[Q] Is it just me, or is everyone with S-on stuck? - AT&T HTC One (M8)

I am fairly new to the whole ROM thing on this device. I have experience with older phones and am just getting back into this recently. That being said...
Current state is: Bootloader unlocked, currently running stock 4.4.4, Sense 6.0, Kernel 3.4.0-g931e842, Build 3.42.502.1 CL441323; ROM applied via RUU. (RUU_M8_[email protected]41216A_40.34.C35006.02_F_release_407726_signed_2)
Bottom line is that since I have attempted to root and flash ROMs I have had issues with making and/or receiving calls, or no SIM recognized at all, requiring S-off/firmware upgrades, etc.
I am looking for a stable build ROM which is compatible with the 4.4.4 firmware on my device which can be applied without obtaining s-off. Main goal is to be able to personalize the UI and to run a faster, debloated ROM.
Tried first using Renovate 5.0... could not receive calls on that one.
Removed. back to stock.
Next I found a Lollipop 5.0.1 ROM (HTC_One_M8_Lollipop_5.0.1LRX22C) which did not appear to require firmware updates... seemed to work great... except that I could not receive calls...
Removed... back to stock.
Next, I used ViperOneM8 and really liked it, but had to abandon once I was told by people that they were still getting sent straight to voice mail.
I did get some calls, so I tested having some people call me and it seemed fine... well turned out that during those tests I was on the 3G network... Once again, troubleshot down to the fact that anytime I was on 4G network I could not receive calls. Having had no way to change my network selection in this ROM (error was displayed when I attempted this). Contacted their support to confirm my issue. They are aware, no resolution available.
Removed... back to stock.
So my question is, are there any options OTHER THAN paying $25 to use Sunshine to get S-off, upgrade firmware? I am not a developer and I love my M8. I know there are people here who know exactly what I need and understand what I am looking for. Thanks in advance for any assistance.

GA_Android said:
Next I found a Lollipop 5.0.1 ROM (HTC_One_M8_Lollipop_5.0.1LRX22C) which did not appear to require firmware updates... seemed to work great... except that I could not receive calls...
Removed... back to stock.
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I can't tell what ROM your are talking about based on that description. Possibly GPE stock rooted?
What I can tell you, is that most any Lollipop Sense ROM will have issues when used alongside 4.4.4 firmware.
Sense 4.4.4 ROMs will play well with your firmware, as will a number of 4.4.4 and 5.0 GPE and AOSP ROMs (that specifically state they support 4.4.4 firmware). However, when it comes to AT&T, there is more at play then whether the ROM corresponds to the firmware. That other complication is that AT&T does some annoyingly unique things with their network. In the past, this has included changes to build.prop and even the signal icons, which sometimes caused "international" custom ROMs to have some issues. And now you see that their HD Voice (Voice over LTE) is messing with some custom ROMs. As the other thread you posted in mentioned "blame AT&T".
Running an AT&T base 4.4.4 ROM is your best bet for trouble-free use on AT&T's network. WNC's ROM might fit the bill for what you want (debloated) and is often where I send folks that want a bug-free experience on AT&T (while retaining some AT&T specific features). The 3.28 version ROM is what you should try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
There are other ROMs that might work for you. But the above is my suggestion, at least as a start.

redpoint73 said:
I can't tell what ROM your are talking about based on that description. Possibly GPE stock rooted?
What I can tell you, is that most any Lollipop Sense ROM will have issues when used alongside 4.4.4 firmware.
Sense 4.4.4 ROMs will play well with your firmware, as will a number of 4.4.4 and 5.0 GPE and AOSP ROMs (that specifically state they support 4.4.4 firmware). However, when it comes to AT&T, there is more at play then whether the ROM corresponds to the firmware. That other complication is that AT&T does some annoyingly unique things with their network. In the past, this has included changes to build.prop and even the signal icons, which sometimes caused "international" custom ROMs to have some issues. And now you see that their HD Voice (Voice over LTE) is messing with some custom ROMs. As the other thread you posted in mentioned "blame AT&T".
Running an AT&T base 4.4.4 ROM is your best bet for trouble-free use on AT&T's network. WNC's ROM might fit the bill for what you want (debloated) and is often where I send folks that want a bug-free experience on AT&T (while retaining some AT&T specific features). The 3.28 version ROM is what you should try: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
There are other ROMs that might work for you. But the above is my suggestion, at least as a start.
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You are correct. It is a GPE stock rooted Lollipop ROM. It works just fine as long as I have 3G selected as my network, but it is just not as much flash as I wanted.
I am going to give the one you sited here a look and maybe give it a try. I appreciate your taking the time to reply. It was helpful and informative.

Erring on the Side of Caution
I'm in a similar quandry as the OP. I have lots of experience flashing ROMS on my older phones but trying to keep up with all the changes since getting my M8 has me confused.
Here's my current setup. I'm running Skydragon after trying the last 4.4 milestone of Liquidsmooth. I like both, but am interested in keeping up with the Lollipop guild.
I have Sunshine installed but when I ran it I found out I need to remove or disable Xposed Installer to continue. I'll deal with that by disabling it.
UPDATE: Well, that didn't work. Xposed was installed with the ROM and there's no option to uninstall it.
My biggest concern is updating the firmware. From my bootloader info, I'm assuming that I'm way behind on the latest firmware, but after reading so many threads about updating, my head is swimming.
If I need to update, I just want to make sure that I don't brick my phone.

