Idea - hosting android on a server. - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, I had this idea and I'm unsure on how/if it would work. It sounds weird but bare with me.
I was wondering if there was a way to host a version of android on a server and then connect to the server via a device such as a raspberry pi or even windows. Its difficult to explain but the best example I can give you is Nvidia's GRID game streaming service. However, instead of streaming games, it would stream android to a device. This means that all the computing would be done on the server freeing up your device.
I guess there would be a few downsides to it such as lag. However, you could probably run android on an extremely small device (such as a raspberry pi as long as it had decent internet connectivity and a low latency to the server). You could have something like an intel edison, a screen and a battery running android with TB's of storage and fast performance.
It's a strange idea that came to me, was just wondering if it is possible. Its kinda difficult to explain so ask if you want me to clarify.
Thanks.

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Splashtop movie streaming lag

Splashtop remote desktop was just released and it works gr8 however when I stream video it has a slight lag. Is this caused by my PC not having enough processing power and is there a way to fix this. My pc is running duel core 2.8 processor I believe.
how fast is your internet connection?
Dual core 2.8 should be enough I would think. More ram may help if you have space to upgrade.
Also try putting anti virus in silent mode or the appropriate equivalent.
And disable all non necessary back ground apps
Unless your trying to stream out side of the LAN internet speed will have no effect whatsoever. And unless router was made in Bedrock it would be current enough to provide at least 64mps, that would be sufficient as well
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Internet connection is not the issue i have 35up/35dwn Vfios I have only 3g of ram tho (win7 32bit , ) and streaming through LAN and streaming through remote connect seem to have the same lag. Router is brand new sp not a router issue...
I don't know if this will help, but I came across a link at the splashtop support forums. I don't have enough posts to cite the link, but it's to do with GeForce cards not working properly with the splashtop 'optimisations' and is related to drivers.
You might want to have a look at it if you have a geforce card in your machine. I have one in my PC, not sure what version of the driver is installed because I'm at work. Might see if any of the tweaks in the link sort out my flickering problem. (Splashtop worked fine the first time I used it, but since then I get intermittent blackscreens and flickering; my machine is a quad-core i7 920, 6GB ram, geforce 295 GTX, Win7 64bit, and is connected to my LAN by ethernet.)
Maxy
Thanx @Maxy ill give that a try
No worries mate. For info, I updated my nvidia drivers last night and it sorted my problem, mostly. I still have a little skipping, but it's much better.
Maxy
I've noticed lag with streaming video over splashtop on WiFi. Whereas, I experience no lag streaming video with SubSonic over wifi.
IMO -- Subsonic streams movie files a lot better; plus you can control quality of the stream. Splashtop is GREAT for remote desktop, and pretty good for streaming other stuff.
there's no app for SubSonic on the HP marketplace yet (probably wont ever be) but SubSonic creates a server for you on a .org domain, you just have to donate some money to the developers and bam. Give it a shot!
Try changing your wireless channel. Swapped mine to 11 and it works a treat
Check your server pc. I've noticed it's more cpu usage than broadband bandwidth. The server software is very cpu demanding even for dual cores. I've found my Intel E4400 is struggling to keep up. Check the server pc's task manager to see your cpu usage. I'm looking into upgrading my cpu to correct this issues. I've found the server software uses (on my cpu, other may vary) 40-50% and when I watch netflix, the silverlight plug-in uses another 40-50%, maxing out my cpu.

[Q] Archos 7.0 could it be the right hardware for NAS music jukebox ?

