[Q] The EXACT bands of Nexus 9 LTE - Nexus 9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I searched many times of websites on the lte bands of nexus 9 lte, but no, I've not got an exact spec of the lte bands that Nexus 9 LTE supports.
Until now I've got details of it from ht##tp://ww##w.bh##photovideo.c##om/c/product/1087410-REG/htc_99hzj002_00_nexus_9_volantis_32gb.html which the bands are
2.5G (EDGE, GSM/GPRS) MHz:850, 900, 1800, 1900
3.5G (HSPA+, UMTS/WCDMA) MHz:850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100
3.5G (CDMA2000, EV-DO) MHz:850, 1900
4G (LTE) Bands:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 19, 25, 26, 41
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Now I'm sure whether this is right, are they the exact bands of Nexus 9 LTE?
I've got a Nexus 9 LTE from US to China, all three carriers have deployed either TDD-LTE or FDD-LTE, so I'm wondering whether I can use the LTE network with Nexus 9 LTE in China.
According to the specs above, it seems that it would work at TDD-LTE band 41 which China Mobile supplies, but I only got an EDGE with the 4G-SIM card inserted.
However China Unicom gives FDD-LTE band 3 network and China Telecom gives FDD-LTE band 1 network. Only lack of experiments.

The supported bands might be different depending on where the device is bought.

From the HTC site: http://www.htc.com/us/tablets/nexus-9/
Network (see note below)
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - WCDMA:
850/900/AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
4G - LTE:
Bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,20
NOTE: Network bands in regions may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location. 4G LTE only available in select countries. Upload and download speeds also depend on the mobile operator.
Built-in memory and connectivity vary by model. Wi-Fi only Nexus 9 features 16GB memory, and LTE Nexus 9 model features 32GB. Please see your local carrier for complete details.

data point for you: i have t-mobile spec nexus 9 bought in us. in hong kong a csl sim shows lte data status. speedtest showed 20mbit up and 20mbit down so i think its working fine. csl web site said bands 3 and 7 iirc.
csl web site: https://www.hkcsl.com/en/index.html

I actually clicked more than one website to bring you this info.
CZ Eddie said:
Looks like it's back in stock at store.htc.com for $359 for the LTE.
http://store.htc.com/store?Action=C...104_G - US - NAM - HTC - PS - Tablet - B&Ps=1
So from my Internet searching, here are the differences between the Nexus 9 LTE International vs. the USA device.
Nexus 9 Part# 0P82200 (EU/ASIA) handles LTE bands 1,2,3 ,4,5,7,8, 20
Nexus 9 Part# 0P82300 (US) handlesLTE bands 2, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 41
What does this mean to us in the USA?
It means that if you buy the USA Nexus 9 then you're good to go for all USA major carriers.
But if you buy the International Nexus 9, then you're hurting yourself as follows:
Verizon missing band 13 (which it uses for most of its LTE).
AT&T missing band 17.
T-Mobile missing band 12.
Sprint missing all LTE bands.
US Cellular missing band 12.
Here is a list of what USA carriers use which bands:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/0...sm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/
Oddly enough, the HTC USA website indicates that the Nexus 9 LTE it sells is capable of only the International bands listed above.
So I called HTC @ 866 449 8358 on 12/26/2015 @ 12:30PM CST and spoke with "Daniel" who advised that if I'm in the USA and purchase from the USA HTC website, then I will be shipped the USA version of this tablet.
Price$359.00
Shipping$0.00
Tax$29.65
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Total$389.05
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[Q] Intl vs ATT version?