CanuckinPA said:
I have Sunshine installed but when I ran it I found out I need to remove or disable Xposed Installer to continue. I'll deal with that by disabling it.
UPDATE: Well, that didn't work. Xposed was installed with the ROM and there's no option to uninstall it.
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Return to stock ROM and stock recovery, for optimal configuration for sunshine to work. RUU is probably the easiest way to get back to stock. Backup your personal data, than relock bootloader to run RUU.
CanuckinPA said:
My biggest concern is updating the firmware. From my bootloader info, I'm assuming that I'm way behind on the latest firmware, but after reading so many threads about updating, my head is swimming.
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Yes, based on your hboot number, your firmware is about as old as it gets (Android 4.4.2).
You can RUU to 4.4.4 firmware without s-off; and Lollipop Skydragon GPE should work fine with 4.4.4 firmware.
You can of course still s-off and update to Lollipop firmware. But you need to use some other firmware besides AT&T (such as Dev Edition, Euro, etc.), since they haven't released a Lollipop update (and therefore no firmware).

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[Q] Need help with some basic questions

Alright, I did a quick search and nothing popped up and I'm looking for the latest information anyway. Also I'm a complete beginner here
Alright, I installed a new stereo into my car and everything works great. Except that when I'm streaming the stock google music app the tags do not show up on the display. According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560609&page=22 this is a common problem with the receiver and it appears that most/all stock ROMs will not display tags. So according to that thread I need a custom ROM specifically one that runs 4.1. I guess 4.2 does not show tags on any ROM.
So my question for you is. What is the best 4.1 ROM to use? What is the most stable that has all of the features of my stock OS?
Also what tutorials do you guys suggest. I was planning on using the ones found here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155576. What does GSM mean btw?
Sorry for being so clueless on this. Thanks for the help guys!
Well im kind of nooby to, but i can tell you what gsm means. It means a sim card based phone or network (gsm phone, gsm network, etc.). Such as T-Mobile or ATT. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_identity_module
The opposite of GSM is CDMA (CDMA based network, CDMA based phone), you don't need a sim card for your phone, I guess your phone comes programmed to whatever carrier. Major networks are Verizon and Sprint.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_division_multiple_access
GSM phones are easier to switch carriers with, just unlock your phone and pop in what ever sim card from any carrier you want (although you may face limited functionality, such as only 2g).
If your razr has any Verizon branding (Verizon logo) its the CDMA xt912, or you can tell its CDMA if on the back of the phone it says xt912, and by going into "Settings"> "About Phone" (scroll down)> "Model Number". The GSM variant has no Verizon branding and has an xt910 on the back, and by going into "Settings"> "About Phone" (scroll down)> "Model Number". So when people say xt910 its GSM and xt912 its CDMA. Do not install roms for the other phone (if you have GSM do not install a CDMA rom, vice versa, unless you use patches such as this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805380, make sure the rom you want is supported).
The rom i use is CM10.1 (cyanmod 10.1) its really stable accept for me, camera doesn't work (I usually carry my "un-hacked", other phone with me so it doesn't matter) Its based of of 4.2.2 here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028020
and here is the link for the video tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rw8qfomMBo
mr.noob said:
Well im kind of nooby to, but i can tell you what gsm means. It means a sim card based phone or network (gsm phone, gsm network, etc.). Such as T-Mobile or ATT. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_identity_module
The opposite of GSM is CDMA (CDMA based network, CDMA based phone), you don't need a sim card for your phone, I guess your phone comes programmed to whatever carrier. Major networks are Verizon and Sprint.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_division_multiple_access
GSM phones are easier to switch carriers with, just unlock your phone and pop in what ever sim card from any carrier you want (although you may face limited functionality, such as only 2g).
If your razr has any Verizon branding (Verizon logo) its the CDMA xt912, or you can tell its CDMA if on the back of the phone it says xt912, and by going into "Settings"> "About Phone" (scroll down)> "Model Number". The GSM variant has no Verizon branding and has an xt910 on the back, and by going into "Settings"> "About Phone" (scroll down)> "Model Number". So when people say xt910 its GSM and xt912 its CDMA. Do not install roms for the other phone (if you have GSM do not install a CDMA rom, vice versa, unless you use patches such as this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805380, make sure the rom you want is supported).
The rom i use is CM10.1 (cyanmod 10.1) its really stable accept for me, camera doesn't work (I usually carry my "un-hacked", other phone with me so it doesn't matter) Its based of of 4.2.2 here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028020
and here is the link for the video tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rw8qfomMBo
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Thanks so much for the response. I was worried for a second. Well I found out earlier today what the difference between CDMA and GSM. Mine is the xt912. Thanks again for clearing that up for me.
As for the ROM I believe that the 10.1 is based off of 4.2 where as 10 is based off of 4.1. I'm looking for a 4.1 ROM that has all the features including the camera and everything I'd expect from my phone. I don't mind it being old or anything. I'd actually prefer it. Can anyone help with that? Suggest a ROM to use? I've been looking around all day today and didn't find anything that looked that great. I wouldn't mind CM9 if it was more stable. Just looking for one that isn't based off of 4.2.
Thanks again for the response though! It was very helpful.
ThomasPaine said:
Thanks so much for the response. I was worried for a second. Well I found out earlier today what the difference between CDMA and GSM. Mine is the xt912. Thanks again for clearing that up for me.
As for the ROM I believe that the 10.1 is based off of 4.2 where as 10 is based off of 4.1. I'm looking for a 4.1 ROM that has all the features including the camera and everything I'd expect from my phone. I don't mind it being old or anything. I'd actually prefer it. Can anyone help with that? Suggest a ROM to use? I've been looking around all day today and didn't find anything that looked that great. I wouldn't mind CM9 if it was more stable. Just looking for one that isn't based off of 4.2.
Thanks again for the response though! It was very helpful.
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Yup, no problem.
These roms are all CDMA xt912 roms, these require JB kernel (pretty much JB as your phone's stock rom) If you do not have JB official as your stock here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083129
(If you don't have already) Your going to need Safestrap recovery 3.11 before you can install roms: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391900
Make sure you uninstall any recovery you have installed (such as Bootstrap, and any other Safestrap version) before you install Safestrap 3.11.
Here are some stable roms (with everything working):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2133763
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2109581
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128635
BTW I would suggest just sticking to the stock JB rom
I couldn't find any completely stable roms based of the ICS kernel (petty much ICS as your stock rom). If you need help with any thing or run into any problems (I've ran into allot and I've learned how to fix) just message me or post right here. BTW your going to lose root after you update to JB kernel unless you follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083129
mr.noob said:
Yup, no problem.
These roms are all CDMA xt912 roms, these require JB kernel (pretty much JB as your phone's stock rom) If you do not have JB official as your stock here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083129
(If you don't have already) Your going to need Safestrap recovery 3.11 before you can install roms: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391900
Make sure you uninstall any recovery you have installed (such as Bootstrap, and any other Safestrap version) before you install Safestrap 3.11.
Here are some stable roms (with everything working):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2133763
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2109581
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128635
BTW I would suggest just sticking to the stock JB rom
I couldn't find any completely stable roms based of the ICS kernel (petty much ICS as your stock rom). If you need help with any thing or run into any problems (I've ran into allot and I've learned how to fix) just message me or post right here. BTW your going to lose root after you update to JB kernel unless you follow this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083129
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You are my hero amgio! I just updated to JB with the link you gave and tested the the phone and stereo with bluetooth and the tags are working great! This saves me so much trouble. Thanks so much. Everything is working great! Thanks again man.
ThomasPaine said:
You are my hero amgio! I just updated to JB with the link you gave and tested the the phone and stereo with bluetooth and the tags are working great! This saves me so much trouble. Thanks so much. Everything is working great! Thanks again man.
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No problem

