Faster Charging Accessories - Can M4 Handle it? - Sony Xperia M4 Aqua

Hi,
I've always found the battery in this phone to be poor.
I've owned years of Xperias and only one other had a bad battery life (Sola). This very often won't reach 1 day even on half brightness. I don't use this phone any more than the last one, or the one before, so it's the phone not my usage.
I just asked Sony and it doesn't use Quick Charge 2.0. That explains it. It charges so slowly.
The stock charger pumps out 850mAh. I see some chargers pumping out 1500mAh. What would happen to our phone? Would it charge even a little bit faster? Is it a threat to the phone's health?
Thanks

i charge my sony m4 with lg charger 1.8 A output, my phone charge much faster

Nice to hear!
Is that 1800 mAh? Input or output?
Thanks!

It shouldn't really damage phone I'm using 2.1mAh output charger on my current phone Lg L7 II while waiting for new phone (M4 Aqua) and it charges really fast, lasts long and no problems so far

Nice to hear it, guys. I sent an email to Sony and they answered that it supports 1500 mA so I bought(ordered) EP880 charger today. After trying it I will tell you how it works.

Thanks guys!
This is more like it! The M4 section has lots of views in threads but few replies! If we drop a line or two we can really learn from each other like this.
1500 definitely works eh? I chatted with a Sony rep and they said Quick Charge 2.0 is not supported in the phone. Not much info. from them. But I will look for the 1500 charger. That would be great.
2100? Wow! I wonder if your LG phone supports Quick Charge 2.0?
Interesting thread:
I found this interesting Sony Mobile thread where a Sony rep tells us a bit about it: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/needed-help-with-charger-for-xperia-z/td-p/373667
My first instinct was to browse on eBay. I'm going to get one there. Watch out though! There are many non-Sony chargers and some of them don't look trustworthy. Also, many of them say output 5.0V. But at which speed? 850 mAh or 1500 mAh? Some say 5.0V=850 mAh and others say 5.0V=1500 mAh. So, if you don't shop carefully, you may get the 850 charger all over again!
UCH10 Charger
As another comparisson, the standard (and only) quick charger available on Sony Mobile for any phone is this one UCH10:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch10/specifications/#tabs
Output
5V/1800mA(9W)
9V/1700mA(15.3W)
12V/1275mA(15.3W)
Support Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 Class A
"Maybe I'll try that charger? It can't do any damage according to Sony Mobile:
There's really no recommended mA from what i can find. The phone will use the amount it can handle up to a certain level. The fact that a charger is specified to a high mA doesn't mean that it's "pushing" that into the phone. It's what it can deliver."
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/needed-help-with-charger-for-xperia-z/td-p/373667
BUT...I checked Qualcomm's compatible device list, there are some Sony Xperia devices but the Z5 series mostly, not the M4. So, it would charge the phone but at a much slower rate...1500 maybe? But not Quick Charge 2.0 speed. So the older EP880 charger of 1500 mAh seems to be the max for this chipset/device.
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list

SharpnShiny said:
Nice to hear!
Is that 1800 mAh? Input or output?
Thanks!
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Uotput

1,800 mAh, that's the same as the Sony Quick Charge 2.0 UCH10. That's definitely 1,800 mAh? I just don't want to spend €27 on discovering that I made an error and it's not compatible!
P.s. I've bought the EP880 1,500 charger and tested it, you can read here.

SharpnShiny said:
1,800 mAh, that's the same as the Sony Quick Charge 2.0 UCH10. That's definitely 1,800 mAh? I just don't want to spend €27 on discovering that I made an error and it's not compatible!
P.s. I've bought the EP880 1,500 charger and tested it, you can read here.
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Do not buy it.
My answer there is right for you, too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-...-ep880-fast-charger-1-0-t3274091#post64390697

SharpnShiny said:
2100? Wow! I wonder if your LG phone supports Quick Charge 2.0?
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Well I don't know really Qualcomm page says that snapdragon 200 supports QuickCharge 2.0. Yet I don't have any issues with it. It takes around 1hour 10mins to charge from 4% to 100% 2450mAh battery

Just to point out that in my research Qualcomms "Quick Charge" uses a higher voltage output while you're not using your phone.
These chargers are "smart" in that they communicate with the phones chip to give the OK on fast charging. If they don't they'll stick to universal 5v output.
You can buy other aftermarket "fast chargers" and these only output 5v but at higher amps. I use a 4.2amp charger for all my devices, my M4 takes about 50 minutes from 10-100%.
Also note that devices generally will only draw what they need/want. If a device only requires 1 amp and you use a 2+amp charger, it will only draw 1 amp.

