for other devices. Charges my HAM2 very fast.
Your results have nothing to do with them being QuickCharge bricks, I have a inline amp meter and I can get 1.5 on any brick with an amp rating high enough, not just my QC bricks that I was using with my Moto X. At least people will know if they have a QC brick they'll get at least that though.
I didn't know this thread existed. I'm getting what I think is pretty poor performance from the stock 6p charger. Please see this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3234521

Nexus 6 Quick Charger suggestion

Hi, got the Nexus 6. Don't have the Motorola Turbo charger with it and it's not available in my country. Can you please help me in choosing the best quick charger from the ones available in my country? Here are some of the quick chargers that I can buy:
1. Tronsmart TS-WC1Q
2. Aukey PA-U28 Turbo
3. Tronsmart TS-WC3PC Quick Charge 2.0
4. USAMS US Plug Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 EPA-466644
5. Pisen Quick Charge 2.0 QC2.0 TS-C057
6. ROCK Quick Charge 2.0
Thanks in advance
yasirrfc said:
Hi, got the Nexus 6. Don't have the Motorola Turbo charger with it and it's not available in my country. Can you please help me in choosing the best quick charger from the ones available in my country? Here are some of the quick chargers that I can buy:
1. Tronsmart TS-WC1Q
2. Aukey PA-U28 Turbo
3. Tronsmart TS-WC3PC Quick Charge 2.0
4. USAMS US Plug Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 EPA-466644
5. Pisen Quick Charge 2.0 QC2.0 TS-C057
6. ROCK Quick Charge 2.0
Thanks in advance
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Check the capacity of the chargers.
The original M-charger has a capacity of 1,6 A at 5V. You can use any charger with at least that capacity.
NLBeev said:
Check the capacity of the chargers.
The original M-charger has a capacity of 1,6 A at 5V. You can use any charger with at least that capacity.
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Thanks. However, i also wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc. I think I saw somewhere that the micro USB side of a quick charger melted when it was kept on in the power socket?
yasirrfc said:
Thanks. However, i also wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc. I think I saw somewhere that the micro USB side of a quick charger melted when it was kept on in the power socket?
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Get the Aukey one, it has a really really good review rate at Amazon. It also should come with a cable so you shouldn't be worried about that one.
yasirrfc said:
...wanted to know the experience of existing users with these chargers, including power issues etc.
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I prefer wireless charging for my N4 and N6.
I am using cheap QI-chargers on several places. The QI-pads can be used with almost any USB charger. Of course wireless charging is slow.
I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
yasirrfc said:
I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
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As long as it is Certified by qualcomm you should be fine.
Check this and if its mentioned there you can buy it:
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
blanco2701 said:
Get the Aukey one, it has a really really good review rate at Amazon. It also should come with a cable so you shouldn't be worried about that one.
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I recommend the aukey as well, I used it for my moto x 2nd gen and now my Nexus 6.
I got a Aukey one, and it's really great
In my experience and from others Anker makes good products might want to check into them. And a good charging cable is just as important.
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I have an Aukey and a Tronsmart. Both work well. Strangely enough, the quality of your USB cable also appears to play a legitimate role in whether Quick Charge2.0 is consistently recognized and used. In other words, high quality charger AND high quality cable is recommended!
just want to ask if there is any correlation between using QC chargers & getting a bloated battery?
yasirrfc said:
I'm thinking of going with the Tronsmart WC1Q as it is cheap and has good Amazon reviews. I'm not really technical when it comes to chargers. This is the technical info: 5V/2.1A 9V/2A 12V/1.5A. Can anyone confirm if the power details of this charger will be fine with Nexus 6?
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Most important is the 5V/2.1A. This is better than the original Motorola charger I have.
The other values are for Quick charging.
Also better than the original charger.
But I don't know if this Tronsmart is compatible with the quick charging mode of Motorola.
iluvatrix said:
just want to ask if there is any correlation between using QC chargers & getting a bloated battery?
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Not at all... the phone is made to be compatible with QC. You can even use the QC charger with a phone that doesn't support it, what will happen is that the charger won't activate the QC and just charge at normal speed.
NLBeev said:
Most important is the 5V/2.1A. This is better than the original Motorola charger I have.
The other values are for Quick charging.
Also better than the original charger.
But I don't know if this Tronsmart is compatible with the quick charging mode of Motorola.
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As long as it is Qualcomm 2.0 Certified it is supposed to work. Motorola's "turbo charge" is just a rebranded Qualcomm 2.0 Quick Charge.
I have just tried the Aukey in your list with my N6 and it did not work as a fast charger even tough the specs of the charger says so. to get the N6 to charge at QC2 you will need a charger with 9V 2A or at least 1.6A to reach approximately 14.4 watt.
many chargers do have the said specs but they won't recognize the N6 as a fast charging phone unfortunately. meanwhile still searching
ROIDjoy said:
I have just tried the Aukey in your list with my N6 and it did not work as a fast charger even tough the specs of the charger says so. to get the N6 to charge at QC2 you will need a charger with 9V 2A or at least 1.6A to reach approximately 14.4 watt.
many chargers do have the said specs but they won't recognize the N6 as a fast charging phone unfortunately. meanwhile still searching
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My aukey works just fine, been using it for a while now. I even have a aukey portable battery charger with QC 2.0 and it works great as well, especially when I go out and play Pokémon Go
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My aukey works just fine, been using it for a while now. I even have a aukey portable battery charger with QC 2.0 and it works great as well, especially when I go out and play Pokémon Go
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Thanks for your reply then it must be the piece that I have used had some problem
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I use this one and it works perfectly for me. It has an LED that changes color depending on whether it is in normal charging or fast charging mode. Unfortunately, I don't think it is on your list.
Fred
I am getting a kind of a weird experience this end. I use my Huawei quick charger of the mate 8, and it is only recognized by the Motorola Nexus 6 as a fast charger after I reboot the mobile then it starts charging at 9.15 V and 1.36 Amps. it does fast charge at this volt and amps at highs of 2240 mAps on Ampere application !!
I could not figure out another way to get the charger to recognize the Nexus 6 as a fast charging phone except by rebooting, and still working on it. in the meantime I have ordered a Choetech QC 3.0 and waiting for arrival. my question does this happen on your chargers or does it connect directly to 9V when connected to chargers like Aukey, Tronsmart, Anker etc. ??
Guys, is it normal that the phone get heated like an iron box when charging ? ( Well I noted that this happens only if my battery is below 50-60% ) Using Stock charger. Same happens (heating, but temperature is lower than before) even when I use One+ charger.