[Q] confused about main firmware and rom bases

First of all this is my first post. Hello to everyone. I have been searching/reading thru these forums. Great source of info.
Phone info:
Currently S-OFF, unlocked, lateset AT&T 4.4.2 firmware, viperone 6.2.1, twrp
I have a pretty good comprehension of how to install or revert pretty much anything that can be done to this phone and have done so with great success. What I don't understand is the relationship between the firmware base of an RUU and the build of any given ROM. How is it that a custom Rom based off let's say x.xx.401.x work with x.xx.502.x main version? The devs say to update to the most current available firmware. Does that mean I have to flash a firmware base that matches what the Rom base for optimal performance? Because I originally thought that was the case and when I did my phone developed syncing issues particularly with the stock mail and weather apps. They would only sync over WiFi. Everything else about the phone worked as normal. Believing there was a problem with the Rom I flashed a few different popular roms on here. Always returning to full AT&T stock first. I later fully converted to GPE and to my surprise everything worked as normal. So I then converted to stock developer edition by way of zip flash and RUU exe. (By the way, when I say stock I mean s-off & unlocked but otherwise factory.) Received all the ota's. Main version would show as x.xx.1540.x. supposedly this would make my phone a dev edition with AT&T as the provider. And yet the syncing problems returned. So once again I returned back to factory AT&T 4.4.2 and all returned to normal. I then decided to try and use a Rom based off 4.4.2 and not one from 4.4.3; expecting the syncing issues to return only this time they didn't. So now I am really confused.
My questions are:
If coming from 4.4.2 factory firmware, is it best to run a Rom from the same base or am I doing something wrong and I should be able to use a Rom from a newer base on an older firmware?
If the developer edition and GPE can be carried by AT&T then why was I having syncing issues with the developer edition and not GPE?
I thought by being s-off I should be able to flash any RUU from any carrier without problems, just that I would be limited to the network capabilities of the actual service provider.
Everything I know about this stuff I learned from this forum. But I think I missed something.
My AT&T M7 always works best on the stock software.
The only thing I could figure is that AT&T have refined the software and radio so well that all the other versions pale in comparison.
I noticed the Developers Edition always had a horrible Bluetooth and WiFi radio. Signal strength was always weak compared to the stock AT&T software.
To answer your questions
Flash any version Roms you want on the latest AT&T firmware. And you'll have the best your phone can be.
clsA said:
My AT&T M7 always works best on the stock software.
The only thing I could figure is that AT&T have refined the software and radio so well that all the other versions pale in comparison.
I noticed the Developers Edition always had a horrible Bluetooth and WiFi radio. Signal strength was always weak compared to the stock AT&T software.
To answer your questions
Flash any version Roms you want on the latest AT&T firmware. And you'll have the best your phone can be.
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I get so mixed up with all the terms being used interchangeably. So to clarify, as long as I am using the latest firmware from AT&T (currently 5.12.502.2 kk4.4.2), I can flash any custom ROM base. Whether it is based on 4.4.2 or higher. Correct?
I still want to know why I experienced the sync problems while running the factory x.xx.1540.x dev edition but not with the GPE. I never tried the factory x.xx.401.x WWE firmware either. However, I just got an sim unlock code from AT&T earlier today. I'm gonna try that maybe tomorrow and see if it makes a difference altho I don't believe it should. And I'm not gonna switch to a different provider.
Honestly, I was happy with my phone before I got wrapped up in all of this. I just decided to tinker with the phone and the mod bug has bitten.
ANGRY_robert said:
I get so mixed up with all the terms being used interchangeably. So to clarify, as long as I am using the latest firmware from AT&T (currently 5.12.502.2 kk4.4.2), I can flash any custom ROM base. Whether it is based on 4.4.2 or higher. Correct?
I still want to know why I experienced the sync problems while running the factory x.xx.1540.x dev edition but not with the GPE. I never tried the factory x.xx.401.x WWE firmware either. However, I just got an sim unlock code from AT&T earlier today. I'm gonna try that maybe tomorrow and see if it makes a difference altho I don't believe it should. And I'm not gonna switch to a different provider.
Honestly, I was happy with my phone before I got wrapped up in all of this. I just decided to tinker with the phone and the mod bug has bitten.
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I think I figured this out. I continued to flash different ROMs and firmwares with the same results as I posted in the OP. Then earlier tonight I decided to try to convert to developer edition again (x.xx.1540.x) and flashed an ruu.zip, went thru the setup process, and as before the same issues returned. Then I had an idea; lets try something I haven't done yet. I pulled the SD card and factory reset the phone. After I completed the basic setup process I inserted the SD card and let the phone do its thing. The phone now works as it should (same as it does with the AT&T xx.502.x firmware installed).
Just figured I would pass this along.
Cheers
I give up
I thought I had this figured out. Last night after to converting to dev edition with all updates, everything seemed normal. I flashed the latest viperone rom as it is the rom I want. Turn the phone on this morning and the sync problems are present once again. I have searched thru a tom of pages on this sight alone. I cant find an answer. So its back to stock at&t.
I solved the problem. Incorrect settings in 4636 menu.

