Right, I've been reading conflicting reports that the Edge Apps do/don't work on third party launchers.
Can someone clarify this for us? Will the Edge apps work with a third party launcher such as Nova? I was convinced to buy the Edge but if this is another limitation I will be seriously re-consider my options.
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I was going to disable the Edge apps anyway, so if Nova does that for me, it will save me the trouble
Not really sure why the launcher would disable those apps. The only thing you lose from a 3rd party launcher are TW launcher widgets, but not TW apps or widgets. For instance, multi-window still works with Nova.
Actually the guy from AndroidCentral revised his answer and indeed Edge apps DO work with 3rd party launchers
Check this out and ask him whatever else you want to know.
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Can you ask him how many GB free there is in the 32gb unit after set up?
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Can you ask him how many GB free there is in the 32gb unit after set up?
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If read several places say 23GB out of the box... should be a little less when all the Google apps, etc get updated.
From Talkandroid:
Straight out of the box, the 32GB model will have a mere 23GB of free storage, with a whopping 9GB being taken up by Samsung’s firmware. More specifically, 6.5GB has been assigned to the operating system, with 2.5GB being allotted to stock applications, which can, of course, be disabled, but not uninstalled.
The 64GB variant will ship with around 54GB of clear space, whilst the beastly 128GB version will have 118GB free for all of your apps, documents, pictures, videos and music.
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I apologize, I was trying to make a joke. That thread on AC had the storage question asked 20 times. At some point, it had to be trolling
On the bright side, now everyone at XDA knows.
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I have searched on numerous fronts but have never found the solution to my problem. The issue is, on the vibrant I have 2 GB internal memory for app installation, with 512 mb ram (I think) to run the apps, in addition to 16 GB of internal storage for files and what not.
However, having 1.4 GB 'app' memory free currently, whenever I install any further apps, some of the existing apps start to crash/restart whenever I need to use them. For example, I use LPP, and when I install some more apps on the phone, LPP homescreen icons disappear whatever action I do (open an app, use an app, etc), and then they reload for about 15-20 seconds when I go to the homescreen again. I have about 35-55 MB RAM free at any given time.
My question is, why give 2 GB app installation memory when you still cannot use it to install apps since they start giving you all sort of problems? I am running stock t-mobile eclair and have recently rooted my phone.
you know what, i think all you need is a task killer or clean your phone or something.. just find a way to free up some space.. 35-55MB is hella low.
Hmm, whats the normal free ram for stock 2.1 vibrant supposed to be? I have not tinkered around with my phone much so am wondering how it could have gotten low to that extent. All the apps that I use are also well known and from reputable developers...
Got any clues?
dunno when i was running 2.1 i was always at 80-120 free range with apps running..
try getting a task killer and kill all running apps..
also check settings > applications > running services > tap and kill processes you dont need running
This still does not answer my question about why there is 2 GB of app memory available...? regardless of RAM..?
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This still does not answer my question about why there is 2 GB of app memory available...? regardless of RAM..?
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Incase people want 2 gigs worth of apps? and if i remember right you have 16gigs storage and then 2gigs of that is partitioned for apps
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Incase people want 2 gigs worth of apps? and if i remember right you have 16gigs storage and then 2gigs of that is partitioned for apps
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Yeah, but then what about what I wrote in my first post? It does not make sense if you can 'theoretically' install 2 GB worth of apps but renders the phone useless in function?
Anyone who is actually using close to 2 GB worth of memory for apps on vibrant/Galaxy S?? Would love to hear what you have to say.
Hi Everyone!
I've lurked in the xda-forum awhile. I had a HTC Touch HD ("Blackstone" I think it was) about 4 years ago, rommed it with forum help but still wound up not liking the device so I got rid of it shortly thereafter and went back to simple candybar phone. Got an international/unlocked Galaxy S3 about three weeks ago and it is my first smartphone since then and my first Android phone! Very happy so far but I have several questions so far for some minor irks.
1. Memory management - I am using the GO task manager and my memory usage is regularly between 70%-90%. It's also annoying that the device has 1gb of RAM but it shows up as 779m. Is this high usage normal? I'm guessing it is due to a lot of stock boatware which leads me to my next point.