Quickcharge

Hai, can i used Aukey Quickcharge on Z Ultra or any other phone that dont support quickcharge....any negative effect on long term...i read it maybe shorten the lifespan of the battery, but some say its okay because the phone can only receive what amount of Amp it support regardless the more Amps the charger support....
Which one is true....
martin132014 said:
Hai, can i used Aukey Quickcharge on Z Ultra or any other phone that dont support quickcharge....any negative effect on long term...i read it maybe shorten the lifespan of the battery, but some say its okay because the phone can only receive what amount of Amp it support regardless the more Amps the charger support....
Which one is true....
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Yes. The Quickcharge depends on the Algorithm between the charger and device. If no handshake is received the charger will proceed as a normal power supply.
About ampere input. Since Lollipop the way of charging has changed on a software level. Before when the Z ultra was released. I remember the charger pumping out whatever the charger could and my device would become warm. Checking the amps input it showed between 1.3-1.5A.
But nowadays the charger never become warm at all on Lollipop 5.1 and above.
You can be bypass the amp limit with kernel mod. Or simply by using a usb cable without data + and data -.
This type of cable is often provided in the box when you buy a power-bank. A short thick micro usb cable.
Its useful if you need a quicker charge but without any "Quickcharge" technology.
martin132014 said:
Hai, can i used Aukey Quickcharge on Z Ultra or any other phone that dont support quickcharge....any negative effect on long term...i read it maybe shorten the lifespan of the battery, but some say its okay because the phone can only receive what amount of Amp it support regardless the more Amps the charger support....
Which one is true....
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Sure. I am using a Raw Power charger (3 usb port) with 4.8A max (dynamic) but you can obtain the max performance with a right usb cable such as a Raw Power usb cable 20AWG (the top).

