Hello,I am planning to buy Xperia Z2,but I have a problem.According to my research,ıf I use Cyanogenmod,Carbon Rom(except for stock rom),I cant use Drm Keys on these roms;so,Camera,Voice..etc performances will affect thanks to lack of Drm Keys.İs there any solution for this problem ? Cant we use Drm Keys on custom roms? I am waiting for your opinions,suggestions
downgrade
root
backup TA partition (where your drm keys are)
unlock bootloader
have fun
flash stock firmware
restore TA
enjoy your reinstated warranty
DRM Keys only affect drm dependant content such as PlayStation services and remote play, X-Reality, Some Xperia Apps such as Xperia Lounge VIP
there is nothing affected on custom roms because they dont use DRM content, only stock and stock based roms
Firstly,I am grateful for your help,but I couldnt tell exactly my problem.When I use custom rom,I cant use drm keys;so,drm related programs performance may down.My biggest fear is about camera performance.İn custom roms the quality of pictures taken with the camera are low owing to lack of Drm Keys.When Sony finishes update support,I turn to custom rom.İn custom roms I will encounter with poor camera quality,and this problem overwhelm me. I saw pictures taken with custom rom and stock rom and stock rom's picture quality is quite better. Camera performance is quite significant for me. I hope that I could tell my problem.
artilherio said:
Firstly,I am grateful for your help,but I couldnt tell exactly my problem.When I use custom rom,I cant use drm keys;so,drm related programs performance may down.My biggest fear is about camera performance.İn custom roms the quality of pictures taken with the camera are low owing to lack of Drm Keys.When Sony finishes update support,I turn to custom rom.İn custom roms I will encounter with poor camera quality,and this problem overwhelm me. I saw pictures taken with custom rom and stock rom and stock rom's picture quality is quite better. Camera performance is quite significant for me. I hope that I could tell my problem.
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it honestly only affects stock ROM or stock based.
performance isn't affect at all, camera results are similar.
i mean i an able to create near DSLR results with no difference between Unlocked and Locked boot loader
I cant say how I became happy when I saw you said that similar picture quality between locked and unlocked.I wholeheartedly believe your words ,but I am bit confused.I saw same topic in this forum.They compared to stock and custom rom camera quality and likewise me they were worry about camera performance on custom roms because of lack of Drm Keys.Furthermore,Sony said that unlocking may down camera performance.However I rely on you.Thanks for your assistance
artilherio said:
I cant say how I became happy when I saw you said that similar picture quality between locked and unlocked.I wholeheartedly believe your words ,but I am bit confused.I saw same topic in this forum.They compared to stock and custom rom camera quality and likewise me they were worry about camera performance on custom roms because of lack of Drm Keys.Furthermore,Sony said that unlocking may down camera performance.However I rely on you.Thanks for your assistance
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honnestly X-Reality Never worked for me, it may even be a placebo when i see little difference between UB and LB, there probably isnt any.
i use MultiRom to use Stock 4.4.4, CM11 and CM12 and i have to say Stock 4.4.4 has the best camera quality although CM11 and CM12 not being effected by DRM Content at all
idk why Sony doesnt try protecting their secretes with alternate methods.
I agree with you because according to me sony's method is absurd.When Sony finish update support,I turn to cm,and I will encounter with poor camera quality.This is absolutely quite bad.I found that unlocked's camera quality is quite bad in low light.Except for light low,locked's and unclocked's picture quality are nearly similar.İn addition, Brightness problem may occur in pictures.I learned this problem in unlocked.Thank you again I want to ask another question if you arent busy.I cant decide buy Z2 or Z3 Compact.Z3 Compact has 2 gb ram,so I am confused.Will 2gb ram be sufficient in next 3 years ? I want to use my new phone at least 3 years.Sorry for a great deal of question.
artilherio said:
I agree with you because according to me sony's method is absurd.When Sony finish update support,I turn to cm,and I will encounter with poor camera quality.This is absolutely bull****.I found that unlocked's camera quality is quite bad in low light.Except for light low,locked's and unclocked's picture quality are nearly similar.İn addition, Brightness problem may occur in pictures.I learned this problem in unlocked.Thank you again I want to ask another question if you arent busy.I cant decide buy Z2 or Z3 Compact.Z3 Compact has 2 gb ram,so I am confused.Will 2gb ram be sufficient in next 3 years ? I want to use my new phone at least 3 years.Sorry for a great deal of question.