2. Startup app management - I have tried several apps that promise to manage startup applications but nothing seems to work very well. The best one I've seen so far is Startup Cleaner 2.0 but still things like Google Talk, TripIt and some games still start even though I select them to be disabled on startup. Is there a better utility or is this a weird thing with Android or ICS?
3. Bloatware - Is there a way to uninstall the stock bloatware I don't use like Google Talk, Google+ or ChatON?
4. SD card - I purchased a Sandisk 64gb Micro Ultra SDXC memory card and slapped it in. It shows up when I connect the phone to my PC and I have been transferring files and storing camera pics with it successfully. However, the one thing I can't seem to do is move any apps to it. It seems any program that is supposed to move apps to the SD card doesn't recognize it. For example, in "App 2 SD" it states: "The Device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated. Moving app to SD function may not be supported by this device."
5. ROMs - I did some poking around and it sounds like the Omega might be best for an Android n00b. Does this strip out a lot of the bloatware? Any significant pros/cons of using this over the stock ROM?
6. Gorilla Glass 2.0 - Is this the stuff they invented in Star Trek IV because it is crazy durable!
7. Security applications - I am using Lookout free version. Is anything else recommended more (Avast) or should I supplement Lookout with something else?
I appreciate any and all help and my deepest thanks in advance. Sorry if my questions are of the n00b variety but I'm new to Android smartphones!
- LaptopFTW
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Hi Everyone!
I've lurked in the xda-forum awhile. I had a HTC Touch HD ("Blackstone" I think it was) about 4 years ago, rommed it with forum help but still wound up not liking the device so I got rid of it shortly thereafter and went back to simple candybar phone. Got an international/unlocked Galaxy S3 about three weeks ago and it is my first smartphone since then and my first Android phone! Very happy so far but I have several questions so far for some minor irks.
1. Memory management - I am using the GO task manager and my memory usage is regularly between 70%-90%. It's also annoying that the device has 1gb of RAM but it shows up as 779m. Is this high usage normal? I'm guessing it is due to a lot of stock boatware which leads me to my next point.
Never use task manager, let RAM work for you
2. Startup app management - I have tried several apps that promise to manage startup applications but nothing seems to work very well. The best one I've seen so far is Startup Cleaner 2.0 but still things like Google Talk, TripIt and some games still start even though I select them to be disabled on startup. Is there a better utility or is this a weird thing with Android or ICS?
Freeze with Titanium Backup
3. Bloatware - Is there a way to uninstall the stock bloatware I don't use like Google Talk, Google+ or ChatON?
For easy way, use custom ROM, best CheckROMv2
4. SD card - I purchased a Sandisk 64gb Micro Ultra SDXC memory card and slapped it in. It shows up when I connect the phone to my PC and I have been transferring files and storing camera pics with it successfully. However, the one thing I can't seem to do is move any apps to it. It seems any program that is supposed to move apps to the SD card doesn't recognize it. For example, in "App 2 SD" it states: "The Device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated. Moving app to SD function may not be supported by this device."
Can't move any apps to external anymore,as far I know, you can Bind it data only
5. ROMs - I did some poking around and it sounds like the Omega might be best for an Android n00b. Does this strip out a lot of the bloatware? Any significant pros/cons of using this over the stock ROM?
Best striped ROM is CheckROMv2, any stock apps you need can download from kitchen.
6. Gorilla Glass 2.0 - Is this the stuff they invented in Star Trek IV because it is crazy durable!
Yes durable enough, my screen still naked, not have any hair line yet
7. Security applications - I am using Lookout free version. Is anything else recommended more (Avast) or should I supplement Lookout with something else?
Use Samsung drive, no need anti virus
I appreciate any and all help and my deepest thanks in advance. Sorry if my questions are of the n00b variety but I'm new to Android smartphones!
- LaptopFTW
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My answer below your question ^o^
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Think the last guy covered most things but a couple of thing to add.
You don't need titanium backup or even root to remove apps as Ice Cream Sandwich allows you to disable unwanted apps right from the application management menu. The only system apps you aren't allowed to disable are ones which will break your phone, so you can safely freeze unwanted crapware without worrying about breaking anything.