Original vs Fake Xiaomi 27w charger video comparison

I have seen many people complaining about their 27w Xiaomi charger with problem of not turbo charging, low charging current, overheat, dont work with 20w charger, and etc. And I one of the these guys too. I have ordered two times 27w loosepack charger from chinese online shop and all are fakes. They dont give me consistent turbo charging and dont charge faster than 18w! This pissed me off because there are so many loosepacks out there and the original ones comes from 20w wireless charging bundling box, from mi 9 chinese box, or from 27w charger with box packaging which none of that chinese online shop sell that, all only loosepack which high risk of counterfeits.
Yesterday I bought the 27w charger with box in my local online shop. The seller told me he got the charger from local store in china and bought it to my country. After the charger arrives i tested in and yeah finally I got the original one. I always get "charge turbo" whenever i charge and measurement in ampere App can reach 4800mA which I never get even 3000mA with 18w or that fake 27w one.
So I made a comparison video of those original vs fake charger. I hope it can help you guys who experienced same like me and want to find the original ones. Here is my youtube video link:
https://youtu.be/xx-P6BxZzkU
If you want to see video later, here is also attached the quick glance of my both orig and fake ones. They do have difference in printing quality. And the Ampere screenshot of original charger for reference.
Great. Where can you get the original one?
SmallTarzan said:
Great. Where can you get the original one?
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I got it from someone who bought it from chinese local store.
If you want get the original one, you need to buy charger with official packaging box. Can be a bundle with 20w wireless, or standalone with box like i bought, but its very rare.
Specifically: aliexpress. Search the shop and see the feedbacks. Look for shop which can provide 20w wireless bundling in one box
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
PriPhaze said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32976262381.html
I bought that bundle like 20 days ago, it should aerrive by next week at max.
But i got the "traveler charger" (Xiaomi 1A1C) which comes with a Usb Type C and Normal USB port.
Hopefully it charges correctly i will let u know but for now the bad comments i have read just say that they cannont turbo charge using the type C Port.
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Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
arddy1 said:
Thats 30w charger right? I hope all these chargers are original. I will wait for your review
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Yes 30w if you use the type c connector or at least that what they claim.
But since max supported for our device is 27w it is kinda useless.
But nevertheless I will make sure to post here once I get it and try it
Hi
Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
daniel0917 said:
Hi
Can you get turbo charging with the wireless charger powered by the 1a1c 30w charger?
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Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
It is not true that the original is only in a transparent box. I got it without this transparent box and it works well.
Thanks for the great infos, I'll post again when I get my 27W charger I ordered from AliExpress!
galakty said:
Nope, it wont work. 20W wireless is working only with MDY-10.
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Can your 30w charger turbo charge mi 9?
So, anyone has a link to a reliable and tested seller on aliexpress for the 27w charger?
Here's a post to a review of the original 27 W charger ordered from Alixepress. I saw his review on a German forum too. You can also see a screenshot from the Ampere app. Looks legit. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79569598&postcount=87
Direct link to Alixepress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32974660297.html
You can also check reviews there, several people wrote that Charging Turbo works, you can also see it in their photos.
Personally, I've order the charger from here a week ago: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33001884969.html
Almost every photo review shows Charge Turbo, so hopefully it's true. I just have to wait until it arrives to try it out.
@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
UPD. I checked were from i have ordered the original : https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3470060?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dazyZc0
I have got 27w+cable+20w wireless charger+eu plug, from that store and they came in one package. So i don't know if only the charger will be original. It was shipped ~10 days to Israel.
g_seva said:
I happen to have both with line and without, and both are working the same Both give turbo charge mode with cable and with wireless charger every time, i would never thought that one might be fake if haven't seen this post.
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But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
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But did you actually measure the current with Ampere? In my case it seems I also have a fake one but I always get turbo charge mode as well. However when I measured the actual current in Ampere App I can see that the original 18w charger gives more current/power to the phone than the 27w one.
If possible use Ampere to measure if and report the results.
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Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
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Just measure the charge time in my case if i remember right, 27w charges the phone ~1 hour and charger witch came with phone i didn't measure exactly but i think it something like 1 hour 40 minutes.
As for Ampere it shows ~1500 Ma and ~4.5v on 90% battery level on both chargers and both cables witch came with the chargers. And yes in Israel we have 220-240v power supply, don't remember exactly but i think it's same as Europe. For 5 minutes that i have checked the phone charged to 92% level
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You should measure it when charge is still below 50%, after that charging current starts to drop.
It might be the case yours is a very good fake charger
I will also compare charging times with mine and the. post the results in a couple of days.
Hello guys,
I bought and recieved this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33000669695.html
And it shows "Charge Turbo" as well as about 4700-5000ma using Ampere.
Hope it helps
silmarx said:
@arddy1, very nice post, a very detailed comparison. Thanks you!
I was convinced that mine was ok because I see "Charging Turbo" on the Mi9 every time I connect the charger. But looking to the charger details it actually matches the fake one you shown in your video. So I decided to perform some more tests.
- I tried to use a USB voltage/current meter but when I use it then I don't get "Charging Turbo" anymore, which means it blocks somehow some communication between the charger and the phone, could it be?
- in Ampere I can only get 2600mA, while using by cheap 2USD QC 3.0 charger I can get 3200mA;
- since this charger is effectively recognized by the phone with "Charging Turbo", I suppose the problem with the fake one is not the "protocol" or compatibility, but the amount of current it can send to the phone, what do you think?
The final test will be to perform a full charge with both my QC 3.0 and this one to see the difference.
My main concern now is: being a fake charger, is it safe to use it? may it damage the phone? What do you think?
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Phone showing charge turbo or not is not determined by the current. I have tested both mode in fake charger, the currents are almost same. It may be determined by that protocol or compatibility thing. When the cable is plugged in and your phone detects that charger is compatible, it will trigger turbo charging mode and allowing more currents to enter inside. But in fake chargers, although it have been already allowed, the charger hardware dont have capability to do that.
I can't test current using usb meter too because it caused the phone cant read the charger compatibility. So in the video i compare currents with app ampere. As long the voltage in app are about same, it can be compared.
About safe or not, i recommend you not to use it. The temperature in fake ones is noticeably higher when charging than the original, even the original has bigger output current.

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