Lack of Lollipop speculation - Xperia Z3v General

Could it be that verizon got so hammered from the issues surrounding the S5 update they are holding off on ours till they know its good

Not likely. I see Lollipop updates are released for other phones even the Galaxy S4.
I see people posting about how they're ready to give up on this phone because of the lack of update for one important feature. TBH, I don't blame them since I blame this entirely on Verizon. Serious lack of support here, and they couldn't even shoot a minor update for VoLTE. I'm just enjoying what I can with my phone and I'm on a two year contract anyway. If I were given the choice, I'd be grabbing the Z3 or Note 4 instead just because of more options. Until then, I do solidly hope there's something we can look forward to for just an update since it's already May now.

Exactly, figured today would be some sort of update since it's may the 1st and Friday which typically good things are always on Friday, lol. Just extremely annoyed when I need to look something up when I'm on the phone and can't.

corybucher said:
Exactly, figured today would be some sort of update since it's may the 1st and Friday which typically good things are always on Friday, lol. Just extremely annoyed when I need to look something up when I'm on the phone and can't.
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It's funny how terribly unreliable Verizon's own network info is to their own employees. First it's claimed we'll have VoLTE for Q1 2015, and we're in the middle of Q2. And all Verizon can say is subscribe to so-and-so link to receive updates.
Still no known info...

Now you see why "root" is so important, had we had root by now we would have a custom ROM of Lollipop at least.
Verizon always sucks when it comes to stepchildren phones (top tier phone but not of the brand Verizon wishes to push).
VoLTE will be just like all of Verizon's brilliant ideas, buggy, uses more bandwidth and works far worse than analog ever did, and no one actually asked for it.
Bombard Verizon with request until VZW gets tired of it, scream loud and scream long, only way VZW seems to listen. :good:

Yup I've been Facebook messaging Verizon every day about advanced calling. Just to bug them

so the tmobile version just received lollipop and again still no words from verizon and even the international xperia z received lollipop now. wtf!???

1linuxfreak said:
Now you see why "root" is so important, had we had root by now we would have a custom ROM of Lollipop at least.
Verizon always sucks when it comes to stepchildren phones (top tier phone but not of the brand Verizon wishes to push).
VoLTE will be just like all of Verizon's brilliant ideas, buggy, uses more bandwidth and works far worse than analog ever did, and no one actually asked for it.
Bombard Verizon with request until VZW gets tired of it, scream loud and scream long, only way VZW seems to listen. :good:
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No they wouldn't have been able to port another lollipop rom over just because you have root. Normally this is all you need for most devices but with the Z3, devs need the update to be released first before they can make roms for it.
The T-Mobile Z3 has been rooted for about a month and still has not seen one custom stock rom. Reason being lollipop hadn't been released yet by T-Mobile

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_announces_massive_android_51_upgrade_plans-news-12525.php we will get 5.1 too

xuanphucn said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_announces_massive_android_51_upgrade_plans-news-12525.php we will get 5.1 too
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Oh that's great news. I was hoping that since we had to wait so long that they would just skip 5.0 and jump to 5.1. So hopefully by the end of July or sometime in August we might see 5.1, I assume.

haggman7 said:
Oh that's great news. I was hoping that since we had to wait so long that they would just skip 5.0 and jump to 5.1. So hopefully by the end of July or sometime in August we might see 5.1, I assume.
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Please skip right to 5.1

haggman7 said:
Oh that's great news. I was hoping that since we had to wait so long that they would just skip 5.0 and jump to 5.1. So hopefully by the end of July or sometime in August we might see 5.1, I assume.
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i dont think they will skip 5.0 tho. tmobile just released 5.0 for the z3 so we will get 5.0 probably within the next few weeks

cvsolidx17 said:
No they wouldn't have been able to port another lollipop rom over just because you have root. Normally this is all you need for most devices but with the Z3, devs need the update to be released first before they can make roms for it.
The T-Mobile Z3 has been rooted for about a month and still has not seen one custom stock rom. Reason being lollipop hadn't been released yet by T-Mobile
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Like your optimism, thought I had read that when lollipop is rooted it needs a unlocked bootloader (Zygote was a temporary solution) cause you have to be able to flash a custom kernel to gain root, our phone's need an unlocked bootloader or we will be back in the same situation again, besides makes more sense to have an unlocked bootloader.