I'm not entirely sure it's a good idea to start with custom roms straight away, maybe you should spend a week or two on stock and playing with what I mentioned above to learn a bit about Android before you dive into the world of root.
Also never listen to anyone when they say this, that or the other Rom is best. There are many great developers on xda and what suits him or me may not suit you.
At any rate my experience with past androids is that performance and battery life aren't all that different between the roms, it's usually only small tweaks here and there which are visible to the user. For example some will remove certain apps or the boot sound. The exceptions would be roms built from source like Cyanogenmod, Aokp and Miui. These feel very different to the Galaxy S stock Rom, although Cyanogenmod and Aokp feel quite similar to each other.
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Yup, you're right, but I think I answer as best I could. Yeah many good ROM out there, CheckROMv2 is only my suggestions.
About stock Galaxy S3, yeah good enough for casual users. Some user didn't like bloatware, many can't be deleted and need permission to do that. Peace.. ^_^
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Yup, you're right, but I think I answer as best I could. Yeah many good ROM out there, CheckROMv2 is only my suggestions.
About stock Galaxy S3, yeah good enough for casual users. Some user didn't like bloatware, many can't be deleted and need permission to do that. Peace.. ^_^
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That's right you can't delete them but a new feature of ice cream sandwich is that you can freeze them. It's basically the same thing titanium backup does but it works on stock unrooted devices.
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If you ignore the various themed components of custom roms then after my tests their is no real diffrence between any of the custom roms as they basically all have the same inside . Advantage over stock almost nil .
Of course custom roms and custom kernels are at a very early stage of development for the SGS3 so far .
jje
Thanks, everyone for the advice and replies. I'm loving the phone so far but am always looking for ways to tweak and customize.
As many of you have discovered, the S4 comes up way short on storage. Of the 16 gigs promoted, you can only use 9 or so. Then to further complicate matters, apps that allow you to move programs don't work so well on the S4.
A solution for me has been to re-partition the sd card with Mini Partition Tools and then "Link" the app you are moving with Link2SD.
Just by linking 3 native apps, i was able to pic up about 1oo megs (enough that i got rid of the Low Storage warning).
I partitioned a class 4 eight gig card (one that i could afford to loose if partitioning failed) into 2 equal partitions.
Then i linked Amazon, Kendal, and Amazon mp3 native apps with Link2SD. I then unlinked the apps to make sure i could undo the magic.
All apps worked as normal while linked and unlinked.
My S4 is rooted but not unlocked. I have frozen SDM1 as to not take the most recent OTA that allows moving apps to sd cards. I have read that the feature in the new ota really doesn't move the app or at best only moves a small portion.
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ciniob said:
As many of you have discovered, the S4 comes up way short on storage. Of the 16 gigs promoted, you can only use 9 or so. Then to further complicate matters, apps that allow you to move programs don't work so well on the S4.
A solution for me has been to re-partition the sd card with Mini Partition Tools and then "Link" the app you are moving with Link2SD.
Just by linking 3 native apps, i was able to pic up about 1oo megs (enough that i got rid of the Low Storage warning).
I partitioned a class 4 eight gig card (one that i could afford to loose if partitioning failed) into 2 equal partitions.
Then i linked Amazon, Kendal, and Amazon mp3 native apps with Link2SD. I then unlinked the apps to make sure i could undo the magic.
All apps worked as normal while linked and unlinked.
My S4 is rooted but not unlocked. I have frozen SDM1 as to not take the most recent OTA that allows moving apps to sd cards. I have read that the feature in the new ota really doesn't move the app or at best only moves a small portion.
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i just prefer debloating and deleting over this.
if you get rid of all the bloatware, you can get at least a gb out of it, i found.
stuff like Amazon, Kindle, and Amazon mp3 i never use, so meh
I saw this on another forum. Is this true? It would make it unusable to me, and I just ordered one before seeing this. Do we not have at least 12 GB free for apps?
"..an issue I do not know how to resolve. It comes w 4.3 pre installed but the internal storage is not unified (due to USB storage enabled) so just under 2GB is allocated as app storage. This being the setup on older android version we had the option to move individual apps to the secondary partition b within the app option but this being 4.3 this option does not exist so this really puts a damperbn usability of this device."
