I've had my 3vo for a while and now I want to revert it back to stock rooted.
I feel like a complete noob again at this 3D stuff.
I used the wire trick when I rooted and I think I read somewhere that you can't restore back and be able to get root again.
I have the PG86IMG file and the ruu exe.
What do I need to do to get my phone back to stock and still be able to get root again?
Edit: HBOOT info:
Shooter XC ENG S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.04.200 (PG8610000)
RADIO-1.09.00.0108
eMMC-boot
Apr 16 2011
It's a CDMA Sprint model.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136964
Let me see if i can locate the correct RUU.
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Here is a RUU if you want.
http://www.shipped-roms.com/downloa...06__NV_NV_SPCS_1.43_release_271101_signed.exe
James L said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136964
Let me see if i can locate the correct RUU.
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Here is a RUU if you want.
http://www.shipped-roms.com/downloa...06__NV_NV_SPCS_1.43_release_271101_signed.exe
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Thank you for the ruu.
Is it safe to just run that to revert even though I used the wire trick to get root?
And will I still be able to root again?
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xNotta said:
Thank you for the ruu.
Is it safe to just run that to revert even though I used the wire trick to get root?
And will I still be able to root again?
Sent from my Android using Tapatalk.
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As long as you didn't switch to a custom unsigned Hboot it should run fine. As you are S off.
James L said:
As long as you didn't switch to a custom unsigned Hboot it should run fine. As you are S off.
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I don't think I did. But how can I check?
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xNotta said:
I don't think I did. But how can I check?
Sent from my Android using Tapatalk.
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If i were you i would leave it be with S off. Then run a 2.89 RUU which will bring the device to 4.0.4, 1.58 hboot
Then flash Twrp or cwm via fastboot, flash SuperSU or Superuser and you're good to go.
James L said:
If i were you i would leave it be with S off. Then run a 2.89 RUU which will bring the device to 4.0.4, 1.58 hboot
Then flash Twrp or cwm via fastboot, flash SuperSU or Superuser and you're good to go.
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Did you have some way I could check if it would be safe to just do the RUU?
Or do you know that it is safe to just run the RUU?
I just want to be back on a stock, fully functioning, rom and still have root. My current one is stock based but the dev abandoned it with bugs remaining.
xNotta said:
Did you have some way I could check if it would be safe to just do the RUU?
Or do you know that it is safe to just run the RUU?
I just want to be back on a stock, fully functioning, rom and still have root. My current one is stock based but the dev abandoned it with bugs remaining.
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I'll p.m. you.
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:good::good: OK SO I AM ROOTED S-OFF THROUGH REVOLUTIONARY HBOOT 1.40.1100 RADIO 1.06.00.1216. IF I FLASH THE NEW SPRINT HBOOT 1.58 CAN I REVERT BACK TO MY CURRENT STATUS? IF SO HOW? AND IF I DO FLASH THE THE HBOOT WILL IT LOCK MY BOOTLOADER? IF YES THEN IS THERE A WAY TO BECOME 1.58 UNLOCKED S-OFF? SORRY FOR THE LIST OF QUESTIONS I JUST LOOKED EVERYWHERE AND NOBODY IS REALLY SPECIFIC ON THIS. THANKS IN ADVANCE.:good::good:
First off, no need to yell.
IF I FLASH THE NEW SPRINT HBOOT 1.58 CAN I REVERT BACK TO MY CURRENT STATUS? IF SO HOW?
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Not sure why you would want to go back once you update.
AND IF I DO FLASH THE THE HBOOT WILL IT LOCK MY BOOTLOADER?
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Yes.
IF YES THEN IS THERE A WAY TO BECOME 1.58 UNLOCKED S-OFF?
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I don't think there is a way to do that yet.
Thanks for help one last thing i forgot to mention?.?
IF I DO UPDATE WILL MY PHONE HAVE ROOT ACCESS? IF NO WOULD I HAVE TO INSALL A NEW RECOVERY OR WOULD I STILL HAVE MY 4EXT RECOVERY?
