Preface:
I don't own this item yet. I'm ordering tonight, and my Nexus Player arrives 12/2. I'll report back as I test different things with it (and the unit itself), but wanted to alert you guys to an item that looks pretty useful.
One of our own forum members, Hawke84, reviewed a prior product from this company (link to review), and Amazon reviews seem favorable for this particular product.
I am providing the Amazon link as a reference only. This is NOT an Amazon affiliate/reseller link and I gain no benefit from you clicking it.
The Product:
http://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Inateck-Bus-powered-Laptops-Ultrabooks/dp/B00IJUDTBK
Comes in 4 flavors. Base model supports USB 3.0/USB OTG connectors, while having 4 USB 2.0/3.0 inputs. Two similar models replace the 4th USB input with your choice of Ethernet, or SD Card Reader. The final model is an Apple-style (so they say) 7 USB port input. I'm debating between the base model and the Ethernet model and will order tonight. I really think I'll be fine with WiFi, but given the issues I've heard, having Ethernet as an option might be better overall.
If anyone has any experience with this, do tell. Otherwise, standby for my feedback in a week or so. I plan to use this for storage expansion and to try it with any USB-based gamepads that I can find in my house before dropping $40 on an official one.
EDIT: Wife talked me out of it. Suggested waiting to see if we even like the NP (I'm sure I will), and she also noted that the Ethernet model doesn't support MicroSUB. Only the 4-port model comes with the microUSB adapter. Due to this, I'm going to go with an alternative, but still wanted to point out this product for those who were considering separate USB hubs and OTG/MicroUSB adapters. This is a cheap way to get both.
Looks like a useful device, but probably not for the Nexus Player. To date, all usb 3 adapters I've tried have not worked with the box, including a LAN adapter with a chipset that is otherwise supported on usb 2 versions. Until newer drivers are incorporated in lollipop on the NP, I'd recommend sticking with usb 2 devices.
If you have an AC router in your home, you'll most likely be fine with the NP's wireless... I almost always have a 867mbps link rate with the player and have had zero issues streaming even 3D blu-rays. YMMV, of course, but I'd give it a shot without a lan adapter first if your are AC already.
Good luck when the player arrives... its a good box with a ton of potential yet to be unlocked, imo.
Elrondolio said:
Looks like a useful device, but probably not for the Nexus Player. To date, all usb 3 adapters I've tried have not worked with the box, including a LAN adapter with a chipset that is otherwise supported on usb 2 versions. Until newer drivers are incorporated in lollipop on the NP, I'd recommend sticking with usb 2 devices.
If you have an AC router in your home, you'll most likely be fine with the NP's wireless... I almost always have a 867mbps link rate with the player and have had zero issues streaming even 3D blu-rays. YMMV, of course, but I'd give it a shot without a lan adapter first if your are AC already.
Good luck when the player arrives... its a good box with a ton of potential yet to be unlocked, imo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
mind if I ask how you shared content over wireless? I am trying to set a wireless HDD inside home wifi, hopefully to be able to copy files from my macbook and be able to read it straight from NP. So far I'm not even sure if that's doable.
king_dani said:
mind if I ask how you shared content over wireless? I am trying to set a wireless HDD inside home wifi, hopefully to be able to copy files from my macbook and be able to read it straight from NP. So far I'm not even sure if that's doable.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you can set a drive to be accessible over the network via other devices, you can then access these files from apps on the NP that would otherwise be able to access them on other Android devices. I won't have my NP until Tuesday at the latest, but any Android phone I've ever owned was able to stream local MP$/M4V/MKV video files using XBMC or ES File Explorer. I don't expect the NP to be any different, nor are these the only apps capable of this functionality.
jaykresge said:
If you can set a drive to be accessible over the network via other devices, you can then access these files from apps on the NP that would otherwise be able to access them on other Android devices. I won't have my NP until Tuesday at the latest, but any Android phone I've ever owned was able to stream local MP$/M4V/MKV video files using XBMC or ES File Explorer. I don't expect the NP to be any different, nor are these the only apps capable of this functionality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I thought, but could you be more specific as to how to make it accessible? Can a WiFi external HDD be made accessible independent of other devices (macbook/pc/tablet)?
NP can access network shares via ES File Explorer.
