Hello all
I hope you all enjoyed aqua as me!
I am very happy for this price what we getting.
I have just one question.
Doe's anyone knows if quick charge working with M4 aqua?
Thanks in advance guys.
I've tried to connect my M4 Aqua to Power USB and was measuring parameters. I've managed to get 1,4A current and 5,1V. It charged faster, but maximum current in orignal charger is 850mA (the same in SE Neo V). It may kill the battery when used to often I guess.
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Found this:
The Xperia M4 Aqua is powered by a Cortex-A53-based Snapdragon 615, one of Qualcomm's mid-range chips for the first half of 2015 (before they get replaced by the Snapdragon 618 and 620). The chip comes with an Adreno 405 GPU and supports HEVC decoding, Wi-Fi 802.11ac and QuickCharge 2.0 (3A output).
But...somehow I think it's not enabled.
My Aqua does NOT charge that fast. In fact, it's slower than the M2 or past few Xperias.
I only see Sony talking about the quick charge 2 with the new Z5.
The user above might be correct - I'm not saying no - but I just found a quick charger on Sony Mobile and it is NOT compatible with the M4 Aqua....
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch10/specifications/#tabs
*sigh*
I asked a Sony rep about this and they said it doesn't support it.
According to the chip maker Qualcomm, the M4 Aqua DOES support Quick Charge 2.0. It's chip-enabled, not by the manufactuer.
I want to take this up with Sony. It might be a marketing gimmick for the new devices making them look special. Sony does NOT make Quick Charge 2.0, Qualcomm does. Qualcomm says it's support on this chipset specifically:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/615
Quick Charge support isn't just dependent on the SoC... It also needs support on the PCB. If the power circuits aren't wide enough or don't have enough gapping, enabling QuickCharge in software might very well fry the HW, and it could be that this is why Sony has disabled it here, not as a marketing gimmick but simply because the PCB can't handle it while the SoC could...
I just received Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 and used to charge Sony M4 aqua but its slow in charging. Can anyone help me? Thanks.
siva8mech said:
I just received Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 and used to charge Sony M4 aqua but its slow in charging. Can anyone help me? Thanks.
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Quick charge is not supported on M4 Aqua. You can still use it, but it will charge like a regular charger, maybe a little bit faster, because the regular chargers are usually 1000mA.
Input current to the micro USB is limited to 1.5A. Even if the charger strong, more than 1500 mA on the phone will not work.
@ I apologize for my English. This is Google Translator
Skalisty said:
I've tried to connect my M4 Aqua to Power USB and was measuring parameters. I've managed to get 1,4A current and 5,1V. It charged faster, but maximum current in orignal charger is 850mA (the same in SE Neo V). It may kill the battery when used to often I guess.
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I had to change the original charger. I found an original Xperia Charger that charges the battery in 1hr 40m aprox (And in the old one, it needed 3hrs to be charged) Is that bad?
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Dear all,
Is there any known powerbank product compatible for Sony tablet S? I frequently must travel away from power outlet for some times and need to charge it on the go. I could rely on powerbank for my cellphones but I can't use it to charge my Sony tablet S. Most chinese tablets are able to be charged up by powerbank though.
At least is there any power connectors that could connect Sony tablet S to powerbanks out there?
Thanks for any reply.
I think anything with a usb port should work..
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Dear all,
Is there any known powerbank product compatible for Sony tablet S? I frequently must travel away from power outlet for some times and need to charge it on the go. I could rely on powerbank for my cellphones but I can't use it to charge my Sony tablet S. Most chinese tablets are able to be charged up by powerbank though.
At least is there any power connectors that could connect Sony tablet S to powerbanks out there?
Thanks for any reply.
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Unfortunately, no. Believe me, I have searched nearly everywhere.
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Ubichinon said:
I think anything with a usb port should work..
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The Sony Tablet S cannot be charged via a USB port. The tablet requires 2.9 A at 10.5 VDC for charging which USB ports cannot provide.
The Xperia Tablet S, however, can be charged via a USB port if the port is capable of providing 1.5 A at 5 VDC.
idnc said:
Dear all,
Is there any known powerbank product compatible for Sony tablet S? I frequently must travel away from power outlet for some times and need to charge it on the go. I could rely on powerbank for my cellphones but I can't use it to charge my Sony tablet S. Most chinese tablets are able to be charged up by powerbank though.
At least is there any power connectors that could connect Sony tablet S to powerbanks out there?
Thanks for any reply.