Hello,
I have been considering to make a setup for a music jukebox fed by a NAS HDD. There are quite a lot of dedicated product for multimedia player, but they all require a display to browse the NAS files (except the squeezeBox touch, wich looks almost like what I would like to have, but requires proprietary soft, not working with any NAS).
Basically, I want to manage music for my living room, but I want to keep any display away as much as possible.
So I thought that a kind of small tablet could do the job.
Requirements :
Acces to the NAS via network, preferably via ethernet.
Stereo output (any kind even if digital is prefered).
Small display 7 inch ok, 10 inch maximum (I don't want any angry birds invasion).
Cool file browser, preferably with music management (artist, style, album tags... CD cover if available).
I discovered that Archos made cool tablet and that OS may be hacked, so I can expect to find a good rom for this kind of use (or may be cook my own, though I don't look forward this)
More of all, you can find cheap Archos 7.0 home, Arnova... devices.
So now I think the best is to ask to those who already know the more about the device (and I would apreciate any advice for I might need something else).
So far I know there are no decent android tablet with ethernet port (I'd rather not have to rely on WiFi), but may be there are some adaptor.
Thank you for reading. More thangs to come for those how will take time to answer.
Not sure exactly what you want but it sounds like you should look at MPD, the Music Player Daemon. I set it up on my file server (a linux box, not a NAS) and there are android clients for it that let me control it from anywhere I get wi-fi. I've also seen MPD run on openwrt devices too... google "mighty ohm wi-fi radio" for more.
Thank you Jimmy,
Indeed, I found some soft that could do the job. I guess you recommend this project. Sounds like very promising.
In fact I have more question about the hardware. I don't think the Archos 7 home provide any kind of ethernet port even through an adaptor. So I'll need to set up WiFi (I don't use WiFi at the moment, for I prefer wired solution). I discovered that it is possible to hack the Archos tablets, but I don't know for now what are the gen8 and gen9. I suppose that Archos 7 home are g8, but not sure for now.
May be should I consider some other hardware issue, but since I only intend to read music I suppose the archos 7 home should have enough CPU power.
Another alternative seem to be an Archos9PC, but first it is more expencive, then it runs Windows I really don't know.
You are wrong, the Archos 7 Home ( you are in the wrong forum for that ) is Gen7.
Gen8 ( 8th Generation ) is the Archos 70 Internet Tablet.
While the HT has enough cpu power, i don't think you will be happy with it, but who knows.
The Gen8 has UPnP directly in the Firmware and the std Musikplayer allready has an option to use the "normal" twonky ( or whatever is running on your NAS) Server.
You can use a OTG Cable and a USB-Ethernet adapter, but Wifi is alot easier.
fzelle said:
You are wrong, the Archos 7 Home ( you are in the wrong forum for that ) is Gen7.
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Ok, If I understand well, gen7 won't be possible for rom change. NoGood.
fzelle said:
While the HT has enough cpu power, i don't think you will be happy with it, but who knows.
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Thank you for the advise. I suspected something like this. I'll keep on reading.
ZeGuido said:
Ok, If I understand well, gen7 won't be possible for rom change. NoGood.
Thank you for the advise. I suspected something like this. I'll keep on reading.
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I suggest as I do. Run NAS with the DLNA. Setup a western digital hd media player to your audio/video system. Use the "bubble upnp" app on your Archos to controlled it all. I use this method and am able to play content from the NAS to the WDHDTV or straight to the tablet or vise versa... from tablet to WDHDTV... bubble does it ALL.... if you want video too...HD video maybe? Use a PC/Linux or some Box to run TVMOBILI on your box and have it index the NAS instead of the built in NAS Dlna... it is better Dlna server and supports MKV without transcode... and also supports AllShare (Samsung TV protocol) so you can just use your Samsung TV as your player instead of WDHDTV player... I have all 5 things running now and I have many options in my media arsenal
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I suggest as I do... "bubble upnp" app on your Archos to controlled it all
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Looks like the kind of app I'm looking for. Thank you Josh.
I do NOT want anything but music, for I 've banned TV and internet from the living room. (TV and net have dedicated place). I don't want to set up a LinuxBox either (I'll probably do that for the HDTV in another place, but one thing at a time).
So the questions are :
-Would an Archos 7Home be good enougth for that ?
-If yes, is it possible to change the ROM of the Archos 7 home for a homecooked optimized rom ?
-is there somewhere an option (as for Archos9PC) to cradle the archos 7 Home whit a ethernet port (to avoid Wifi) ?
Finally, considering the NAS working along with bubble upnp, is it required to install some soft on the NAS and are there some kind of incompatibility (that's one of the drawback I see with the logitech squeeze box touch)