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Z2 is cheaper and tougher
Z3 is more expencive and weaker but has a tiny tiny bit more battery, better display and not realy much difference in camera.
Thanks for your suggestions.Z3 Compact get a bit higher score in Antutu Z2.However,Ram is more significant for me,and maybe I will prefer Z2
artilherio said:
Thanks for your suggestions.Z3 Compact get a bit higher score in Antutu Z2.However,Ram is more significant for me,and maybe I will prefer Z2
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benchmarks = total nonsense
my Z2 is faster than my freinds brand new Z3 but my benchmark score is far lower
you shouldent care about ram on Linux based OSs, android being Linux based.
Ram's importance arises from my currently phone.I have 512 mb ram phone and I encounter with hard situations;thus, Z2's 3 gb ram attracts me.Actually,I want to prefer Z3 Compact but ram is a problem for me.Except for battery,size and ram they are nearly same Could you use 20mp in Cyanogenmod ?
artilherio said:
Ram's importance arise from my currently phone.I have 512 mb ram phone and I encounter with hard situations;thus, Z2's 3 gb ram alleviates me.Actually,I want to prefer Z3 Compact but ram is a problem for me.Except for battery,size and ram they are nearly same Could you use 20mp in cm ?
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512MB thats a problem but upward of 1GB is none, hence dont care about ram
Anything the phone is capable of can be used in non stockbased custom roms
-In short, yes 20MP can be used in CM Roms
Z2 and Z3 both have 3Gb
Z2 compact has 2GB but its literely enough anways
There is no Z2 Compact,I think you want to say Z3 Compactİn the next 1,2 years,Big Hd Games will need to more ram ,and maybe 2 gb ram will be insufficient.You said that I get same picture quality both locked and unlocked.Do you use Cyanogenmod Camera in Cm or any camera app?
artilherio said:
There is no Z2 Compact,I think you want to say Z3 Compactİn the next 1,2 years,Big Hd Games will need to more ram ,and maybe 2 gb ram will be insufficient.You said that I get same picture quality both locked and unlocked.Do you use Cyanogenmod Camera in Cm or any camera app?
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I use stock rom with stock cam, CM12 and 11 with stock CM camera
Games im not too sure about games
Currently the best graphis games only hit 200-300MB used ram
Finally,you said that both stock's and cyanogenmod's camera performances are similar.İt doesnt matter too much.Am I right?
artilherio said:
Finally,you said that both stock's and cyanogenmod's camera performances are similar.İt doesnt matter too much.Am I right?
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Yup
not much difference at all
Thanks Did you encounter with any problem about sony apps like camera,gallery,walkman...first unlock bootloader and after lock bootloader ?
artilherio said:
Thanks Did you encounter with any problem about sony apps like camera,gallery,walkman...first unlock bootloader and after lock bootloader ?
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No just playstation and PS3/PS4 remote play
Sorry for late reply Also,are you pleased with your front camera ? I have some doubts
artilherio said:
Sorry for late reply Also,are you pleased with your front camera ? I have some doubts
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Front cam isnt so good in low light but i dont bother with vid chat
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Guys i am thinking of coming from Samsung Ace to SE Live with Walkman ...
From what i can see .... its development is going great ...
Can you guys please comment on screen size ... like is it comfortable to use ??
Ace has 3.5 inch n LWW has 3.2 inch..... Shouldnt be much diff. rite ??
Other than that .... its hardware config is WOWOWOWOW.......
So i will be really helpful if you guys can comment about screen size and also some other cons if present ...
Every person is different, so I can't say about screen size.
I am actually playing some games with great quality on my LWW.
The loudspeaker...kicks ass!
About screen quality...the screen resolution is the same, so DPI(pixels/dots per inch) is a bit smaller on LWW.
After some months, LWW will receive Ice Cream Sandwich update, something good.
Now, the bad sides...
Battery. Depends on your usage, but quite weak battery on it, never had more than 2 days on this phone. I usually reloaded battery every night, but I haven't tried to make 2 days without reloading on custom ROM. Why...I have no idea
Can't think more at the moment, will let you know more if I remember.
for me, stronger proc and double ram
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4111&idPhone2=3724
It is far better than ace but well yeah the battery life it's not great I will not change tough
this really depends on how you would use the phone.
but i can definitely say that LwW has a much better performance compared to Ace...
