[Q] Intl vs ATT version? - Galaxy S6 Edge Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I live in the California AT&T service area. I have been trying to find out the 4G and LTE bands on the intl and ATT Versions. If I buy the intl version will it be compatible with AT&T LTE bands? Ideally I would like to buy the intl version so that I can get the OS updates when Samsung releases them without waiting the extra time for AT&T to release the upgrade. I also dont want the AT&T bloatware.

gravyplaya said:
I live in the California AT&T service area. I have been trying to find out the 4G and LTE bands on the intl and ATT Versions. If I buy the intl version will it be compatible with AT&T LTE bands? Ideally I would like to buy the intl version so that I can get the OS updates when Samsung releases them without waiting the extra time for AT&T to release the upgrade. I also dont want the AT&T bloatware.
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International variant, as long as it supports the LTE bands. I even converted my M8 into Developer Edition because I disliked the bloatware from AT&T and because OTAS take soooo long to appear with AT&T branded devices.

Does anyone know if the intl version supports att lte?
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I'm thinking about doing the same thing and buying the international variant. I have a Moto X Pure Edition, and I love not having carrier bloatware.
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Does anyone know whether the radios for AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon and international version are different, such as with the LG G3? Normally gsmarena has info on the frequencies, but nothing is on there yet. Thanks

The unlocked international version supports the following AT&T LTE frequency/bands:
850/5
1900/2
The following are all of AT&T frequency/bands:
700/12,17
850/5
1700,2100/4
1900/2
I do not know if the model specific and locked to ATT supports all of their bands or remains identical to the international unlocked version. I do know different bands can be activated via firm ware update, like Moto did with the 2nd gen Moto X. The pure edition got updated to support all of ATT bands instead of just a couple.

From the T-mobile website for the Galaxy S6 Edge:
Quad Band GSM;
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17;
UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850), Band VIII (900)
From the AT&T site for the Galaxy S6 Edge:
4G-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 29 and 30
3G - UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
So the AT&T version seems to cover more bases in terms of LTE coverage e.g. for those wanting LTE coverage in the UK too, the T-mobile version will work on 3 (3) and EE (3 and 7), whereas the AT&T version will work on 3 (3), EE (3 and 7), O2 (20) and Vodafone (20) [LTE bands shown in brackets]

holtenc said:
The unlocked international version supports the following AT&T LTE frequency/bands:
850/5
1900/2
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Hey, do you have any link to the specs for the Unlocked International model? Cant find one myself!
Thanks
Pito

Where does one even order an international variant? I cannot find one anywhere?

Pure+ said:
Where does one even order an international variant? I cannot find one anywhere?
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http://www.clove.co.uk/
http://www.expansys.com/
Typically from UK but there are from other places too.
Pito

thanks, but i need to buy in US

Pure+ said:
thanks, but i need to buy in US
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You can buy from
http://www.expansys-usa.com/
The International Unlocked version is a UK version that is Sim Unlocked and not attached to any carrier (no bloat and no carrier branding). You can't buy a US version unlocked anywhere in the US. Even the stores in the US that sell unlocked International versions are selling the UK one.
Pito

mp2ning said:
Hey, do you have any link to the specs for the Unlocked International model? Cant find one myself!
Thanks
Pito
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http://www.mobicity.com/samsung-galaxy-s6-edge-32gb-4g-lte.html#.VRm74_nF-LE
click the specs tab

Final official answer
I just called an ATT tech and he told me that while I could get the UK/intl version IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH ATT LTE. BUT since not all the bands are supported the intl version will have limited LTE coverage in the US.
For example the intl version only supports 2 of the 4 bands in the US. (Bands 2 and 5, when bands 2, 4, 5, 17 are available). So if the towers near your house are only using bands 2 and 4 you'll get less coverage/signal as if the towers near your house supported more bands.

What? T-Mobile version doesn't support band 12 LTE?

gravyplaya said:
I just called an ATT tech and he told me that while I could get the UK/intl version IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH ATT LTE. BUT since not all the bands are supported the intl version will have limited LTE coverage in the US.
For example the intl version only supports 2 of the 4 bands in the US. (Bands 2 and 5, when bands 2, 4, 5, 17 are available). So if the towers near your house are only using bands 2 and 4 you'll get less coverage/signal as if the towers near your house supported more bands.
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Hmmm... That's interesting because looking at the "Tech Specs" section for the Galaxy S6, as listed for ordering directly from Samsung in the UK, the Galaxy S6 appears to have support for all of the LTE and UMTS bands that are used by AT&T, here in the States:
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/android/SM-G920FZKABTU
This info is listed on the above link for the Galaxy S6 (model SM-G920F), but (oddly) not for the Edge (SM-G925F) model. It shows the following bands as being supported:
2G GSM
GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS
B1(2100), B2(1900), B5(850), B8(900)
4G FDD LTE
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B26(800)
Unless there's something different about these bands due to the preceding "B" designation before the band number, it looks like the UK version should support LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17, which is what AT&T are supposed to be using here in the States...
Not sure why Samsung doesn't list the "Tech Specs" on this site for the Edge model, but I would presume and hope they are identical to the Galaxy S6 SM-G920F model they list on their UK site.
Anyone have further details or insight into this? Hopefully I'm not misreading something and spreading erroneous info here!

