Hey, i got a sweet deal for brand new Z5 compact, and bought it for a family member (previous phone galaxy s4 mini)
Compact size (and good reviews) were deciding factors
I'm a long time nexus user and don't know anything about Xperia in general, apart from reviews for Z5..
Can you help me with a bit of tl;dr what should i expect from software in general, and Z5 model? quirks, problems, something i should watch out for or modify?
I'm not gonna root/rom if not necessary, want a stock stable android and maybe cosmetic changes with a good launcher or similar
any help appreciated
Overheating, bad camera image quality, battery drain, lagging due to old CPU, 2G ram and aggressive throttling..
My advice would be get newer model instead like X Compact or XZ1 Compact if you have higher budget.
I'm a old Nexus 4 user too. I bought my Z5c when my Nexus 4's screen become unusable after it was dropped. I've installed official Lineage OS on my Z5c. I'm not a heavy phone user but occasionally in the day i look up reddit use firefox to read/search something and listen music when I'm using subway and of course use Whatsapp to communicate with my friends. I don't use Facebook on my phone. Installing Lineage rooting via Magisk and installing Brevent app for increasing battery life made phone my favorite. It endures my daily use for 2 days without charging sometimes it may go 2 and 1/2. The features of stock rom like Bravia engine were not interesting for me and considering the bloatware included it's hard to call that they are worth it. I generally don't use my phone as camera but sometimes take quick photos of the landscapes with scenic views. Camera quality is enough for me. I'm not taking 4K videos w/ my phone anyway. There is a feature of stock ROM that I miss though. The iOS like selection magnifier for text boxes was a killer feature of stock ROM. RAM usage dropped 200 MiB and responsiveness of the phone is significantly increased with LOS. It is a great phone overall.
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Overheating, bad camera image quality, battery drain, lagging due to old CPU, 2G ram and aggressive throttling..
My advice would be get newer model instead like X Compact or XZ1 Compact if you have higher budget.
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Well, i bought it already X or XZ1 would be in much higher price range than for what i got.
It's gonna be very very lightweight usage, basic stuff only, so only thing that concerns me is that 'battery drain' after nougat update?
Is that issue fixed with some recent updates or still a problem?
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I'm a old Nexus 4 user too. I bought my Z5c when my Nexus 4's screen become unusable after it was dropped. I've installed official Lineage OS on my Z5c. I'm not a heavy phone user but occasionally in the day i look up reddit use firefox to read/search something and listen music when I'm using subway and of course use Whatsapp to communicate with my friends. I don't use Facebook on my phone. Installing Lineage rooting via Magisk and installing Brevent app for increasing battery life made phone my favorite. It endures my daily use for 2 days without charging sometimes it may go 2 and 1/2. The features of stock rom like Bravia engine were not interesting for me and considering the bloatware included it's hard to call that they are worth it. I generally don't use my phone as camera but sometimes take quick photos of the landscapes with scenic views. Camera quality is enough for me. I'm not taking 4K videos w/ my phone anyway. There is a feature of stock ROM that I miss though. The iOS like selection magnifier for text boxes was a killer feature of stock ROM. RAM usage dropped 200 MiB and responsiveness of the phone is significantly increased with LOS. It is a great phone overall.
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Huh man, now i'm thinking of Lineage ^^ i know it's better os, but i used nexus because i didn't have time to constantly updating my roms and guessing will my camera work properly with new one etc.
If i decide to flash Lineage, can you tell me is it streamlined and documented properly for Z5 so i don't waste hours on research?
And also, is nougat battery drain still present? any major bugs in Lineage for Z5?
tnx for replies!
I'm running latest stock rooted. Having overheating and lags when browsing webs..
wipe calvik data cache...remove bloatware (spotify, moviecreator...) try again...after that the phone works as it should
100% use LineageOS. Performance and battery life life are phenomenal compare to the latest stock firmware.
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100% use LineageOS. Performance and battery life life are phenomenal compare to the latest stock firmware.
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I just tested to see how much battery drain will happen when phone is not in use, no sim card, connected to my wifi, with stamina turned off.