Advantages of LWW over Ace:
1. Extra Loud w/out distortion
2. 720p video recording
3. 4.0 promised ice cream sandwich upgrade
4. 1ghz cpu (200mhz higher than ace, plus Adreno 205 over Adreno 200)
5. 512mb ram (2x ram of ace)
6. Better launcher (in my opinion)
7. Dedicated Camera button
8. Dedicated Walkman Button (editable through root)
9. Higher Pixel Density
Advantages of Ace over LWW:
1. 3.5 inch screen
2. Tougher Screen (Gorilla glass over scratch resistant glass of LWW)
3. A bit higher capacity battery
4. Thinner than LWW
Thanks a lot guys .... and ya about battery ... Ace's battery aint that good either ..... 1 day max ..... or 1 and a half if less usage..... so battery aint a issue .... as long as it passes my college hours successfully............ ....
My last ques ( promise ) : Samsung Ace was able to be restored to original stock firmware ... u know so as to claim warranty again ....by flashing through odin.... everything became stock again ... recovery ..kernel ....etc..
Can same be done with this fone ... ofcourse with different software...
And does it have seperate site for Stock Firmwares like sammobile.com for Samsung ?
prateek_gemini said:
Thanks a lot guys .... and ya about battery ... Ace's battery aint that good either ..... 1 day max ..... or 1 and a half if less usage..... so battery aint a issue .... as long as it passes my college hours successfully............ ....
My last ques ( promise ) : Samsung Ace was able to be restored to original stock firmware ... u know so as to claim warranty again ....by flashing through odin.... everything became stock again ... recovery ..kernel ....etc..
Can same be done with this fone ... ofcourse with different software...
And does it have seperate site for Stock Firmwares like sammobile.com for Samsung ?
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you can flash back to generic stock using wotan server and if you install cwm before changing the kernel you can back up the stock that came with your phone.
mmmm one thing is certain that we forgot to mention the ace is easier to flash and do stuff. my wife has one and well i know it is easier than my lww or at least it is completely different to mod.
yeah.. its easier to flash...just put one file in odin n flash away..... also its roms already include custom kernel.... is that so here also ??
Nope it's not the same, with Sony phones you will need to unlock the bootloader first if you have a branded sim locked phone most certainly you will have to pay to unlock it to be able to flash custom kernels.
Once you have the boot loader unlocked and access to fastboot you need to flash the custom kernel and then from the cwm that comes with the kernel you flash the rom.
After a while you get used to it
On the other hand going back to stock is more like using Odin.
I have been reading user reviews .... many of them says they have restart problem .... Can i know if that issue is fixed with custom kernel and rom ??
prateek_gemini said:
I have been reading user reviews .... many of them says they have restart problem .... Can i know if that issue is fixed with custom kernel and rom ??
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Restarting problem is fixed on newest stock firmware 4.0.2.A.0.62.
Sent from my WT19i using xda premium
SE Live With Walkman Review
Right now i am using SE Live With Walkman
Pros:
-Low Price (Because I bought with INR:14500 only)
-1 Ghz Processor
-512 MB Ram
-Adreno 205 GPU (Good for gaming)
-5 MP camera (Good in Daylight)
-Led flash
-Simile Shutter,Auto Scene recognition, 3D capture, Touch Capture
-HD recording (720p, 30 Fps)
-VGA Front Camera for video calling
-Dedicated wallkman key
-Stereo Speakers & producing very loud sounds (Xloud)
-Noise cancellation mic
-Four corner shortcuts
-Ginger Bread 2.3.4 & ICS upgradable
-Very good design & look
-GPS, WiFi hotspot, DLNA, Flash Player 11,
-Antutu score 2901
-Quadrant Score:1708
Cons:
-Only one day Battery Life for me (Above avg use)
-Takes more than 2 Hrs for full charging
-Low internal memory 420 MB
-No custom equalizer (Other 10 presets available. For Custom equlizer need to use third party software like poweramp etc)
-No video calling through GSM network
-Media player only supports mp4, 3gp, wmv (Need To Install Third Party Software From Android Market To Support other Formats Like MKV)
Final:
Best phone in this price, and It will not disappoints you.