1linuxfreak said:
Like your optimism, thought I had read that when lollipop is rooted it needs a unlocked bootloader (Zygote was a temporary solution) cause you have to be able to flash a custom kernel to gain root, our phone's need an unlocked bootloader or we will be back in the same situation again, besides makes more sense to have an unlocked bootloader.
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Pretty sure we just need a pre-rooted ftf. That is the way it worked with my Z2. As long as you have root and recovery you can flash the prerooted ftf without unlocking the bootloader.

BladeRunner said:
Pretty sure we just need a pre-rooted ftf. That is the way it worked with my Z2. As long as you have root and recovery you can flash the prerooted ftf without unlocking the bootloader.
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Hope you are right, that would be nice.
It does sound possible from all the threads about the pre-root tool by zxz0O0.
Will have to wait and see.
Thought: why was there a root bounty when this was available?

1linuxfreak said:
Hope you are right, that would be nice.
It does sound possible from all the threads about the pre-root tool by zxz0O0.
Will have to wait and see.
Thought: why was there a root bounty when this was available?
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Because I don't think you could flash anything without first having root on it. lol
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GigaSPX said:
Because I don't think you could flash anything without first having root on it. lol
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Really, can you point out where it says you need to be rooted already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904
Was this the method used to exploit root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784900
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Oh, Motorola E is getting Lollipop 5.1. Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Really, can you point out where it says you need to be rooted already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/tool-prfcreator-easily-create-pre-t2859904
Was this the method used to exploit root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784900
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Oh, Motorola E is getting Lollipop 5.1. Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Read the first paragraph of the PRF Creator thread
"What is a pre-rooted firmware
A pre-rooted firmware is a firmware, which already includes root. This is for example important if you want to update the firmware to a version, where there is no public root exploit. To flash a pre-rooted firmware, you need a recovery menu. An unlocked bootloader is not required."
Root is required to install the locked dual recovery, hence you need to be rooted already.

Hm, just a small say here. I flashed back to the shipped firmware that our phones came with from last year (still rooted), and I'm seeing for sure the battery doesn't die as quickly as the current firmware that's out today. What I'm trying to say here is, I hope Lollipop is designed for better battery efficiency for our phones that does have it achieve a 2-day battery life sort of deal. I don't know exactly what it is that the current firmware is making our phone die faster, but I hope Verizon does some right in it.
Plus, this is already halfway through June. Total bullcrap nonetheless about the lack of update anyhow.

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Hm, just a small say here. I flashed back to the shipped firmware that our phones came with from last year (still rooted), and I'm seeing for sure the battery doesn't die as quickly as the current firmware that's out today. What I'm trying to say here is, I hope Lollipop is designed for better battery efficiency for our phones that does have it achieve a 2-day battery life sort of deal. I don't know exactly what it is that the current firmware is making our phone die faster, but I hope Verizon does some right in it.
Plus, this is already halfway through June. Total bullcrap nonetheless about the lack of update anyhow.
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I felt the same way. So I did a factory reset from stock recovery, set everything up again but left it on the .44 update. The only xposed module I am using is gravity box and I disabled sync for google calendar and changed exchange sync to every hour rather than push. I'm using stamina mode with Extended Stand by, Extended Usage and Stamina Clock enabled. I sync a few google items and my outlook email. Location services are normally disabled. I've barely used my phone the past couple of days so this speaks more to what I am getting with it in stand by but I've been off the charger for 52 hours and 35 minutes and am at 52% battery remaining. My standby drain is ~.5% per hour. Which is pretty good.
edit: I'm on a moderate LTE signal most of the time, and used wi-fi for a few hours.