It's siting on my desk for 3 days, currently 45% battery left, thats not bad right? i'm sure that with sim card it will be more, but still..
If i go for LOS Can you tell me what version should i go for, for most stable performance? I see there is Stable Release Date: 2017-08-27..
tnx
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I just tested to see how much battery drain will happen when phone is not in use, no sim card, connected to my wifi, with stamina turned off.
It's siting on my desk for 3 days, currently 45% battery left, thats not bad right? i'm sure that with sim card it will be more, but still..
If i go for LOS Can you tell me what version should i go for, for most stable performance? I see there is Stable Release Date: 2017-08-27..
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Hey, look for the official LineageOS rom. There was an unofficial that was compiled by someone but it seems that he's stopped.
I've recently gotten an Z5 Compact too.
mlleemiles said:
Overheating, bad camera image quality, battery drain, lagging due to old CPU, 2G ram and aggressive throttling..
My advice would be get newer model instead like X Compact or XZ1 Compact if you have higher budget.
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Overall it's a good camera in Z5C.
Camera quality is pretty much same same for Z5 Compact and X Compact, the XZ1 Compact has somewhat better image quality though.
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Well, i bought it already X or XZ1 would be in much higher price range than for what i got.
It's gonna be very very lightweight usage, basic stuff only, so only thing that concerns me is that 'battery drain' after nougat update?
Is that issue fixed with some recent updates or still a problem?
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I haven't noticed any battery draining so far.
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I'm running latest stock rooted. Having overheating and lags when browsing webs..
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I'm running latest stock, not rooted. No overheating or lag whatsoever when browsing the web.
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I'm not really into tweaking and messing with my phone so I just wondered If the Oneplus X stock experience is a good one or not. I heard some worrying issues like a weak version of the 801 proccesor, games lagging in european version(I live in Israel so its probably the version I'm getting) and camera lags. If someone can clarify on those issues a bit more and tell me if the phone is worth getting without rooting, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks.
I love the Oxygen OS and am running the phone completely stock but most of the users here like the CM, though it's very subjective. I like minimum tweaks and simple and fast UI. Oxygen OS is perfect for me. Now for the bugs that the phone suffers is mostly software related and will be fixed in a couple of updates. And no need to worry about the "weak" 801, it still is the "801" and the performance is fast and smooth and will be even better with future updates. Battery life for a 2525mah is damn good. It gets me through the day with 20-25% still left in the tank. Camera is not the greatest but decent enough to get the job done. Though the video recording if really crap even my old and ageing Xperia SP can do much better than this. But overall i love it and am enjoying using it for almost a month now. Hope this helps
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I love the Oxygen OS and am running the phone completely stock but most of the users here like the CM, though it's very subjective. I like minimum tweaks and simple and fast UI. Oxygen OS is perfect for me. Now for the bugs that the phone suffers is mostly software related and will be fixed in a couple of updates. And no need to worry about the "weak" 801, it still is the "801" and the performance is fast and smooth and will be even better with future updates. Battery life for a 2525mah is damn good. It gets me through the day with 20-25% still left in the tank. Camera is not the greatest but decent enough to get the job done. Though the video recording if really crap even my old and ageing Xperia SP can do much better than this. But overall i love it and am enjoying using it for almost a month now. Hope this helps
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Definitely helped Thanks!
I would say that the oneplus x is worth getting especially if you don't want to root your phone!
I usually root and fiddle around a lot with my phones, but with the oneplus x it took almost 1 month until I couldn't resist and just had to root it. The phone is basically bloatfree and fast out of the box.
I had to root in order to improve performance. In stock the phone lags, especially in games.
I only rooted to flash the kernel and for some other stuff like greenify and adaway, but Oxygen OS isn't as bad as some would say it is, bugs here and there but its clean enough.
OnePlux x 'S CPU is 8974AA,This is a waste of CPU power
I usually root my device on day one of my purchase. I have always used my devices with rooting / jailbreak and i find it much comfortable rather than a stock. With root you can throw out the bloatware and customize the phone as you need. So i prefer rooted phone always.