Restart issues has been fixed in "4.0.2.A.0.62" firmware version
Thanks alot guys for taking your time and giving me replies ....
Thanks
joshfire2007 said:
Right now i am using SE Live With Walkman
Pros:
-Low Price (Because I bought with INR:14500 only)
-1 Ghz Processor
-512 MB Ram
-Adreno 205 GPU (Good for gaming)
-5 MP camera (Good in Daylight)
-Led flash
-Simile Shutter,Auto Scene recognition, 3D capture, Touch Capture
-HD recording (720p, 30 Fps)
-VGA Front Camera for video calling
-Dedicated wallkman key
-Stereo Speakers & producing very loud sounds (Xloud)
-Noise cancellation mic
-Four corner shortcuts
-Ginger Bread 2.3.4 & ICS upgradable
-Very good design & look
-GPS, WiFi hotspot, DLNA, Flash Player 11,
-Antutu score 2901
-Quadrant Score:1708
Cons:
-Only one day Battery Life for me (Above avg use)
-Takes more than 2 Hrs for full charging
-Low internal memory 420 MB
-No custom equalizer (Other 10 presets available. For Custom equlizer need to use third party software like poweramp etc)
-No video calling through GSM network
-Media player only supports mp4, 3gp, wmv (Need To Install Third Party Software From Android Market To Support other Formats Like MKV)
Final:
Best phone in this price, and It will not disappoints you.
Restart issues has been fixed in "4.0.2.A.0.62" firmware version
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Some corrections.
ICS is not out yet.
Live with Walkman doesn't have secondary Mic for noise cancellation.
According to me, there are no smartphones that take 2 hours for full charge.
Video calling on GSM network was never possible and on 3g android doesn't have it built in.
Sent from my WT19i using xda premium
Can someone tell if we can play HD Games like gta 3 on Live with walkman without lag ?
and other HD games too ... ????
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Someguyfromhell said:
Some corrections.
ICS is not out yet.
Live with Walkman doesn't have secondary Mic for noise cancellation.
According to me, there are no smartphones that take 2 hours for full charge.
Video calling on GSM network was never possible and on 3g android doesn't have it built in.
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@Someguyfromhell,
-->ICS is not available yet but we can able to upgrade to Android 4 according to SE blog
-->The built-in secondary microphone is used for active noise-cancellation (you can verify this in gsmarena check in telephony section)
link here
gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_live_with_walkman_review-review-669p4.php
-->But it took me complete 2hrs to charge the phone fully i.e 100% (i will let the phone discharge completely until it turns off automatically and after that i will charge the phone is that the problem for me to to charge complete 2hrs)
-->Video calling that's the reason i mentioned in con's sections
if i am wrong please correct me because no one is genius in world there is something that you can learn from others
prateek_gemini said:
Can someone tell if we can play HD Games like gta 3 on Live with walkman without lag ?
and other HD games too ... ????
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I have GTA III on my LWW, even though my LWW is overclocked to 1.3 Ghz, I do experience only small lag and that is only sometimes.
Game itself runs good, mostly without lag, sometimes only a bit of lag.
Other HD games...like what? I might have played a lot of games, some of these might be HD, but I can't remember names.
Some people reported that upgrading to .62 messed up their camera... that is they are not able to focus and not able to take clearer pics .... did that happen to any of you guys ???
prateek_gemini said:
Some people reported that upgrading to .62 messed up their camera... that is they are not able to focus and not able to take clearer pics .... did that happen to any of you guys ???
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Never heard that, never had problem myself.
joshfire2007 said:
@Someguyfromhell,
-->ICS is not available yet but we can able to upgrade to Android 4 according to SE blog
-->The built-in secondary microphone is used for active noise-cancellation (you can verify this in gsmarena check in telephony section)
link here
gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_live_with_walkman_review-review-669p4.php
-->But it took me complete 2hrs to charge the phone fully i.e 100% (i will let the phone discharge completely until it turns off automatically and after that i will charge the phone is that the problem for me to to charge complete 2hrs)
-->Video calling that's the reason i mentioned in con's sections
if i am wrong please correct me because no one is genius in world there is something that you can learn from others
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I cannot find this secondary microphone on this phone, neither can I see any information from official white paper.