Install ES File Explorer from Google Play
Do a network scan within ES
If your HDD is available on your network, ES will find it.
king_dani said:
That's what I thought, but could you be more specific as to how to make it accessible? Can a WiFi external HDD be made accessible independent of other devices (macbook/pc/tablet)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How to setup your home network is beyond the scope of this thread. If you know how to setup a network share to be accessed by other devices, then that network share can also be accessed by your NP. If you don't know how to setup your network (this is an observation, not an insult), my recommendation is to do some Google searches on network setup with whatever setup you're currently using. I'm currently using a Windows 7 desktop connected to a Linksys E4200 with a 3TB HDD plugged directly into the router via USB, so my setup is relatively simple. For all I know, you're using Mac OS X, a D-Link router, and a separate WIFI NAS. This is why I suggest that you search for what is relevant to your setup. It's not one size fits all and I could literally write a book on various network setups that would drag this thread way off topic.
king_dani said:
mind if I ask how you shared content over wireless? I am trying to set a wireless HDD inside home wifi, hopefully to be able to copy files from my macbook and be able to read it straight from NP. So far I'm not even sure if that's doable.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a synology nas and have created an smb network share of all my media. On the Nexus, I install kodi then add the smb share to its library. It scrapes all the media on the share and downloads fanart, dvd covers, synoposis, actor-director-writer credits, etc. and presents my collection in a very media centric way. Very easy to setup once you have a network share for whatever device you use.
Elrondolio said:
I have a synology nas and have created an smb network share of all my media. On the Nexus, I install kodi then add the smb share to its library. It scrapes all the media on the share and downloads fanart, dvd covers, synoposis, actor-director-writer credits, etc. and presents my collection in a very media centric way. Very easy to setup once you have a network share for whatever device you use.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I'm not mistaken smb is file format for windows systems right? I don't have a PC in my household, and I think I should go for a macbook friendly network attached storage? Am I right?
king_dani said:
If I'm not mistaken smb is file format for windows systems right? I don't have a PC in my household, and I think I should go for a macbook friendly network attached storage? Am I right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
SMB stands for Server Message Block, it is also called CIFS or Common Internet File System. It is not a file format, but a networking protocol. Windows relies on smb for its shares, but in no way is smb a windows technology. My synology runs linux but can provide smb shares (among other protocols).
NFS, or Network File System is another networking protocol. Linux relies on nfs by default for its networking shares, but in no way is NFS a linux technology. Your mac can also share via AFP or Apple Filing Protocol, but can also easily share via smb or nfs.
NFS can be faster and less cpu intensive than other protocols so you may want to use that, as kodi supports it well. Either nfs or smb will do you fine... it all depends on what your hardware supports and ease of setting it up.
Related
Hello,
I have been considering to make a setup for a music jukebox fed by a NAS HDD. There are quite a lot of dedicated product for multimedia player, but they all require a display to browse the NAS files (except the squeezeBox touch, wich looks almost like what I would like to have, but requires proprietary soft, not working with any NAS).
Basically, I want to manage music for my living room, but I want to keep any display away as much as possible.
So I thought that a kind of small tablet could do the job.
Requirements :
Acces to the NAS via network, preferably via ethernet.
Stereo output (any kind even if digital is prefered).
Small display 7 inch ok, 10 inch maximum (I don't want any angry birds invasion).
Cool file browser, preferably with music management (artist, style, album tags... CD cover if available).
I discovered that Archos made cool tablet and that OS may be hacked, so I can expect to find a good rom for this kind of use (or may be cook my own, though I don't look forward this)
More of all, you can find cheap Archos 7.0 home, Arnova... devices.
So now I think the best is to ask to those who already know the more about the device (and I would apreciate any advice for I might need something else).
So far I know there are no decent android tablet with ethernet port (I'd rather not have to rely on WiFi), but may be there are some adaptor.
Thank you for reading. More thangs to come for those how will take time to answer.
Not sure exactly what you want but it sounds like you should look at MPD, the Music Player Daemon. I set it up on my file server (a linux box, not a NAS) and there are android clients for it that let me control it from anywhere I get wi-fi. I've also seen MPD run on openwrt devices too... google "mighty ohm wi-fi radio" for more.
Thank you Jimmy,
Indeed, I found some soft that could do the job. I guess you recommend this project. Sounds like very promising.
In fact I have more question about the hardware. I don't think the Archos 7 home provide any kind of ethernet port even through an adaptor. So I'll need to set up WiFi (I don't use WiFi at the moment, for I prefer wired solution). I discovered that it is possible to hack the Archos tablets, but I don't know for now what are the gen8 and gen9. I suppose that Archos 7 home are g8, but not sure for now.
May be should I consider some other hardware issue, but since I only intend to read music I suppose the archos 7 home should have enough CPU power.
Another alternative seem to be an Archos9PC, but first it is more expencive, then it runs Windows I really don't know.
You are wrong, the Archos 7 Home ( you are in the wrong forum for that ) is Gen7.
