Wireless charging? - Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Any chance that the Xperia z4 tablet will have wireless charging? Did any of the previous Xperia devices ever have this feature?

To my knowledge, the only Xperia device so far that has had wireless charging has been the Z3v Verizon variant in the US. The z2 and z3 series all have magnetic charging. Not sure about the ones before that. As far as the Z4 Tablet goes, I have seen no mention of wireless charging or magnetic charging, and the images don't show a place for a magnetic charger, so I'm not sure.
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Wireless Charging is essentially the transmission of an electrical current from a power source to a receiving device without the use of a physical connection. The electrical current is then used to charge or re-charge the battery of the receiving device. In this circumstance the receiving device can be anything from a smartphone or wearable, to a large industrial forklift.

I dont think so that will happen... Sony will not add :/

I feel as if Sony would have mentioned or advertised it. Plus, that's quite a large pad.

yes, sure sony will add this feature

Er.. how exactly? I see no contacts where a dock connector could charge it semi-wireless and no spec sheet says anything about it having hardware for any true wireless charging in it.
I suspect Sony thought because the USB port does not need a flap like the previous models there is not as much need for a charging dock. For myself they are likely right. There is for me no huge difference convenience wise between putting the unit into a dock or plugging in a cable (assuming the cable is already there anyway).

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Query about usb chargers

I bought one of These as a replacement for the charger supplied by sony, for my st15i . I bought it because the original sony charger is big and needs a 3 pin socket but the new one needs just a two pin socket.
Now this new charger outputs a current of 1A where as the sony's charger gives out 850mA.
When i start charging my st15i with new charger(in the link above) the touch screen does respond . I cant slide to different panes on my home screen nor i could enter into any menu or app.
Does the current difference of 850mA ~ 1A between old(sony) and new(link above) chargers causes this problem ???
OR did i just buy a faulty product ???
Dude, this charger is fake for sure. This is too cheap for 1A (What makes you believe that there is 1A? o__O You measured the amperage?) Sony's GreenHeart costs much more, and this is really get 850mA. And maybe some defects in device that cause screen problems or maybe 1A is too much for XMP
RealGunjack said:
Dude, this charger is fake for sure. This is too cheap for 1A (What makes you believe that there is 1A? o__O You measured the amperage?) Sony's GreenHeart costs much more, and this is really get 850mA. And maybe some defects in device that cause screen problems or maybe 1A is too much for XMP
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Thanks for reply. I'm not technical about purchasing such goods.
So you say i should never use 1A charger for ST15i ??
iamsuperuser said:
Thanks for reply. I'm not technical about purchasing such goods.
So you say i should never use 1A charger for ST15i ??
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Think so. High amperage or voltage can be very dangerous especially for small devices just like phones. So why then Sony do not make 1A charger themselves?
As you can see, it's mean for iPod and iPhone's, which may have other charging currents etc.
That thing you bought clearly is not one of sony's product. If the output is really 1amp, just charge it for a little while and immediately pull it from the charger once it hits 100% mark. The high amperage charges your battery faster, thus giving off a little bit more heat. And since your phone tends to overheat, it behaves like you said. Pull it off, and let it cool down for a few minutes
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Looks like any charger with over than 700mA without any kind of filter inside the font or at the end of the cable can mess your touch screen, because, I heard, the sensors are close of the input. For example, HTC charges with 1A don't mess up, unlike ordinary chargers.
Also, with an legit charger, for example with usb output, with non oficial cable, can mess. This problem also don't occur only with chargers...
BTW, if we take a filter from a old cable and fix in a ordinary, the problem get solved??
Confirming the touchscreen issues with the touchscreen.Tried yesterday two different chargers,the kind where you put the usb cable.The chargers were surely cheap chinese ones,the usb cable my own,which came with my old se vivaz,and which I use with my Xperia mini.Not one problem till now with the cable,but with both the chargers above,the touchscren went crazy,like immidieatly after puting them in.
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arbrib86 said:
Confirming the touchscreen issues with the touchscreen.Tried yesterday two different chargers,the kind where you put the usb cable.The chargers were surely cheap chinese ones,the usb cable my own,which came with my old se vivaz,and which I use with my Xperia mini.Not one problem till now with the cable,but with both the chargers above,the touchscren went crazy,like immidieatly after puting them in.
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After searching on google...
Capacitive Touchscreens are of two types: Heat Sensitive and other is Electrostat Sensitive...
Xperia 2011 line uses heat sensitive touch...so charging ur phone with a higher voltage can ghost up touches and also make it unrsponisve as everybdy else stated
My money would lay in the quality of the filters.
Have tested several different USB chargers, all for prolonged periods of time, here are my observations:
-Stock Sony Greenheart - needless to say, works fine
-Apple 5v1A - both charging and touchscreen work like a charm
-Apple 5v2.2A - same results
-A fake Apple 5v1A(ish): charging works fine, while touch sensitivity of the screen gets scrambled as soon as the plugged in and returns to normal as soon as unplugged.
So far, none of the tested contraptions have caused any long term side-effects.
I use a HTC TC E250: small, fast (1000mA), cheap, no problem ever
Xperia mini (smultron), CM10 150, Xtended kernel + rom