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[Q] When will there be a way to root the latest OTA

Hi all, im just wondering if anyone knows the current status on the development for rooting the 4.3 (MJ7) update, or unlocking the bootloader, if possible. I am going to inherit a gs4 a little over half a year from now and im wondering if i will even be able to even root and put a rom on it like i did for my gs3. Do you think they will ever root & rom the last version they ever release for the phone? The owner always updates it no matter what i say, so would it be okay for him to update to the latest update in the future, or should i push even harder for him not to update?
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joedajoester said:
Hi all, im just wondering if anyone knows the current status on the development for rooting the 4.3 (MJ7) update, or unlocking the bootloader, if possible. I am going to inherit a gs4 a little over half a year from now and im wondering if i will even be able to even root and put a rom on it like i did for my gs3. Do you think they will ever root & rom the last version they ever release for the phone? The owner always updates it no matter what i say, so would it be okay for him to update to the latest update in the future, or should i push even harder for him not to update?
Thanks
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Maybe it's me. But if I'm dealing with people who do this kind of thing purely for the challenge of it, I don't ask them when they'll be done.
I'm not trying to be a smartass, but this kind of work is dealing with a bunch of unknowns. Like all other phones, eventually it'll likely be figured out. Until then, best you can do is tune into the channels they use to communicate with each other and you can gain an appreciation for both what they're up against and how they're progressing.
Should you continue to update? Each update will usually close the hole exploited to gain root. The process begins all over again. My experience on the two HTC devices I've had is that it takes several months to find the first exploit and several weeks to find new ones after each update.
You're a year and a half out from owning your own S4. Be comforted in the fact that by the time you get it, it'll be a piece of crap compared to the new phones that'll be out then.
Then again, my original Incredible and the Rezound are still quite usable phones today.
joedajoester said:
Hi all, im just wondering if anyone knows the current status on the development for rooting the 4.3 (MJ7) update, or unlocking the bootloader, if possible. I am going to inherit a gs4 a little over half a year from now and im wondering if i will even be able to even root and put a rom on it like i did for my gs3. Do you think they will ever root & rom the last version they ever release for the phone? The owner always updates it no matter what i say, so would it be okay for him to update to the latest update in the future, or should i push even harder for him not to update?
Thanks
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3.7739 hours from now
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
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The owner always updates it no matter what i say, so would it be okay for him to update to the latest update in the future, or should i push even harder for him not to update?
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I can't see where it makes any difference. At this point in time I believe it's safe to say the S4 bootloader will never be unlocked. As for finding an exploit such as LOKI, I doubt it.
We do have SafeStrap which is a great achievement but not as good as LOKI as it won't allow ASOP ROMs to run.
Conclusion, learn to love the stock ROM, I believe you're going to have to live with it. You may be able to root which will allow you to remove bloat, let's hope so anyway....
NOTE: I should point out that 2 years from now I believe the manufacturers and carriers will have made ALL phones locked with no way to unlock or flash anything.
Meanwhile, the developers are still working so hope for the best but expect the worst.

How long did you wait to root?