And yes, ICS will come some time also.
hi,
i know some of you wont bother looking at this "another comparison" thread and most of you will think "this is Xperia S forum, what do you expect us to say" but i have opened the same thread to the sensation Q&A section too..
so my last phones were; HTC sensation XE and One X..
and my criterias are, in the using time order;
1) most of the time i ll be listening music,
2) checking my e-mail.
3) using GPS (i travel a lot and alos live on of the most cunfusing citys in the world)
4) web browsing
5) camera using for the places i travel
6) games when i sm not traveling with my car ..
7) messing with the phone, trying to OC (sometimes to get better everyday experience but to be honest most of the time just to feel the power for ego satisfaction and its not like buying the most powerful phone, its more like watching and making the phone grow stronger in your hands)
the 7 is very little time, ones the occupation occurs i am not playing with my phone anymore, i want it to remain as a good assistant and a journey-mate for me.
according to my needings i crossed out SG Note from the list due to its eMMC bug and screen burn problems.. a phone which is famous with its screen should not suffer from screen problems. and also crossed out nexus for not having FM radio and limited storage option (only 16 in my country), and i also crossed the SGS3 and the HTC One X for one being so ugly and having screen burns, and the other for having lots of problems to get over.. i have waited enough android to get mature and i wasnt willing to wait for a phone to do the same and catch up with its software on the quality side, not in 2012..
so let me get to the quick advantages and disadvantages comparison, this is where i want your help about what i list under and add your opinions..
This is %100 my opinions and please change them and advise me if you think any (or all) of them are wrong
Sensaiton XE over Xperia s
- expendable storage option
- good headphones comes with it
- since its the cuisin of the sensation, it has very big development out there and with the way we can S-off and S-on there is no risk of losing the warranty
- since adreno is not designed for fill rate like mali-400 but its good for effects and balancing the load it gives superp performance on the games with a qHD screen
- and the GPU is also OCable when i feel like the performance is not enough (it was alwasy enough, to be honest but still... you know)
- about the development, i am not talking about having lots of kernels and roms out. i have only used CM9 and ARHD so far. what i am talking about is having s-off and not losing the warranty, and having camera mods to have 1080p videos at 30 FPS/40Mbps and photos like 5 MB, and having bravia engine with ARHD etc..
Xperia S over XE
- XEs screen is almost unusable under sunlight and gets dust collected under, but sony has a perfect screen there is no doubt to that.. (but i am afraid of yellow spots, some people says its coused by heat and the S3 Soc is heating on average usage
- GLONASS GPS support. i never used it so dont know about the real life performance but it must be a good thing to have 2 different satelite type instead of one?
- 12 mp camera is better on the stock comparison but i dont know if it can race with the modded sensation camera (please say yes, because my main choice is Xperia S and i just want to make sure i wont look back once i buy it)
- the UI seems smoother overall and litgher then the sense but still i wonder; how is adrenoa 220 doing with that 720p screen? and will there be OC chance in the future?
- 1 Gb of RAM is sure going to be better than the 768MB one especially when it comes to the multitasking
so to sum up, my main concerns are about the camera and the GPU and the screen.. i feel like "ok sensations screen is not good but it will always be that bad in the future too but what happens if my sony's screen loses its quality everyday just because of regular heating of the device? i have given up from all amoled screens because of that thought.
and the camera, since the memory is constant i can understand sony wanting to reduce the image and size but i want less compressed video and photos, especially at night
and the GPU.. will i feel like i need stop one day admit that my device is not enough for playing the newest games just beause it can not handle the georgeus screen in a year? this really scares me. with the development support of sensation it gets 52-53 FPS on the nenamark 2 without OC with the last drivers but the sony is stock in only 37 (i know it will do every game unless it gets under galaxy nexus since it is the referance device for now but still...)
thanks to everyone who is bothered to read this.. and thank you for help..