About flash stock back and LP 5

I have stock rom from nandroid backup that i've downloaded. android 4.4.2.
So the question goes like that, AT&T release the OTA 4.4.4 yet?
If so, why can't i see the OTA?
I have stock root does it a problem ? should i remove root? if so how i do that?
I need to make stock bootloader and all that stuff?
Last question, when AT&T will release the android lolipop 5 ?
ben33891471 said:
I have stock rom from nandroid backup that i've downloaded. android 4.4.2.
So the question goes like that, AT&T release the OTA 4.4.4 yet?
If so, why can't i see the OTA?
I have stock root does it a problem ? should i remove root? if so how i do that?
I need to make stock bootloader and all that stuff?
Last question, when AT&T will release the android lolipop 5 ?
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I hesitate to answer this because so much is already in posts and threads....
1. AT&T has released the 4.4.4 OTA already
2. I don't know why you can't see it. Are you using an AT&T SIM card? Are you logged onto the AT&T network?
3. Root doesn't matter, but a stock recovery is required to actually install the update (but not to download it)
4. Stock bootloader isn't required. I don't know if it needs to be locked or not (probably not - just guessing).
5. Please contact AT&T for the answer to your version 5 update question.
DanGeorges said:
I hesitate to answer this because so much is already in posts and threads....
1. AT&T has released the 4.4.4 OTA already
2. I don't know why you can't see it. Are you using an AT&T SIM card? Are you logged onto the AT&T network?
3. Root doesn't matter, but a stock recovery is required to actually install the update (but not to download it)
4. Stock bootloader isn't required. I don't know if it needs to be locked or not (probably not - just guessing).
5. Please contact AT&T for the answer to your version 5 update question.
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about 2, i dont think..
about 3, how i flash or whatever it called, the stock recovery?
ben33891471 said:
about 2, i dont think..
about 3, how i flash or whatever it called, the stock recovery?
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If you're not using an AT&T SIM card or on the AT&T network, you will not be able to receive an update from AT&T. I'm not sure how you thought that might happen.
Please search this XDA forum on how to install a recovery (stock or otherwise). There are LOTS of threads on this. And if you don't know what it is, you probably shouldn't be mucking around with your phone yet. Read as much as possible first - If you don't, you'll be asking how to unbrick your phone.
DanGeorges said:
If you're not using an AT&T SIM card or on the AT&T network, you will not be able to receive an update from AT&T. I'm not sure how you thought that might happen.
Please search this XDA forum on how to install a recovery (stock or otherwise). There are LOTS of threads on this. And if you don't know what it is, you probably shouldn't be mucking around with your phone yet. Read as much as possible first - If you don't, you'll be asking how to unbrick your phone.
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I'm from Israel so i dont think i connected to AT&T network.. My phone is from at&t but my carrer newtork is Orange(Israel)
So that means i can't update my phone ever?
kinda weird, my brother have m8 but T- Mobile and he is already have recived the OTA 4.44 a long time ago.
ben33891471 said:
I'm from Israel so i dont think i connected to AT&T network.. My phone is from at&t but my carrer newtork is Orange(Israel)
So that means i can't update my phone ever?
kinda weird, my brother have m8 but T- Mobile and he is already have recived the OTA 4.44 a long time ago.
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OK - here's the scoop:
1. If you've put an Orange SIM card into your unlocked HTC One M8 (AT&T branded), it is an Orange device now. AT&T is just a label on the phone (logo on the lower back of the device).
2. If Orange Israel releases an update, you will most likely get it. Both T-Mobile and AT&T released updates about a month ago, which is why your brother got the update on T-Mobile.
3. You can still update your M8 to version 4.4.4 - but you'll need to ensure you have the proper firmware installed or you'll have problems. Version 4.4.4 has a different data structure than 4.4.2.
Again - read up on the general and Q/A threads on this forum. You can get your device updated to whatever version you want, it's just a matter of reading.
DanGeorges said:
OK - here's the scoop:
1. If you've put an Orange SIM card into your unlocked HTC One M8 (AT&T branded), it is an Orange device now. AT&T is just a label on the phone (logo on the lower back of the device).
2. If Orange Israel releases an update, you will most likely get it. Both T-Mobile and AT&T released updates about a month ago, which is why your brother got the update on T-Mobile.
3. You can still update your M8 to version 4.4.4 - but you'll need to ensure you have the proper firmware installed or you'll have problems. Version 4.4.4 has a different data structure than 4.4.2.
Again - read up on the general and Q/A threads on this forum. You can get your device updated to whatever version you want, it's just a matter of reading.
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That's such a headache .. I'll just stay with the nandrid backup i guess.. i almost bricked my phone a month ago, but fixed it somehow..
This whole thing is complicated.. was so much easier on the galaxy 4 to flash roms and what not..
ben33891471 said:
That's such a headache .. I'll just stay with the nandrid backup i guess.. i almost bricked my phone a month ago, but fixed it somehow..
This whole thing is complicated.. was so much easier on the galaxy 4 to flash roms and what not..
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Question - is the ROM on your phone from AT&T or from Orange, or was it flashed from some other source? The ROM is specific to a device, not a carrier, so you SHOULD be able to flash the ROM of your choice, as long as it works with the device (but keep in mind the fact that you will need a ROM for the GSM version of the M8, as opposed to, say, a Verizon or Sprint variant).
If it's from AT&T, you may be able to apply the updates from saved OTA file (not sure how to apply, but it can be done).
DanGeorges said:
Question - is the ROM on your phone from AT&T or from Orange, or was it flashed from some other source? The ROM is specific to a device, not a carrier, so you SHOULD be able to flash the ROM of your choice, as long as it works with the device (but keep in mind the fact that you will need a ROM for the GSM version of the M8, as opposed to, say, a Verizon or Sprint variant).
If it's from AT&T, you may be able to apply the updates from saved OTA file (not sure how to apply, but it can be done).
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This is a nandroid backup and yes this one is AT&T rom.
I want to flash the ViperOne 3.2.1. i've been with 1.7.1 version but didn't really like it. a lot of bugs..
I want something with lollipop 5. and a STRONG battery , of course a smoothly rom with no bugs.
ben33891471 said:
This is a nandroid backup and yes this one is AT&T rom.
I want to flash the ViperOne 3.2.1. i've been with 1.7.1 version but didn't really like it. a lot of bugs..
I want something with lollipop 5. and a STRONG battery , of course a smoothly rom with no bugs.
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I flashed Viper 3.2.1, and it worked nicely. Make sure to update your firmware before installing.
I also tried an L version 5 ROM, but didn't like the fact that it didn't work with Xposed modules, which I like and use.
DanGeorges said:
OK - here's the scoop:
1. If you've put an Orange SIM card into your unlocked HTC One M8 (AT&T branded), it is an Orange device now. AT&T is just a label on the phone (logo on the lower back of the device).