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I saw this on another forum. Is this true? It would make it unusable to me, and I just ordered one before seeing this. Do we not have at least 12 GB free for apps?
"..an issue I do not know how to resolve. It comes w 4.3 pre installed but the internal storage is not unified (due to USB storage enabled) so just under 2GB is allocated as app storage. This being the setup on older android version we had the option to move individual apps to the secondary partition b within the app option but this being 4.3 this option does not exist so this really puts a damperbn usability of this device."
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I'm guessing this is the US variation of the Mate 2 you are taking about. I already have a lot of apps installed and it's still telling me I have 4.2 gigs available for app storage. Hope that answers your question
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I'm guessing this is the US variation of the Mate 2 you are taking about. I already have a lot of apps installed and it's still telling me I have 4.2 gigs available for app storage. Hope that answers your question
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Thanks! Yes to USA version.
Does anyone know how much memory is available out of the box for apps?
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Thanks! Yes to USA version.
Does anyone know how much memory is available out of the box for apps?
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If you add what it says is available to the what it says I'm using, it totals 6.81 GB. I doubt that includes system apps, as I said I have a lot installed. I had to keep them all on the phone because the ones I moved to the SD card the widgets didn't load on restart and I wasn't getting notifications.
Hope this helps you.
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Thanks!
But 6.81 is pretty bad - some 16gb phones have around 12 gb for apps. What in the world is taking up so much memory? I need to install copilot maps which are over 4 gb plus all the other software I use. Don't know if this is going to work for me. Heck - I have almost 5.52 gb free for apps on a 8gb moto-g phone
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Thanks!
But 6.81 is pretty bad - some 16gb phones have around 12 gb for apps. What in the world is taking up so much memory? I need to install copilot maps which are over 4 gb plus all the other software I use. Don't know if this is going to work for me. Heck - I have almost 5.52 gb free for apps on a 8gb moto-g phone
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Well, screen shots of my internal file system storage. My phone is rooted so I could free up more space deleting some system apps I don't use like Facebook but people had to reinstall the system apps they deleted to get the last update to install, and I don't feel like messing with that. I just disabled them. Can you install your co-pilot apps on the SD card?
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No, I don't think the maps can be loaded on sd card.
Darn - I purchased without checking this out - figured if my 8 gb phone had 5.52 gb free a 16 gb phone would have around 12. My fault for not doing proper research. Everyone was saying how much they like the phone. and I let that sway me. Guess I will send it back as 6.81 gb free in 2014 is almost $99 phone territory.
Looks like copilot is downloading fine. I'll let you know if I have issues after it completes.
It gives you the option to use extsd as default storage.
You are showing 12.69 GB available internal storage for apps. Is this correct? Or is it the 10.50 that is available to apps?
Yes 12.69 available. But when I go into settings > manage apps it states 5.8gb for apps. I believe it uses internal/external for app data, so I believe you'll be OK
check in the copilot options. maybe it has the ability to choose where to save the map data
NOKIA HERE does ... and its awesome btw
I have a questions i saw few mods for other phones these mods give free storage on Google photos Pixel 6 is my new phone before im using oneplus 7 with PixelExperiance on these rom i have free space
Just send a text to Google and ask for your free stuff.
Use code: "free stuff now"
Pixel phones have free Google Photos storage. There's no need for a custom ROM or any mod.
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Pixel phones have free Google Photos storage. There's no need for a custom ROM or any mod.
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No they don't not any more. This is not the case for Pixel 6 and 6 pro.
Google Pixel owners will still get these Google Photos storage perks going forward
Google has long offered perks to Pixel phone owners on Google Photos, some of which still apply under the company's new storage terms.
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Migush said:
Pixel phones have free Google Photos storage. There's no need for a custom ROM or any mod.
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But i have Pixel and i dont have free storage
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But i have Pixel and i dont have free storage
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Read my post just above yours!
The pixel 1 I think still has it
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The pixel 1 I think still has it
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On my oneplus 7 with Pixel experiance have free space i thinking sometimes copy photos to op and from oneplus send to google photos
Just subscribe to Google Drive. At £1.50 for 100GB a month it's hardly expensive.
