Whats the processor of MOTO E 2015 3G? - E 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

In official specs sheet it's written Moto E 2015 3G has snapdragon 200 quadcore @ 1.2Ghz with Adreno 302
whereas,
CPUZ and other apps show that it's snapdragon 400 quadcore @ 1.2ghz with Adreno 305.
Since Adreno 305 supports only snapdragon 400 and not 200...so which spec sheet is correct.
I believe latter is correct but can motorola make a such big blunder??

It's a Qualcomm MSM8212.
The Snapdragon marketing names are rather meaningless (since so many different SOCs have the same name). Technically, Qualcomm decided to call it a Snapdragon 200, but it is about equivalent in performance to some of the numerous different SOCs all called Snapdragon 400.

squid2 said:
It's a Qualcomm MSM8212.
The Snapdragon marketing names are rather meaningless (since so many different SOCs have the same name). Technically, Qualcomm decided to call it a Snapdragon 200, but it is about equivalent in performance to some of the numerous different SOCs all called Snapdragon 400.
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So which one is it. 200 or 400
I will be really exited if it is latter.

Ravx said:
So which one is it. 200 or 400
I will be really exited if it is latter.
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Honestly there is a whole lot of confusion coz it's model is MSM8926 which supports Adreno 305 but then its Board is MSM8610 is snapdragon 200 with Adreno 302.
So Nothing is clear for now...

As mentioned on Official Qualcomm site
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/motorola-moto-e-2nd-gen-3g
its a sd 200 processor
Also following site specs says that sd 200 processor supports USB OTG
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/200 -- see specs

Did anyone read what I wrote? It's an MSM8212!

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CPU-Z does not yet recognize the CPU, so it reports the model incorrectly. It's an MSM 8212.

@squid2
so you are telling sd 200 is actually sd 400 ? Any references for this? article, posts, blogs etc !!

No. The MSM8212 is called a "Snapdragon 200" by Qualcomm, but that is completely irrelevant.
There are numerous different SoCs all called Snapdragon 200 and 400. The MSM8926 in the Moto G is called a Snapdragon 400 by Qualcomm. The MSM8212 is called a Snapdragon 200. But they are effectively the same thing, with different names. The 8212 and 8926 have about the same performance. The only difference between the 8926 and the 8212 is the GPU. The 8926 has an Adreno 305, while the 8212 has an Adreno 302. The 305 in the 8926 and 302 in the 8212 are about the same in performance though (maybe a 15% difference if at all any).
Just to reiterate:
The Moto E 3G has an MSM8212. The MSM 8212 is marketed as a "Snapdragon 200", though that doesn't mean anything. The MSM8212 is pretty much the same as the MSM8926 in the Moto G, which is marketed as a "Snapdragon 400". They both have the same processor cores, and equivalent GPUs. Forget about the Snapdragon names, they are meaningless.

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@squid2
for moto e2 3g following site specs says that sd 200 processor supports USB OTG
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/sn...processors/200
when i try, it doesnot detects USB OTG, is it problem with android 5.0.1 or h/w is absent ? processor supports it

santoshvaza said:
@squid2
for moto e2 3g following site specs says that sd 200 processor supports USB OTG
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/sn...processors/200
when i try, it doesnot detects USB OTG, is it problem with android 5.0.1 or h/w is absent ? processor supports it
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The SoC supports USB OTG, but Motorola didn't include a 5V boost regulator (at least on the 3G model). The boost regulator is necessary to provide the 5V that USB peripherals require.

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The SoC supports USB OTG, but Motorola didn't include a 5V boost regulator (at least on the 3G model). The boost regulator is necessary to provide the 5V that USB peripherals require.
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Hi @squid2
otg with external 5v power supply.
http://www.ebay.in/itm/Micro-USB-Ho...3?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item3f44b938c9
will it work?

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Hi @squid2
otg with external 5v power supply.
http://www.ebay.in/itm/Micro-USB-Ho...3?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item3f44b938c9
will it work?
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I don't know, sorry. It might work.

According to http://www.xda-developers.com/moto-e-2nd-gen-2015-device-review/ OTG should work with that cable.