Weznezz said:
Just to point out that in my research Qualcomms "Quick Charge" uses a higher voltage output while you're not using your phone.
These chargers are "smart" in that they communicate with the phones chip to give the OK on fast charging. If they don't they'll stick to universal 5v output.
You can buy other aftermarket "fast chargers" and these only output 5v but at higher amps. I use a 4.2amp charger for all my devices, my M4 takes about 50 minutes from 10-100%.
Also note that devices generally will only draw what they need/want. If a device only requires 1 amp and you use a 2+amp charger, it will only draw 1 amp.
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Hi, thanks for the info.
You may have seen that we're confused about the M4's capabilities. Sony says it cannot support Quick Charge 2.0. Qualcomm lists that chip (in some, not all, I noticed) pages on their site as supporting Quick Charge 2.0. Do you know if it does?
I'm new to learning about devices drawing power. Would you mind giving a brief run down on what the M4 can draw in terms of power, what the stock charger draws? Then we could see better what a 4.2amp does.
Please and thanks!

I can confirm that several different QC2.0 chargers charge the M4 Aqua NO FASTER than a capable 2.1/2.4A charger. While the Snapdragon 615 chipset supports QC2.0, there is other circuitry in the charging path that must support it as well and Sony chose not to implement it in the M4 Aqua.

shopkins82 said:
I can confirm that several different QC2.0 chargers charge the M4 Aqua NO FASTER than a capable 2.1/2.4A charger. While the Snapdragon 615 chipset supports QC2.0, there is other circuitry in the charging path that must support it as well and Sony chose not to implement it in the M4 Aqua.
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the difference is generally in the kernel
for example, the lg g2 mini has an SD 400 that supports QC 1.0 and is not functional in the stock rom, but with modded kernel that feature was enabled and the phone charges faster with a 2A charger

sergioslk said:
the difference is generally in the kernel
for example, the lg g2 mini has an SD 400 that supports QC 1.0 and is not functional in the stock rom, but with modded kernel that feature was enabled and the phone charges faster with a 2A charger
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Can you point to an example for QC2.0? For 2.0, the charging circuitry must be able to sense and adjust voltage and current draw from 5v to 12v with steps in between. QC 1.0 is Qualcomm's implementation/branding traditional 5v/2A charging. Also, QC 2.0 circuitry can be licensed and implemented in other SOCs as is evidenced by the ZenPhone 2 (Intel) and Galaxy S6 (Exynos).
You're right that QC2.0 can be implemented at the Kernel level IF the underlying circuitry is already there (as was the case with the SD800 powered LG G2). That said, if the supporting circuitry is not there (independent of the SOC) it can't just be enabled in software.

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Replacement wall charger?