Qi charging for the Z3

http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/09/10/...eless-charging-wcr14-wireless-charging-cover/
Now will it come out is the question (unlike the Z2 one)
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jonshipman said:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/09/10/...eless-charging-wcr14-wireless-charging-cover/
Now will it come out is the question (unlike the Z2 one)
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Makes the device look abit thick imo?
Of course, it's a flip case.
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If only they could release a back only cover with qi charging. Not a fan of the book style cases
QI charging with such a big battery will end in 6+ hours from 0-100% as the QI Charging current is restricted.
Bäcker said:
QI charging with such a big battery will end in 6+ hours from 0-100% as the QI Charging current is restricted.
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the whole point is to avoid messing with the flaps too much (when you have to plug/unplug microUSB cable) to avoid unnecessary wear & tear...
it takes maybe 2-3 hours to charge my nexus 5(2300mAh) on Qi, probably 3-4 for the z3 (3100mAh)
Yeah, I now. But our Z3 offers a magnetic charging port - which also allows full charging current and this adds no bulk
Also you can charge everywhere and only have to carry a small cable instead of a bulkier QI charger. Or you chan use a dock, whatever you prefer.
Bäcker said:
Yeah, I now. But our Z3 offers a magnetic charging port - which also allows full charging current and this adds no bulk
Also you can charge everywhere and only have to carry a small cable instead of a bulkier QI charger. Or you chan use a dock, whatever you prefer.
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Well, the point of Qi is that it's universal. E.g. a Nexus charger will work with a Lumia, will work with a GS4. Z2 and Z3 can't even use the same dock.
I get why Sony used the magnetic charger, the thinnest qi coils are still around 1mm. When the phone is 7.3mm thick, it adds up. But personally, I wouldn't mind a thicker phone, but I understand their reasoning.
I absolutely agree. If QI was readily available for most battery operated devices that would be very convenient. As it is now it does not matter if you buy a magnetic charger or QI, because you have to buy each for your phone.
The Z2 dock works for the Z3 - no problem there.
I'm torn between this and the Style Up cover with the window. I don't see why they couldn't add the smart cover functionality to the Qi case. I upgraded from a Nokia Lumia and I have a couple of wireless chargers at home that I was hoping to continue using.
Then again, this Qi case costs more than the Style Up cover and the dock combined!
The style up cover has been delayed until November 4th according to an email I got from Amazon today.
I did look at the Qi charger for the Z2 but it was/is quite ugly and bulky. So it's mag charger for me. One dock and two plain magnetic connector cables.
I have two Qi charging plates and they're already quite busy charging a N7, G3 and 1520. And they do all take a long time to charge, and the N7 charges to full and then just starts to drain without ever topping up again. So leave it for a few days and it will have charged and then drained. No such problems with the magnetic connector.
paperWastage said:
the whole point is to avoid messing with the flaps too much (when you have to plug/unplug microUSB cable) to avoid unnecessary wear & tear...
it takes maybe 2-3 hours to charge my nexus 5(2300mAh) on Qi, probably 3-4 for the z3 (3100mAh)
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My G3 takes 2.5 hours from 2%-100% with a 3000mah battery. Qi charging is fairly fast if you use a 1A output qi charger
USA's Verizon exclusive Z3v has QI built-in, that's actually prety useful if you ask me. I use the magnetic charging on my Z1 but QI would probably be more convenient. Too bad Brazil's model doesn't seem to come with this feature. I just don't get it, why put in on Verizon's model but not on global's. Maybe I'll just stick with my Z1 for longer and get the Z4 when it comes out (hopefully with QI built-in and optical image stabilization)
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USA's Verizon exclusive Z3v has QI built-in, that's actually prety useful if you ask me. I use the magnetic charging on my Z1 but QI would probably be more convenient. Too bad Brazil's model doesn't seem to come with this feature. I just don't get it, why put in on Verizon's model but not on global's. Maybe I'll just stick with my Z1 for longer and get the Z4 when it comes out (hopefully with QI built-in and optical image stabilization)
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I don't quite understand that as well. Why does only the Verizon one have it? Maybe they are saving it for the Z4 or they just don't want to implement it into the Z3 that is already in production. I heard that the Z3v is a bit thicker than the regular Z3 because of the Qi Charging.. Besides that, I guess you can get the Charging dock fr the z3 instead. Either way, you won't have to remove the flaps so I guess it works. If the Verizon Z3 had international bands, I'd purchase that one instead (unless the carrier is branded all over the phone).
Verizon will most likely brand the hell out of it. Verizon is also CDMA, not GSM. won't work outside of the states.
I thought all of verizon's LTE phones are unlocked for their sim cards....?
buda81 said:
Verizon will most likely brand the hell out of it. Verizon is also CDMA, not GSM. won't work outside of the states.
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VZ LTE phone has CDMA for voice and GSM for LTE data. GSM portion is NOT locked.
pomtouch said:
I thought all of verizon's LTE phones are unlocked for their sim cards....?
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ngvuanh said:
VZ LTE phone has CDMA for voice and GSM for LTE data. GSM portion is NOT locked.
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That's good to know.
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QI charging with such a big battery will end in 6+ hours from 0-100% as the QI Charging current is restricted.
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It wont... because the magnetic charge connector on the Xperia Z3 can only receive power and cannot communicate. So there is no way it can detect if a magnetic charger is connected or a Qi chargepad.
Im searching the web for weeks now trying to find a bumper for my Z3 with Qi over magnetic connectors. I dont understand why companies did not come up with that allready. It wouldnt add any more thickness to the bumper, and you could easily charge 1000 mAh. In wich the Phone will charge in 3 to 4 hours i guess. Thats great when charging over night.
I see were you are comming from. The culprit is the QI charging pad output, so you are still left with that low current.