2. If Orange Israel releases an update, you will most likely get it. Both T-Mobile and AT&T released updates about a month ago, which is why your brother got the update on T-Mobile.
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These points are not correct. Yes, the phone is being run on the OP's local network Orange (not AT&T). But the phone will only receive and be able to install an Orange OTA if its on Orange software and Orange CID/MID. If its running AT&T software, it will not receive OTA is most foreign countries. AT&T is the oddball here, as most other variants will still update on other networks. AT&T devices must be connected to the AT&T network to get official OTA.
The way to update the device by official means (when not on AT&T's network) would be the AT&T RUU.
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ben33891471 said:
That's such a headache ...
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If you don't want such headaches, don't buy carrier branded US devices for use in other countries. I strongly believe this.
ben33891471 said:
I'll just stay with the nandrid backup i guess.. i almost bricked my phone a month ago, but fixed it somehow..
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You didn't "almost brick" the device. A brick means that you phone is totally inoperable to the point the screen doesn't even power on; and the only way to recover is by opening the phone and JTAG or replacing the mainboard.
You probably just put the phone in a condition where it would not boot; which is a fairly common issue that crops up for just about anyone modding phones, at one time or another. And how to recover from such conditions is pretty basic info; and something anyone who is modding phones should now how to do.
I'm sorry if any of this seems harsh. But I believe the above to be more FACT than opinion, and for your own good. I agree with the former notions that you (and anyone who want to mod the hone) should always research thoroughly and understand before messing with the phone.
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ben33891471 said:
Last question, when AT&T will release the android lolipop 5 ?
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God knows. There is never any firm release date for AT&T (one of the many reasons to avoid US carrier branded devices if you are in another country). They just released 4.4.4 a couple weeks ago. It was delayed for months due to issues implementing Voice Over LTE. Hopefully, the LP update won't suffer the same length of delay.
redpoint73 said:
These points are not correct. Yes, the phone is being run on the OP's local network Orange (not AT&T). But the phone will only receive and be able to install an Orange OTA if its on Orange software and Orange CID/MID. If its running AT&T software, it will not receive OTA is most foreign countries. AT&T is the oddball here, as most other variants will still update on other networks. AT&T devices must be connected to the AT&T network to get official OTA.
The way to update the device by official means (when not on AT&T's network) would be the AT&T RUU.
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If you don't want such headaches, don't buy carrier branded US devices for use in other countries. I strongly believe this.
You didn't "almost brick" the device. A brick means that you phone is totally inoperable to the point the screen doesn't even power on; and the only way to recover is by opening the phone and JTAG or replacing the mainboard.
You probably just put the phone in a condition where it would not boot; which is a fairly common issue that crops up for just about anyone modding phones, at one time or another. And how to recover from such conditions is pretty basic info; and something anyone who is modding phones should now how to do.
I'm sorry if any of this seems harsh. But I believe the above to be more FACT than opinion, and for your own good. I agree with the former notions that you (and anyone who want to mod the hone) should always research thoroughly and understand before messing with the phone.
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Correct. I updated my responses - I thought that the OP had an Orange M8 ROM installed.
ben33891471 said:
I want something with lollipop 5. and a STRONG battery , of course a smoothly rom with no bugs.
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Since there is no LP stock ROM or "official" firmware for AT&T, you won't be able to run Sense LP at this time unless you have s-off (and can then update the firmware by "unofficial" means).
You can however flash a Lollipop GPE or AOSP ROM, but you will still likely need to update to at least Android 4.4.4 to get a firmware and/or hboot that supports the specific ROM.
Battery and performance are always going to vary from one user to the next. Variables such as how one uses the phones; and especially your local reception will greatly impact battery life. There is never going to be one ROM that has "strong" battery for every user in every situation. Your best bet is to try the ROMs out, and see what works best for your situation.
DanGeorges said:
I flashed Viper 3.2.1, and it worked nicely. Make sure to update your firmware before installing.
I also tried an L version 5 ROM, but didn't like the fact that it didn't work with Xposed modules, which I like and use.
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Alright , there is a nandroid backup 4.4.4? i think this is the only way i can update my phone, if this possible.
redpoint73 said:
These points are not correct. Yes, the phone is being run on the OP's local network Orange (not AT&T). But the phone will only receive and be able to install an Orange OTA if its on Orange software and Orange CID/MID. If its running AT&T software, it will not receive OTA is most foreign countries. AT&T is the oddball here, as most other variants will still update on other networks. AT&T devices must be connected to the AT&T network to get official OTA.
The way to update the device by official means (when not on AT&T's network) would be the AT&T RUU.
---------- Post added at 10:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:26 AM ----------
If you don't want such headaches, don't buy carrier branded US devices for use in other countries. I strongly believe this.
You didn't "almost brick" the device. A brick means that you phone is totally inoperable to the point the screen doesn't even power on; and the only way to recover is by opening the phone and JTAG or replacing the mainboard.
You probably just put the phone in a condition where it would not boot; which is a fairly common issue that crops up for just about anyone modding phones, at one time or another. And how to recover from such conditions is pretty basic info; and something anyone who is modding phones should now how to do.
I'm sorry if any of this seems harsh. But I believe the above to be more FACT than opinion, and for your own good. I agree with the former notions that you (and anyone who want to mod the hone) should always research thoroughly and understand before messing with the phone.
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God knows. There is never any firm release date for AT&T (one of the many reasons to avoid US carrier branded devices if you are in another country). They just released 4.4.4 a couple weeks ago. It was delayed for months due to issues implementing Voice Over LTE. Hopefully, the LP update won't suffer the same length of delay.
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I don't know what RUU means.. There is a simple way to update to 4.4.4 ?
redpoint73 said:
Since there is no LP stock ROM or "official" firmware for AT&T, you won't be able to run Sense LP at this time unless you have s-off (and can then update the firmware by "unofficial" means).