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My answer is a little bit late, but I got my Tablet S (new Version) yesterday.
I dont trust my eyes and I was really surprise but my Powerbank charge my Tablet: A-Solar AL-350 7000mAh
I cant still believe it ...
This one work with Xperia Tab S.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0089DZNS4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
powerbank
For sony tablet s or xts
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-10000mA...id=1372427005&sr=1-5&keywords=anker+astro+pro
For sony xperia tablet s
http://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Thu...id=1372427005&sr=1-4&keywords=anker+astro+pro
Tested with xts work great and is very priceless
MajorWinters said:
My answer is a little bit late, but I got my Tablet S (new Version) yesterday.
I dont trust my eyes and I was really surprise but my Powerbank charge my Tablet: A-Solar AL-350 7000mAh
I cant still believe it ...
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xxliftsupxx said:
For sony tablet s or xts
Tested with xts work great and is very priceless
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But how you use it ?
There are special Sony connector for charging !
Sony tablet S has a high capacity battery. It means at least you should buy a 10000mah+ power bank which can charge your Sony tablet S 1 time more
This is Luxtude quick charge power bank which is 13400mah, it can charge your Sony tablet S above 1 time.
besides，it is IP67 Waterproof & Dustproof, Shockproof
Amazon ASIN：B074167W1V
Hi,
I've always found the battery in this phone to be poor.
I've owned years of Xperias and only one other had a bad battery life (Sola). This very often won't reach 1 day even on half brightness. I don't use this phone any more than the last one, or the one before, so it's the phone not my usage.
I just asked Sony and it doesn't use Quick Charge 2.0. That explains it. It charges so slowly.
The stock charger pumps out 850mAh. I see some chargers pumping out 1500mAh. What would happen to our phone? Would it charge even a little bit faster? Is it a threat to the phone's health?
Thanks
i charge my sony m4 with lg charger 1.8 A output, my phone charge much faster
Nice to hear!
Is that 1800 mAh? Input or output?
Thanks!
It shouldn't really damage phone I'm using 2.1mAh output charger on my current phone Lg L7 II while waiting for new phone (M4 Aqua) and it charges really fast, lasts long and no problems so far
Nice to hear it, guys. I sent an email to Sony and they answered that it supports 1500 mA so I bought(ordered) EP880 charger today. After trying it I will tell you how it works.
Thanks guys!
This is more like it! The M4 section has lots of views in threads but few replies! If we drop a line or two we can really learn from each other like this.
1500 definitely works eh? I chatted with a Sony rep and they said Quick Charge 2.0 is not supported in the phone. Not much info. from them. But I will look for the 1500 charger. That would be great.
2100? Wow! I wonder if your LG phone supports Quick Charge 2.0?
Interesting thread:
I found this interesting Sony Mobile thread where a Sony rep tells us a bit about it: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/needed-help-with-charger-for-xperia-z/td-p/373667
My first instinct was to browse on eBay. I'm going to get one there. Watch out though! There are many non-Sony chargers and some of them don't look trustworthy. Also, many of them say output 5.0V. But at which speed? 850 mAh or 1500 mAh? Some say 5.0V=850 mAh and others say 5.0V=1500 mAh. So, if you don't shop carefully, you may get the 850 charger all over again!
UCH10 Charger
As another comparisson, the standard (and only) quick charger available on Sony Mobile for any phone is this one UCH10:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch10/specifications/#tabs
Output
5V/1800mA(9W)
9V/1700mA(15.3W)
12V/1275mA(15.3W)
Support Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 Class A
"Maybe I'll try that charger? It can't do any damage according to Sony Mobile:
There's really no recommended mA from what i can find. The phone will use the amount it can handle up to a certain level. The fact that a charger is specified to a high mA doesn't mean that it's "pushing" that into the phone. It's what it can deliver."
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/needed-help-with-charger-for-xperia-z/td-p/373667
BUT...I checked Qualcomm's compatible device list, there are some Sony Xperia devices but the Z5 series mostly, not the M4. So, it would charge the phone but at a much slower rate...1500 maybe? But not Quick Charge 2.0 speed. So the older EP880 charger of 1500 mAh seems to be the max for this chipset/device.
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
SharpnShiny said:
Nice to hear!
Is that 1800 mAh? Input or output?
Thanks!
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Uotput
1,800 mAh, that's the same as the Sony Quick Charge 2.0 UCH10. That's definitely 1,800 mAh? I just don't want to spend €27 on discovering that I made an error and it's not compatible!