Magnetic USB Charging Cable

Magnetic USB Charging Cable, some one will try it?
http://dx-box.com/high-performance-...e-magnetic-connection-and-charging-speed.html
I will not touch a third party charger. I want to buy the DK30/Dk31 dock and take it apart for the EC21 cable but I'm not sure if its compatible? Does Somebody know maybe?
The page doesn't load for me, but I'd trust the microUSB -> Magnetic convertors over the entire charger. That way you can use the OEM charger or another high quality charger.
A lot of brandless chargers are made lower quality and that can lead to issues where phones "explode". Odds are, whenever you read about a person's phone exploding they were probably using a knockoff charger.
The adapters shouldn't be a problem. It's just a simple wire-to-wire exchange. No circuits.
Something like this
http://www.amazon.com/Magnector-Per...1144360&sr=8-1&keywords=magnetic+charger+sony
EDIT: I got a kick out of "Reverse Attachment Charging Protection", because the charging holes are just different sizes.
My Z1 magnetic charging cable works although it is a tad more easy to dislodge compared to when I was using it on my z1
I have THIS http://www.clove.co.uk/microusb-to-magnetic-connector-adapter and I must say it doesn't work perfectly. The adaptater doesn't 'grip', it stays in place only if you put you Z3 down.
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A lot of brandless chargers are made lower quality and that can lead to issues where phones "explode".
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OF COURSE. There are phones exploding just everywhere; you just cannot leave the house without ear protectors because there's exploding phones all around you.
Honestly; I am so sick of reading that "exploding phone" stories over and over. Same with stolen kidneys and similar paramountly believable urban legends.
Is this the charger wich comes with z3 in box ?
Quick Charger EP881
I cant find spec for this,is this the 2A or 1.5A ?
fain2daniel said:
Is this the charger wich comes with z3 in box ?
Quick Charger EP881
I cant find spec for this,is this the 2A or 1.5A ?
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believe its 1.5A based on the same code found on other sony country sites.
http://www.sony.com.sg/product/ep881
however, lazy to check if its the same model that comes with the Z3 although i believe it should be!
This is the one my Z3 came with. T-mobile Netherlands model.
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This is 2.5A fast charger wich is great.How much time it needs to 100% charge the battery?Im geting mine tomorrow,hope that comes with same charger.
I'm pretty sure it is 1,5A. Charged my device only once with it and I was surprised with the speed. Will do a timed run next time round.
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This is 2.5A fast charger wich is great.How much time it needs to 100% charge the battery?Im geting mine tomorrow,hope that comes with same charger.
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the picture clearly reads 1500mA and that's what it is. This charger was included with my z3 as well.
2.30h to fully charge the batery with original 1.5A charger.Its not so bad.
EP880 is 1.5A, and is what came with my Z3. I'm intrigued to know what the 881 is.
In fact, given its support of Quick Charge 2.0, I am hopeful of Sony releasing a new PSU that can detect a QC2 compatible device and up the power further. So far I can only find one from Motorola and it's not on sale outside the US (that I can see).
Hi All,
Thought I'd give my review of two different magnetic cables I've purchased from my Xperia Z3.
Firstly, I purchased a £3 magnetic cable from Ebay which was utterly a waste of money! Soon as you picked the phone up or touched it the connection port would move up or down. I contacted the seller who is sending me a replacement so will see if this is any better.
Now on to the more expensive magnetic cable but with a twist.