You can however flash a Lollipop GPE or AOSP ROM, but you will still likely need to update to at least Android 4.4.4 to get a firmware and/or hboot that supports the specific ROM.
Battery and performance are always going to vary from one user to the next. Variables such as how one uses the phones; and especially your local reception will greatly impact battery life. There is never going to be one ROM that has "strong" battery for every user in every situation. Your best bet is to try the ROMs out, and see what works best for your situation.
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ben33891471 said:
I don't know what RUU means.. There is a simple way to update to 4.4.4 ?
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RUU = ROM update utility. Its an official .exe (Windows PC required) that completely re-images the phone, including stock ROM, stock recovery and all firmware.
If this is the path you choose, its pretty simple:
Download the RUU to your PC.
Backup any personal data, as the phone will be wiped by RUU.
Connect the phone to PC in fastboot mode.
Relock the bootloader with command fastboot oem lock (not required with s-off).
Simply run the RUU .exe, and it will do the rest (you click a few confirmations dialogs, but that is it).
RUU and more detailed instructions at the following link, under "Manual system update instructions": http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m8-att/news/
As RUU installs stock recovery, you will need to unlock the bootloader again, and flash custom recovery again if you want to root or flash custom ROMs.
redpoint73 said:
RUU = ROM update utility. Its an official .exe (Windows PC required) that completely re-images the phone, including stock ROM, stock recovery and all firmware.
If this is the path you choose, its pretty simple:
Download the RUU to your PC.
Backup any personal data, as the phone will be wiped by RUU.
Connect the phone to PC in fastboot mode.
Relock the bootloader with command fastboot oem lock (not required with s-off).
Simply run the RUU .exe, and it will do the rest (you click a few confirmations dialogs, but that is it).
RUU and more detailed instructions at the following link, under "Manual system update instructions": http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m8-att/news/
As RUU installs stock recovery, you will need to unlock the bootloader again, and flash custom recovery again if you want to root or flash custom ROMs.
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Which ROM do you think the best. I'm thinking about ViperOne 3.2.1 , Android Revolution hd 34.0 or CM 12 .
I really like the design of the CM12 but i heard that the boomsound ain't works, is that true? that's means the quality of the speakers will be very bad?
ben33891471 said:
Which ROM do you think the best. I'm thinking about ViperOne 3.2.1 , Android Revolution hd 34.0 or CM 12 .
I really like the design of the CM12 but i heard that the boomsound ain't works, is that true? that's means the quality of the speakers will be very bad?
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I don't believe in recommending "best" ROMs. What's best for me, may no be the best for you. Especially since our network requirements are very different. And the choice of ROM is also largely a matter of personal preference and taste. In fact, until recently the XDA rules did not allow posting of "best ROM" threads as the discussions are largely irrelevant, and just resulted in fanboy pissing contests.
You really can't go wrong with any of the mentioned ROMs.
Although be aware that current ARHD is based on Android 5.0. So you need to update to Lollipop firmware or else suffer major bugs (broken WiFi is the most common). For the AT&T version of this phone, you can only update to LP firmware if you have s-off (until a LP is released by AT&T, for you by RUU).
Yes, any features that require Sense framework will not be present on CM12, including Boomsound and dual camera. Whether the sound is "bad" or not, I can't say. I'm not a CM12 user. But remember that Boomsound is just a software enhancement. The high quality of the speakers (for a smartphone) is largely a factor in the sound quality. If you like CM12 design, why not flash it (once on the proper hboot) and see for yourself what you think?
redpoint73 said:
I don't believe in recommending "best" ROMs. What's best for me, may no be the best for you. Especially since our network requirements are very different. And the choice of ROM is also largely a matter of personal preference and taste. In fact, until recently the XDA rules did not allow posting of "best ROM" threads as the discussions are largely irrelevant, and just resulted in fanboy pissing contests.
You really can't go wrong with any of the mentioned ROMs.
Although be aware that current ARHD is based on Android 5.0. So you need to update to Lollipop firmware or else suffer major bugs (broken WiFi is the most common). For the AT&T version of this phone, you can only update to LP firmware if you have s-off (until a LP is released by AT&T, for you by RUU).
Yes, any features that require Sense framework will not be present on CM12, including Boomsound and dual camera. Whether the sound is "bad" or not, I can't say. I'm not a CM12 user. But remember that Boomsound is just a software enhancement. The high quality of the speakers (for a smartphone) is largely a factor in the sound quality. If you like CM12 design, why not flash it (once on the proper hboot) and see for yourself what you think?
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The RUU file isn't open. I boot into bootloader and type the command but then this says something failed and reboot my device. Then i boot into fastboot again and i saw its says relocked so i guess that's ok.
Fine, tried to plug into my PC while the phone is awake and open, the file can't seems to open, not even when i plug it while im in the bootloader.
did i do something wrong?
ben33891471 said:
The RUU file isn't open. I boot into bootloader and type the command but then this says something failed and reboot my device. Then i boot into fastboot again and i saw its says relocked so i guess that's ok.
Fine, tried to plug into my PC while the phone is awake and open, the file can't seems to open, not even when i plug it while im in the bootloader.
did i do something wrong?
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Make sure you have HTC drivers installed on your PC. Phone should be connected in in fastboot mode.
If the RUU application doesn't even open, it doesn't sound like an issue with the phone. Even if there was an issue with the phone (wrong RUU , unlocked bootloader, etc.) the RUU would still open and start to run, but it would just give you an error message telling you what was wrong. Maybe just a bad download, try to download again.
redpoint73 said:
Make sure you have HTC drivers installed on your PC. Phone should be connected in in fastboot mode.
If the RUU application doesn't even open, it doesn't sound like an issue with the phone. Even if there was an issue with the phone (wrong RUU , unlocked bootloader, etc.) the RUU would still open and start to run, but it would just give you an error message telling you what was wrong. Maybe just a bad download, try to download again.
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Bro, i managed to upgrade to 4.4.4 . I flashed ViperOne 3.2.1 at first, didn't like it, so i tried android revolution hd 34.0 and this ROM is amazing, love the design love it!
Have only 2 problems so far, first, the TV app , just got every 1-2 min a message: TV stopped .. so i kinda deleted this, but fine i can live without it.
But the problem that actually do me a troubles, is the screenshot, when i try to take a shot of my screen it's says. couldn't take a screenshot, not remaining space or program does not support..
Sorry about my English if you can't understand what i say..