But with OP , stock ROM seems to be packing all the features needed without bloatware. So if you can live with popup adds in apps and chrome, OPX will provide you a great experience. And with OPX price, it is always worth getting it :good:
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OnePlux x 'S CPU is 8974AA,This is a waste of CPU power
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So is honor 5X running CM13 or any other "lightweight" ROM significantly faster?
I used Nexus 5 for 2,5 years. What a great phone it was.
My usage consists of:
a) endomondo,
b) relay for reddit,
c) browsing teh internet,
No gaming whatsoever.
My N5's power button died (RIP) so I decided to give Honor 5X a shot, since I had opportunity to get it really cheap.
I love the feeling of the phone, the screen and battery life and fingerprint sensor are amazing - even the camera which is mediocre at best by today's standards surpasses the one on my good old N5.
BUT it is so much slower than N5 that it starts to really grind my gears.
When an app is opened, it works just fine - however the speed of changing apps is terrible, EMUI is way too aggressive with RAM management aswell. Waiting 5s for hangouts to load gets annoying really fast.
I currently use Nova Prime with stock OS and other than the speed itself I have no complaints, I really like the phone.
So, my question is: did you notice significant speed increase after flashing CM/alike ROM? Is it worth the hassle for someone who did not do it before?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, I believe that is a noticeable performance increase and is well worth trying out - just make sure you make a full Nandroid backup in case anything goes wrong and then you're safe to do as you please. I don't think it's too much hassle. It's pretty fast for this kind of hardware at this price point, But of course, this isn't a flagship phone like a Nexus so don't expect speeds of that caliber. Overall CM 13 feels buttery smooth to me. I have no issues with it whatsoever. Some people may have issues with XPosed, but so far I have none- your mileage may vary.
The only thing you might miss is the current lack of Fingerprint support - the Devs are aware of this and are working hard at this and are always being harassed about it, haha. Real work on that sensor won't be until the Official Marshmallow release, and it's not even a guarantee since the devs work on this ROM in their spare time. I still give props to crpalmer for providing us with such a nice CM13 for the Honor 5X.
Yes. Former Nexus 5 user as well and I loved that phone to death. CM13 performance on the Honor 5X is comparable to Marshmallow on N5. Very occasional minor hitches and glitches, and the rare crash and reboot, but overall buttery smooth just like the N5 and I am very happy with it. Leaps and bounds better than EMUI.
Biggest improvement is multitasking in my opinion. The EMUI Task switcher is glitchy and clunky and as soon as you start flying back and forth between apps on the recent screen in CM13 it will hit you how slow and limiting EMUI has been.
yes, I am running parallel shifts on SlimROM by @jsbeyond and the default EMUI (rooted and debloated), and the difference is quite telling! It almost seems like a competent athlete speeding away to the racing line while running Slim, while on EMUI it runs like an injured confused directionless bum. Only thing I miss from EMUI is the camera app
Like @mtmv2 said, multi tasking and fluidity is where you will feel most of the difference. I personally felt that the audio output (speakers) on Slim is also way less muffled than in EMUI. I use V4A as well, on both, so I am sure of the difference in audio with the same V4A profiles running in both environments. Battery on Slim is more controllable for drain, privacy protection, boot apps control etc is way better. Best of all is the battery saver, that stops the auto-sync only and helps battery last longer unlike in the EMUI which turns the phone into a 1990s sort of device with call and paging functions the moment you pick "battery saving mode"! Least said the better, but Slim restores all the android dignity of icons and animations compared to the toyish, immature, wannabe UI of the OEM.
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My GFs been using her Z5C for over a year now, however the first phone she got had some mainboard malfunction causing it to randomly crash and reboot. The second Z5C has been working somewhat good, however it becomes very sluggish and unresponsive after some use. I know this device only has 2GB of ram and half of that is eaten away by the system. I'm just wondering if you to experience really poor performance from time to time? Jumping from Nova launcher to phone, sms app or play store can take like 5-10 seconds with a white screen while loading/RAM swapping is a pain. I already factory restored it a couple of times, and was running the Marshmallow .11 release until now, switched to CM13 which is performing just a bit better, but comparing to an old Galaxy S2 running CM13 it feels almost the same which is weird considering the S2 only has 768MB RAM.