:laugh:ALSO THATS JUST HOW I TYPE. IM NOT YELLING. SORRY FOR CONFUSON:angel:
Mikedman23 said:
:good::good: OK SO I AM ROOTED S-OFF THROUGH REVOLUTIONARY HBOOT 1.40.1100 RADIO 1.06.00.1216. IF I FLASH THE NEW SPRINT HBOOT 1.58 CAN I REVERT BACK TO MY CURRENT STATUS? IF SO HOW? AND IF I DO FLASH THE THE HBOOT WILL IT LOCK MY BOOTLOADER? IF YES THEN IS THERE A WAY TO BECOME 1.58 UNLOCKED S-OFF? SORRY FOR THE LIST OF QUESTIONS I JUST LOOKED EVERYWHERE AND NOBODY IS REALLY SPECIFIC ON THIS. THANKS IN ADVANCE.:good::good:
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If you are s-off, you will not lose s-off. When you flash the new hboot, it will say s-off locked, but s-off > locked, so you will be able to flash whatever you want and go back if needed.
If I were you (what i did myself), is flash freeza's firmware update that doesn't include the 1.58 hboot. The ONLY reason to flash the new hboot is if you plan to flash a Rom with the new kernel. The 1.4 hboot allows you to flash everything, including Roms based on the new Ota.
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Mikedman23 said:
:good::good: OK SO I AM ROOTED S-OFF THROUGH REVOLUTIONARY HBOOT 1.40.1100 RADIO 1.06.00.1216. IF I FLASH THE NEW SPRINT HBOOT 1.58 CAN I REVERT BACK TO MY CURRENT STATUS? IF SO HOW? AND IF I DO FLASH THE THE HBOOT WILL IT LOCK MY BOOTLOADER? IF YES THEN IS THERE A WAY TO BECOME 1.58 UNLOCKED S-OFF? SORRY FOR THE LIST OF QUESTIONS I JUST LOOKED EVERYWHERE AND NOBODY IS REALLY SPECIFIC ON THIS. THANKS IN ADVANCE.:good::good:
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check this out. should be able to downgrade hboot with a zip from this link. since your s-off you will be able to go back and forth between hboots as you please with no problem. you will not relock and will stay s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30014044&postcount=7
a.k.a.jus.cuz said:
check this out. should be able to downgrade hboot with a zip from this link. since your s-off you will be able to go back and forth between hboots as you please with no problem. you will not relock and will stay s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30014044&postcount=7
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Will flashing one of these keep me s-off? im on 1.58 s-off
DroidManIc said:
Will flashing one of these keep me s-off? im on 1.58 s-off
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Yes.
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IF I DO UPDATE WILL MY PHONE HAVE ROOT ACCESS?
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No.
IF NO WOULD I HAVE TO INSALL A NEW RECOVERY OR WOULD I STILL HAVE MY 4EXT RECOVERY?
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It only takes a few seconds to re-flash it if you have to.
ALSO THATS JUST HOW I TYPE. IM NOT YELLING. SORRY FOR CONFUSON
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There is absolutely no need to type in all caps. It's annoying, and hard to read.
sitlet said:
No.
It only takes a few seconds to re-flash it if you have to.
There is absolutely no need to type in all caps. It's annoying, and hard to read.
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So do I rename to PG86IMG.ZIP and flash via bootloader?
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a.k.a.jus.cuz said:
check this out. should be able to downgrade hboot with a zip from this link. since your s-off you will be able to go back and forth between hboots as you please with no problem. you will not relock and will stay s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30014044&postcount=7
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Flashed hboot 1.40 and did not lose s-off or even recovery. thank you so much bud.
So if i use the 1.4 hboot and flash a superuser zip the same one i used when I first went rooted and then flash 4ext as a bootloader will it work
Phone:HTC Evo 3D CMDA
HTC Sense:3.6
Software number:Trib's OTA 2 Root v1.5
Kernel version:[he who should not be named]Kernel
Baseband version:1.06.00.1216
Build number:1.13.662.2_RC
HBOOT:1.50 S-off (juopunutbear)
Recovery:4EXT Recovery Touch v1.0.0.5
DroidManIc said:
So do I rename to PG86IMG.ZIP and flash via bootloader?