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Qualcomm Unveils Snapdragon 805 with Adreno 420 GPU

Qualcomm Technologies Announces Next Generation Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 “Ultra HD” Processor
Qualcomm has announced today a new generation Snapdragon 805 chipset with better 2.5GHz quad-core processor and 4K graphics.
The Snapdragon 805 delivers 4K display support in addition to the 4K video recording support, which was already available on the Snapdragon 800. More interestingly, the new chipset features a brand new Adreno 420 GPU, which has 40% more processing power than the previous generation Adreno 330 chips.
The latest Snapdragon 805 chipset also comes with an improved quad-core processor. The cores have a new Krait 450 architecture and have a maximum clock speed of 2.5GHz and memory bandwidth of up to 25.6GB/s. The Krait 450 is still a 32-bit processor, so we guess there is one more generation hardware to pass before Qualcomm outs 64-bit processor cores.
Qualcomm has also embedded a completely new modem called Gobi 9x35. It's manufactured on a 20nm process and is smaller, more power efficient, and, of course, faster. It supports LTE Category 4, dual-band WiFi ac and even allows 4K video streaming via Wi-Fi.
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Finally the new Snapdragon 805 chipset incorporates a new dedicated camera processor, which will significantly increase camera speed and might even help boost image quality. It also uses the gyro sensor to stabilize the captured photos.
Qualcomm is ready to mass produce the Snapdragon 805 chips and we should see them in commercial devices in the first half of next year (the first ones will probably debut at CES in January and MWC in February).
The Snapdragon 805 seems like a decent upgrade over the Snapdragon 800, but we are yet to see if it will be able to dominate the competition the way its predecessor did.
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And I am obsolete...
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Lol yup, thanks for kicking me in the nuts right after I buy your latest and greatest SAMSUNG!
At least our devices will be more powerful then most devices for a long time(1 year maybe?)
Don't worry, since we are on Verizon, we won't be able to buy a Snapdragon 805 device until probably next October!
The Note 3 should be a fast device for more than 1 year to come. The Snapdragon 800 will still be quite good and we have 3GB RAM unlike most devices. When I moved from Note 2 I had never felt that it was ever lacking in speed despite intense multitasking, I have no doubt that even the Note 2 will be quite usable and still quick next year.
Maybe it will appear in the Note 4 and S5?
I'm holding out for something Snapdragon 1000 powered :smug:
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Maybe it will appear in the Note 4 and S5?
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The s5 has Samsungs own x86 architecture chip, supposedly
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Then the US Note 3 gets this?
Hoping this will go straight to tablets so I can keep this smug on my face a little while longer.
I finally got my phone how i like it and now its last months model. AGH
I need those 4k graphics on my phone though... Hopefully the note 4 has an 850 in it at least and 4k res on a 6 inch display. I'd buy it
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Horse****! I can't use this piece of garbage, now! /throws Note 3 in the trash compactor
SirBindy said:
Horse****! I can't use this piece of garbage, now! /throws Note 3 in the trash compactor
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Breaking news, man loses hand after trying to retrieve phone from trash compactor.
Lmao
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keynith said:
The s5 has Samsungs own x86 architecture chip, supposedly
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Actually s5 will have x64 not x86.
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Actually s5 will have x64 not x86.
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Thanks for correcting me. I always get those mixed up.
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Dang..now I know how last years model feels
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Would you all like it better if flagship devices/SoC's were debuted every 20 months - 2 years instead, allowing users to reign with the best device throughout the duration of their contract, and the chance to grab the next best thing immediately?
I know how it goes (something faster will always come out), but I hate the fact that in just a few short months the S5 (and other devices) are going to be faster and more advanced than my Note 3.
Idk... The s4 seemed slower in every way to me than the note 2
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Actually s5 will have x64 not x86.
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Ouch both wrong now
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[SPECS] Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime Specifications