Just interesting to hear your experiences, maybe this phone also has a faulty mainboard like the one before I was thinking. Also it gets really hot, like always, with Android system being the main hog on battery usage and this on Sonys firmware and factory restored.
I get that the small form factory comes at a price, but seriously? ?
Try this i know is for nexus 6p ive even using it on nougat stock also suggest you to use it on stock just backup ur original thermal.conf after this u will see the true potential of the z
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Try this i know is for nexus 6p ive even using it on nougat stock also suggest you to use it on stock just backup ur original thermal.conf after this u will see the true potential of the z
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Try what?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/cttmod-mm-t3386953
I would not mess with the thermal configuration without knowing what exactly am I doing.
You are suggesting using a configuration file from nexus to apply onto the z5c. Surely, this is not a great idea, even if it had some positive results... I'd rather see a therm.config file made specifically for the z5c.
Ooh well just trying to help out ive been using this mods from him since lg g3... As much as i know thermal.conf are universal cross SoC since n6p has same SoC as the z5 compact is been using it on my z5 compact since almost 7 month and i havent have any issues.. even now on nougat is even better i did couple benchmark and the differences are huge in quadrant benchmark register around 10000 wgit the moded file around 23000
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After you apply u will see why z5 compact still high priced u will unleash the dragon on it just remeber to back up the original file change the right permission and read the thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/cttmod-mm-t3386953
You could also try this one, made for z5 family. I am using v1.61 without an issue.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...-smartemperaturex-best-balanced-s810-t3438890
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Ooh well just trying to help out ive been using this mods from him since lg g3... As much as i know thermal.conf are universal cross SoC since n6p has same SoC as the z5 compact is been using it on my z5 compact since almost 7 month and i havent have any issues.. even now on nougat is even better i did couple benchmark and the differences are huge in quadrant benchmark register around 10000 wgit the moded file around 23000
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After you apply u will see why z5 compact still high priced u will unleash the dragon on it just remeber to back up the original file change the right permission and read the thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/cttmod-mm-t3386953
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I compared the thermal-engine.conf of the one from the Nexus series with our thermal-engine.conf and found out that they have very different hotplugging methods. There are also some thermal configs that are missing. If you check the one from the Nexus, you'll see that when it reaches a certain threshold, the phone will shut down. Similar to ours, but the Z5 plugs out cores faster than the Nexus one.
Anyways, I wouldn't try it. It might have no negative effect on your phone, but it's not really worth the risk. Though I have taken the time to ask various devs if this is possible. I'm curious as to whether it is indeed effective or not.
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You could also try this one, made for z5 family. I am using v1.61 without an issue.
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IMO, Nougat's stock thermal is actually better. I've read that Stock Nougat's thermal ignores the thermal-engine.conf to some extent. It seems that Sony has rewrote the thermal-engine.conf for android N.
Okey, so in other words it's pretty common that this phone feels sluggish not just on my GFs Z5C but also yours?
Then perhaps I should look for some other phone in same size group but with Qualcomm 600 series SoC instead and at least 3GB RAM which should give a better experience.
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Okey, so in other words it's pretty common that this phone feels sluggish not just on my GFs Z5C but also yours?
Then perhaps I should look for some other phone in same size group but with Qualcomm 600 series SoC instead and at least 3GB RAM which should give a better experience.
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For me it's damn quick and much faster than my s4mini with 1,5 gb ram andCm13 before. However i'm using the mod i posted since short after buying because it got too hot sometimes.
In your case i would try the nougat firmware, from what i read it's faster than MM with better Battery Life and like iArvee mentioned less heat.
If you look for another phone, X compact would be the stats you mentioned. However some say Z5C is still better. I cannot compare, but there is an own Thread in the general section. Phones in this size group with good specs are pretty rare lately.
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Okey, so in other words it's pretty common that this phone feels sluggish not just on my GFs Z5C but also yours?