I dont know whats getting worst.
But whats the best replacement charger for xtz that has a higher amps? I already looked in amazon and most of it has a 2a dual and i still want to ask the community
And guys if possible please suggest those has a long data cable
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I cant wait for the next update on XTZ, something like .67
Displa, camera, battery and some tweak, not sure.
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arcsuser said:
I dont know whats getting worst.
But whats the best replacement charger for xtz that has a higher amps? I already looked in amazon and most of it has a 2a dual and i still want to ask the community
And guys if possible please suggest those has a long data cable
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I'm not saying it's the best, but I've been using an old iPad charger (2.1A) for the last 2 months without any problems. I plug the charger into a mains extension lead so I don't need a very long USB lead.
Well i have an iphone5 charger here it says output 5v---1a
Is it ok to charge thendevice with it?
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arcsuser said:
Well i have an iphone5 charger here it says output 5v---1a
Is it ok to charge thendevice with it?
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Any USB wall wart that is 1.5 amps - 2.1 amps (1500 - 2100 mA) @5 volts will work. The more amps the faster it will charge. In a pinch you could use a 1000 mA charger, it will just take longer.
Alright im confused.. Which is faster mA or A?
And by the way im not asking about the power here but a replacement.
Thanks for the infos though
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1000 Milliamps = 1 Amp
1500 mA = 1.5 A
2100 mA = 2.1 A
Pop Quiz: 5A is how many mA? _____
5000mA is how many A? _____
Often wall warts list output in milliamps
Some external batteries list output in Amps.
It's not hard to convert between the two.
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1000 Milliamps = 1 Amp
1500 mA = 1.5 A
2100 mA = 2.1 A
Pop Quiz: 5A is how many mA? _____
5000mA is how many A? _____
Often wall warts list output in milliamps
Some external batteries list output in Amps.
It's not hard to convert between the two.
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I get it..
5000mA
5A
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arcsuser said:
I get it..
5000mA
5A
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Congrats, you passed electricity 101.
Keep in mind that batteries can be fickle creatures. Sony delivers the XTZ with a 1500 mA charger. Based on that alone, it's probably best to replace the original charger with another 1500 mA charger. While you can certainly use more than 1500 mA and it will certainly charge faster, in the long run you may end up shortening the battery life. There are only so many charge cycles to be had in any given battery and quick charging can put an extra strain on a battery that wasn't manufactured to suck up power that quickly.
In a pinch, use whatever you have on hand or can find. For everyday charging, its best to default to what the manufacturer recommends.
The Apple 12W one works perfectly fine and charges the tablet so much faster!
There is people here saying it is impossible because of battery electronics.
It's quite simple: They're plain wrong.
Jequan said:
The Apple 12W one works perfectly fine and charges the tablet so much faster!
There is people here saying it is impossible because of battery electronics.
It's quite simple: They're plain wrong.
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Without doubt the best charger I've used for the money. It keeps up with battery drain on heavy use (Full HD video+Net+ others...at the same time) Stock charger does not. At first glance it does seem expensive but does the job very well.
I sent Sony a link to the Apple website for these as it's much better than the POS charger they give you with their £400 "Flagship" tablet. Well worth the £15 price tag.
Jequan said:
The Apple 12W one works perfectly fine and charges the tablet so much faster!
There is people here saying it is impossible because of battery electronics.
It's quite simple: They're plain wrong.
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Well, yes and no. Watts, Amps and Volts are all different measurements for different things and it can be quite confusing to figure out to the uninitiated. Watts is a mathematical calculation based on Ohm's Law. Watts = Volts x Amps
All USB devices accept a maximum of 5 volts. USB standards cap the max power delivered to a device @ 5 volts. Most standard USB ports deliver 5 volts @1 amp. Newer computers and specially designed charging ports can and do deliver more than 1 A via USB but they all deliver a maximum of 5 volts.
12 watts divided by 5 volts = 2.4A
If you look at your charger you'll see the output amps listed as 2.1A or 2100 mA.
Sony's included charger only delivers 1.5A or 1500mA, so yes it charges slower and when the tablet is under high load, has a hard time keeping the battery at 100%.
The real concern here, is what effect does delivering 2.1A of current to the battery day after day have on the useful life expectancy of that battery? I don't know the answer because I don't know anything about the battery that Sony uses. It's possible, if Sony, used a top quality battery, that charging with 2.1A will have no effect at all and Sony just wanted to save a buck or two by including a weaker charger in the box. On the other hand, Sony may have deliberately used a battery designed to accept 1.5A and included an appropriate charger.
As I said in a post above, apart from the battery overheating while charging (if it wasn't designed to charge @ 2.1A) and a reduced useful life of the battery, there shouldn't be any real problem using a "slightly" more powerful charger - up to a point. Charge with too many amps and the battery will probably explode or at the very least melt, potentially causing a fire if left unattended.
When talking to Sony, the question you need to ask, "Is the battery rated for 2.1A or only 1.5A?"
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Well, yes and no. Watts, Amps and Volts are all different measurements for different things and it can be quite confusing to figure out to the uninitiated. Watts is a mathematical calculation based on Ohm's Law. Watts = Volts x Amps
All USB devices accept a maximum of 5 volts. USB standards cap the max power delivered to a device @ 5 volts. Most standard USB ports deliver 5 volts @1 amp. Newer computers and specially designed charging ports can and do deliver more than 1 A via USB but they all deliver a maximum of 5 volts.
12 watts divided by 5 volts = 2.4A
If you look at your charger you'll see the output amps listed as 2.1A or 2100 mA.
Sony's included charger only delivers 1.5A or 1500mA, so yes it charges slower and when the tablet is under high load, has a hard time keeping the battery at 100%.
The real concern here, is what effect does delivering 2.1A of current to the battery day after day have on the useful life expectancy of that battery? I don't know the answer because I don't know anything about the battery that Sony uses. It's possible, if Sony, used a top quality battery, that charging with 2.1A will have no effect at all and Sony just wanted to save a buck or two by including a weaker charger in the box. On the other hand, Sony may have deliberately used a battery designed to accept 1.5A and included an appropriate charger.
As I said in a post above, apart from the battery overheating while charging (if it wasn't designed to charge @ 2.1A) and a reduced useful life of the battery, there shouldn't be any real problem using a "slightly" more powerful charger - up to a point. Charge with too many amps and the battery will probably explode or at the very least melt, potentially causing a fire if left unattended.
When talking to Sony, the question you need to ask, "Is the battery rated for 2.1A or only 1.5A?"
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That i can agree with and it's a risk i am willing to take. There is people who say the 2.1A charger wont affect charging time in a positive way at all. That's what what i refered to when i said it's not true.
Jequan said:
That i can agree with and it's a risk i am willing to take. There is people who say the 2.1A charger wont affect charging time in a positive way at all. That's what what i refered to when i said it's not true.
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Definitely. More current (which is what Amps measure) means faster charge times, as long as what is being charged can accept the current being provided. You should be fine, but what do I know. PM me in six months and let me know if your battery still last a reasonable amount of time - then we'll know.
dph3055 said:
Well, yes and no. Watts, Amps and Volts are all different measurements for different things and it can be quite confusing to figure out to the uninitiated. Watts is a mathematical calculation based on Ohm's Law. Watts = Volts x Amps
All USB devices accept a maximum of 5 volts. USB standards cap the max power delivered to a device @ 5 volts. Most standard USB ports deliver 5 volts @1 amp. Newer computers and specially designed charging ports can and do deliver more than 1 A via USB but they all deliver a maximum of 5 volts.
12 watts divided by 5 volts = 2.4A
If you look at your charger you'll see the output amps listed as 2.1A or 2100 mA.
Sony's included charger only delivers 1.5A or 1500mA, so yes it charges slower and when the tablet is under high load, has a hard time keeping the battery at 100%.
The real concern here, is what effect does delivering 2.1A of current to the battery day after day have on the useful life expectancy of that battery? I don't know the answer because I don't know anything about the battery that Sony uses. It's possible, if Sony, used a top quality battery, that charging with 2.1A will have no effect at all and Sony just wanted to save a buck or two by including a weaker charger in the box. On the other hand, Sony may have deliberately used a battery designed to accept 1.5A and included an appropriate charger.
As I said in a post above, apart from the battery overheating while charging (if it wasn't designed to charge @ 2.1A) and a reduced useful life of the battery, there shouldn't be any real problem using a "slightly" more powerful charger - up to a point. Charge with too many amps and the battery will probably explode or at the very least melt, potentially causing a fire if left unattended.
When talking to Sony, the question you need to ask, "Is the battery rated for 2.1A or only 1.5A?"
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You're kinda right, but kinda not....
The charging circuitry inside the tablet is what regulates the charging current, not the 'charger', it will have min and max currents (the thing we plug into the wall that we all call a charger, is really just a power supply, there's no charging circuitry inside it.) That's why it doesn't charge from a standard usb port (which is 500mA) so, if it's charging faster with a 2.1A power supply, then it's obviously designed to do so.
Let's say, for example, the tab can accept a charging current of between 700mA-2.5A. Obviously, the charge time will be slower at 700mA than 2.5A, however, if you were to plug in a 5A power supply, the charging circuitry in the tablet will still only draw the 2.5A its designed to. So, don't worry about giving it too much, it's not possible.
Now, I don't know what the min and max charge currents are, but I can tell you that mine will charge (very slowly) from a 700mA LG charger.
And also, the dock for the tablet states an input of 1800mA,
So, we can assume the min is at least 700mA and the max is at least 1800.
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technaudio,
That's my age showing. Back before some smart guy invented the wheel, we gave a device power and if we gave too much a fuse would blow. I didn't mean to imply that the charging circuit was contained in the wall plug but at the same time, I failed to appreciate that the Tab was designed to prevent an over current situation.
...now let's see what happens when I give this puppy 15A AC...damn, melted the usb cable...
@dph3055
I knew what you meant, but some others on here probably wouldn't.
I've seen a lot of threads saying using a 'too powerful' charger will damage the battery.
It just won't.
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Quick Charger 2.0 Unit at good price...