Hey all
Although this device has been out for a few months, I thought I'd still open up a general specifications and design discussion thread. I can see why people needing dual sim support have opted for the Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime, but what do members think of the display with a low ppi and small memory capacity?
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Specifications:
Display - TFT, 5.0 inches, 540 x 960 pixels (~220 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Qualcomm MSM8916 Snapdragon 410
CPU - Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A53
GPU - Adreno 306
RAM - 1 GB
Memory - 8 GB
Camera - 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Secondary Camera - 5 MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - 2600 mAh
Dimensions - 144.8 x 72.1 x 8.6 mm
Weight - 156 g
Color Availability - White, Gray, Gold​
Source: gsmarena
I'm really confused why in my Galaxy Grand Prime Total RAM that I check using CPU-Z is 884 MB, but in the promotional box or official spesification (like above) it's says that Galaxy Grand Prime has 1 GB RAM? :banghead:
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Rizqan7 said:
I'm really confused why in my Galaxy Grand Prime Total RAM that I check using CPU-Z is 884 MB, but in the promotional box or official spesification (like above) it's says that Galaxy Grand Prime has 1 GB RAM? :banghead:
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The "Lost" memory is allocated to the GPU.
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The "Lost" memory is allocated to the GPU.
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Alright thanks a lot, now I understand
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Battery is 2100 Mah CPU-Z source
nice camera quality...very smooth to use...but one thing...samsung should give inbuild office+pdf app also...bcz now a days its very neccesary
does it support 4G? it says LTE so it should, but when I called my sim card network provider , they told me my phone does not support 4g!!
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Battery is 2100 Mah CPU-Z source
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yeah same here, I was in shock when I saw it
The 4g depends on the model, there's some lte, some dual sim
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In one week i have SM-G530FZ i can say I am happy with it
only i dont like no support for dlna on video.apk i must install a 3rd party soft like allsare or another video player to see video on my old smart tv
i hope in next update the fix this or any custom rom make it posible
The cricket variant has 1.5 gb of ram.

OnePlus X has s801 32bit Processor not 64 bit

​OnePlus X has (s801 32bit) to be Precise Qualcomm MSM8974AB Snapdragon 801 Processor not 64 bit One... Will It Be A Drawback For Future Updates N Developing
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OnePlus X has (s801 32bit) to be Precise Qualcomm MSM8974AB Snapdragon 801 Processor not 64 bit One... Will It Be A Drawback For Future Updates N Developing
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No. And it's MSM8974PRO-AA
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OnePlus X has (s801 32bit) to be Precise Qualcomm MSM8974AB Snapdragon 801 Processor not 64 bit One... Will It Be A Drawback For Future Updates N Developing
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drawback because of ?
gaurav247star said:
OnePlus X has (s801 32bit) to be Precise Qualcomm MSM8974AB Snapdragon 801 Processor not 64 bit One... Will It Be A Drawback For Future Updates N Developing
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Doesn't seem like this will be the case.
Quasar is a developer and he said No.
I don't know. AnandTech has it down for the MSM8974AB, and silicon is their primary thing.
So why is it the weakest version of the 801 SoC ? It seems we're starting to discover why this phone is so cheap !
OnePlus One HAS S801 AC VERSION WHICH IS LATEST
ONEPLUS X HAS S801 AB VERSION WHICH CAME BEFORE AC
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No. And it's MSM8974PRO-AA
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Thanks Quasar,, Don't u Think 32 Bit .. Will Bother us all later
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So why is it the weakest version of the 801 SoC ? It seems we're starting to discover why this phone is so cheap !
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Seems Like
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No. And it's MSM8974PRO-AA
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No one knows what it is, CPU Z detects the CPU as the AA version but it also shows the GPU 100MHz above its maximum capacity, which only the AB or AC variants can handle.
rylark said:
No one knows what it is, CPU Z detects the CPU as the AA version but it also shows the GPU 100MHz above its maximum capacity, which only the AB or AC variants can handle.
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That's there. Also, there are a few SD810 components built..... so it's a strange config.
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Thanks Quasar,, Don't u Think 32 Bit .. Will Bother us all later
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Not really. It doesn't make a difference on devices with <4 GB RAM other than the native support and other goodies. Not really a problem.
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That's there. Also, there are a few SD810 components built..... so it's a strange config.
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Not really. It doesn't make a difference on devices with <4 GB RAM other than the native support and other goodies. Not really a problem.
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what sd 810 components?
when i looked into the boot.img i saw a weird constellation
it doesnt have a "real" fstab and it is working with a lot of shell scripts
ckret said:
what sd 810 components?
when i looked into the boot.img i saw a weird constellation
it doesnt have a "real" fstab and it is working with a lot of shell scripts
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Codecs and some firmware stuff.
rylark said:
No one knows what it is, CPU Z detects the CPU as the AA version but it also shows the GPU 100MHz above its maximum capacity, which only the AB or AC variants can handle.
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CPU-Z displays whatever the develop-er programs it to. When there isnt a specific programming for a model of phone it makes an educated guess on the architecture signs and defaults to the base model. Hence, AA
OnePlus X Official Specs
*this will answer most of the queries*
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OnePlus X Official Specs
*this will answer most of the queries*
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It doesn't mention the SoC's version. Also, one of the devs is currently doing an AMA on the Oneplus forums and interestingly enough is purposely ignoring all the issues related to the OPX (except the SD card one). It has been mentioned multiple times, asked to stop ignoring them but still hasn't given any info. This is too fishy for my taste and I already fear my purchase.
edit: Dev confirmed it's the AA variant.
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It doesn't mention the SoC's version. Also, one of the devs is currently doing an AMA on the Oneplus forums and interestingly enough is purposely ignoring all the issues related to the OPX (except the SD card one). It has been mentioned multiple times, asked to stop ignoring them but still hasn't given any info. This is too fishy for my taste and I already fear my purchase.
edit: Dev confirmed it's the AA variant.
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Hmm, that's a bit disappointing. Wasn't it Carl Pei himself who said that it has the AB variant? Or did I get that totally wrong?
Can you please share the link too?
Edit : Nevermind, found it -
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oxygenos-q-a-with-helen.403960/page-11
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Codecs and some firmware stuff.
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Probably because the oxygen os is ported from the primary device tree, OPO2
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Probably because the oxygen os is ported from the primary device tree, OPO2
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That's kinda unlikely, because this is based off CAF-AOSP and they have different branches for different chipsets. Dunno what OnePlus really tried with this device.
Will development (obviously in the future when the device is more widespread) be hindered by anything you guys have mentioned? Rom development is quite a big draw for me but the One and Two were too big
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Kirin 970 vs Snapdragon 845: What’s the difference of them?