_delice_doluca_ said:
- expendable storage option
- good headphones comes with it
- since its the cuisin of the sensation, it has very big development out there and with the way we can S-off and S-on there is no risk of losing the warranty
- since adreno is not designed for fill rate like mali-400 but its good for effects and balancing the load it gives superp performance on the games with a qHD screen
- and the GPU is also OCable when i feel like the performance is not enough (it was alwasy enough, to be honest but still... you know)
- about the development, i am not talking about having lots of kernels and roms out. i have only used CM9 and ARHD so far. what i am talking about is having s-off and not losing the warranty, and having camera mods to have 1080p videos at 30 FPS/40Mbps and photos like 5 MB, and having bravia engine with ARHD etc..
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1) Do you really need it?
2) urBeats - The worst. ****ing. Headphones. Ever.
3) There is no risk of losing warranty on an unlockable device in most countries (i.e. not India).
4) They XPS and the XE both run MSM8260, since you're likely to root it, the clocks are not an issue.
5) And same GPU too.
6) There's a bunch of camera mods (even though stock camera software is quite nice), Bravia Engine doesn't work on anything that's not Sony stock, just adding those files is NOT enough.
thanks for quick reply. i just got a reply from sensation forum too and it says the games are butter smooth with a little bit of OCing. i have seen only one kernel to OC GPU and then the dev has given up on it due to the reporters say it was cousing porblems..
1) i guess not. 26 Gb with USB OTG will be more than enough i guess
2) why are people saying that? i have been using my phones with their own headphones and it believe the beats auido ones are better than the stock iphone ones?
3) thats very good to know thanks, i hope its same in Turkey too
and 6) i ll check them again never noticed any in a few days,
thank you again
_delice_doluca_ said:
thanks for quick reply. i just got a reply from sensation forum too and it says the games are butter smooth with a little bit of OCing. i have seen only one kernel to OC GPU and then the dev has given up on it due to the reporters say it was cousing porblems..
1) i guess not. 26 Gb with USB OTG will be more than enough i guess
2) why are people saying that? i have been using my phones with their own headphones and it believe the beats auido ones are better than the stock iphone ones?
3) thats very good to know thanks, i hope its same in Turkey too
and 6) i ll check them again never noticed any in a few days,
thank you again
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2) They might be better than the iPhone stock, but much worse than any actually good ones.
Hi there,
So 4.0.4 build ICS 4.1.B.0.587 has been out for Ray for quite some time now and I cant seem to find any topic, video, ANYTHING about how good it actually is?
Going to Sony forums is quite a hassle since most users there arent that tech savvy and you get puzzled answers at best...
So Im asking you guys, have you tried it, how good is it and is it worth upgrading over the old GB?
Specifily Id like to know about these things:
- HD Video recording still lags, stutters?
- Dialer opening up in this century (or is it taking 5 s still)?
- Overall smoothness any better?
Thanks, peace out!
Laggy, mono sound, led notification bug, call menu bug, worse battery life.
It's a downgrade not an upgrade.
Since I don't have xperia ray so I used my frnd's for some days and I used it first in gb, then in ics..
-I hardly suffered any faults in hd video recording(except that while starting the recording it took a bit time,nearly 4seconds for it to start)
-For dialer, I didn't found any flaws, lags etc.
-Smoothness for better in gb(as expected)
Going on gaming the smaller games worked fine...but as soon as I downloaded some big games they took sometime before starting and during playing too I experienced some lags...
Overall I would like to say that,
GB: Smooth, good for gaming, fast
ICS: Nice looks, more apps supported, more features(some features that u may not find in gb)
But this is my review and further the choice is yours. Using gb or ics depends on the purpose you're using your mobile.
If u like mah review, Press thanks,
Regards,
Abhinav
Sent from my Xperia Mini Pro using xda premium
Really appreciate both posts Would like to hear more opinions if there are any...
It seems most opinions about the new ICS build are totally contradictionary which is weird :cyclops:
Oh and how is the camera quality? Im guessing its still compressed heavily?
Well, make a backup and try it by yourself. I've only lasted 10 minutes with ICS on my phone, buggy and slow.
No way to backup / restore back from ICS to GB without voiding the warranty right?
colorblindnejc said:
No way to backup / restore back from ICS to GB without voiding the warranty right?
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Root your phone and install CWM recovery... Without unlocking bootloader...
Rooting doesn't void warranty but unlocking bootloader does...
Then make a nandroid backup by CWM recovery
If it's not too late already, you don't need CWM.