Gen8 ( 8th Generation ) is the Archos 70 Internet Tablet.
While the HT has enough cpu power, i don't think you will be happy with it, but who knows.
The Gen8 has UPnP directly in the Firmware and the std Musikplayer allready has an option to use the "normal" twonky ( or whatever is running on your NAS) Server.
You can use a OTG Cable and a USB-Ethernet adapter, but Wifi is alot easier.
fzelle said:
You are wrong, the Archos 7 Home ( you are in the wrong forum for that ) is Gen7.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, If I understand well, gen7 won't be possible for rom change. NoGood.
fzelle said:
While the HT has enough cpu power, i don't think you will be happy with it, but who knows.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for the advise. I suspected something like this. I'll keep on reading.
ZeGuido said:
Ok, If I understand well, gen7 won't be possible for rom change. NoGood.
Thank you for the advise. I suspected something like this. I'll keep on reading.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I suggest as I do. Run NAS with the DLNA. Setup a western digital hd media player to your audio/video system. Use the "bubble upnp" app on your Archos to controlled it all. I use this method and am able to play content from the NAS to the WDHDTV or straight to the tablet or vise versa... from tablet to WDHDTV... bubble does it ALL.... if you want video too...HD video maybe? Use a PC/Linux or some Box to run TVMOBILI on your box and have it index the NAS instead of the built in NAS Dlna... it is better Dlna server and supports MKV without transcode... and also supports AllShare (Samsung TV protocol) so you can just use your Samsung TV as your player instead of WDHDTV player... I have all 5 things running now and I have many options in my media arsenal
Sent from my MB860 using XDA
sublimejosh2000 said:
I suggest as I do... "bubble upnp" app on your Archos to controlled it all
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks like the kind of app I'm looking for. Thank you Josh.
I do NOT want anything but music, for I 've banned TV and internet from the living room. (TV and net have dedicated place). I don't want to set up a LinuxBox either (I'll probably do that for the HDTV in another place, but one thing at a time).
So the questions are :
-Would an Archos 7Home be good enougth for that ?
-If yes, is it possible to change the ROM of the Archos 7 home for a homecooked optimized rom ?
-is there somewhere an option (as for Archos9PC) to cradle the archos 7 Home whit a ethernet port (to avoid Wifi) ?
Finally, considering the NAS working along with bubble upnp, is it required to install some soft on the NAS and are there some kind of incompatibility (that's one of the drawback I see with the logitech squeeze box touch)
I like the idea of the All Share Play hub, streaming movies direct to my tv this way via wifi would be worth doing (unlike MHL to HDMI which in addition to the tv and phone requires THREE additional components to be connected, including power adaptor).
What I don't like about it is the proprietory nature of it, and the fact that I have no guarantee it will be compatible with my next phone - especially if that phone isn't a Samsung.
This is a new area of interest for me, so excuse my ignorance, but is there not an open standards type of device that can do this, which will allow me to use any phone with it?
Bump.
While I doubt it's as easy to use (AllShare is specifically geared for sharing media AFAIK - I removed it from my phone so I don't really know what it's like), Samba Filesharing will turn your phone into a SMB server (possible alternative: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.codesector.droidnas). Samba is GPLed, so on the openness front you're covered. I'm not sure what kind of speeds you would get, though, so try the app (it's free) and mount the share on a GNU/Linux computer and see if it works well for you if you're interested. There's a bit of a shift in the way it works: with AllShare, I believe, you initiate the streaming from your phone. With Samba, you share a folder but have to navigate to it from whatever device it is you're attempting to stream to.
Assuming that you are, if you have a hacked Samsung TV, you can then mount the Samba share from it and start browsing. If not, you can buy small Android devices that plug into your TV for cheap prices - and there are, of course, ways to mount a Samba share on an Android device (along with a WIP port of XBMC, which features SMB browsing anyway).
--
I was high on something. Look into DLNA and using your phone as UPnP Media Server.
Hi, I'm going on vacation soon and since my tablet (10.1) has only a limited amount of space, I was wondering if there is a quick and easy way to transfer files (movies and tv shows, ~700mbs) from my android phone (s3) to the tablet, without the use of the internet, as I might not have any internet connect and I wont be bringing my laptop. Thanks for the help.
wifi direct in the settings menu or try an app called airdroid if you have a wifi router. Using the browser you can via wifi download and upload files
Sent from my GT-P7500 using xda app-developers app
Or get a USB OTG dongle (if your phone supports mass storage).
It can be quite slow, but I've used bluetooth to transfer files as large as 180MB between my phone and galaxy tab before. You could try packaging your files in a zip (use es file explorer or something similar) and then transferring with bluetooth (keep in mind, it can take around 10 mins to copy ~200MB).