This magnetic cable I purchased from Amazon had great reviews from previous Z2 users. Now I wasn't sure if it was Z3 compatible but turned out the ports are the same for Z2 and Z3. So I purchased the item from Flubit as you get a little discount if they can get a deal for you and it arrived within 2-3 working days.
Item name: [ Magnector X ] High Performance Universal Sony Xperia Z1 & Z2 & Z3 Charging Adapter for Micro USB Cable - Enhanced Magnetic Connection and Charging Speed [ Black ]
This product felt more durable and solid when taking it out of the mildly fancy packaging. The product itself isn't connected to a cable but has a micro usb port which you attach your original Sony cable to. (unfortunately I need 10 posts before i can show pics but just check it out on Amazon. I tried it for the first time last night as my phone stays next to my pillow and it seems to do the trick as it didn't fall off even with my cheapy case attached to it in the morning.
As the saying is, buy cheap...buy twice! Hope this review helps anyone on making a decision between the cheap ones and expensive ones.:good:
figo_rulz11 said:
Hi All,
Thought I'd give my review of two different magnetic cables I've purchased from my Xperia Z3.
Firstly, I purchased a £3 magnetic cable from Ebay which was utterly a waste of money! Soon as you picked the phone up or touched it the connection port would move up or down. I contacted the seller who is sending me a replacement so will see if this is any better.
Now on to the more expensive magnetic cable but with a twist.
This magnetic cable I purchased from Amazon had great reviews from previous Z2 users. Now I wasn't sure if it was Z3 compatible but turned out the ports are the same for Z2 and Z3. So I purchased the item from Flubit as you get a little discount if they can get a deal for you and it arrived within 2-3 working days.
Item name: [ Magnector X ] High Performance Universal Sony Xperia Z1 & Z2 & Z3 Charging Adapter for Micro USB Cable - Enhanced Magnetic Connection and Charging Speed [ Black ]
This product felt more durable and solid when taking it out of the mildly fancy packaging. The product itself isn't connected to a cable but has a micro usb port which you attach your original Sony cable to. (unfortunately I need 10 posts before i can show pics but just check it out on Amazon. I tried it for the first time last night as my phone stays next to my pillow and it seems to do the trick as it didn't fall off even with my cheapy case attached to it in the morning.
As the saying is, buy cheap...buy twice! Hope this review helps anyone on making a decision between the cheap ones and expensive ones.:good:
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I also just got this cable through today and its fantastic.
Avoid the cheap ones.
Got one first thing Monday morning via Amazon and super impressed because I ordered it at 6.55pm on Sunday night!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00H2EEB4S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I got mine from Amazon (Prime) but there was only one in stock and I got it, so now it's showing from another supplier.
It's great! I had two unknown Chinese-made ones before, and both struggled to stick to my Z2 or Z3, causing all sorts of weird issues (mostly that of what it would be like to attach and detach the lead repeatedly). They're now history.
So far this is clamping on so solid that there's no chance of that happening, and I always 'rotate' the magnetic chargers off so no chance of pulling out the connector.
I also got the official dock, but at £20-odd at a time (and I now have a mountain of docks because all I need are the inserts, not a new dock for each phone) I will probably get one or two more of these. The dock by the bedside and these around the house and at work.
Hi what's do you mean by rotate to keep it secured?
When taking off I simply fold/twist it back rather than pull it off and risk damage, given how strong the magnetic force is.
I have bought this one on ebay , "Magnetic Charging Dock Cradle Desktop Charger for Sony Xperia Z3 and Z3 Compact" for about 10 euro's (incl sending)
it works nice , you don't need to open the covers each time.