Flashing a Custom Rom

I just rooted my HTC One M8 and I was wondering if I could still flash roms without having s off because my phone has everything required besides the s off portion but I wanted to see if there's a way I can still flash roms because I want to upgrade it to sense 7
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No, you don't have to be s-off, unless you are flashing a custom, non stock rom like cyanogen mod. I assume you are referring to the Skydragon rom which purports to have the new Sense 7 UI when you say you want to flash a rom with sense 7. Personally I would go s-off before doing anything as it makes reverting back to older firmware much easier. Just scan the q&a thread for all the problems people who are s-on have when jumping from kit kat to lollipop or to dev editions, gpe, etc. Trust me, the $25 spent on Sunshine will be worth the time and headaches you'll get when you start getting flash happy, but that's just my opinion.
As mentioned above, you don't "need" to have s-off to flash a ROM, literally anyway. The ROM will flash, and boot (eventually), and mostly work. But if you are currently on KitKat, and try to go to any Lollipop Sense ROM, its very common you will have some serious issues such as extreme long boot times (10 min or more) with no boot animation (making many folks think it isn't booting at all), broken WiFi, and possibly audio issues. All due to outdated firmware (partitions such as hboot, radio, and more that don't flash with the ROM). And s-off is needed to update to Lollipop firmware, until AT&T releases the LP update officially. In that case, you can update to the proper firmware by official OTA or RUU.