I live in the California AT&T service area. I have been trying to find out the 4G and LTE bands on the intl and ATT Versions. If I buy the intl version will it be compatible with AT&T LTE bands? Ideally I would like to buy the intl version so that I can get the OS updates when Samsung releases them without waiting the extra time for AT&T to release the upgrade. I also dont want the AT&T bloatware.
gravyplaya said:
I live in the California AT&T service area. I have been trying to find out the 4G and LTE bands on the intl and ATT Versions. If I buy the intl version will it be compatible with AT&T LTE bands? Ideally I would like to buy the intl version so that I can get the OS updates when Samsung releases them without waiting the extra time for AT&T to release the upgrade. I also dont want the AT&T bloatware.
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International variant, as long as it supports the LTE bands. I even converted my M8 into Developer Edition because I disliked the bloatware from AT&T and because OTAS take soooo long to appear with AT&T branded devices.
Does anyone know if the intl version supports att lte?
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I'm thinking about doing the same thing and buying the international variant. I have a Moto X Pure Edition, and I love not having carrier bloatware.
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Does anyone know whether the radios for AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon and international version are different, such as with the LG G3? Normally gsmarena has info on the frequencies, but nothing is on there yet. Thanks
The unlocked international version supports the following AT&T LTE frequency/bands:
850/5
1900/2
The following are all of AT&T frequency/bands:
700/12,17
850/5
1700,2100/4
1900/2
I do not know if the model specific and locked to ATT supports all of their bands or remains identical to the international unlocked version. I do know different bands can be activated via firm ware update, like Moto did with the 2nd gen Moto X. The pure edition got updated to support all of ATT bands instead of just a couple.
From the T-mobile website for the Galaxy S6 Edge:
Quad Band GSM;
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17;
UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850), Band VIII (900)
From the AT&T site for the Galaxy S6 Edge:
4G-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 29 and 30
3G - UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
So the AT&T version seems to cover more bases in terms of LTE coverage e.g. for those wanting LTE coverage in the UK too, the T-mobile version will work on 3 (3) and EE (3 and 7), whereas the AT&T version will work on 3 (3), EE (3 and 7), O2 (20) and Vodafone (20) [LTE bands shown in brackets]
holtenc said:
The unlocked international version supports the following AT&T LTE frequency/bands:
850/5
1900/2
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Hey, do you have any link to the specs for the Unlocked International model? Cant find one myself!
Thanks
Pito
Where does one even order an international variant? I cannot find one anywhere?
Pure+ said:
Where does one even order an international variant? I cannot find one anywhere?
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http://www.clove.co.uk/
http://www.expansys.com/
Typically from UK but there are from other places too.
Pito
thanks, but i need to buy in US
Pure+ said:
thanks, but i need to buy in US
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You can buy from
http://www.expansys-usa.com/
The International Unlocked version is a UK version that is Sim Unlocked and not attached to any carrier (no bloat and no carrier branding). You can't buy a US version unlocked anywhere in the US. Even the stores in the US that sell unlocked International versions are selling the UK one.
Pito
mp2ning said:
Hey, do you have any link to the specs for the Unlocked International model? Cant find one myself!
Thanks
Pito
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http://www.mobicity.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-32gb-4g-lte.html#.VRm74_nF-LE
click the specs tab
Final official answer
I just called an ATT tech and he told me that while I could get the UK/intl version IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH ATT LTE. BUT since not all the bands are supported the intl version will have limited LTE coverage in the US.
For example the intl version only supports 2 of the 4 bands in the US. (Bands 2 and 5, when bands 2, 4, 5, 17 are available). So if the towers near your house are only using bands 2 and 4 you'll get less coverage/signal as if the towers near your house supported more bands.
What? T-Mobile version doesn't support band 12 LTE?
gravyplaya said:
I just called an ATT tech and he told me that while I could get the UK/intl version IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH ATT LTE. BUT since not all the bands are supported the intl version will have limited LTE coverage in the US.
For example the intl version only supports 2 of the 4 bands in the US. (Bands 2 and 5, when bands 2, 4, 5, 17 are available). So if the towers near your house are only using bands 2 and 4 you'll get less coverage/signal as if the towers near your house supported more bands.
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Hmmm... That's interesting because looking at the "Tech Specs" section for the Galaxy S6, as listed for ordering directly from Samsung in the UK, the Galaxy S6 appears to have support for all of the LTE and UMTS bands that are used by AT&T, here in the States:
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/android/SM-G920FZKABTU
This info is listed on the above link for the Galaxy S6 (model SM-G920F), but (oddly) not for the Edge (SM-G925F) model. It shows the following bands as being supported:
2G GSM
GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS
B1(2100), B2(1900), B5(850), B8(900)
4G FDD LTE
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B26(800)
Unless there's something different about these bands due to the preceding "B" designation before the band number, it looks like the UK version should support LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17, which is what AT&T are supposed to be using here in the States...
Not sure why Samsung doesn't list the "Tech Specs" on this site for the Edge model, but I would presume and hope they are identical to the Galaxy S6 SM-G920F model they list on their UK site.
Anyone have further details or insight into this? Hopefully I'm not misreading something and spreading erroneous info here!
mp2ning said:
Hey, do you have any link to the specs for the Unlocked International model? Cant find one myself!
Thanks
Pito
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Here is a link to Samsung UK and the specs for the international S6 version SM-G920F.
gravyplaya said:
I just called an ATT tech and he told me that while I could get the UK/intl version IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH ATT LTE. BUT since not all the bands are supported the intl version will have limited LTE coverage in the US.
For example the intl version only supports 2 of the 4 bands in the US. (Bands 2 and 5, when bands 2, 4, 5, 17 are available). So if the towers near your house are only using bands 2 and 4 you'll get less coverage/signal as if the towers near your house supported more bands.
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That doesn't sound right based on what I've read. This page says what AT&T uses:
"AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands but it all depends on area if they own a license. LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently"
Then according to this page the SM-G920F version in the UK does support LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17. This page (pdadb.net) here seems to show that the SM-G920I also supports those LTE bands. Then in comments on Android Central this page gravage says he owns a G920I and it works without a hitch.
Thoughts? I'm looking into getting the international version as well so I can avoid AT&T's crap.
sbrown23 said:
That doesn't sound right based on what I've read. This page says what AT&T uses:
"AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands but it all depends on area if they own a license. LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently"
Then according to this page the SM-G920F version in the UK does support LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17. This page (pdadb.net) here seems to show that the SM-G920I also supports those LTE bands. Then in comments on Android Central this page gravage says he owns a G920I and it works without a hitch.
Thoughts? I'm looking into getting the international version as well so I can avoid AT&T's crap.
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I live in Mexico but AT&T's variant is the American version with most compatibility in both Mexico & US so I decided to buy that one and just converted it to Developer Edition. So now I have full connectivity without AT&T bloatware and quick OTAs. Hope it helps.