[Q] Android as a desktop operating system

I was thinking of the coolness factor of just having one device, a phone, to which you could connect an external display and have an extended desktop. I am not finding any reference to this on Android (only the MS Surface). From what I have been reading, and remember/understand (may be confused), Jelly Bean brought the ability for windowing apps. However, the apps have to be coded for the capability, unless you root your phone and installed an app that provided windowing for all apps. Also, I have not heard of the possibility of having an extended desktop in Android.
I would like to ask WHY? Why not have windowing and the ability for an extended desktop, on an external display? A bluetooth keyboard and mouse just follows. Does google have to play nice with the manufacturers that stand to loose from people only needing one device? Is there a reason I'm not thinking of? Most phones are fast enough for this these days.
At the turn of the century, I was running GPS software Deluo Routis on a Sony Vaio 505 Pentium 200Mhz laptop running Win98. The 2-D graphics were smooth even while playing mp3's through the car speakers. The mapping software showed the map clearly, and effectively gave me navigation. People have lost sight of how much you can do if you give up the bloat and bling.
Also, I am pretty confused with the merging of Android and Chrome. I never liked Java to begin with; my experience with it is in MS Windows, and it runs slow as molasses. I believe my phone would run much faster if they had not chosen Java. I understand this to be because you have an operating system running on top of another operating system. It just makes more sense to me to have less layers and run apps natively, for better performance. I thought maybe they chose Java for its level of security. Is the screening process for Google Play not foolproof enough?
I like the philosophy of Google better than Microsoft**, so if one of them is going to win, I hope it's Google. I'm hoping Google won't end up with a convoluted Android/Chrome operating system because Lawyers forced them to (the idea I get based on the latest news). I don't understand: do they want to keep their OS architecture simple, but are being forced to make the OS complex for different reasons?
**Apple doesn't even want to compete. They have never wanted to dominate, just make huge profits. Unless they break up the marriage of hardware and software, they won't win. Then again, if Samsung keeps dominating, there may not be much hardware diversity?
Oh, and my main question was: "Why not have windowing and the ability for an extended desktop?". Wouldn't that be a big deciding factor for anyone that wanted to simplify and just have one device?
Anybody? Tell me I'm crazy at least. There has to be a strategic reason, that Google does not introduce full windowing and extended desktop support.
Its coming eventually. though you could do it right now. Motorola tried something like this with their atrix lapdocks.
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E_Phather said:
Its coming eventually. though you could do it right now. Motorola tried something like this with their atrix lapdocks.
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Can you do it right now with any android device having a video port?
Well lets look at how we could achieve this with todays technology.
Input:
Bluetooth Mouse & keyboard.
Output:
Wireless display with support for older displays using something like Chromecast.
Graphical User Interface:
A secondary Launcher/Application (Which could potentially see companies like MS & Canonical developing their own UI's and Charging for them if required).
Home & Office use with one device:
Home would be the default UI, but when your device has used NFC to log into the office it would automatically enable your Office profile/UI for a certain length of time (requiring you to log back in after a set time or manual log out via another NFC tap).
This would be very useful as it would enable you to take your "desktop" environment anywhere with you and connect to any HDTV with Wireless display/Chromecast support.
Applications:
So if like me you are finding your phone to become ever more a better solution to your digital needs and you only require your desktop for apps which work better with larger displays (Videos & certain games) you will find this very useful.
Games:
Now games could become ever more better as they could be controlled using standardised control inputs (game controllers could use standardised input methods allowing you to select any compatible controller to best suit your needs) or even a driving game could allow you to see the game on a HDTV yet be controlled with the accelerometer for steering and the right of the devices touch display would be the accelerator and the left of the display would be the brakes for example.
More Business Solutions:
If you could wirelessly connect to the office display then show a powerpoint style presentation that would be great because the very device which stores the file would also be your controller to move to the next/pevious slides.
Media:
Music could possibly be stored in the cloud so when your on the move you can listen to your music as many of us do now, but when connected to a large display it could utilise the large display and speakers to show a music video too!.
Photos could be viewed on the large screen and the next one to be displayed could be select on the device (allowing the use to avoid showing anyone pictures which they don't want other to see - ie: pitcures of you and your friends whilst your parents/grandparents are in the room...).
The TV Guide:
The TV Guide would become a very interactive thing which allows you to see what is available on other TV channels without other people in the room being limited to viewing the content they are trying to watch in a small box in the corner of the display...
