Hi I am a total noob when it comes to the Kindle Fire HDX. I have been trying to keep upto date as regards rooting this device (I have the Kindle Fire HDX 7") and like it except for the Operating Software.
When I look at threads regards to rooting I was getting very "noob confused" as regards to the OS versions because all I see (mostly) is reference to Versions 13.x.x.x or 14.x.x.x and could not undersatnd where the 13 or 14 came from because when I look at my version of OS all I see is 4.5.2 can not see a 13 or 14 mentioned on my Kindle.
So I had a good look at my Kindle and eventualy found that when I go to: settings, system updates and tap on the words "your device is running" I now see 13.4.5.2_user_452004220 there has been no mention on any of the threads regards how to get the full OS version so this is why I posted this.
I want to root my device but I am holding off because of the possible problems at the moment I intend to gather as much information before I attempt but I do think there will be a full proof way of doing it in the future especialy for noob's like me.
Can any member tell me if the 13/14 is the year ??
and what the number is after the word user ??
Short answer:
13 = kindle fire hdx 7'' = thor
14 = kindle fire hdx 8.9'' = apollo
22 = fire hdx 8.9'' (2014) = saturn
You can't root 4.5 yet.
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dpeddi said:
Short answer:
13 = kindle fire hdx 7'' = thor
14 = kindle fire hdx 8.9'' = apollo
?? = fire hdx 8.9'' (2014) = saturn
You can't root 4.5 yet.
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Yes understand that you can't root 4.5 just now noted that from all the threads I have read but I am not a impatient guy I can wate till a sound root procedure is made available anyway my Kindle fire hdx 7" is still under waranty till xmas 2015 but will keep an eye on developments posted on the threads.
Thanks for the above info but why is ?? against fire hdx 8.9" (saturn) does this meen unknown ?
Fixed saturn is 22.
About the other number.. we don't know. Perhaps internal amazon build number
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dpeddi said:
Fixed saturn is 22.
About the other number.. we don't know. Perhaps internal amazon build number
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Yes I was thinking that number would be some sort of Amazon build number.
All I have to do now is sit tight and hope for a good rooting package would love to get into android software and be able to do things I did work on Linux software many years ago when I worked with Honeywell but can't remember half the stuff I understand some basic commands but would have to get on a course to brush up on loads of things lol
soundacer said:
Yes I was thinking that number would be some sort of Amazon build number.
All I have to do now is sit tight and hope for a good rooting package would love to get into android software and be able to do things I did work on Linux software many years ago when I worked with Honeywell but can't remember half the stuff I understand some basic commands but would have to get on a course to brush up on loads of things lol
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UPDATE.
An OS update arrived to day 24th Feb 2015 on my Kindle HDX 7" OS was 4.5.2 now updated to 4.5.3 ( version Build 13.4.5.3_user_453011120)
But the funny thing is that when you tap on "learn more" as regards to new update it says version of OS is 4.5.2 no mention of the new update recieved to day so not a clue what this new upadate has done and can't see any difference to the HDX7.
Thought the above information would be of interest to developers on XDA.
ps/ my location is UK.
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Hi there,
I have a KFHDX 7 with Fire OS 4.5.4.
1 ) Currently, it's impossible to root with this version, right ? How downgrade ?
If it's rooted :
2 ) Is it possible to install a new rom ? like nethunter ?
3 ) We can install .apk from android store with a drag'n'drop ? (I haven't see the similare version of moon+ reader between amazon store and google store :-/ )
Thanks in advance,
Kind regards,
Sqdz'
sqdz said:
Hi there,
I have a KFHDX 7 with Fire OS 4.5.4.
1 ) Currently, it's impossible to root with this version, right ? How downgrade ?
If it's rooted :
2 ) Is it possible to install a new rom ? like nethunter ?