Then perhaps I should look for some other phone in same size group but with Qualcomm 600 series SoC instead and at least 3GB RAM which should give a better experience.
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Honestly, no. The phone is not sluggish at all whatsoever. Though if you do wish to go for a new phone, then as @Gewiz mentioned, the X Compact is your best bet. That is, if you wish to stick with Sony. On paper, the Z5C is faster than the X Compact, but the 600 series does not heat up as fast as the 810. Keep in mind though, the X Compact is not Water resistant. I was going for the X Compact, but went for the Z5C instead because of the IP68.
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Okey, so in other words it's pretty common that this phone feels sluggish not just on my GFs Z5C but also yours?
Then perhaps I should look for some other phone in same size group but with Qualcomm 600 series SoC instead and at least 3GB RAM which should give a better experience.
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I suspect it's due to the limited 2GB RAM, it's not enough for what your girlfriend is using her phone for.
Similar situation with my wife, we both have a Z5C bought around the same time, mine's very fast and responsive, yet my wife's takes forever to do anything. There's a big difference in how we use our phones, mine's relatively clean, stock, rooted and I use Greenify to help.
Her phone on the other hand has all these custom girly themes, Facebook app (notorious memory hog, I don't use it), a dozen or so photo editing apps that just refuse to hibernate (according to Greenify I later installed on her non-rooted phone in an effort to help improve things) and also eats up memory like there's no tomorrow... it's like a jungle of apps and stuff all over the place. She has horrific battery life as well.
I actually offered to switch phones with her a few weeks ago, since I feel like my phone was optimized and in great condition. However, once all of her apps and customization went into effect, it instantly became noticeably slower. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
At least she now has Greenify to auto hibernate those pesky apps that she absolutely refuses to delete.
Meanwhile, her original phone that I'm now using got a make over with my clean, lean and mean treatment and is running like a champ.
I'm still running Xpower 5. I tried moonwalkers rom and it seemed faster but it would also cause a boot loop after a few days. I find the phone CAN be very sluggish as well. I think it has to do with the memory as well. Sometimes I start an app (ie. Google voice or ES file manager) and it pops up instantly. Sometimes it pops up but the screen is blank and it literally sits for maybe 5 seconds before anything happens. The camera can be worse. Sometimes even opening the app drawer gives a lag. Android Auto is just always slow. I've found that if I use an app killer and clear out some memory the phone becomes more responsive. Yes, the OS should automatically do this, but it doesnt seem to do a very good job. If I'm starting an app thats not in memory, it should make no difference whether the memory is empty or the OS needs to kill something to make room. Maybe the process of clearing out space in memory has some lag.
I would switch phones in a heartbeat but I like the smaller form factor and nearly all other phones in the world are bigger.
Regarding facebook, I did this with my older phone because of how bad FB is, there is a "facebook lite" app you can get which is designed for lesser phones. It runs much better but it is more limited.
I'm waiting for a usable nougat rom to try. hopefully that will help
so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
Heyyo, yeah depending on your build of EUI ROM? It'll suck. Anything prior to 19s is definitely garbage. X821 19s was pretty good and same with x829 20s or x820 30s (albeit with ads). The best way to experience EUI ROM is CrisBalGreece modified versions.
Otherwise? I highly recommend custom ROMs. We have a lot of great Android 9 ROMs and Android 10 is pretty decent albeit with more bugs.
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so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
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Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
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what rom variant do you recommend? also are android 10 version stable enough or should i flash older android 9?
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so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
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The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
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The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
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so today i have instaled the first time a custom ROM,after struggling with twrp for 2hours . i have instaled AospExtended ROM V6.0 [X2] (adroid PIE) . it move more smoothly for sure,but not sure it moves this way beucase it's just a fresh rom..will way some weeks to see if it keeps up.
and about instaling a custom kerne . isn't that coming instaled with the ROM?
I have my device for nearly two years, and I am using eui 6.0.30s CBG cleaned edition since last year... I never face any kind of lag or bug except the lag caused by power save mod, which automatically enables itself when the battery goes down under %5. I think full wipe+reinstall firmware would be a great solution for you.
Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
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Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
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dude.. people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling. .. I never had to do that on SD800/801 phones lol...
since you are very determined that its not a bad phone , I'm taking out my Le Max 2 a second time .... hehe... I occasionally play Mobile Legends.. any other tips you can give?
Nexus 5 was SD800 and was known for overheating issues
https://www.technobezz.com/fix-overheating-problem-nexus-5/
Like I said, the main thing would be to switch to a custom ROM that has Android Pie and is decently updated. Most of those pie custom ROMs will have pretty decent thermals while still delivering decent performance.
I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
I found turning on "Mobile data always active" in the developer options massively improved performance in my apps (at least where online load times and download speeds in-game were concerned)
Did you just get your phone recently? After setting up this phone for the first time, I also noticed the device was extremely slow, with all the app and software updates happening in the background. After all the updates were installed, I turned the phone off for about a day, and performance went to normal. It's not as fast as a flagship and there are minor hiccups here and there, but that's about what I expected from a 400 series SoC.
My original report was the day after I set everything up, I disabled the permissions for the launcher which did improve the responsiveness of the launcher, but application performance and launch times are still slow compared to my old device and not what I would expect from a phone of this spec.
I'm pretty confident this phone is a victim of oneplus' recently reported throttling for battery life. I was curious and compared geekbench scores (which aren't throttled under oneplus' list) and both the nord and my oneplus 5 got fairly similar scores for both cpu and compute. I tried out a browser benchmark motionmark which benches graphics performance. The nord got a 25 and the oneplus 5 got a 189... I ran the test again to make sure but got similar results.
That graphics should be coming from gpu and not cpu though....
I tested cpu and compute on geekbench, compute is a measure of gpu performance. The nord scored a little higher than the 5 in that.
I would assume oneplus' throttling would effect cpu and gpu but even if not, my oneplus 5 scoring almost 8x as high does not seem anywhere near normal
T1Coreon said:
I recently went from a oneplus 5 to the nord 200 when I switched to t-mobile because of the free promotion. Before I got it I did a little bit of research on the processor and storage speed and didn't expect much of a difference in performance because the snapdragon 480 seems to be fairly powerful and the nord has the same UFS 2.1 storage as my old phone.
I was pretty disappointed to find in my use the phone about 1/2 the time the phone was pretty sluggish in the general user experience and app launch times were significantly longer. May be placebo, but I disabled digital wellbeing, and all the tmobile bloatware and it may have helped a little. I remember reading oneplus heavily throttled some of their phones in recent history. I may switch back to my old phone.
I know the device is relatively new, do you guys think it will get better with software updates or is this just how it is?
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Same experience here, i picked up this phone expecting at least a decent experience but still get bad slow not usable for everyday tasks sometimes.
Im not expecting a flagship performance of course but this is far from decent in my experience.
I hope android 12 will solve many performance issues. Or custom fw
I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. Did not expect so weak dev community activity. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
zaooza said:
I'm about to throw away this phone into trash. The laggy interface is almost unusable if you constantly swap between apps and find them unloaded from RAM. All my text or uploaded content just disappear. It is very frustrating experience. I never had this behaviour with my 2/32 gb xiaomi.
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If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
zaooza said:
Did not expect so weak dev community activity.
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You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
lzgmc said:
If you're really at your wit's end, have you considered installing a GSI? I've tried Phh's AOSP w/ gapps, and once you register your device with Google, it works flawlessly (except safetynet/drm) and is a million times faster than stock. Or I'd be more than happy to take your device off your hands.
You know, custom ROMs don't just appear out of thin air. Someone has to take the time to bring up a device and make it stable, and it's not an easy task. I would say to be patient and just accept the fact that there's no guarantee that this device will get custom ROMs.
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Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
Metconnect2000 said:
Any disadvantages with gsi besides safety net drm? Want to try gsi but this is new to me
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Other than pictures from the camera being degraded compared to stock and having to install apps from the Play Store/changing a few settings in the Settings app, everything seems to work fine