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Flashed hboot 1.40 and did not lose s-off or even recovery. thank you so much bud.
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no prob. glad to help.
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Flashalot said:
So if i use the 1.4 hboot and flash a superuser zip the same one i used when I first went rooted and then flash 4ext as a bootloader will it work
Phone:HTC Evo 3D CMDA
HTC Sense:3.6
Software number:Trib's OTA 2 Root v1.5
Kernel version:[he who should not be named]Kernel
Baseband version:1.06.00.1216
Build number:1.13.662.2_RC
HBOOT:1.50 S-off (juopunutbear)
Recovery:4EXT Recovery Touch v1.0.0.5
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Should.be fine
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a.k.a.jus.cuz said:
no prob. glad to help.
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Should.be fine
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Hope so will be trying it tomorrow
Phone:HTC Evo 3D CMDA
HTC Sense:3.6
Software number:Trib's OTA 2 Root v1.5
Kernel version:[he who should not be named]Kernel
Baseband version:1.06.00.1216
Build number:1.13.662.2_RC
HBOOT:1.50 S-off (juopunutbear)
Recovery:4EXT Recovery Touch v1.0.0.5
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So I rooted my phone using this link http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-4g-l...tc-evo-4g-lte-unlock-bootloadertwrp-recovery/
and it worked. So I decided to flash a new ROM to my phone. So I went into recovery (TWRP 2.4.4.0) used superwipe, installed Liquid-JB-v2.1-RC2-jewel and when I flashed the ROM. It stated successful. I then rebooted my phone but after the HTC sceen it just stays in a black screen. I then hard restart (if that is what it's called) my phone to the bootloader screen and went into recovery and wiped into factory settings in tried to flash another ROM and it just stayed at the HTC screen. So my question is,"Is it possible to flash a ROM to my phone if S-ON?"
When entering bootloader this is what my phone says at the top.
*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
JEWEL PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT- 2.09.0000
RADIO- 1.12.11.1210
OpenDSP-v31.2.0.45.0015
eMMC-boot
Oct 18 2012, 15:46:20
Your problem is that you are S-on, so you need to either flash a ROM with a S-on kernel installer (MeanBean or ViperROM are two choices there), or fastboot flash the kernel. Get S-off and you won't have this issue
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FinZ28 said:
Your problem is that you are S-on, so you need to either flash a ROM with a S-on kernel installer (MeanBean or ViperROM are two choices there), or fastboot flash the kernel. Get S-off and you won't have this issue
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So am I limited to ROM's then??? If so, how do I S-OFF my phone at this stage???
You can also use flash image gui from the market to flash the kernel
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Zenaky said:
So am I limited to ROM's then??? If so, how do I S-OFF my phone at this stage???
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You have to use DirtyRacun to S-OFF
bigdaddy619 said:
You can also use flash image gui from the market to flash the kernel
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You have to use DirtyRacun to S-OFF
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+1 dude, s-off is the way to go man
*Information IS the most dangerous weapon of all*
Yes it is
J/K but S-OFF is highly recommended
bigdaddy619 said:
Yes it is
J/K but S-OFF is highly recommended
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Dude, you should put that pic up as part of your sig man. Thats hilarious
*Information IS the most dangerous weapon of all*
drlzanej said:
Dude, you should put that pic up as part of your sig man. Thats hilarious
*Information IS the most dangerous weapon of all*
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I would but I already have to much BS haha maybe I will make it my avatar
bigdaddy619 said:
You can also use flash image gui from the market to flash the kernel
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You have to use DirtyRacun to S-OFF
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The DirtyRacun method. Do you have to have a Linux based computer to do it or can you use a Windows based computer?
Zenaky said:
The DirtyRacun method. Do you have to have a Linux based computer to do it or can you use a Windows based computer?
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Make a LiveCD from ubuntu and boot it from your windows machine
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Alternatively you can flash the kernel in fastboot. Then flash the rom as normal.