3 ) We can install .apk from android store with a drag'n'drop ? (I haven't see the similare version of moon+ reader between amazon store and google store :-/ )
Thanks in advance,
Kind regards,
Sqdz'
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Check this thread for downgrade info. In short you need to rollback to 3.2.8 then upgrade to 4.5.2 which can be rooted. There is risk executing this procedure including a hard brick. If you are unfamiliar with HDX devices they are exceptionally difficult to recover once hosed. Tools/techniques used on other android devices (factory cable, fastboot, usb spoofing, etc) simply don't work. You can not unlocked the bootloader on your device as Amazon has incorporated rollback protection ('efuse') that will permanently disable your device if you make the attempt.
Once on 4.5.2 You can install Safestrap v4 and then flash Nexus v4 or CM11. No other 3rd party roms are supported.
Pay attention to the warnings/cautions if you opt to rollback - especially those dealing with OTA and keeping wifi disabled. If you take an update while on 3.2.8 your device will instantly brick. At other times you will be upgraded to 4.5.4 and have to start the rollback process over again.
There are no step-by-step tutorials or helpful videos. You have to read, read, read and ask questions when needed. Do your homework before posting. If you ask a question that has been answered multiple times you probably will not get a friendly reception.
Davey126 said:
Check this thread for downgrade info. In short you need to rollback to 3.2.8 then upgrade to 4.5.2 which can be rooted. There is risk executing this procedure including a hard brick. If you are unfamiliar with HDX devices they are exceptionally difficult to recover once hosed. Tools/techniques used on other android devices (factory cable, fastboot, usb spoofing, etc) simply don't work. You can not unlocked the bootloader on your device as Amazon has incorporated rollback protection ('efuse') that will permanently disable your device if you make the attempt.
Once on 4.5.2 You can install Safestrap v4 and then flash Nexus v4 or CM11. No other 3rd party roms are supported.
Pay attention to the warnings/cautions if you opt to rollback - especially those dealing with OTA and keeping wifi disabled. If you take an update while on 3.2.8 your device will instantly brick. At other times you will be upgraded to 4.5.4 and have to start the rollback process over again.
There are no step-by-step tutorials or helpful videos. You have to read, read, read and ask questions when needed. Do your homework before posting. If you ask a question that has been answered multiple times you probably will not get a friendly reception.
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Ok thanks you alot for this informations. So I prefer to stop, I don't want a high brick. (I have already crack somes video games, and unbrick.. but I don't know android ^^)
Now i'm not sure to change with a nexus 7... It's the same resolution, more possibility with nexus 7, same price.
What do you think about that ?
Successfully rolled back from 4.5.4
My hdx 7 3rd gen was running 4.5.4 and was able to successfully rollback to 3.2.8 and then upgrade to 4.5.2. Next step is rooting!
devins111 said:
My hdx 7 3rd gen was running 4.5.4 and was able to successfully rollback to 3.2.8 and then upgrade to 4.5.2. Next step is rooting!
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Be sure to block OTA. An update will push you to 4.5.4 and kill root.
devins111 said:
My hdx 7 3rd gen was running 4.5.4 and was able to successfully rollback to 3.2.8 and then upgrade to 4.5.2. Next step is rooting!
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What's the procedure for this downgrade ? We can change the rom ? (like nethunter). Or I can return my kindle hdx for a nexus 7 2013.
sqdz said:
What's the procedure for this downgrade ? We can change the rom ? (like nethunter). Or I can return my kindle hdx for a nexus 7 2013.
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Dude - just get a Nexus 7. Easy to root/unlock and supports tons of third party roms. HDX has better HW but is a royal pain to mod and does not support your preferred rom.
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Davey126 said:
Dude - just get a Nexus 7. Easy to root/unlock and supports tons of third party roms. HDX has better HW but is a royal pain to mod and does not support your preferred rom.
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Edit: answered same questions in a previous post ...
Hello,
My Device:
Fire HDX 8.9" (4rd Gen/2014)
Codename: SATURN
Version: 4.5.5
1) Is it possible to root it on 4.5.5? How to proceed?
2) Is there a stable CyanogenMod and which version?
Sorry, but I don't get it as most threads refer to the 3rd Gen and older OS versions. Thank you very much.