mp2ning said:
Hey, do you have any link to the specs for the Unlocked International model? Cant find one myself!
Thanks
Pito
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Here is a link to Samsung UK and the specs for the international S6 version SM-G920F.

gravyplaya said:
I just called an ATT tech and he told me that while I could get the UK/intl version IT WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH ATT LTE. BUT since not all the bands are supported the intl version will have limited LTE coverage in the US.
For example the intl version only supports 2 of the 4 bands in the US. (Bands 2 and 5, when bands 2, 4, 5, 17 are available). So if the towers near your house are only using bands 2 and 4 you'll get less coverage/signal as if the towers near your house supported more bands.
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That doesn't sound right based on what I've read. This page says what AT&T uses:
"AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands but it all depends on area if they own a license. LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently"
Then according to this page the SM-G920F version in the UK does support LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17. This page (pdadb.net) here seems to show that the SM-G920I also supports those LTE bands. Then in comments on Android Central this page gravage says he owns a G920I and it works without a hitch.
Thoughts? I'm looking into getting the international version as well so I can avoid AT&T's crap.

sbrown23 said:
That doesn't sound right based on what I've read. This page says what AT&T uses:
"AT&T 4G HSPA and HSPA+ use 850Mhz(Band 5) and 1900Mhz(Band 2) bands but it all depends on area if they own a license. LTE uses Band 17(700Mhz), Band 5(850Mhz), Band 2(1900Mhz), Band 4(1700/2100Mhz) currently"
Then according to this page the SM-G920F version in the UK does support LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17. This page (pdadb.net) here seems to show that the SM-G920I also supports those LTE bands. Then in comments on Android Central this page gravage says he owns a G920I and it works without a hitch.
Thoughts? I'm looking into getting the international version as well so I can avoid AT&T's crap.
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I live in Mexico but AT&T's variant is the American version with most compatibility in both Mexico & US so I decided to buy that one and just converted it to Developer Edition. So now I have full connectivity without AT&T bloatware and quick OTAs. Hope it helps.

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AT&T LTE bands vs. Developer Edition LTE bands