Extract the boot.img from the Rom's zip. Boot into your bootloader. type
fastboot flash boot boot.img
Then reboot into recovery and flash as normal. No flash image gui needed.
bigdaddy619 said:
Make a LiveCD from ubuntu and boot it from your windows machine
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That would mean I would have to download Ubuntu into my computer. Looks like I have more research to do then. I am very new to Unbuntu.
Zenaky said:
That would mean I would have to download Ubuntu into my computer. Looks like I have more research to do then. I am very new to Unbuntu.
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No it is a bootable cd no need to install it just choose trial when it boots
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
bigdaddy619 said:
No it is a bootable cd no need to install it just choose trial when it boots
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
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I am currently downloading the link you sent me. Is there a link that you can provide for me for tutorial?
Zenaky said:
I am currently downloading the link you sent me. Is there a link that you can provide for me for tutorial?
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http://unlimited.io/jewel.htm
That should give you all the information needed.
Hello everyone,
I am currently running this version rooted with S-On. I have been trying a long time to get S-off to work on my device, but I cannot find the proper method. If someone can direct me to which s-off method works with 3.17.651 and hoot 2.09, that would be great!. Thanks for your help.
The only one that would work for me was moonshine. Have you tried that yet?
JudgeFutta said:
The only one that would work for me was moonshine. Have you tried that yet?
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I am on 3.17.651 and I was not able to successfully S-OFF with Moonshine.
I forgot I was on 3.16. You could always go back to 3.16 s-off and then flash 3.17. A lot of stuff to do though.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 4
Downgrade orrr???
How would i downgrade to 3.16 or what method could be used to s-off?
derrick101 said:
How would i downgrade to 3.16 or what method could be used to s-off?
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If you have unlocked your bootloader and have a custom recovery installed, flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127947&highlight=3+16+651+3, then use moonshine to s-off, then flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468418.
Restarting
When i try to flash the first .zip file it goes half way then the phone restarts and gets stuck on the splash screen am i supposed to use deodexed or odexed?
derrick101 said:
When i try to flash the first .zip file it goes half way then the phone restarts and gets stuck on the splash screen am i supposed to use deodexed or odexed?
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Are you S-on?
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
FinZ28 said:
Are you S-on?
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
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Yes i cant go s-off until i downgrade
derrick101 said:
Yes i cant go s-off until i downgrade
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You have to flash the kernel separately from the ROM.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
FinZ28 said:
You have to flash the kernel separately from the ROM.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
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Can you list steps and links im sorry im very noob with downgrading
derrick101 said:
Can you list steps and links im sorry im very noob with downgrading
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Check out the top link in my sig.
Also, what are you trying to downgrade?
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
FinZ28 said:
Check out the top link in my sig.
Also, what are you trying to downgrade?
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
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My phone got updated to 3.17 so i cant s-off and i need s-off to use cyanogenmod so im trying to downgrade from 3.17 to 3.16
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FinZ28 said:
Check out the top link in my sig.
Also, what are you trying to downgrade?
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
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I just read over the link in your sig but it didn't really help me much. is there a certain kernel that i flash. do i flash the kernel before or after? im very confused.
derrick101 said:
My phone got updated to 3.17 so i cant s-off and i need s-off to use cyanogenmod so im trying to downgrade from 3.17 to 3.16
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I just read over the link in your sig but it didn't really help me much. is there a certain kernel that i flash. do i flash the kernel before or after? im very confused.
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You don't have to be S-off to run CyanogenMod. You need to extract the boot.img from the ROM and flash it via fastboot commands in the bootloader. Then you can flash the ROM itself from recovery. I explain this pretty clearly in my guide.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
FinZ28 said:
You don't have to be S-off to run CyanogenMod. You need to extract the boot.img from the ROM and flash it via fastboot commands in the bootloader. Then you can flash the ROM itself from recovery. I explain this pretty clearly in my guide.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
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ok so i use the 3.16 rooted zip file extract it and copy the boot.img to my desktop. then flash that through command prompt then flash the zip file itself? what command so i run to flash the boot.img?
I'm still getting the same issue. the rom zip doesnt finish flashing and reboots and gets stuck on splash screen.