Nexus 9 LTE version - does LTE band 20 (or 8) actually work?

According to the HTC websites the supported LTE bands of Nexus 9 LTE version are: Bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,20
But when testing where only band 20 is available (using the Telia operator in Sweden) it only gets 3G. If I try the same SIM-card in my Galaxy S4 i9505 I get full signal strength of LTE/4G on band 20 (verified using the service menu).
I also tried the Tele2 operator which actually showed LTE service, but from using it in my S4 again it seems that band 7 was the strongest band in that place. When I tried Tele2 in another place which should have LTE coverage on at least band 8 and possibly band 20 it again showed 3G... (I didn't try it in the S4 as I didn't bring all the tools and adapters to use the annoying NanoSIM standard).
So does band 8 and band 20 actually work on Nexus 9? Otherwise it's going back to the shop because the lacking 4G support is not acceptable.

Bands of Honor 9 (Europe)

Hi, i'm about to buy the Honor 9, but I have a problem. I will buy it in Amazon (Europe) and ship it to my country (Argentina) that uses this bands:
2G (EDGE, GSM/GPRS): Bands 850 / 1900 MHz
3G (HSPA+, UMTS/WCDMA): Bands 850 / 1900 MHz
4G (LTE): Bands 4 (AWS o 1700) / 7 (2600) / 28 (APT o 700*)
(the most important band is the B4 AWS, the others are not that important)
And I searched on google and I found differences, some places say it has the b4 band(frequencycheck.com,phonedb.net), others say no (gsmarena)
Amazon says its the model 51091SNW, but assume is the STF-L09 version
So I need your help, if anyone of you has bought this phone in Europe and wants to confirm if it has the band that I need, I would be grateful. Otherwise, I'll have to choose another phone because a phone without 4g nowadays it's not good
Thanks in Advance!!!
I checked the price comparison I usually use and which is usually pretty well informed (this is their English page, the company behind it is originally from Austria):
Frequency bands: GSM (850/​900/​1800/​1900), UMTS (850/​900/​1900/​2100), LTE (B1/​B3/​B5/​B7/​B8/​B20)
https://skinflint.co.uk/a1638115.html
Same info from my go-to review site (translated from a German review):
Networking: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac (a/b/g/n/ac), Bluetooth 4.2, GSM 850/​900/​1800/​1900, UMTS B1/B2/B5/B8, LTE B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20, Dual SIM, LTE, GPS
https://www.notebookcheck.net/243422.0.html
Both is for the STF-L09, which is sold throughout Europe, so I guess it doesn't matter that both have their info from devices from Germany...
It seems to lack Band 4, and according to gsm arena it does so for all Honor 9 models available

US version missing US LTE bands?