[Q] ROM Selection

Hi All,
Had my Verizon G3 for a bit now and everything was grand.... pre-lollipop. Post-Lollipop I've been stuck with the no notifications while on WiFi bug and for someone who spends literally 98% of my time on either my home or work WiFi this has simply become untenable for me. I'd like to root and go to, preferably, a Lollipop ROM that is not plagued by the same issues, or if I have to go back to KitKat then a ROM based on that (or perhaps there is a non-rooted solution here?).
All these things said, I've done the root/custom ROM thing back in the days of my Droid Incredible and honestly found it quite off putting to have to constantly keep up to date with ROM updates / Kernel updates / Radio updates, etc. and a lot of those even requiring wiping the phone.
My question to you fine folks is, has the game changed a bit to be a bit more friendly to like a kind of all-in-one here is your ROM/everything package, install it and get going type deal? Or is that still a pipe dream?
I appreciate that there are some steps involved prior to the installing of the ROM and I'm not opposed to those at all, I'm more worried about the nightmarish endless cycle of updates that require wipes / resets / etc. in order to fix the myriad of bugs that used to pop their heads up. I simply just want a ROM to get me through the next year or so until I can move along - and *gasp* allow me to get updates while on WiFi while having the core of the phone still functional.
Perhaps my concerns are those of days past, so please forgive my ignorance.
Any info on the topic and possible ROMs to look into (I was looking at Resurrection Remix) would be much appreciated.
Thanks! :good:
scrdy said:
Hi All,
Had my Verizon G3 for a bit now and everything was grand.... pre-lollipop. Post-Lollipop I've been stuck with the no notifications while on WiFi bug and for someone who spends literally 98% of my time on either my home or work WiFi this has simply become untenable for me. I'd like to root and go to, preferably, a Lollipop ROM that is not plagued by the same issues, or if I have to go back to KitKat then a ROM based on that (or perhaps there is a non-rooted solution here?).
All these things said, I've done the root/custom ROM thing back in the days of my Droid Incredible and honestly found it quite off putting to have to constantly keep up to date with ROM updates / Kernel updates / Radio updates, etc. and a lot of those even requiring wiping the phone.
My question to you fine folks is, has the game changed a bit to be a bit more friendly to like a kind of all-in-one here is your ROM/everything package, install it and get going type deal? Or is that still a pipe dream?
I appreciate that there are some steps involved prior to the installing of the ROM and I'm not opposed to those at all, I'm more worried about the nightmarish endless cycle of updates that require wipes / resets / etc. in order to fix the myriad of bugs that used to pop their heads up. I simply just want a ROM to get me through the next year or so until I can move along - and *gasp* allow me to get updates while on WiFi while having the core of the phone still functional.
Perhaps my concerns are those of days past, so please forgive my ignorance.
Any info on the topic and possible ROMs to look into (I was looking at Resurrection Remix) would be much appreciated.
Thanks! :good:
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At this point, most any ROM you install will require updating. There are really no ROMs that are completely trouble free.
That said, running stock rooted may be your best choice. Rooting stock will allow you the option to block OTA updates. With root you will also be able to remove any pesky apps you do not require from LG.
Thanks for your insight. Perhaps I'll look at rooting and running a stock KitKat based ROM. If you could possibly point me in the direction of finding stock KitKat ROMs to flash to it would be much appreciated.
(sorry for posting in the wrong forum the first time)
Thanks
Jasmine 4.0 is a good 4.4 ROM. It can be found in the 7.0 thread. Just look in the first few posts. Sky dragon is also good.
Don't most roms have OTA's built in anymore? I had roms on my S4 and never had to worry, I would update and be fine, 0 wipes updating roms (Unless I was changing roms completely) and even then I have everything back up regularly so there is no hassle getting it all back.
Illogi.xbone said:
Don't most roms have OTA's built in anymore? I had roms on my S4 and never had to worry, I would update and be fine, 0 wipes updating roms (Unless I was changing roms completely) and even then I have everything back up regularly so there is no hassle getting it all back.
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I know some of the custom CM12 and CM12.1-based ROMs I've tried have a potentially working OTA method built into the ROM. For various reasons they're not all necessarily implemented just yet, though - probably because there's just too many constant updates to the source code to make OTAs realistic.
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I know some of the custom CM12 and CM12.1-based ROMs I've tried have a potentially working OTA method built into the ROM. For various reasons they're not all necessarily implemented just yet, though - probably because there's just too many constant updates to the source code to make OTAs realistic.
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Very true. I do know though that CM does have OTAs. I think another part is that most CM 12 and 12.1 based roms don't change the source for the update. So you won't get any since it is no longer a CM rom and it isn't looking for the one you are using.
Stay off the nightly train and you won't have to update much at all. A dirty flash every couple of months, topped with some Gapps. I get notifications on wifi all the time. Only stock ROM tries to force you to update anyway.

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