Hello everyone I found in aliexpress.com a charger with QC 2.0 technology at a great price and demonstrates all requirements have to be able to charge our equipment in a quickly and efficiently way.
Tell me what you think and if any of you can try out the charger.
Search: "globel universal charger DC 24W MAX 2A quick charge 2.0 4 usb port wall charger changeable plug for mobile phone" only US $ 16.00 / item
Best Regard's
you mean this one?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/glob...e-2-0-4-usb-port-wall-charger/2018464264.html
You already got it ?
Do not bother with quick charge 2.00, although snapdragon 801 support it I don't think our z2 software has that enabled.
Why I am saying that is because the maximum charging current the z2 draws is 1.50 amps (measuring it with one of these)
I've tried different chargers (oneplus charger, anker charger which both capable of 2 amps) and different cables and always the max is 1.50
@Super Prince
Read here: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/sony-xperia-z2
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@Super Prince
Read here: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/sony-xperia-z2
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Yes, I know about that already and I mentioned that in my comment. But as I said the z2 maxes out at 1.5 amps I think because of software limit.
I really hope this QC 2.00 get working in the z2 because it takes a lot of time to charge this phone fully.
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Yes, I know about that already and I mentioned that in my comment. But as I said the z2 maxes out at 1.5 amps I think because of software limit.
I really hope this QC 2.00 get working in the z2 because it takes a lot of time to charge this phone fully.
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Is that on a dead battery? Current flow will settle down as the battery reaches more charge for safety.
I use a 1A charger from my old HTC phone with the dock at night, but it doesn't feel to me like my Sony wall charger is any faster. In fact, it feels slower. The quickest charges I got were actually through my desktop, my motherboard has a charging feature on the USB 3.0 ports.
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Yes, I know about that already and I mentioned that in my comment.
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Ah sorry, guess I read wrong.
But as Sony and Qualcomm say the Z2 is QuickCharge compatible I think it should be working.
You can't see more than 1.5A because you do not have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger! And even if you would and then plug this USB anpereMeter in between it might block the data transfer making the phone think it is connected to a standard USB port.
I'm not even sure if QuickCharge 2.0 CAN draw more than 1.5A! We only know that it allows up to 9V or 12V.
There are 3A or 4A 9V chargers around. But I don't know how much the phone would want to get.
BTW. With Doomkernel and FastCharge enabled you should be able to demand more than 1.5A... I think up to 2A was available in FauxApp
But I think I failed when I tried. Not sure anymore... ^^ been a while.