I just got a upgrade today, going from an S3 to the S4,
How long did you guys wait until you rooted?
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pbman1953 said:
I just got a upgrade today, going from an S3 to the S4,
How long did you guys wait until you rooted?
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As long as it took me to download, install and run the script
After I fully charged the battery, I rooted..... well technically I came here, read about what version of the S4 I had... got disappointed/sad that I couldn't unlock it (coming from a GNex) but I read and educated myself on how to root, and upgrade and keep root.. Then I used Xposed framework to modify the hell out of it... and while it sucks that I can't flash any ROMs.. most the features that I cared about when I flashed ROMs on the GNex, can/is modifiable using various modules on Xposed.
TLDR - Immediately.
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After I fully charged the battery, I rooted..... well technically I came here, read about what version of the S4 I had... got disappointed/sad that I couldn't unlock it (coming from a GNex) but I read and educated myself on how to root, and upgrade and keep root.. Then I used Xposed framework to modify the hell out of it... and while it sucks that I can't flash any ROMs.. most the features that I cared about when I flashed ROMs on the GNex, can/is modifiable using various modules on Xposed.
TLDR - Immediately.
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But you can from a Verizon based right?
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pbman1953 said:
But you can from a Verizon based right?
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Yes. I used my upgrade discount to buy my S4 off Amazon. It shipped with MI1. I used Root De La Vega to root, and then used this guide to update from MI1 to MJ7 and kept root.
The Xposed module I use the most is 'Wanam' (2.2.2) however I also use 'Bootmanager' to control what boots, 'Maximize Widgets' to have DashClock be my lockscreen, 'Xposed Recent Tasks RAM' because I like looking at memory usage (and bars) and 'Xuimod' to enable the BatteryBar Mod... once again back to my love of bars.
ntxct said:
Yes. I used my upgrade discount to buy my S4 off Amazon. It shipped with MI1. I used Root De La Vega to root, and then used this guide to update from MI1 to MJ7 and kept root.
The Xposed module I use the most is 'Wanam' (2.2.2) however I also use 'Bootmanager' to control what boots, 'Maximize Widgets' to have DashClock be my lockscreen, 'Xposed Recent Tasks RAM' because I like looking at memory usage (and bars) and 'Xuimod' to enable the BatteryBar Mod... once again back to my love of bars.
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What is MI 1, the base band? If yes, mine ends with MJ7
pbman1953 said:
What is MI 1, the base band? If yes, mine ends with MJ7
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Yeah it's the baseband. For what I know (anyone, please correct me) there is no going backwards on basebands. If your S4 is already on MJ7, you can't go back to MI1. However, if I was in the situation you're describing, I would probably use this thread to root and then install Xposed and go to town.
That being said, I don't know if that guide is working.. I know there was controversy over the root method on MJ7 since (once again from my knowledge) the method had you installing a SuperSu app that was Chinese based and was "calling" home. XDA closed a lot of threads discussing that root process and since I didn't need to know about it, I honestly haven't read what was going on with that so... this is where my help will probably end.
WHATEVER you do.. just be sure to read all instructions of any thread, try to understand to the best of your ability what you're doing, or at least the concept of what you're doing, and as every thread says... your phone warranty will be so gone and dead it will become next years Halloween mascot, so use all info you gain with the idea that you can destroy your phone's software (I've never had it happen but gotta say it.)
I didnt wait it was the first thing I did when I got my phone. I had read up on the phone in the weeks prior to my purchasing so I had all the files waiting for me once i got home.
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How long did it take?
I had everything downloaded before I got the phone.
Took it out the box, rooted it, then set it up.
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I didnt wait it was the first thing I did when I got my phone. I had read up on the phone in the weeks prior to my purchasing so I had all the files waiting for me once i got home.
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Can't seem to find the vroot files anywhere
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Got phone about two weeks ago. Luckily it was MDK so I rooted immediately.
i bought one for my girl (att) n mine. as soon as i was in the store and before making my pgone call i stopped the update, she of course didn't.. errr anyway got home 2 hours later had a full battery and root 2 n a half my girls had safestrap... i was on a rom next afternoon. Dang even told my girl i was not gonna root for like 2 weeks as well.

When will Verizon give us an update?