Wifi file sender. Make one device a wifi hotspot. Then connect the other and run the app on both devices. You'll know what to do...
Sent from my cm7 - powered Nokia 3210
H2O37 said:
Hi, I'm going on vacation soon and since my tablet (10.1) has only a limited amount of space, I was wondering if there is a quick and easy way to transfer files (movies and tv shows, ~700mbs) from my android phone (s3) to the tablet, without the use of the internet, as I might not have any internet connect and I wont be bringing my laptop. Thanks for the help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I find myself in this situation because I travel pretty frequently abroad and for stays shorter than a month I bring with me only my smartphone (Galaxy Note) and my tablet (G.Tab 10.1" 3G) and there are tons of options:
- Wi-Fi direct. it's built-in in both the G.Tab and the S3 and you don't need internet, routers or cables and it's pretty fast, it's probably the best option for what you need
- free apps like Airdrop or Samsung Kies Air or (the one I use most because has both a browser-based files transfer and an FTP server, I have the paid version) Remote Web Desktop (for these you need a router though)
- an USB OTG adaptor for the G.Tab (AFAIK there is only the original Samsung one) and then connect the S3 as "mass storage device" (check in the settings, on my Note it's under "Wireless and networks"-->"USB settings"-->"Connect as mass storage device". you can also use an USB flash drive to store your movies or even a PC hard disk if it's in a powered external case
- the SD memory card reader adaptor from Samsung. same as the USB adaptor except you connect to it SD cards or microSD cards in an SD size adaptor. you can for example connect to the G.Tab the microSD card from your S3 (since you seem to store whole movies on your S3 I assume you are using also removable memory in it)
- Bluetooth (exactly like Wi-Fi direct except it's way slower)
I personally use all of the above methods, it all depends on what you have to transfer. Apps like Airdroid, Kies Air and Remote Web Desktop I use mainly at home with my PC (I hate using cables so rarely use the Note's and the G.Tab's USB cables with the PC), between my tablet and smartphone for small and few files I use Bluetooth, for big but few files I use Wi-Fi direct, for many files of whatever size I use both the USB OTG and SD card reader adaptors from Samsung (at the time I bought the G.Tab they were sold together with a small discount and they are both useful in slightly different ways).
xdapao3 said:
- an USB OTG adaptor for the G.Tab (AFAIK there is only the original Samsung one) and then connect the S3 as "mass storage device" (check in the settings, on my Note it's under "Wireless and networks"-->"USB settings"-->"Connect as mass storage device". you can also use an USB flash drive to store your movies or even a PC hard disk if it's in a powered external case
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I reckon this is your best bet, especially for speed.
I bought my USB connector for my Tab 10.1 for around £3 off eBay and also the USB connector for my S2 for around £2 from the same place (3 cheers for the 'Bay' ). Easy as pie and is a great help when travelling...
I've bought TWO (one at home other at office) of this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-Conne...uting_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item20c67757be
Perfect!!!
Plus with the cheapest(smaller) card reader :
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-All-I...Readers_RL&hash=item2eb13e7e1e#ht_2399wt_1187
Just think the tablet could bring this interface on stock, but works just fine.
I personally use WiFi Direct for big files like that, not really tried folders or multiple files (I'll give out a go tonight though) but of tone not tried that feature, you should, it's one of those features that I think should be highlighted more by Samsung in my opinion.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
RavenY2K3 said:
it's one of those features that I think should be highlighted more by Samsung in my opinion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think people should RTFM!! :laugh:
Questions go in the Q&A section
For devices that don't have support for USB [OTG or full size] and charging at the same time [Example, Nexus 7], do they have any devices, perhaps bluetooth, or maybe wifi, that you plug in your existing USB hard drive, and you can mount it on your tablet [via bluetooth or wireless], and stream the files like that?
The main purpose would be so you can charge the tablet and access a large hard drive, perhaps for videos, or whatever.
Does anybody make anything like this for Android?
And please do not suggest a "wifi HDD," thanks.
You need to share your HDD over network (using a compatible router or a PC as server) and use any CIFS client for Android (like this).
RoberGalarga said:
You need to share your HDD over network (using a compatible router or a PC as server) and use any CIFS client for Android (like this).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well my router is kinda far away.. and my pc also. :S
Oh... then do you need a portable solution? I dunno about that, but surely the only solution is a WiFi HDD (you can access to your HDD remotely, but you will not can stream files this way I think).