Stupid question: DashCharge charger, only for the OnePlus phones?

Hello all,
I have a really stupid question but it's keeping me awake...
The DashCharge charger, can I use it with other devices? Like a MP3 player? Or another phone? Or is it purely and uniquely proprietary for the OnePlus phones and it might damage the other devices I would use it with?
I know it won't charge faster the devices or... But if I can plug anything with it, then I can drop the other chargers I have and keep only the DC in my bag
Thanx for your replies
Dash power chargers work at 5 Volts 4 Amps which translates to 20 Watts, if I'm not mistaken, Qualcomm's Quick Charge 3.0 works at 6.5 Volts on 3 Amps which means 19.5 Watts of power. The difference in Volts and amps between different chargers is not an issue for most devices for two main reasons.
1. Amperage is pulled by the device, which means that if you have a charger with a 4 Amp capacity, you can pretty much charge any device that draws up to 4 Amps, since no phone that I know of besides the 1+5 and 1+3(t) draws that much, you'll be fine.
2. On the voltage side, most phone chargers (apart from Qualcomm's Quick Charge) usually work at 5 Volts, the same as 1+ Dash chargers. And even if the Voltage rating on the charger is higher than the phone. These type of devices have safety features that reduce the output if they don't recognize the device being charged as compatible with their technology.
So for a quick recap, if the phone you're charging is not compatible with the technology of the charger (1+ Dash, Qualcomm QC for example) the charger will make sure to reduce the amount of power being fed to the device to a safe amount. So normally a non Dash compatible phone will probably charge at no more than 5V 2 or 2.4A.
Thanx a lot for your answer
So I can plug to my DashChargers my MP3 players and lent them sometimes to my colleagues to charge their phones as well, with nothing to worry about. It's good to know
LeKeiser said:
Thanx a lot for your answer
So I can plug to my DashChargers my MP3 players and lent them sometimes to my colleagues to charge their phones as well, with nothing to worry about. It's good to know
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Yup, it just won't charge at full speed as it would with 1+ devices
You can use it with any device you like, but only OnePlus devices get the fast charge advantage!
Had anyone tried usb c power delivery charge yet?
I've got one for my cheap vernee which works well, in theory it requires negotiation to draw the correct power, but wondered if anyone has tested one yet
and oppo