Seems like others are now on ver E and we are still on B. Why so long?
xgman said:
Seems like others are now on ver E and we are still on B. Why so long?
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Idk, I've been questioning the same thing
Verizon is horrible at releasing updates. But I'm unsure if I should be happy or anoyyed by it since our bootloader is locked
I would like an update to improve or fix things but I would also like to keep everything as is and hopefully get an exploit for what we have now
xgman said:
Seems like others are now on ver E and we are still on B. Why so long?
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My guess, and everyone's reply is a guess....Verizon is waiting on L to be released. No point in them spending millions getting us 4.4.4 or w/e lil patches there are out there. Verizon is the slowest carrier out there to give updates, so hopefully you have patience.
I don't really care about official updates. I just want the bootloader to get unlocked. If that happens, the devs will keep us up to date, better than Verizon does.
droidkevlar said:
My guess, and everyone's reply is a guess....Verizon is waiting on L to be released. No point in them spending millions getting us 4.4.4 or w/e lil patches there are out there. Verizon is the slowest carrier out there to give updates, so hopefully you have patience.
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I seem to remember a patch or two on the V G2 when it first came out. Sometimes these bug patches do more than the big updates which usually lead to their own issues...
What does E offer that you're so anxious to get?
My G3 works great, all the features I expect work.
Is there something you're missing that E will solve, or is this just a symptom of crack flashing?
Not hurting for an update currently, everything is fast and stable.
Only update I'm waiting for is Android L (5.0 / Lollipop) which id expect us to receive that update from Verizon by February at the earliest... sadly... Android L will bring a lot to the table and improve the overall experience, any other update is just small bugs or security fixes.
bunchies said:
Idk, I've been questioning the same thing
Verizon is horrible at releasing updates. But I'm unsure if I should be happy or anoyyed by it since our bootloader is locked
I would like an update to improve or fix things but I would also like to keep everything as is and hopefully get an exploit for what we have now
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I see no need for an update.
August 28th.
Of 2015. Lol
I am hoping they come out with updates for the cellular radio and bluetooth. Neither work nearly as good as the SGS4 that I switched from.
s.whiplash said:
I am hoping they come out with updates for the cellular radio and bluetooth. Neither work nearly as good as the SGS4 that I switched from.
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Which is something that wouldn't be high on my list of priorities, since the VZW G3 gets better radio signal than did my G2 and Galaxy Nexus before it. I can comfortably leave my phone on data and not be concerned the battery will be dead by the time I leave work. The metal superstructure around the building plays hell with 3G/4G switching.
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Which is something that wouldn't be high on my list of priorities, since the VZW G3 gets better radio signal than did my G2 and Galaxy Nexus before it. I can comfortably leave my phone on data and not be concerned the battery will be dead by the time I leave work. The metal superstructure around the building plays hell with 3G/4G switching.
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I have the 3G/4G switching issues quite often with mine. I gave my wife my SGS4 and it is rock solid at the same locations.
I have a LG Tone headset that was solid on the SGS4, but it cuts in and out on the G3 when it is in my pants pocket.
I had a SGS3 a few years ago and got it when it first came out. It had similar issues. The cell reception became a lot more solid with the first radio update and the bluetooth improved an update or two later.
I'm having issues with heat/screen dim when using bluetooth/nav (GPS)/screen on in the car (late afternoon sun).
From reading it looks like it's improved in the later firmwares.
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August 28th.
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I would avoid updates if you want your bootloader unlocked. They are working on unlocking B, and if you take an update you may inadvertently prevent yourself from taking advantage of the hard work thats going into the current unlock method. Wait for an unlock, there are many who believe its defiantly going to happen.
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I would avoid updates if you want your bootloader unlocked. They are working on unlocking B, and if you take an update you may inadvertently prevent yourself from taking advantage of the hard work thats going into the current unlock method. Wait for an unlock, there are many who believe its defiantly going to happen.
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The TOTs though, we got backup options if anyone catches an OTA
bunchies said:
The TOTs though, we got backup options if anyone catches an OTA
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Whats a TOT?
samg77 said:
Whats a TOT?
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Basically flash back to stock
Its a firmware zip, we should be able to downgrade if an OTA gets any of us
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Seems like others are now on ver E and we are still on B. Why so long?
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My phone did an Android update about an hour ago. 4.4.2, software version still VS98510B