WebDesZ said:
Hello,
My Device:
Kindle Fire HDX 8.9" (4rd Gen/2014)
Version: 4.5.5
1) Is it possible to root it on 4.5.5? How to proceed?
2) Is there a stable CyanogenMod and which version?
Sorry, but I don't get it as most threads refer to the 3rd Gen and older OS versions. Thank you very much.
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At present there are no proven root/rollback/rom options for 4th Gen HDX models running FireOS 4.5.5. You'll find some vids around stating all versions of FireOS v4 can be rooted (only valid on 3rd gen devices through 4.5.3) but you will likely end up disappointed or owning an expensive brick. Given 4.5.5 has been out awhile with no known root I think the best hope lies FireOS v5 assuming it gets rolled out to 4th gen devices. That's were people will be looking for vulnerabilities and developing exploits.
If you absolutely need root and/or CM I would seriously consider returning your device and going with something else.
Davey126 said:
At present there are no proven root/rollback/rom options for 4th Gen HDX models running FireOS 4.5.5. You'll find some vids around stating all versions of FireOS v4 can be rooted (only valid on 3rd gen devices through 4.5.3) but you will likely end up disappointed or owning an expensive brick. Given 4.5.5 has been out awhile with no known root I think the best hope lies FireOS v5 assuming it gets rolled out to 4th gen devices. That's were people will be looking for vulnerabilities and developing exploits.
If you absolutely need root and/or CM I would seriously consider returning your device and going with something else.
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Talking to Amazon Reps, the confirm it should be coming "soon"... V 5 that is
Thank you both very much for this information. Shouldn't have updated my Fire HDX 8.9 to 4.5.5 (KingRoot can be used on 4.5.3 and below)
But I am very happy, that the annoying ads have vanished.
Code:
>$ adb devices
>$ adb shell
>$ pm block com.amazon.kindle.kso
Package com.amazon.kindle.kso new blocked state: true
>$ reboot
Es tut mir leid, leider liegen mir zurzeit keine Informationen vor, wann der Fire HDX 8.9 das neue Software Update auf Fire OS 5 Bellini bekommen wird.
Gerne leite ich Ihre Anfrage an unsere zuständige Abteilung weiter. Ich bitte Sie ein wenig um Geduld.
- Amazon Support
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Means: They still have no clue how how long it will take until Fire OS 5 is available fore the Fire HDX 8.9 (SATURN)
WebDesZ said:
Means: They still have no clue how how long it will take until Fire OS 5 is available fore the Fire HDX 8.9 (SATURN)
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FYI - more banter on this topic (link).
Hey Guys,
I got my new HDX 8.9 from Amazon today (should be 2014 with SD805 and 64GB/Wifi) but my OS is 4.2 with an Update waiting to 4.5.3 (just those numbers in the settings, nothing like 14.4.....). Is it possible to unlock the bootloader and get a new Custom Rom with 4.2? I learned FireOS is utterly useless for me...
Thanks,
Hermelinmaster
BTW: First post, but i use XDA since Galaxy S2 root and Custom Rom-Tutorials came up. Great Forum!
Hermelinmaster said:
Hey Guys,
I got my new HDX 8.9 from Amazon today (should be 2014 with SD805 and 64GB/Wifi) but my OS is 4.2 with an Update waiting to 4.5.3 (just those numbers in the settings, nothing like 14.4.....). Is it possible to unlock the bootloader and get a new Custom Rom with 4.2? I learned FireOS is utterly useless for me...
Thanks,
Hermelinmaster
BTW: First post, but i use XDA since Galaxy S2 root and Custom Rom-Tutorials came up. Great Forum!
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On your device (4th Gen HDX) you can not unlock the bootloader nor utilize Safestrap to host a custom rom (Safestrap v4 only works on 3rd gen HDX devices). Unfortunately, your only option is FireOS. Might as well let it upgrade as there is no benefit to staying on 4.2. It will eventually update to 4.5.5 which appears to be the terminal sub-release in the 4.x series.