I'm thinking of replacing my car stereo/navi unit with a 7" tablet. I'd like to know if I can use the tablet to access and navigate my phone's music and play it on the tablet so it will play through the car's speaker since my phone has more storage.
I use Team Viewer on my phone and that allows me to control my laptop so I'm looking for something along those lines but that will play the music as well, I guess it would sort of use my phone as an external drive but the tablet would also be tethered to the phone.
Or... can the Galaxy Tab 2 read a 64gb card fine, like my Rezzy does?
Oh, just thought of something else. If I can't take the tablet out of the car dash, I can change out the music on the card using the tethering? I can send load files via wifi, right?
You clearly need a HUD
DIncLover said:
You clearly need a HUD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
?
I would mount the tablet in dash so that would be my HUD. Is that what you mean? Or are you trying to fix me up with Paul Newman?
I want to do what this guy did in his Alpha Romeo: http://dev.mittelmedia.it/2010/12/14/asdas/
The Galaxy Tab 7" is the right size to replace my current HU. So I use the tab to control everything, would have it tethered to my phone for data access, and would like to be able browse and play my phone's music with it. :good:
feralicious said:
?
I would mount the tablet in dash so that would be my HUD. Is that what you mean? Or are you trying to fix me up with Paul Newman?
I want to do what this guy did in his Alpha Romeo: http://dev.mittelmedia.it/2010/12/14/asdas/
The Galaxy Tab 7" is the right size to replace my current HU. So I use the tab to control everything, would have it tethered to my phone for data access, and would like to be able browse and play my phone's music with it. :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you've got an unlimited data plan and a home broadband connection with a dedicated machine at home, set up a Subsonic (or equivalent) server and use the client on your tablet, you'll have access to all of your music...
I use this version for my server - http://forum.subsonic.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10445
It'll run on a variety of OS's.
You can use the modified client in that link or the official ad free one here - http://www.subsonic.org/pages/apps.jsp#android
I was being unhelpfully facetious .... HUD as in Heads Up Display .... visibly superimposed on the windshield as you attempt to keep your eyes on the road......
DIncLover said:
I was being unhelpfully facetious .... HUD as in Heads Up Display .... visibly superimposed on the windshield as you attempt to keep your eyes on the road......
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OIC. I like the Paul Newman plan better IF he's the same age he was in HUD.
mjones73 said:
If you've got an unlimited data plan and a home broadband connection with a dedicated machine at home, set up a Subsonic (or equivalent) server and use the client on your tablet, you'll have access to all of your music...
I use this version for my server - http://forum.subsonic.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10445
It'll run on a variety of OS's.
You can use the modified client in that link or the official ad free one here - http://www.subsonic.org/pages/apps.jsp#android
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ooh... I like your thinking... How powerful does the machine need to be? I have an ooooold box running WinXP, I don't even remember the specs of it, it's been a long time since I booted it up. I suppose I could buy a cheap bare bones system considering the tablet is $400-1400 less than getting an entire new HU with navi.
Or... I'm going to be building a home theater pc that would be on a micro mobo to fit in a case that would be in my AV rack. I would be using that for all my media and it will be hooked up to my whole AV system and home network. Could that be used? Or is that a bad idea?
Or... can I just use a NAS drive that's connected to my router?
feralicious said:
OIC. I like the Paul Newman plan better IF he's the same age he was in HUD.
Ooh... I like your thinking... How powerful does the machine need to be? I have an ooooold box running WinXP, I don't even remember the specs of it, it's been a long time since I booted it up. I suppose I could buy a cheap bare bones system considering the tablet is $400-1400 less than getting an entire new HU with navi.
Or... I'm going to be building a home theater pc that would be on a micro mobo to fit in a case that would be in my AV rack. I would be using that for all my media and it will be hooked up to my whole AV system and home network. Could that be used? Or is that a bad idea?
Or... can I just use a NAS drive that's connected to my router?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It doesn't require a lot of horsepower, I have mine on an old Dell Poweredge SC420 machine thats running Windows Home Server. Personally I'd put it on the home media machine if it's gonna be dedicated and running all the time. You will need to forward the one port needed, I believe it defaults to 4040 but you can set it to anything.
Upload your music to Google Music, tether phone to tablet, stream music on tablet. Would that work?
Or you could use ES file explorer, create Bluetooth link and access the phone through the tablet that way...
Phaded said:
Upload your music to Google Music, tether phone to tablet, stream music on tablet. Would that work?
Or you could use ES file explorer, create Bluetooth link and access the phone through the tablet that way...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a thing against using cloud storage. Comes from my paranoia I suppose.
I just found an article on using ES Explorer to access a shared folder on a pc from your phone/tablet. Will explore your idea as well.