FinZ28 said:
You don't have to be S-off to run CyanogenMod. You need to extract the boot.img from the ROM and flash it via fastboot commands in the bootloader. Then you can flash the ROM itself from recovery. I explain this pretty clearly in my guide.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
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I'm only able to flash 3.17 even with flashing boot.img separately i get the same error. What could be causing this and i dont know why this thread says hboot 2.51 was our hboot supposed to update? if so mine didnt im still on hboot 2.09
nilnats said:
Hello everyone,
I am currently running this version rooted with S-On. I have been trying a long time to get S-off to work on my device, but I cannot find the proper method. If someone can direct me to which s-off method works with 3.17.651 and hoot 2.09, that would be great!. Thanks for your help.
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Have you tried DirtyRacun (along with the BabyRacun process)? That might be your only bet.
Hey guys is it possible to downgrade from 3.17 to 3.16 if so can u show me a link I updated too hahahaha
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
Captain_Throwback said:
Have you tried DirtyRacun (along with the BabyRacun process)? That might be your only bet.
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I tried to do this (same boat with 3.17) and BabyRacun won't run because the version is above 3.16 and it DirtyRacun errors because of a version mismatch
"remote: 43 main version check fail"
Can someone give me clear instructions how to update hboot and what to download. I am currently on latest radio but I have original 1.15 realse and 1.33 hbot. I would like to run kit kat sense 5 rom but I am afraid I will brick my phone trying ro update hboot. Will this erase everything on my phone to original? Any help on this would be appreciated! Thank you!
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Sutko82 said:
Can someone give me clear instructions how to update hboot and what to download. I am currently on latest radio but I have original 1.15 realse and 1.33 hbot. I would like to run kit kat sense 5 rom but I am afraid I will brick my phone trying ro update hboot. Will this erase everything on my phone to original? Any help on this would be appreciated! Thank you!
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk
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Make sure your soff. Also have custom recovery installed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2612740
thayl0 said:
Make sure your soff. Also have custom recovery installed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2612740
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The hboot file you want is the 3.06.605.4
sabres032 said:
The hboot file you want is the 3.06.605.4
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The only way to get that is to RUU i don't think anyone has released the 3.06 hboot img
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thayl0 said:
The only way to get that is to RUU i don't think anyone has released the 3.06 hboot img
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This is what @.torrented send me in a PM. New hboot/booloader has been added
I just added the newest bootloader to my collection thread and it is the 1.54.0000 bootloader
look for 3.06 ota hboot
I just assumed it was the new hboot image. @.torrented Am I wrong?
thayl0 said:
The only way to get that is to RUU i don't think anyone has released the 3.06 hboot img
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I just released it tonight actually
sabres032 said:
This is what @.torrented send me in a PM. New hboot/booloader has been added
I just added the newest bootloader to my collection thread and it is the 1.54.0000 bootloader
look for 3.06 ota hboot
I just assumed it was the new hboot image. @.torrented Am I wrong?
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You are correct
sabres032 said:
This is what @.torrented send me in a PM. New hboot/booloader has been added
I just added the newest bootloader to my collection thread and it is the 1.54.0000 bootloader
look for 3.06 ota hboot
I just assumed it was the new hboot image. @.torrented Am I wrong?
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If its been added I don't see it.
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.torrented said:
I just released it tonight actually
You are correct
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Posted where I just looked at your thread and I dont see it.
Scratch that found it http://www.mediafire.com/download/zugtur969c30jn6/PL83IMG - 3.06 hboot.zip
either way RUU 3.06 will install the correct hboot and latest radio
thayl0 said:
If its been added I don't see it.
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Posted where I just looked at your thread and I dont see it.
Scratch that found it http://www.mediafire.com/download/zugtur969c30jn6/PL83IMG - 3.06 hboot.zip
either way RUU 3.06 will install the correct hboot and latest radio
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But RUU'ing will also erase your whole device too, unless that is the intention
Sutko82 said:
Can someone give me clear instructions how to update hboot and what to download. I am currently on latest radio but I have original 1.15 realse and 1.33 hbot. I would like to run kit kat sense 5 rom but I am afraid I will brick my phone trying ro update hboot. Will this erase everything on my phone to original? Any help on this would be appreciated! Thank you!