If you are thinking there must be some other path there isn't (or at least one that has been widely published/noticed). No root option either.
If Amazon follows through and ports FireOS v5 to the HDX you will have an environment closer to native Android and potentially a new vulnerability that can be leveraged to install a different ROM . Until then you can soften the FireOS v4 experience by sideloading apps and/or utilizing a 3rd party marketplace like 1Mobile.
Davey126 said:
Until then you can soften the FireOS v4 experience by sideloading apps and/or utilizing a 3rd party marketplace like 1Mobile.
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The Amazon Marketplace and some sideloaded Apps are for most of my app-needs enough but 1. I need Widgets and 2. I need some Google-Apps. And those seem to cause some trouble.
Think I just wait for End of January and send it back or sell it (got it quite cheap, now I know why) if there are no new methods for Custom Roms by then...
Thanks for your help.
I've grown tired of the limitations of FireOS and the Amazon appstore and I'd like to install a more standard android version on the device. I want to get a few things right though before a I begin. Most importantly, which available android version would you all recommend? I'm ready to follow all steps to backup and root the device, but is there anything else the community suggests being aware of before I begin?
Hi.. I'm actually looking to wipe out my FireOS and install a ROM. Same Kindle Fire HDX 7 4.5.5.1. You can look up the steps that Davey has been providing another user in here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...used-partially-fire-os-to-proper-rom-t3421623
GunX_X said:
Hi.. I'm actually looking to wipe out my FireOS and install a ROM. Same Kindle Fire HDX 7 4.5.5.1. You can look up the steps that Davey has been providing another user in here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...used-partially-fire-os-to-proper-rom-t3421623
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Thank you much, I'll give this a look!
hi, after reading a few threads on the kindle forum, unsure whether or not ; given the restriction & safegurads amazon had hardcoded into 4.5.5.2 fire os if it's possible to modify the device or even put gapps on it?
the kindle was a gift that has largely gathered dust in a drawer due to the amazon centric nature of it and my lack of interest in using amazon services. is there any way to free it up and either install something like cyanogenmod or gapps on it?
thanks!
robyneire said:
hi, after reading a few threads on the kindle forum, unsure whether or not ; given the restriction & safegurads amazon had hardcoded into 5.5.2 fire os if it's possible to modify the device or even put gapps on it?
the kindle was a gift that has largely gathered dust in a drawer due to the amazon centric nature of it and my lack of interest in using amazon services. is there any way to free it up and either install something like cyanogenmod or gapps on it?
thanks!
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Having trouble identifying your device. Don't recognize FireOS 5.5.2. Typo? Also, please pass along your device model (eg: HD, HDX) and approximate screen size. From there can answer your question and/or direct you to the appropriate forum.
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Having trouble identifying your device. Don't recognize FireOS 5.5.2. Typo? Also, please pass along your device model (eg: HD, HDX) and approximate screen size. From there can answer your question and/or direct you to the appropriate forum.
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hi, according to the device page of the kindle it's "kindle fire HDX (3rd Generation)" firmeware / fire OS version "4.5.5.2". with LTE.
thanks.
robyneire said:
hi, according to the device page of the kindle it's "kindle fire HDX (3rd Generation)" firmeware / fire OS version "4.5.5.2". with LTE.
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Thanks; missing '4' prefix threw me. Given LTE likely a 8.9 (larger) screen model also known as Apollo.
Path to a custom ROM:
- downgrade FireOS from 4.5.5.2 to 3.2.8.0 (easy)
- root with TowelRoot (easy)
- unlock bootloader (challenging for some)
- install custom recovery (fairly easy)
- flash custom ROM (fairly easy)
Custom ROMs based on KitKat, Lollipop and Marshmallow are available. While all are stable and largely feature complete none support LTE (well); some have issues with Bluetooth. That said, if a WiFi based tablet with full access to the Google Play Store and a gorgeous screen sounds appealing then transforming your HDX will likely be worth the effort. Note some technical expertise and a Windows PC (Macs and Linux also work) is required to unlock the bootloader.