Fast Charging

Is fast charging working with this phone?
I have belkin QC3 and I am thinking of buying this budget phone. I hope it is working even in sleeping mode.
Thanks
It seems to be a case of hit and miss so far. When I measure the charging current for the bundled charger/cable using Ampere it didn't even get close to the 2.4A current we should get.
Update: The max current I saw during charging is around 1950 mah, which isn't really considered fast charging.
Snapdragon 636 does support QC4 according to its datasheet but real life impression with the bundled nokia charger doesn't feel so quick indeed. I suspect poor charger quality is the culprit here (despite the fact it is 18W rated in specs) since no QC logo is printed on it
When plugged in, screen shows rapid chrging and cuts it off when around 80% + for battery protection I guess
If anyone charges the phone on an officially rated QC3 or QC4 charger please let us know
I also notice that the phone doesn't charge very fast using QC chargers, but when plugged into the USB C port of my (Anker or RAVpower) battery, it charges super quick. So I think USB-PD works better on this phone.
Specs wise, our phone's SD636 supports QC 4 which incorporates USB-PD standard, so if you charge on a certified QC4/usb pd charger plus the required cable, it will play fast and nice
Strange thing is that Qualcomm lists it only as QC3 device in their original device list found here https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list as if Nokia hasn't fully enabled the chipset's feature (?) for some reason...
Well, as long you see it charge super fast, I guess you can be happy with that

65w or 50w chargers that came with the oppo Reno ace and realme x2 pro

Can anyone confirm if these chargers are compatible with the rog 2? Planning on getting one.
https://youtu.be/tUVWV6pDShs
Ansticexvi said:
Can anyone confirm if these chargers are compatible with the rog 2? Planning on getting one.
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It is interesting, but at the same time risky, if they are not compatible they can shorten the life over time, damage the battery indicating false reading on the phone, or the last thing burn you'r phone.
I would really like some hard info abou this topic!
pewpewze said:
It is interesting, but at the same time risky, if they are not compatible they can shorten the life over time, damage the battery indicating false reading on the phone, or the last thing burn you'r phone.
I would really like some hard info abou this topic!
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Thankfully due to USB standards, plugging your phone into a charger that is capable of outputting more power than the phone is designed to use, will not damage the phone as it is not the charger that decides the speed that the phone will charge at, it is negotiated between the two devices and charging will start at the fastest speed that both of the devices support.
Due to Oppo's VOOC 2.0 being a proprietary standard that is only supported by select Oppo devices, if you connect any other device to the charger, it will just charge at whatever the maximum speed that can be negotiated between the two devices, which is most likely going to be 5V 2A (10W).
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Thankfully due to USB standards, plugging your phone into a charger that is capable of outputting more power than the phone is designed to use, will not damage the phone as it is not the charger that decides the speed that the phone will charge at, it is negotiated between the two devices and charging will start at the fastest speed that both of the devices support.
Due to Oppo's VOOC 2.0 being a proprietary standard that is only supported by select Oppo devices, if you connect any other device to the charger, it will just charge at whatever the maximum speed that can be negotiated between the two devices, which is most likely going to be 5V 2A (10W).
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So since oppo owns realme it's probably using the same proprietary tech too. Bummer.
The question is whether you REALLY need those extra minutes shaved off of your charging time. Faster the charging, faster your battery deteriorates. Speaking of compatibility, I doubt you'll get anything above the 30W that Asus provides support for. I'd recommend you stick to the 18W/30W charger bundled inside, or a QC 4.0 charger.
Works fine with my old Huawei Superchargers (45W)
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Works fine with my old Huawei Superchargers (45W)
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How faster is it compared to the stock charger?

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