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk
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Click the link in my sig, all the instructions are there and no you wont brick/erase your device(unless you RUU). Just check MD5 after you download the file to make sure its a good download.
Edited for accuracy:
For those happy folks finally moving to 4.4.2 (Verizon and Sprint most recently) please keep in mind that we do NOT yet have an ruu for 4.4.2. If you are S-ON you will NOT be able to save yourself using any 4.3 ruu if you have updated your hboot. Keep in mind an hboot can be flashed without any other part of an update so make sure you know what you are doing and what you have done to your device.
Just a public service announcement to hopefully bring people back to reality before they go modding their new 4.4.2 goodness.
Can't 4.4's hboot replace itself with the RUU's hboot,
(like usual 2 pass RUU install)?
Or did you mean for S-ON devices?
Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
Jiggity Janx said:
Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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S-off should download. Might have to test lol
Sent from my HTC6600LVW using Tapatalk
Aren't the s-off'ed and unlocked devices able to use their respective RUU's to downgrade? Example like myself I wen't from 1.11.605.4 official to the new 2.16.605.2 that if I ran in to a problem I could do the 0P3PIMG.zip from SD method or do the fastboot oem rebootRUU with the vzw.t6.0P3PIMG_1.11.605.4.zip and I was under the impression we could downgrade or upgrade as we see fit so long as we are s-off??? Isn't that how it's always been? I thought s-on users only really had to be careful since they could only upgrade due to main version issue and also not having a KitKat RUU now available if they took the update while s-on.... Some clarity would be great! Honestly though I thought the way I just worded it is how it's always been with HTC devices...
Jiggity Janx said:
Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
Jiggity Janx said:
ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
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Last night, @waco2hot33 ran the RUU and went s-on to take the OTA...and was able to regain s-off, root, and unlocked via WeakSauce/firewater s-off...Here's how he did it
But, once you're back to s-off, and have root, no matter what hboot you have, you can run the commands from @scotty1223's thread found HERE to unlock the new hboot
End of discussion?
Yeah that's incorrect hehe... For s-on users that stands true... They need to be extremely careful until something becomes available, but speaking for the Verizon users that took the OTA and are s-off... Unlocked is NOT necessary, just as long as they are s-off they can actually downgrade back to stock 4.3 for whatever the reason may be.. i.e.: warranty, bad flash, etc etc... It's 100% always been this way for all HTC devices that are s-off... It's by far the greatest feature or perk of having an HTC device... If you don't believe me then grab the encrypted vzw.t6_1.11.605.4 RUU and run it, you will see you will have no issues downgrading. While s-on users if they attempted they would get the main version to low error, s-off bypasses that...
Jiggity Janx said:
ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
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Murrda said:
Yeah that's incorrect hehe... For s-on users that stands true... They need to be extremely careful until something becomes available, but speaking for the Verizon users that took the OTA and are s-off... Unlocked is NOT necessary, just as long as they are s-off they can actually downgrade back to stock 4.3 for whatever the reason may be.. i.e.: warranty, bad flash, etc etc... It's 100% always been this way for all HTC devices that are s-off... It's by far the greatest feature or perk of having an HTC device... If you don't believe me then grab the encrypted vzw.t6_1.11.605.4 RUU and run it, you will see you will have no issues downgrading. While s-on users if they attempted they would get the main version to low error, s-off bypasses that...
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Please read my post above yours. Waco went s-on, took the update and installed it, and was able to regain s-off via the link i posted above. Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
I did something similar but why did he s-on?? Def didn't have to do that... I got the OTA and it failed 2 times so I said F it and ran the encrypted RUU just to get back to a complete stock state in case it was a boot.img or something missing issue and I remained "s-off" and "unlocked", redownloaded the OTA after booting back up and the OTA then flashed perfectly fine with booting in to KitKat and still s-off and unlocked. Only thing I had to do was fastboot TWRP back and flashed the SuperSU v1.94 and I was straight!