As the two chipsets that are discussed most frequently, both Kirin 970 and Snapdragon 845 have their own advantages. Compared with SD835, SD845 is enhanced in terms of CPU and GPU, which improves its overall performance and speed. Kirin 970, an AI-enabled core, is a chipset with an independent built-in NPU processor which is an amazing innovation for introducing artificial neural network to be more intelligent, whereas SD845 uses CPU, GPU, and DSP to simulate the function of NPU. So for SD845, when the tasks to be processed are overload, the AI performance can’t be guaranteed. As a result, the NPU of Kirin 970 is able to process AI tasks such as image recognition, voice-controlled personal assistant and intelligent photography separately from the CPU, NPU, and DSP on the chipset, delivering AI-related performance far better than the NPE adopted by SD845.
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This picture was showed in the Honor10 launch event in China, illustrating the AI performance benchmark. It is clear from the picture that Honor10 (Kirin 970) has a superior performance than Galaxy S9 (Snapdragon 845) regarding AI, which proves that the NPU is powerful as it was mentioned in articles.
So, SD845 has an advantage in CPU and GPU, whereas Kirin 970 performs better in AI-related tasks because of independent built-in NPU. Personally, the ‘marginal benefit’ of the improvement in CPU and GPU by SD845 is slightly low, while the enhancement of the AI performance in Kirin 970 is obvious and it could be applied in more areas in the future.
I want to know your opinions. Welcome to discuss with me!
I really think that the CPU on the SD 845 and the Exynos 9810 (based on cortex A75 & A55) are better than the ones on the kirin 970, which is based on the Cortex A73 and A53 (if you're wondering, the same as Kirin 960). The SD 845 outright has the best GPU (Adreno) and the Exynos and Kirin processors share the same Mali G72 GPU, but the Exynos gets 20 cores against the kirin's 12 (Exynos being more powerful). The only thing that differentiates the Kirin 970 is the presence of the NPU, a physical processing unit (Part of SoC) dedicated to Machine Learning functions, unlike SD and Exynos that use their DSPs and ISPs for Machine learning, whicheans that the kirin is the fastest among the bunch for AI and Machine Learning functions.
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I really think that the CPU on the SD 845 and the Exynos 9810 (based on cortex A75 & A55) are better than the ones on the kirin 970, which is based on the Cortex A73 and A53 (if you're wondering, the same as Kirin 960). The SD 845 outright has the best GPU (Adreno) and the Exynos and Kirin processors share the same Mali G72 GPU, but the Exynos gets 20 cores against the kirin's 12 (Exynos being more powerful). The only thing that differentiates the Kirin 970 is the presence of the NPU, a physical processing unit (Part of SoC) dedicated to Machine Learning functions, unlike SD and Exynos that use their DSPs and ISPs for Machine learning, whicheans that the kirin is the fastest among the bunch for AI and Machine Learning functions.
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Yes, I totally agree with you. Personally, the marginal benefits of improvements of the CPU and GPU by each introduction of new SD chips are decreasing except for gaming users. The NPU might be a trend for chip R&D because it really makes our smartphone 'smarter'.
Kirin is still new, completely unexplored. It has a lot of potential and opportunities.