These are just some ideas of what is possible, but I know that you could do so much more with this and with 64-bit technology coming to many mobile devices soon that will make it so much easier for devices to process all of this data at once without any serious lag!.
I would love to see a group of developers on XDA team up on an open desktop (secondary) launcher to run alongside the users primary (phone) launcher. if there was a project like this with an open framework to develop apps for I'd be happy to start developing apps for that or separate UI's to run alongside my current (Phone/Android) apps UI's.
Edit:
Also remember that this could be utilised in other ways too eg:: connecting your device to your car and your device could deliver your navigation & music to your vehicles display whilst getting important traffic/weather news using your devices network connection!.
Isn't this exactly what the Ubuntu phone intends to do or have I got the wrong idea?
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Yes, but with Android already having a large ecosystem it would make a lot of sense to build upon that.
Chromecast is not "open" to third party apps. http://www.minyanville.com/sectors/...eeds-to-Tread-Lightly-With/8/28/2013/id/51502
Do they have a displayport version of Chromecast? *cough*
quote from: http://www.tested.com/tech/set-top-boxes/457036-testing-google-chromecast/
"Chromecast is also not a particularly good desktop mirroring option, either. It actually can't do full desktop mirroring, and instead works solely with the Chrome browser. In beta right now is Chrome tab streaming, which sends to Chromecast everything that can be rendered in a single Chrome tab, including web pages, flash embeds, and even full-screen MKV video files if you have VLC installed. I like that Chrome tab streaming works independently of what's showing on your laptop or desktop's screen--like with YouTube and Netflix, you can multi-task and switch to other tabs or windows while one tab is being streamed. The only thing that matters is the window size and screen resolution. Chromecast will automatically scale the aspect ratio of your window to fill up your TV screen, adding black bars on the sides to avoid stretching. A full-screen resolution of 1440x900 looked good on a large 1080p TV, but streaming from a 2560x1600 monitor at full-screen made the text unreadable on my 70" TV."
Wow... I thought only displayport was capable of 2560x1600 (edit: hdmi v1.3 brought this). Even if I hook it up to my 2560x1600 monitor, it won't really display anything but entertainment. Chromecast doesn't seem to be a way to have a monitor, to use your Android phone as a PC replacement.
AllCast !!!
http://www.geek.com/android/chromecast-reject-becomes-allcast-public-beta-now-available-1578674/
However, I still need to add some kind of wifi enabled device to my 30" lcd monitor (like with chromecast). Really, I don't mind a cable connection from my phone to my monitor, if that was an option. If Google continues to be closed like this, then I would go for Ubuntu phone.
Displayport:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MyDP#SlimPort
Any phones have this besides the Google Nexus 4? Actually, I'm not getting a new phone until I know what the hell will happen with Android / Chrome OS
Quote from: http://www.tested.com/tech/android/457205-mhl-vs-slimport/
"SlimPort's support for the DisplayPort standard--specifically Mobility DisplayPort--means it can output video at the same 4K resolution as MHL, though not via HDMI (yet, anyway). And here SlimPort hasn't really made good on its potential, yet; though it's based on the flexible DisplayPort standard, the only SlimPort adapters currently available are for VGA and HDMI connectors. The upshot is that you won't be plugging a Nexus 7 into a 1440p DisplayPort computer monitor anytime soon." http://www.slimportconnect.com/
Chromecast May Get Screen Mirroring With Android 4.4.1
Evidence in Android 4.4.1 indicates that screen mirroring is coming to Chromecast.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/chromecast-google-screen-mirroring-kitkat-android,25345.html
It could start with mirroring a primary display, but gradually result in mirroring something that a GPU has rendered for a secondary display.
A dock from Samsung Galaxy phones. Has USB ports, HDMI, and audio.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
mraeryceos said:
A dock from Samsung Galaxy phones. Has USB ports, HDMI, and audio.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
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I tried that myself with my previous Galaxy S4 (i9500), It was a great dock and when I connected my wireless KB & Mouse USB dongle & connected the HDMI to my PC monitor it was a good experience when doing things like playing GTA3 on the bigger screen (it was better than the windows version in some ways).
But the device just needed a separate home screen UI to be output to the PC screen to look perfect and to work better with the KB & Mouse input type.
It shouldn't be too difficult to make a UI that simply changes the size of some buttons to a smaller size, enabling more widgets to fit on the home screen and if they could simply force the apps to run in either windowed or full screen that would enable better multi-tasking, then the browsers would just need a small update to detect if the device is running in Desktop Mode if so, then simply zoom out of the page a little to emulate the desktop browser experience.
Just a few ideas... If Google's Android team are reading this, I would recommend that you get that dock to experiment with for future Android builds.
Especially now that OS' like Ubuntu Phone are looking at going down this road of the one device fits all computational needs.
Rather than creating a new thread I thought that it would appropriate to bring this topic back up after the recent announcements that several OEM's have made, that they will be releasing desktops with Android as their Primary/Secondary OS.
I hope that this pushes Google into creating a dedicated desktop UI in the future.