Just chatted with Nokia support, and the rep states that the US model has the same LTE bands as the European version. The bands listed are as follows:
LTE: Band 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41 (Full band 41)
If that's the case, most carriers in the US would not be supported. Any of you hear different? It would make no sense for Nokia to ship out a new device to the States if something as basic as LTE bands isn't properly supported.
YayILikePie said:
Just chatted with Nokia support, and the rep states that the US model has the same LTE bands as the European version. The bands listed are as follows:
LTE: Band 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41 (Full band 41)
If that's the case, most carriers in the US would not be supported. Any of you hear different? It would make no sense for Nokia to ship out a new device to the States if something as basic as LTE bands isn't properly supported.
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yeah if thats the case this is a turd in the USA
YayILikePie said:
Just chatted with Nokia support, and the rep states that the US model has the same LTE bands as the European version. The bands listed are as follows:
LTE: Band 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41 (Full band 41)
If that's the case, most carriers in the US would not be supported. Any of you hear different? It would make no sense for Nokia to ship out a new device to the States if something as basic as LTE bands isn't properly supported.
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According to the B&H Photo preorder page
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 28, 38, 40, 66 Bands
lensgrabber said:
According to the B&H Photo preorder page
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 28, 38, 40, 66 Bands
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Here's hoping. That would make much more sense. I'll reach out to Nokia again to clarify, cause it would make no sense whatever to not have proper LTE support. I'm assuming I got bad info considering the phone was just announced.
Still missing 29/30 for AT&T which is odd because they're not that new like band 71 for T-Mobile.
YayILikePie said:
Just chatted with Nokia support, and the rep states that the US model has the same LTE bands as the European version. The bands listed are as follows:
LTE: Band 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41 (Full band 41)
If that's the case, most carriers in the US would not be supported. Any of you hear different? It would make no sense for Nokia to ship out a new device to the States if something as basic as LTE bands isn't properly supported.
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I had a chat with a Nokia rep about this and she posted this for me. It seems to agree with the bands listed on the B&H site.
Its seems only in US we have the 4GB/64 GB variant. If I buy from US, can I use the phone in UK & India?
Does anyone have info if the US version supports VOLTE (Tmobile and it's mvno's specifically). B&H does not list it in the specs (unless i missed it?)
roadrunner4spd said:
Does anyone have info if the US version supports VOLTE (Tmobile and it's mvno's specifically). B&H does not list it in the specs (unless i missed it?)
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I'm on AT&T and have "Enhanced LTE" and WiFi Calling. I can enable both but WiFi calling doesn't work because AT&T won't allow it on a prepaid plan. I don't see why it wouldn't work on TMO but I don't know for sure.
I am using it on T-Mobile and haveVoTe and VoWifi. The phone only shows 4G and does not show LTE. In the settings where you can choose the highest band to connect I only see 2G, 3G and 4G (with 4G being selected). I occasionally see 4G+. Can someone confirm if 4G is indeed LTE?
I am on ATT and am only getting 4G or H+ Icon and my download speeds peak at 4.5 Mbps. I was on the phone with ATT and we reset and recreated the Access Point Names with no luck. I also got a new SIM card with no luck either.
I think the phone is going back...
There is a difference, what you want to be seeing is "LTE" being displayed in your status bar *during* your data connections as it is faster than 4G. As for VOLTE merely seeing that as an option in your settings does not mean your calls are going to be Voice over LTE. What you want to see is "LTE" being displayed in your status bar *during* phone calls.
Unless you see someone posting an actual screenshot of LTE displaying in the status bar during data connections and unless you see someone posting an actual screenshot of LTE displaying in the status bar during a phone call you do not know if that phone has LTE capability on their particular carrier. Too many times we see people declaring that their phone has VOLTE (phone calls) or LTE (data connection) because they discovered there is an option to enable it in their settings. Their carrier has to actually be producing it which is only verifiable by screenshots. Hope that helps.
Here is the short explanation...
https://www.csmonitor.com/Technology/Tech/2012/0430/4G-LTE-What-s-the-difference
and here is a longer one https://www.tccrocks.com/blog/what-is-difference-between-4g-and-4g-lte/
Screen cap while not on a call, TMobile in Denver.
Sorry, can't add another screen cap... Here's one on a call.
lanrover said:
I am using it on T-Mobile and haveVoTe and VoWifi. The phone only shows 4G and does not show LTE. In the settings where you can choose the highest band to connect I only see 2G, 3G and 4G (with 4G being selected). I occasionally see 4G+. Can someone confirm if 4G is indeed LTE?
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volte - voice over lte. I do not own this devive but I have to assume 4G is LTE. you can download LTE discovery from google play and check with that app.
I was having the same issue with AT&T after getting the Nokia 7.1 and a new nano sim card (no LTE data). Good news (in a roundabout way), after updating to Pie this morning I was getting no data at all, called AT&T and now the network actually recognizes the phone manufacturer as HMD global and they had the option to attach LTE to my plan. So, give it another shot with AT&T customer service.
I'm on ATT. My phone was only indicated 4G (no LTE) until I updated the APN settings. I used ATTs recommended settings for LTE and now I am showing LTE in the status bar.

General Incorrect information on bands.

I didn't expect this phone to have 4 and 12 which is Tmobile but it was able to connect to it. It does say on specs that it has Band 41.
I use the LTE Discovery and I'm very surprise to see those bands being connected.
On North American version of redmagic website it says 1, 3, 7, 8, 20 and 28.
Tmobile 4g lte uses 2,4,5, 12 and 71 and 5g uses 41.

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