P.s. I've bought the EP880 1,500 charger and tested it, you can read here.
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1,800 mAh, that's the same as the Sony Quick Charge 2.0 UCH10. That's definitely 1,800 mAh? I just don't want to spend €27 on discovering that I made an error and it's not compatible!
P.s. I've bought the EP880 1,500 charger and tested it, you can read here.
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Do not buy it.
My answer there is right for you, too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-...-ep880-fast-charger-1-0-t3274091#post64390697
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2100? Wow! I wonder if your LG phone supports Quick Charge 2.0?
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Well I don't know really Qualcomm page says that snapdragon 200 supports QuickCharge 2.0. Yet I don't have any issues with it. It takes around 1hour 10mins to charge from 4% to 100% 2450mAh battery
Just to point out that in my research Qualcomms "Quick Charge" uses a higher voltage output while you're not using your phone.
These chargers are "smart" in that they communicate with the phones chip to give the OK on fast charging. If they don't they'll stick to universal 5v output.
You can buy other aftermarket "fast chargers" and these only output 5v but at higher amps. I use a 4.2amp charger for all my devices, my M4 takes about 50 minutes from 10-100%.
Also note that devices generally will only draw what they need/want. If a device only requires 1 amp and you use a 2+amp charger, it will only draw 1 amp.
Weznezz said:
Just to point out that in my research Qualcomms "Quick Charge" uses a higher voltage output while you're not using your phone.
These chargers are "smart" in that they communicate with the phones chip to give the OK on fast charging. If they don't they'll stick to universal 5v output.
You can buy other aftermarket "fast chargers" and these only output 5v but at higher amps. I use a 4.2amp charger for all my devices, my M4 takes about 50 minutes from 10-100%.
Also note that devices generally will only draw what they need/want. If a device only requires 1 amp and you use a 2+amp charger, it will only draw 1 amp.
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Hi, thanks for the info.
You may have seen that we're confused about the M4's capabilities. Sony says it cannot support Quick Charge 2.0. Qualcomm lists that chip (in some, not all, I noticed) pages on their site as supporting Quick Charge 2.0. Do you know if it does?
I'm new to learning about devices drawing power. Would you mind giving a brief run down on what the M4 can draw in terms of power, what the stock charger draws? Then we could see better what a 4.2amp does.
Please and thanks!
I can confirm that several different QC2.0 chargers charge the M4 Aqua NO FASTER than a capable 2.1/2.4A charger. While the Snapdragon 615 chipset supports QC2.0, there is other circuitry in the charging path that must support it as well and Sony chose not to implement it in the M4 Aqua.
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I can confirm that several different QC2.0 chargers charge the M4 Aqua NO FASTER than a capable 2.1/2.4A charger. While the Snapdragon 615 chipset supports QC2.0, there is other circuitry in the charging path that must support it as well and Sony chose not to implement it in the M4 Aqua.
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the difference is generally in the kernel
for example, the lg g2 mini has an SD 400 that supports QC 1.0 and is not functional in the stock rom, but with modded kernel that feature was enabled and the phone charges faster with a 2A charger
sergioslk said:
the difference is generally in the kernel
for example, the lg g2 mini has an SD 400 that supports QC 1.0 and is not functional in the stock rom, but with modded kernel that feature was enabled and the phone charges faster with a 2A charger
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Can you point to an example for QC2.0? For 2.0, the charging circuitry must be able to sense and adjust voltage and current draw from 5v to 12v with steps in between. QC 1.0 is Qualcomm's implementation/branding traditional 5v/2A charging. Also, QC 2.0 circuitry can be licensed and implemented in other SOCs as is evidenced by the ZenPhone 2 (Intel) and Galaxy S6 (Exynos).
You're right that QC2.0 can be implemented at the Kernel level IF the underlying circuitry is already there (as was the case with the SD800 powered LG G2). That said, if the supporting circuitry is not there (independent of the SOC) it can't just be enabled in software.
hi
I have a c5 ultra dual sim.
when I put it to charge ,it takes a long time to charge. I have not ttimes it exactly but I think it takes more that 3 hours to charge.
now I have two questions:
1. is this normal , and does it have to do with its charger , that has 850mA output? can I use another charger ? I know they are engineered not to be damaged easily so can I use a higher rated charger with it, and more importantly will this charge the phone faster?