Installing Google Play Services/Store on FireOS v4 is a dicey proposition that seldom works out well. Unfortunately, 3rd gen devices can not be upgraded to FireOS v5 which plays nice (nicer) with Google Framework/Services.
Hi everyone,
I need help about at version of Kindle Fire 7 that I've buy yesterday on Amazon.
I want to root and change rom on it but I am in doubt about which version of the tablet I've.
any suggestion how to verify it?
thank you
homerino85 said:
Hi everyone,
I need help about at version of Kindle Fire 7 that I've buy yesterday on Amazon.
I want to root and change rom on it but I am in doubt about which version of the tablet I've.
any suggestion how to verify it?
thank you
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- don't register device when first started
- do not enable WiFi (maintain network isolation)
- find version number under settings
- if 5.3.2.1 or above device can not be rooted
homerino85 said:
Hi everyone,
I need help about at version of Kindle Fire 7 that I've buy yesterday on Amazon.
I want to root and change rom on it but I am in doubt about which version of the tablet I've.
any suggestion how to verify it?
thank you
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Hi,
you can do by looking up your serial number. Or you open adb and issue the command "devices" it will bring you up the serial number. Or you install DroidInfo then it shows the Kindle codename in the app
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/blog/2014/07/how-to-identify-your-kindle-model/
Check the Serial Number
You can find this sixteen digit code in the box your Kindle came in or when you click on Settings and go to Device Info. Find your specific generation or type based on the first four characters.
Kindle (2007): Booo
Kindle 2 (2009): B002, B003
Kindle DX (2010): B004, B005, B009
Kindle Keyboard (2010): B006, B008, B00A
Kindle 4 (2011): B00E, B023, 9023
Kindle 5 / Touch (2012): B00F, B010, B011, B012
Kindle Paperwhite (2012): B024, B01B, B01C, B01D, B01F, B020
Kindle Paperwhite 2 (2013): B0D4, 90D4, B0D5, 90D5, B0D6, 90D6, B0D7, 90D7, B0D8, 90D8, B0F2, 90F2, B017, 9017, B060, 9060, B062, 9062, B05F, 905F
Kindle 7 (2014): B001, B0C6, 90C6, B0DD, 90DD
Kindle Voyage (2014): B00I, B013, B053, B054
Kindle Paperwhite 3 (2015): G090
Kindle 8: B018
Kindle Oasis: G0B0G
2011
Fire: D01E
2012
Fire: D026
Fire HD 7″: D025, D059
Fire HD 8.9″: B0C9, B0CA, B0CB, B0CC
2013
Fire HD: 00D3 and 00D2
Fire HDX 7: D0FB, 00FB, 00FC, 0072, 00FD, 00FE, 0073, 006C, 006D, 006E
Fire HDX 8.9: 0018, 0057, 005E, 00F3, 0019, 0058, 007D, 007E, 007F
2014
Fire HD 6: 00DA, 0088, 00A4, 00A5, 00A6, 00AD, 00A9, 00AE, 00B4, 00B6
Fire HD 7: 0092, 0093, 0063, 006B, 00DE, 00AA, 00DF, 00AB, 00B0, 00B2
Fire HDX 8.9: Unknown
2015
Fire: A000
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Davey126 said:
- don't register device when first started
- do not enable WiFi (maintain network isolation)
- find version number under settings
- if 5.3.2.1 or above device can not be rooted
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thank's man.
I've check and now is on 5.3.1.0 I can root IT... wowow
Davey126 said:
- don't register device when first started
- do not enable WiFi (maintain network isolation)
- find version number under settings
- if 5.3.2.1 or above device can not be rooted
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Necronomynus said:
Hi,
you can do by looking up your serial number. Or you open adb and issue the command "devices" it will bring you up the serial number. Or you install DroidInfo then it shows the Kindle codename in the app
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/blog/2014/07/how-to-identify-your-kindle-model/
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thank's man.
I've check and now is on 5.3.1.0 I can root IT... wowow