So since AT&T uses bands 4 & 17 for LTE (700/1700/2100MHz) and according to the Developers edition has 700/850/1900MHz then to me that looks like the Developers edition can only access AT&Ts 700 LTE bands.
Is this correct?
Seems to be correct.. but im not a expert when it comes to network bands
Red5 said:
So since AT&T uses bands 4 & 17 for LTE (700/1700/2100MHz) and according to the Developers edition has 700/850/1900MHz then to me that looks like the Developers edition can only access AT&Ts 700 LTE bands.
Is this correct?
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The Developers Edition page shows the following: LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
This would mean it supports 700, 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100. AWS refers to Band 4, which is 1700 for uplink and 2100 for downlink. Unless something in AT&T's white sheet is missing, the Developer's edition supports two extra bands that are used in some European and Asian countries.
TRF-Inferno said:
The Developers Edition page shows the following: LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
This would mean it supports 700, 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100. AWS refers to Band 4, which is 1700 for uplink and 2100 for downlink. Unless something in AT&T's white sheet is missing, the Developer's edition supports two extra bands that are used in some European and Asian countries.
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Ah, that clears it up for me. Thanks.
TRF-Inferno said:
The Developers Edition page shows the following: LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
This would mean it supports 700, 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100. AWS refers to Band 4, which is 1700 for uplink and 2100 for downlink. Unless something in AT&T's white sheet is missing, the Developer's edition supports two extra bands that are used in some European and Asian countries.
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Finally someone can give me a sensible answer! :thumbup:I read from another thread that T-mobile LTE works on AWS 1700/2100 but the unlocked new one does not have the two frequencies in LTE. Apparently, that was a wrong info. I am going to move to DC and hopefully my dev. new one will work on T-mobile LTE in DC.
Be Vegan, Make Peace \(^o^)/
Because it's radio supports these extra bands, will there be any software incompatibility between the Dev edition and the AT&T one? I'm trying to find the proper forum for Dev edition development!
Is the Developer edition basically an AT&T One with extra bands enabled? Are the AT&T and Dev editions different model numbers? I have so many questions, but so much excitement...
peachlai said:
Finally someone can give me a sensible answer! :thumbup:I read from another thread that T-mobile LTE works on AWS 1700/2100 but the unlocked new one does not have the two frequencies in LTE. Apparently, that was a wrong info. I am going to move to DC and hopefully my dev. new one will work on T-mobile LTE in DC.
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T-Mobile's LTE frequency is on Band 4, so as far as using the Developers Edition on T-Mobile USA, you will certainly get LTE as long as T-Mobile has it running in the area, and default to 3G/HSPA+ since it does support PCS band (1900 MHz), albeit this coverage may suffer as the phone is missing the AWS band for UMTS.
gridlock489 said:
Because it's radio supports these extra bands, will there be any software incompatibility between the Dev edition and the AT&T one? I'm trying to find the proper forum for Dev edition development!
Is the Developer edition basically an AT&T One with extra bands enabled? Are the AT&T and Dev editions different model numbers? I have so many questions, but so much excitement...
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Their device identifier code will certainly be different, so HTC will make sure you can't run the Developer Edition's RUU for the AT&T phone. As far as custom ROM is concerned, I don't see why you can't use the same ROM as long as it's not touching any other partition other than the /system.
TRF-Inferno said:
T-Mobile's LTE frequency is on Band 4, so as far as using the Developers Edition on T-Mobile USA, you will certainly get LTE as long as T-Mobile has it running in the area, and default to 3G/HSPA+ since it does support PCS band (1900 MHz), albeit this coverage may suffer as the phone is missing the AWS band for UMTS.
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Yes... I hope I won't travel around next year and will stay in DC most of the time. I am currently using Straight Talk with my Droid DNA, and it has good coverage, hspa+ most of the time. But Straight Talk does not have LTE. I am so ready to feel the speed of LTE! But it seems like if I would be outside of DC, my LTE experience will drop to 2G.... Anyway, at least I have the freedom to change back to Straight Talk if I have to.
Be Vegan, Make Peace \(^o^)/
peachlai said:
Yes... I hope I won't travel around next year and will stay in DC most of the time. I am currently using Straight Talk with my Droid DNA, and it has good coverage, hspa+ most of the time. But Straight Talk does not have LTE. I am so ready to feel the speed of LTE! But it seems like if I would be outside of DC, my LTE experience will drop to 2G.... Anyway, at least I have the freedom to change back to Straight Talk if I have to.
Be Vegan, Make Peace \(^o^)/
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I had straight talk before I went to att. The difference is mind blowing. Even on just h+ it blows straight talk out of the water 3 fold. I don't regret leaving straight talk one bit
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Verizon Samsung S4 Bands and frequency

Does anyone one know the exact details on the verizon model, regarding what frequencies and bands it supports.
Does the GS4 come unlocked from verizon, do you need to call and get it unlocked. I bought mine for the full price.
Under settings>mobile networks: it has an option for global & GSM mode. I wonder what GSM frequencies it support.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=6754
Go to the specs tab and look under Specifications then Network. It tells you all the bands it supports etc.
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Verizon Galaxy s4 will not switch to band 4 LTE. I think verizon will release a firmware update to enable band 4 LTE

can it be unlocked ??

someone is selling me an unlocked verizon g3 , will this work with ATT network including the LTE signal ? I thought there is currently no unlock for verizon g3? Can someone enlighten me this?
mywingtophone said:
someone is selling me an unlocked verizon g3 , will this work with ATT network including the LTE signal ? I thought there is currently no unlock for verizon g3? Can someone enlighten me this?
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When most people say "unlocked" concerning phones, they mean carrier unlocked, not that the phone has an unlocked bootloader. You are correct in that there is currently no bootloader unlock the Verizon G3, but all Verizon LTE phones are carrier unlocked as per their deal with the FCC.
All the GSM bands on AT&T are supported, but not all LTE bands. LTE band 4 is supported, because that's same band as the 700mhz AWS spectrum Verizon bought (and is now advertising as "XLTE"). I wouldn't know how to tell or if you even can tell what band(s) of LTE that AT&T is using in your areas.
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When most people say "unlocked" concerning phones, they mean carrier unlocked, not that the phone has an unlocked bootloader. You are correct in that there is currently no bootloader unlock the Verizon G3, but all Verizon LTE phones are carrier unlocked as per their deal with the FCC.
All the GSM bands on AT&T are supported, but not all LTE bands. LTE band 4 is supported, because that's same band as the 700mhz AWS spectrum Verizon bought (and is now advertising as "XLTE"). I wouldn't know how to tell or if you even can tell what band(s) of LTE that AT&T is using in your areas.
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heres the bands used by ATT can u please tell me if its compatible with verizon ? Thanks
4G-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17, and 29
4G HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
UMTS/HSPA+ 850/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
mywingtophone said:
heres the bands used by ATT can u please tell me if its compatible with verizon ? Thanks
4G-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17, and 29
4G HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
UMTS/HSPA+ 850/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
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2,4,5,7,17 according to an article about LG posting the D850 to the FCC.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Two-possible-LG-G3-variants-appear-at-the-FCC_id56298

[Q] Buying the Edge in South Korea for UK use, worth it?