2. I saw a quick charge 2.0 charger that says is for C5 ultra. is this for real? does c5 ultra even support quick charge? this is the link
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004ZKRMW0?redirect=true
if any body has some experience with this issue please share them here so I can fix this.
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hi
I have a c5 ultra dual sim.
when I put it to charge ,it takes a long time to charge. I have not ttimes it exactly but I think it takes more that 3 hours to charge.
now I have two questions:
1. is this normal , and does it have to do with its charger , that has 850mA output? can I use another charger ? I know they are engineered not to be damaged easily so can I use a higher rated charger with it, and more importantly will this charge the phone faster?
2. I saw a quick charge 2.0 charger that says is for C5 ultra. is this for real? does c5 ultra even support quick charge? this is the link
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004ZKRMW0?redirect=true
if any body has some experience with this issue please share them here so I can fix this.
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Regular 5V 2A charger does the job.
According to Mediatek, some QuickCharge chargers are compatible with PumpExpress+
what I asked was that if c5 ultra dual actually works with this technology. what I mean is that is there a charger that actually works with my phone and works in quick charge mode.
if anybody has personal experience with that can they post the name of that charger model.
So recently I bought a used Sony xperia z2, although its an old device but I'm quite impressed by his performance, look and design I loved it especially that purple color lol.
I've tested two different chargers one from Sony and the other one from my old lenovo phone here's the results (using Ampere )
1- Sony charger EP-800 (belongs to sony M2 I guess) with 850 mA : it only gives me 600mA
2- Lenovo charger (belongs to a cheap phone) with 1,0 A : it gives me 900mA which is perfect
my question is : is it safe to use the lenovo charger? since it gives a nice charging or there are other measurement which prevents using unbranded chargers
also, if anyone here has experienced different chargers please share how did you menage to get a good charging
I'm looking forward to have my question answered and have a great charging tips/tricks thread
P.S : ordering on-line is out of the question for me (excuse my government...)
Best regards.
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So recently I bought a used Sony xperia z2, although its an old device but I'm quite impressed by his performance, look and design I loved it especially that purple color lol.
I've tested two different chargers one from Sony and the other one from my old lenovo phone here's the results (using Ampere )
1- Sony charger EP-800 (belongs to sony M2 I guess) with 850 mA : it only gives me 600mA
2- Lenovo charger (belongs to a cheap phone) with 1,0 A : it gives me 900mA which is perfect
my question is : is it safe to use the lenovo charger? since it gives a nice charging or there are other measurement which prevents using unbranded chargers
also, if anyone here has experienced different chargers please share how did you menage to get a good charging
I'm looking forward to have my question answered and have a great charging tips/tricks thread
P.S : ordering on-line is out of the question for me (excuse my government...)
Best regards.
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Frankly speaking, 900mA/h is quite a slow charging speed. My typical charging speed gained is usually above 1A/h with a 2.5A rating charger.
Besides, I have never heard of any OEM forbid the use of any non-generic charger.
Not much tips for you when charging, just try not to use it but keep it power on to get the best result.
Using the Jackos_QuickCharge2.0_rev5.zip that can be found here (forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/sony-secret-revealed-qc-2-0-t3163490) anda QC 3.0 charger my Z2 is able to reach up to 1700 mAh
I recommend it!
I haven't made any scientific measurements myself but I can tell you my Z2 charges faster with the OEM Sony charger than, say, the average Samsung charger. Perhaps OEMs pull some unadvertised optimizations.
My cousin also says his Z2a charges faster with the charger that came with a BLU Pure XL, which claims to pump up to 2.1A.
Adriano-A3 said:
Using the Jackos_QuickCharge2.0_rev5.zip that can be found here (forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/sony-secret-revealed-qc-2-0-t3163490) anda QC 3.0 charger my Z2 is able to reach up to 1700 mAh
I recommend it!
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I don't know about you, but I appreciate longer battery lifespan over charge speed. Charging above the OEM specifications can't be all that good. Different opinions from different folks.
Hello. My significant other has a Moto Z (2016); to be clear, it isn't the Force, Droid, or Play. What charging port will TurboCharge the phone? Is it Quick Charge (QC) 2.0, QC 3.0, USB-C Power Delivery (PD), or something else entirely?
I have an Essential PH-1. I am looking for a two-port car charger that can charge both our smartphones at their fastest speeds. I know for the PH-1, it uses Power Delivery, so I am just trying to figure out what the other port should be. Thank you.
PD
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Check the charger that came with the Z and compare the specs on it with what you want.