You'll only need your stock rom (installed on your phone), Sony Update Service, and FlashTool. You'll be able to backup your stock ROM into a flashable FlashTool image.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB77gWRUI_A
I extremely appreciate all the replies
Due to some GB problems that persisted I decided to take a leap of faith on this one and install the official ICS.In time I`ll write down my experience so that anyone with questions will finally be able to get some straight answers without hopping from forum to forum... Till then here are my initial thoughts:
So far I can list some general pros and cons
Pros: Sleek interface with new options, far better multitasking, gingerbread bugs fixed, better camera settings and handling
Cons: Hiccups during usage of a lot of applications, Sony specific bugs (as in Mono video recording, turning off sound doesnt work on unlock screen), extremely slow stock android browser (opera for instance is butter smooth, smoother and faster than in GB)
To say a few quick words, interface doesnt lag (dialer for example comes up in a microsecond) and is generally smooth but applications like facebook tend to have hiccups that can be disruptive if you enjoy smoothness. There are some weird bugs aswell which I dont really mind since they aint that important and should be easily addressed with the new update (hopefully). All in all im happy I upgraded. GB had connectivity dropoffs for me and the 3G or HSDPA wasnt really all that - but it is a lot better on ICS. All in all if I try to be objective ICS on Sony feels a little BETAish, I think its not optimized as it should be with the hiccups since in some areas they are quite heavy while in other scenarios during hard multitasking you cant notice any hiccups or lag at all - super smooth... Optimization would be the key word here Havent tried WiFi so no comment on that since I dont use it.
Bottom line, Im happier with ICS than with GB but not everyone would be. Especially if you value the "complete feel"
Hi there,
i'm getting a new z5 compact today and I'm really exited to void the warranty and improve that phone.
But where to start? I read a little bit through the topics and I'm not quite sure what happens to the camera if I root and unlock the bootloader.
I'm looking for a slim and fast rom, maybe lineage, with working camera as the original and even better battery life.
Thanks in advance for your help and guidance
Firstly, if you want to play games, flash SmarTemperatureX. I use modified stock rom, but AndroPlus is also great, I think. For better batterylife, idk. I personally just put CPU clocks down a bit.
Unlocking bootloader wipes your TA key, which removes camerafeatures like denoise and maybe some other processing. DRM fix restores them, but I'd advice to backup your TA file.
Nougat is far superior to Marshmallow, and Lineage seems to have a really good camera application, but I run stock rom.
In really low light, you might find that using manual mode in 2 megapixel mode looks the best, as it has the least noise. Often looks a bit sharper in low light even lol. Sony's stock camera app is okey, but I haven't tried ANY other, so I can't tell you which is best. 8mp is often better than 23 too, and even outdoors in good lighting, 3/2 mp sometimes gives you a more pleasing picture.
Hey, i got a sweet deal for brand new Z5 compact, and bought it for a family member (previous phone galaxy s4 mini)
Compact size (and good reviews) were deciding factors
I'm a long time nexus user and don't know anything about Xperia in general, apart from reviews for Z5..
Can you help me with a bit of tl;dr what should i expect from software in general, and Z5 model? quirks, problems, something i should watch out for or modify?
I'm not gonna root/rom if not necessary, want a stock stable android and maybe cosmetic changes with a good launcher or similar
any help appreciated
Overheating, bad camera image quality, battery drain, lagging due to old CPU, 2G ram and aggressive throttling..
My advice would be get newer model instead like X Compact or XZ1 Compact if you have higher budget.
I'm a old Nexus 4 user too. I bought my Z5c when my Nexus 4's screen become unusable after it was dropped. I've installed official Lineage OS on my Z5c. I'm not a heavy phone user but occasionally in the day i look up reddit use firefox to read/search something and listen music when I'm using subway and of course use Whatsapp to communicate with my friends. I don't use Facebook on my phone. Installing Lineage rooting via Magisk and installing Brevent app for increasing battery life made phone my favorite. It endures my daily use for 2 days without charging sometimes it may go 2 and 1/2. The features of stock rom like Bravia engine were not interesting for me and considering the bloatware included it's hard to call that they are worth it. I generally don't use my phone as camera but sometimes take quick photos of the landscapes with scenic views. Camera quality is enough for me. I'm not taking 4K videos w/ my phone anyway. There is a feature of stock ROM that I miss though. The iOS like selection magnifier for text boxes was a killer feature of stock ROM. RAM usage dropped 200 MiB and responsiveness of the phone is significantly increased with LOS. It is a great phone overall.
mlleemiles said:
Overheating, bad camera image quality, battery drain, lagging due to old CPU, 2G ram and aggressive throttling..