teamviewer for remote surveillance

Hello,
i use teamviewer to connect to my (home) remote android smartphone, open its camera and see what happens in my home (i use the smartphone like a remote surveillance camera)
The streaming works very well, but i have the problem that i have a limited data plan, but teamviewer consumes a lot of data when it is streaming the camera.
I would like to reduce the bandwidth used by teamviewer: i do not need a super clear image and super fast frame rate.
So i would like to reduce the resolution and the frame rate.
Is there a way to reduce the streaming bandwidth used by teamviewer?
Perhaps setting some parameters on my smartphone camera in build.prop file?
My remote smartphone is rooted, i can do on it all modifications i want.
Do you have any suggestion?
Let me know!
Lodovico
no ... you can't change anything i think.
thanks,
i think so too, i searched also if there is some app that reduces the speed of the connection
Teamviewer adapts the streaming quality basing on the speed of the connection, so perhaps if i can reduce the speed, it should reduce also the bandwidth...
but i have not found such app...
i think bandwith is optimized to minimum
Yes,
i think the streaming quality is optimized basing on the available bandwidth.
But perhaps i found a solution:
Netlimiter for windows.
I connect to my remote smartphone with my laptop or windows tablet.
Here i can install Netlimiter, and set Teamviewer to use no more than a specific bandwidth (that i have to decide)
So if the upload bandwidth of teamviewer host on the smartphone depends on the download bandwidth of teamviewer client of my laptop/tablet, in that way i should limit the upload bandwidth of teamviewer of the smartphone...
What do you think?
Could it work?
Thanks
i think it will make it really slow maybe
yes, maybe
i 'll try and let you know
Netlimiter does not fit for my case.
I found that , despite the netlimiter does work on windows, reducing the download speed,
this does not impact directly with the upload speed of the smartphone, that keeps quite high.
Perhaps the teamviewer server that works in the middle, manages the two connections
- one for the upload (from the smartphone)
- one for the download (to the windows tablet)
almost independently...
so for now, i have still not found a solution for my problem

Coursera App - Playback Speed on Phone but not Tablet?

I've started using the Coursera app on my phone (which is an app which lets you view massive online open courses for various topics). One of the best things is that there is playback speed control, so for professors who talk really slow, you can crank it up to 2x speed and run through the video in half the time.
But now that I have it on my tablet, the option isn't there. I suspect maybe it's because my tablet is on an older version of android, 4.4.4 instead of 6.0. Does anyone know if that's the reason, or is it because of something else?
And since my tablet is a Chuwi Hi8, upgrading isn't really an option for me, is there any alternative solution to an upgrade if what I suspect is true?
Thanks for any answers, really appreciate it!

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