So my wife is thinking of flying home for a few weeks next month.
If it turned out cheaper to buy the Gold 64Gb Edge in Korea (which it most probably will be), would it work exactly the same as buying one in the UK. There're no different chip variants for different markets are there?
Also warranty shouldn't be a problem, since there are Samsung Repair centres in the UK anyway, right?
Found out the price...s6 edge 64gb ₩978,000 */ *597pounds
So much cheaper in Korea than England
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Barff1984 said:
Found out the price...s6 edge 64gb ₩978,000 */ *597pounds
So much cheaper in Korea than England
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Well, there are different bands of course. If they all work on your carrier and the other variant is cheaper, then you should give it a try. Korean variants tend to have different things from the international ones. LG G2 from Korea has an antenna so you can watch TV, for example, while international variants don't.
Honestly I don't know if this kind of differences exist between these versions, but as long as I know, some manufacturers if not all, only support the warranty in the country in which it was legally acquired. Maybe in the EU this don't happen, but it did happen to me when I bought a T-Mobile device in the US and I had no support in Mexico for it.
Barff1984 said:
So my wife is thinking of flying home for a few weeks next month.
If it turned out cheaper to buy the Gold 64Gb Edge in Korea (which it most probably will be), would it work exactly the same as buying one in the UK. There're no different chip variants for different markets are there?
Also warranty shouldn't be a problem, since there are Samsung Repair centres in the UK anyway, right?
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Who's your carrier in the UK? Check the bands and see what US variant supports that band. I take it you're with a GSM carrier in the UK?
iunlock said:
Who's your carrier in the UK? Check the bands and see what US variant supports that band. I take it you're with a GSM carrier in the UK?
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I'm with Three Mobile, they use these bands.
2100MHz UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+/DC-HSPA+ 3G
800MHz LTE (planned)[55] 4G
1800MHz LTE[56] 4G
There is only a Band difference
or a Spec difference in the phone also ?
Thanks
The Korean version might have dmb player, but that's usually all.
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Barff1984 said:
I'm with Three Mobile, they use these bands.
2100MHz UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+/DC-HSPA+ 3G
800MHz LTE (planned)[55] 4G
1800MHz LTE[56] 4G
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Here are the supported bands of the T-Mobile variant:
Quad Band GSM; LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17; UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850), Band VIII (900)
Therefore, everything should work except the 1800MHz band....
Why would I need to know tmob bands, I'm not getting it in America and I'm not with tmob uk.
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H850 on Verizon??

There were rumors that this phone has CDMA bands like a few other unlocked phones (Nexus 6/5X/6P, iPhone 6/6+/6S/6S+, Moto X Pure). I haven't heard any other news about it lately.
Has anyone tried this phone on Verizon? Or maybe even a T-Mo variant (doubt it has CDMA bands)? I can't use the Verizon variant with no root.
joshw0000 said:
There were rumors that this phone has CDMA bands like a few other unlocked phones (Nexus 6/5X/6P, iPhone 6/6+/6S/6S+, Moto X Pure). I haven't heard any other news about it lately.
Has anyone tried this phone on Verizon? Or maybe even a T-Mo variant (doubt it has CDMA bands)? I can't use the Verizon variant with no root.
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Based on what I can see here: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=5094
You would not have LTE at all using the international or T-Mobile version as the Verizon LTE band (13) isn't supported in versions other than the Verizon G5. You also would not have CDMA 850 or 1900, though it does have WCDMA 2 and 5, which seem to be the same bands.
liquidzoo said:
Based on what I can see here: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=5094
You would not have LTE at all using the international or T-Mobile version as the Verizon LTE band (13) isn't supported in versions other than the Verizon G5. You also would not have CDMA 850 or 1900, though it does have WCDMA 2 and 5, which seem to be the same bands.
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Ok I did a little more digging and I was wrong. It's the RS988 that's supposed to have Verizon bands:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1239314-REG/lg_lgrs988_ausasv_g5_h850_32gb_smartphone.html
I also stumbled across this where someone states they have it working on Verizon:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/help/rs988-varient-recovery-mode-hard-reset-t3383287
I'm going to do a little more digging and see if this model can be bootloader unlocked. I guess I got confused because the B&H link has H850 in it.
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