My advice would be get newer model instead like X Compact or XZ1 Compact if you have higher budget.
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Well, i bought it already X or XZ1 would be in much higher price range than for what i got.
It's gonna be very very lightweight usage, basic stuff only, so only thing that concerns me is that 'battery drain' after nougat update?
Is that issue fixed with some recent updates or still a problem?
xenondroid said:
I'm a old Nexus 4 user too. I bought my Z5c when my Nexus 4's screen become unusable after it was dropped. I've installed official Lineage OS on my Z5c. I'm not a heavy phone user but occasionally in the day i look up reddit use firefox to read/search something and listen music when I'm using subway and of course use Whatsapp to communicate with my friends. I don't use Facebook on my phone. Installing Lineage rooting via Magisk and installing Brevent app for increasing battery life made phone my favorite. It endures my daily use for 2 days without charging sometimes it may go 2 and 1/2. The features of stock rom like Bravia engine were not interesting for me and considering the bloatware included it's hard to call that they are worth it. I generally don't use my phone as camera but sometimes take quick photos of the landscapes with scenic views. Camera quality is enough for me. I'm not taking 4K videos w/ my phone anyway. There is a feature of stock ROM that I miss though. The iOS like selection magnifier for text boxes was a killer feature of stock ROM. RAM usage dropped 200 MiB and responsiveness of the phone is significantly increased with LOS. It is a great phone overall.
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Huh man, now i'm thinking of Lineage ^^ i know it's better os, but i used nexus because i didn't have time to constantly updating my roms and guessing will my camera work properly with new one etc.
If i decide to flash Lineage, can you tell me is it streamlined and documented properly for Z5 so i don't waste hours on research?
And also, is nougat battery drain still present? any major bugs in Lineage for Z5?
tnx for replies!
I'm running latest stock rooted. Having overheating and lags when browsing webs..
wipe calvik data cache...remove bloatware (spotify, moviecreator...) try again...after that the phone works as it should
100% use LineageOS. Performance and battery life life are phenomenal compare to the latest stock firmware.
Cerhio said:
100% use LineageOS. Performance and battery life life are phenomenal compare to the latest stock firmware.
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I just tested to see how much battery drain will happen when phone is not in use, no sim card, connected to my wifi, with stamina turned off.
It's siting on my desk for 3 days, currently 45% battery left, thats not bad right? i'm sure that with sim card it will be more, but still..
If i go for LOS Can you tell me what version should i go for, for most stable performance? I see there is Stable Release Date: 2017-08-27..
tnx
invisibles said:
I just tested to see how much battery drain will happen when phone is not in use, no sim card, connected to my wifi, with stamina turned off.
It's siting on my desk for 3 days, currently 45% battery left, thats not bad right? i'm sure that with sim card it will be more, but still..
If i go for LOS Can you tell me what version should i go for, for most stable performance? I see there is Stable Release Date: 2017-08-27..
tnx
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Hey, look for the official LineageOS rom. There was an unofficial that was compiled by someone but it seems that he's stopped.
I've recently gotten an Z5 Compact too.
mlleemiles said:
Overheating, bad camera image quality, battery drain, lagging due to old CPU, 2G ram and aggressive throttling..
My advice would be get newer model instead like X Compact or XZ1 Compact if you have higher budget.
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Overall it's a good camera in Z5C.
Camera quality is pretty much same same for Z5 Compact and X Compact, the XZ1 Compact has somewhat better image quality though.
invisibles said:
Well, i bought it already X or XZ1 would be in much higher price range than for what i got.
It's gonna be very very lightweight usage, basic stuff only, so only thing that concerns me is that 'battery drain' after nougat update?
Is that issue fixed with some recent updates or still a problem?
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I haven't noticed any battery draining so far.
mlleemiles said:
I'm running latest stock rooted. Having overheating and lags when browsing webs..
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I'm running latest stock, not rooted. No overheating or lag whatsoever when browsing the web.