**** Verizon. Seriously what the hell with 11C

Furious right now.
Jesus.
Andr0idoid said:
Furious right now.
Jesus.
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Could you be a little more vague?
Can't revert to 11B
It's expected. Verizon is the Apple of android now. Locking and blocking so they can find ways to make even more $ from subscribers. Its shameful, but it's business. They have maybe the best service and until people start dropping them they can pretty much do what they want.
Just hang in there and hope that someone finds a way to downgrade so you can get root and twrp back. I believe @autoprime is looking into it in another thread. That's a good thing. :good: Be mad at Verizon still, but be patient too.
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Can't revert to 11B
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He means v10b and v10c, of course, and many people are reporting the same issue. It may still be possible to revert to v10b from the OTA'd v10c, which would solve our problems with this OTA, but anyone who has not flashed v10c OTA yet should avoid it best as possible until there is better clear information about reverting.
Remember when Google first updated the Chromecast firmware and that patched the only known exploit for it ? It took a while to get around that. I think the Chromcast Devs eventually did, though...I quit following and just stayed stock.
How about instead of being furious with Verizon, you point the blame at yourself. You're the one who was stupid enough to take an OTA, despite common knowledge being that OTAs will patch exploits and have been known to prevent rolling back to older versions.
Not to pile on, but I am really surprised by the number of folks that have eagerly taken the OTA. As with just about any SW update, it's usually best to let someone else be the guinea pig. Not to say I'm not sympathetic. Still, at least your not on a Samsung. I spent the last year on my GS3 stuck in the past usually running TW 4.1.2, but at least I was free!
I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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You cannot go revert back with a Samsung anymore. With release of knox on the S4 the first update after the MDK bootloader locked anyone out of reverting back. I'm fairly sure every Samsung bootloader after that on other devices worked the same way.
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It looks like you cannot revert to v10b via .tot, either. Still might be a way, but things seem rather bleak about that.
What is bad for us all is that developers, already annoyed at Verizon and LG both, for good reasons, are likely see there very few Verizon LG G3 users that are ever going to be able to benefit from their work left. So, they will give hacking the Verizon G3 up as not worthwhile, maybe, and we will be stuck with a stock-only device. Its a problem to consider.
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GS3 got Knox at 4.4 and couldn't be rolled back as I recall (might even have been when 4.3 released). As bad as that was for the unfortunate folks that took the OTA or had to do a warranty exchange, the worst part was that it fractured the development into two camps, and that seemed to expedite the winding down of dev support for that device. I really hope that isn't what happens to the G3.
FYI- I just saw this post from @autoprime basically suggesting evidence of anti-rollback code in the new BL. Not a shocker, as VZW has been employing that for a while now - at least on Moto and Samsung devices. Sigh...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56437577
Yep... First they locked down the S4...and a short time later the S3 got the Knox bootloader essentially locking everyone who updated into using TW. Safestrap helped many but AOSP was no longer an option for them. It really sucked for development on my S4 as you need to know if a room was for mdk or for Safestrap.
I'd hate to see that happen here to the G3...BUT i will not give up a custom recovery just to get the latest update.... Even if the development community never is able to get a working updated rom.
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patience is a virtue
Isn't this a fix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/lg-g3-update-incoming-t2923354/page20
Someone on that thread found a way to get root and twrp back after the OTA. :good:
monochrome83 said:
I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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Reverted back to 10B, ran Stump, setup SU to Survival Mode and took OTA. I just did it and I still have root and 11C.
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You cannot go revert back with a Samsung anymore. With release of knox on the S4 the first update after the MDK bootloader locked anyone out of reverting back. I'm fairly sure every Samsung bootloader after that on other devices worked the same way.
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bkhorn said:
Reverted back to 10B, ran Stump, setup SU to Survival Mode and took OTA. I just did it and I still have root and 11C.
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as im writing this, im readying my ultrabook to do the same. Sorry, my Samsung knowledge refers to my Fascinate/Nexus days, when the world made sense lol
I was pretty tempted to take the update. But coming from experience with Motorola, I knew better. I checked the forums first before taking it.
Not to lecture, but any time you root it's best to use the free app Uninstall Expert and freeze any potential updates. It saves a lot of heartache.
Surely this will get patched it's just going to take some time...
I hope this doesn't sound evil but I am kinda hoping this root debacle increases the value of my g3. I've been wanting to sell it but am waiting for root confirmation on the Droid turbo...
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jfriend33 said:
I hope this doesn't sound evil but I am kinda hoping this root debacle increases the value of my g3. I've been wanting to sell it but am waiting for root confirmation on the Droid turbo...
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I was pretty pumped about the droid Turbo too, but the initial feedback in the forums is that it has some issues. No simultaneous voice and data either. Just makes me feel that much better about the G3!
apet8464 said:
I was pretty pumped about the droid Turbo too, but the initial feedback in the forums is that it has some issues. No simultaneous voice and data either. Just makes me feel that much better about the G3!
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So far I love my G3...but the nexus 6 is looking sexy....
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I'm using a droid turbo right now because I broke my g3 screen. Can't stand this p.o.s. Excited for my g3 replacement device. I'll have it 2m and I'll be back to normal.
BTW, screen and digitizer are one in the same on the g3. Crack your screen and touchscreen no longer works. Just FYI
Verizon Moto Droid Turbo... No simultaneous voice and data? What year is it again?