In fact you can earn that much a month using Google Rewards then use the credit to pay for it
So... pay gooble so that you can feed them your private data? Wouldn't it be better to store your data on your own equipment?
I have 2 google accounts on my devices, when the 1st account got full, I just swapped my 2nd accound and voilá. =D
Any phones up to Pixel 5 still get unlimited Storage Saver in Google Photo, you can simply grab an old Pixel, setup a 2-way sync with FolderSync/SyncThings between the 6's DCIM folder and voila, free photo storage.
I am not sure about you, if there is such hack, I think Google can simply terminate your account and you lose everything, does this worth it to you?
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Any phones up to Pixel 5 still get unlimited Storage Saver in Google Photo, you can simply grab an old Pixel, setup a 2-way sync with FolderSync/SyncThings between the 6's DCIM folder and voila, free photo storage.
I am not sure about you, if there is such hack, I think Google can simply terminate your account and you lose everything, does this worth it to you?
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I have an OG pixel and this is what I do. I use Resilio Sync. Pretty easy to set up. I used to leave the OG Pixel plugged in with a max charge set at 50%. Not taking many photos lately so just turn it on to sync occasionally.
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Just send a text to Google and ask for your free stuff.
Use code: "free stuff now"
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Google just sweetened the deal today.
They have included links to free cloud services. Dropbox, Box, Amazon cloud are just a few.
Pixel Experience, Evo X can offer unlimited back up (no original quality though).
But depends on the ROM & the device & if the dev is going to bake that into the ROM or not.
Root method barely works anymore if you update apps to often :<
With 128 gb of storage, I don't necessarily need to back up to Google photos anymore. After they changed terms last, I stopped, but, the previous backups don't count against my 15 gb storage on Drive. Actually I have 17 gb, due to a promotion way back when, I took the security settings tour. So, now a days, I'm a Amazon prime member, which gives me unlimited photos storage, which is nice, that my wife's Amazon tablet gets the copies automatically when ever I fire up the hotspot to download movies to it. Plus, I can clear storage on my old devices if I really wanted to, and transfer copies there too. For now, I'm using a few of Simple Mobile apps, one calander, and now their gallery app. Amazon photos does the automatic uploads when I'm plugged in. My biggest storage issue, is clearing out most of the 8 gb of Gmail I have neglected. Google Photos, Gmail, and Drive are all on that 17 gb free storage limit.
I was using google photos not to backup pictures from my phone (i do that on my pc) but to upload pictures taken with my camera from different trips and create albums which i share with my friends and colleagues. Now i found the perfect free alternative to google photos - yandex disk. Currently they offer unlimited free storage for photos with original quality. I don't know for how long this will continue but it works great for now.
Yandex
Finds everything
disk.yandex.com
Is there any custom rom for the P6 that has the unlimited gphotos hack?
I think there is no custom ROM with hack for the " unlimited gphotos hack".. hacking is illegal and there is no custom ROM with that sort of hacks.
For 1.99 euro you have 100 gb of storage.
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I think there is no custom ROM with hack for the " unlimited gphotos hack".. hacking is illegal and there is no custom ROM with that sort of hacks.
For 1.99 euro you have 100 gb of storage.
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Umm, I think you're wrong. Not about the lack of custom ROMs with an "unlimited Google Photos" hack, but hacking itself.
It's legal to modify Android. It's a little less cut and dry whether it's legal to modify Google apps, such as the BSG Camera app mods found on XDA, but the issue of legality is moot anyway.
Both Google Camera and Photos can detect which device they are installed on and will adjust their feature sets accordingly. The only way I know of to enable unlimited storage is to change the device fingerprint to a Pixel 1 / XL, and I'm not even sure THAT will work. If you were to succeed the apps would think you had a Pixel 1 / XL and would configure themselves appropriately. That would mean no Magic Eraser, no astrophotography mode, and none of the other features that Google has put into its phones over the last several years.
Trading all the added features available for the Pixel 6 camera and the Photos app simply to gain the ability to store unlimited numbers of photos is simply not worth the hassle. As you point out, Google 1's offer of 1.99/month for 100GB of storage is totally reasonable if people are that concerned. Or they can take the time and manually do it themselves using their chosen cloud storage solution.