[Q] Portable magnetic charger and portable external battery

Hello,
Long time lurker, finally joined to post my first question as I am gathering info before buying my Z Ultra!
For convenience, I plan to charge using the magnetic connection rather than USB. The dock (DK30 and others) is convenient but not portable. I see compact magnetic cables/adapters- as a new member I can't post links, if you go to mobilefun and search sony magnetic you will see.
I could not find official Sony cables, to my knowledge they do not exist (unless you take apart a dock).
Now, I've read some comments to only use the charger that came with the phone for the docks (magnetic connection) and not, for example, USB port on a PC. Is it therefore not a good idea to use an external battery as the power source for magnetic charging? I'm referring to products from the Anker range which certainly would charge the ZU via direct USB. Is there really a different power source (AC outlet) requirement when using magnetic connection?
Thanks
Jess
600 views and not a single reply. Come on, I know somebody must have at least tried using external battery using the magnetic charger.
I'm trying to understand why it's OK to charge from a PC USB port over regular micro USB but not OK to do so over magnetic connection.
Well I actually use this option.
Purchased a magnetic cable usb (that actually came in original Sony box) and also purchased an external sony battery pack, and using them with no problems.
So dont know really what to tell you.
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Well I actually use this option.
Purchased a magnetic cable usb (that actually came in original Sony box) and also purchased an external sony battery pack, and using them with no problems.
So dont know really what to tell you.
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Efharisto Pavlos!
What battery pack are you using? I suspect warnings about the magnetic connector may be related to the current output. I think battery packs with higher output like 2A are better for magnetic charging.
Hey I am actually using the Sony CP-F1LAM its a 3500mha version.
Works well takes a little bit longer to charge but will fully charge ZU no problem.
Actually last night I had the battery on mains via miniUSB and the ZU on the battery all night, via the magnetic cable.
Nothing blew up, or even got warm or anything.
The particullar battery outputs 1.5v and has protection to not allow it to go any higher.
Also has all kinds of thermal mulfunction protections.
Pavlos

[Q] Off Brand DocK Chargers

I've been wanting to buy a dock for my new xperia z2, but i'm a little concerned that off brand dock chargers may damage my phone battery or the magnetic terminals of the phone.
Is there any truth to this?
If you don't use the correct charging values, can it corrupt your battery?
WhyYouLittle said:
I've been wanting to buy a dock for my new xperia z2, but i'm a little concerned that off brand dock chargers may damage my phone battery or the magnetic terminals of the phone.
Is there any truth to this?
If you don't use the correct charging values, can it corrupt your battery?
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I've been an Xperia owner for years and have always used the cheapest docks I could find on ebay. I've never had any issues with battery life on my phones (have had Xperia Z, Z2, Z3, then back to Z2). Just make sure you give your phone a good overnight charge on a wall charger every couple of months or so and you'll be fine.
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I use chepest dock from ebay and sometimes when I put phone on dock he connect-disconnect-connect-dis.... and I muve little phone and all is good no problems with charging.
I have the VicTsing Dock.
It's not expensive compared to the Sony branded one and the quality is really good.
Also there is a pass-trough USB port on the back that allow you to sync data or even connect any USB device.

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