Will you upgrade to LP or not

I just wanted to find out if everyone is going to do the Lollipop update when it finally does become available for Verizon or not. Or will you just keep what version you have or stay rooted? I have been hearing that the AT&T update does not really improve anything and it does not look much different.
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I just wanted to find out if everyone is going to do the Lollipop update when it finally does become available for Verizon or not. Or will you just keep what version you have or stay rooted? I have been hearing that the AT&T update does not really improve anything and it does not look much different.
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Nope. I have my phone setup perfectly. I'm on 10B, haven't even updated to 12B/C/D or whatever. I would update to deodexed 12B if there was good enough reason, but I definitely wouldn't jump to lollypop. I won't use lollypop until my next phone (G4 once it gains root).
I will once there is a stock based ROM to flash.
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I will once there is a stock based ROM to flash.
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I agree I will once a Dev makes a ROM of it that way we can jump back if we don't like it or there are problems
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According to Drippler, LG3 users in the US on ATT system are not being able to defer the Lollipop update. If they select no to the update, it updates the phone anyway. Just putting this out FYI and confirmation.
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According to Drippler, LG3 users in the US on ATT system are not being able to defer the Lollipop update. If they select no to the update, it updates the phone anyway. Just putting this out FYI and confirmation.
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Shouldn't be a problem if you've frozen or removed the updater like a good boy should ?
Coming from the Moto X 2014, I enjoyed 3 months of Lollipop unrooted. On a Verizon phone at that, go figure. I'm hoping to take 5.0 or whatever version is served up to us asap...
Battery life seems to have taken a bit of a plunge in LP according to this
http://blog.gsmarena.com/benchmarking-android-5-0-lollipop-battery-life-samsung-galaxy-s5-lg-g3/
What is the updater file name? I run a custom Rom but want to make sure it isn't enabled. I searched the system files for anything with OTA in it and didn't see it. But I have had to TOT back to 10B twice since I bumped the phone and don't want to be vulnerable if I should ever have to do it again. Thanks.
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What is the updater file name? I run a custom Rom but want to make sure it isn't enabled. I searched the system files for anything with OTA in it and didn't see it. But I have had to TOT back to 10B twice since I bumped the phone and don't want to be vulnerable if I should ever have to do it again. Thanks.
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On VZW you should freeze the following, not sure on a custom rom
com.lge.lgfota.permission
System Updates
It depends on whether or not LP fixes the audio hiss issue. My phone is my portable mp3 player, and although I love having root, it's gotta be a good phone and good music player first. So frustrating hearing hiss while listening to music... I'd lose root in a heartbeat if they fixed this.
Lollipop is super sweet... Kinda hard not to want it on my g3 after using on my Nexus 7 2013. I mean basically with me running a ROM I have a Nexus 6 with removable battery and expandable memory lol...
I am a little disappointed in Stock lollipop on the other carriers. I do like the new notifications, task mgr, users, etc but I just like the status bar toggles as they are in Stock lollipop...
Luckily xposed is now slowly creeping into lollipop so I'd say in a month life will be sweet!
Although, real talk, if the g4 comes out with 4gbs of ram (yes I know it's not needed but I want it for future proofing) I'd probably sell my g3. But honestly lol I really do love my g3, g watch, etc and am very content hanging on!
some people still use Polaroid instant cameras.
I will update at the first second available.
Depends on if I can keep root across the OTA. I've been able to keep it from 10b to 12b, we'll see what the reports are out there. If I can keep it, and if I can downgrade back to 10b if needs be, then I'll probably try it out.
LP on my Nexus 7 (2012) has been hit or miss. After it's been up and running for awhile, my Nexus 7 will just freeze and I'll have to reboot. I don't have that issue with KK, especially on my G3. The G3 currently runs smooth and I rarely reboot it, ever. And it runs just fine.
So, I'll have to wait and see how things go with LP on this device. As it is, there is a memory leak in the latest version and no word yet from Google on if/when that gets fixed.

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