Question Google's first self made chip- Tensor's specs just leaked!

A well knowned tipster- Digital Chat Station declares that the new Tensor chip is all about octa-core.
However, Google usage a 2+2+4 core design. Means 2×2.8ghz power core and other 2×2.25ghz power core. Although there has a 4 cores of power consumption cores. Which is clocked at 1.8ghz.
Not only the CPU is strong but also Google will use here a Mali- G78 GPU, which is the best in class GPU that we're all see today.
Conclusion is, Google will optimised it at there best. For that it will provide the potential speed and features.
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its just a commissioned chip via Samsung
its a relabeled Exynos, it will be utter trash.
strelokcyka said:
its just a commissioned chip via Samsung
its a relabeled Exynos, it will be utter trash.
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What else would it be? Or less.
It's no Snapdragon...
Now we all know it's actually a member of Exynos 1080/2100 family with some Google's custom components... Someone said that the Tensor's code nunber was "e9855", while Samsung's flagship Exynos 2100 wss "e9840".
If that's true, the Tensor could have 2 Cortex-X1 cores, and it would be a lot more powerful (at least for the CPU part) than Snapdragon 888(+) and Kirin 9000.
strelokcyka said:
its just a commissioned chip via Samsung
its a relabeled Exynos, it will be utter trash.
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Exynos 2100 isn't really trash, though the previous few generations were
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Exynos 2100 isn't really trash, though the previous few generations were
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Guess it depends how well Gookill tunes it.
Recent test scores look real good at least on Samsung devices.
Exynos 2100 vs Snapdragon 888: Benchmarking the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra versions
We have some performance numbers of our own to go over and examine. For quite some time now Samsung has been releasing two versions of most of its premium...
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The best tester's for the new pixel chip will be the XDA members! Cheers
Missignal_Dev said:
Exynos 2100 isn't really trash, though the previous few generations were
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Excessive battery heat, drain and short life going off of track record sure sounds like trash to me.
But hey if you want to buy bad chips, you do you.
strelokcyka said:
Excessive battery heat, drain and short life going off of track record sure sounds like trash to me.
But hey if you want to buy bad chips, you do you.
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That can happen with any chipset in a Samsung.
It's a common and usually correctable issue.
However, for instance, the 20 Ultras had random heat sinks in use, the copper vapor phase ones ran cool, the graphene pad ones ran hot.
Personally though I wouldn't buy a Google phone or one without a SD card slot.
Missignal_Dev said:
Now we all know it's actually a member of Exynos 1080/2100 family with some Google's custom components... Someone said that the Tensor's code nunber was "e9855", while Samsung's flagship Exynos 2100 wss "e9840".
If that's true, the Tensor could have 2 Cortex-X1 cores, and it would be a lot more powerful (at least for the CPU part) than Snapdragon 888(+) and Kirin 9000.
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Yes, I expect google's new pixel phone.
strelokcyka said:
its just a commissioned chip via Samsung
its a relabeled Exynos, it will be utter trash.
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Is there any possibilities of google making an upgrade to that processor
ivigneshwaran said:
Is there any possibilities of google making an upgrade to that processor
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Unlikely especially given the ongoing chipset shortage which is only going to get worse.
Hold off for at least a year if you can. Firmware (R) and hardware issues dominate this year's releases... not a pretty picture.
blackhawk said:
Unlikely especially given the ongoing chipset shortage which is only going to get worse.
Hold off for at least a year if you can. Firmware (R) and hardware issues dominate this year's releases... not a pretty picture.
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But we xda'ers like the challenge to fix everything that Google breaks!
galaxys said:
But we xda'ers like the challenge to fix everything that Google breaks!
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Yes, well... then you are sure to be some of the happiest SOBs on the planet!
The codename is GS101/S5E9845, I saw on this page the specs and Antutu benchmarks for pixel 6.
Google Tensor - PhoneMore
Google Tensor specs, benchmark, performance, architecture, memory and all chipset specifications and technical features.
www.phonemore.com
The Pro version with 12GB RAM is much better, but Exynos 2100 is better than Tensor

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