Did he think he needed to be s-on to take the OTA?
Vinchenzop said:
Last night, @waco2hot33 ran the RUU and went s-on to take the OTA...and was able to regain s-off, root, and unlocked via WeakSauce/firewater s-off...Here's how he did it
But, once you're back to s-off, and have root, no matter what hboot you have, you can run the commands from @scotty1223's thread found HERE to unlock the new hboot
End of discussion?
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Murrda said:
I did something similar but why did he s-on?? Def didn't have to do that... I got the OTA and it failed 2 times so I said F it and ran the encrypted RUU just to get back to a complete stock state in case it was a boot.img or something missing issue and I remained "s-off" and "unlocked", redownloaded the OTA after booting back up and the OTA then flashed perfectly fine with booting in to KitKat and still s-off and unlocked. Only thing I had to do was fastboot TWRP back and flashed the SuperSU v1.94 and I was straight!
Did he think he needed to be s-on to take the OTA?
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Noob moment? Tired? Acid flashback? Your guess is as good as mine, but he went s-on and was able to regain s-off via WeakSauce temp-root and firewater s-off with newest OTA/firmware. So...success? lol
I got what you are saying.. You are stating it is possible to root unlock and s-off official KitKat but what Jiggity Janx created the OP for was saying to everyone to be careful in case they soft bricked hard bricked boot looped or what have you that when on official KitKat there phone may be rendered unusable because there is no KitKat RUU.... What good is a rooted phone if you can't boot it? I was stating that if you are s-off and can at least boot to hboot that you are 100% safe and can run the Jelly Bean RUU....
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Please read my post above yours. Waco went s-on, took the update and installed it, and was able to regain s-off via the link i posted above. Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
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But yes that is indeed good to know though, thanks for the info! Good to know s-on or off we can work with KitKat!
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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I got what you are saying.. You are stating it is possible to root unlock and s-off official KitKat but what Jiggity Janx created the OP for was saying to everyone to be careful in case they soft bricked hard bricked boot looped or what have you that when on official KitKat there phone may be rendered unusable because there is no KitKat RUU.... What good is a rooted phone if you can't boot it? I was stating that if you are s-off and can at least boot to hboot that you are 100% safe and can run the Jelly Bean RUU....
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But yes that is indeed good to know though, thanks for the info! Good to know s-on or off we can work with KitKat!
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I understand and agree, but if you're s-on, the likelyhood of you bricking your device is nearly null. If you're s-off, you could likely use the 4.3 RUU and downgrade your hboot (i did this yesterday during a brain lapse after taking/applying the update).
So if you're looking if being s-off allows you to downgrade your hboot, then the answer is yes.
dottat said:
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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And that's a second confirmations
LOL..... Thank you!!
dottat said:
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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OP and or title should be corrected so it is not misleading to some looking for answers... Maybe I'll make a thread for users as reference for all the variants
I think the intent of the op was really meant for the users who are currently s-on and running KitKat. If they run into issues they likely won't be able to root and s-off and will be screwed as there currently isn't public KitKat ruu available.
Good discussion. Please don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore.
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What did that mean ~~~> Don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore
dottat said:
I think the intent of the op was really meant for the users who are currently s-on and running KitKat. If they run into issues they likely won't be able to root and s-off and will be screwed as there currently isn't public KitKat ruu available.
Good discussion. Please don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore.
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Vinchenzop said:
Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
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Vinchenzop said:
I understand and agree, but if you're s-on, the likelyhood of you bricking your device is nearly null.
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IMO if you can root it you can f it up. So s-on users do have some risk and currently there is no fix for them on 4.4.2 where there was a fix for them on 4.3 (encrypted ruu).
Good to see that soff users should be good to use a lower version ruu to downgrade if needed.
I have updated and downgraded to the stock version OS and hboot. But I'm also S Off. I had to use the decrypted RUU file though....
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Murrda said:
What did that mean ~~~> Don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore
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Lol...I meant let's not lose sight of the warning here. Noobs will be confused.
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