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Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
Thanks
WolwX said:
Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
Thanks
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for few days i went to jarir book store on KSA . I found Charger good price also 2 USB 5 volt 2.4 Amber ... compatiable with mate 7 and faster from orignal ...
just to know more fasting to charge wil damge your batter of mate 7 quickly .also orignal 2 A will damge
for me I charging with Iphone charge 1A good for batter and Stander and low risk to Device
If you want proper charging, then always use the accessories coming with that product. It is tested for sure and good. Other than that, you can use any charger delivering the same charge. The original charger is 5 volt, 2 Ampere. Don't use anything above 2 amperes as it may damage the device. Below that will charge it slowly.
BTW, why you don't want to use the original charger?
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I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
Is it safe for battery life of Mate 7?
I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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djmaxi said:
I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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Can you test it with ampere (free in gplay) i don't think it will charge over 1800mA so that it acts like a normal 2a charger
Fast charging
Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
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PoopDonkey said:
Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
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that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
blackinfinity said:
Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
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Why don't you buy a powerbank? I can advice you the xiaomi 16000mah. That one charges fast and you can be mobile.
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps. Batteries will automatically lose cells from charge cycles and by the time you feel the effects of the battery going bad, you would have already moved on to the next device for the next person to worry about. And saying to use the Stock Charger isn't really good enough as the Stock charger doesn't serve as a Car charger also. If you want to charge your phone quick, and you already have a 2 Amp charger, Check your microUSB cable. Don't use junk cables, buy quality or use the cable you received with the device. You get what you pay for. Fast Charging won't work as the Charger has a chip inside that communicates with the Phone and Device. Also, when buying a charger, don't just randomly buy a charger online, Make sure its UL Tested. Even if it says UL tested, there should be a test number on that UL Label, take it a step further and google it and make sure it matches the charger specs and passes as knockoff chargers are notorious for copying other chargers Regulatory icons to make it seem authentic. You don't want to buy a junk charger that ends up burning your house down or gives you a very bad 120 Volt shock through the microUSB cable that would also kill and fry your phone.
treem said:
I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
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1.6A is nothing.. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours
one friend conected his phone to a hi suite, he went to repair sistem or something like that, and it pop out an option of QUICK CHARGE... even he doesent know how that hapends, now his phone charges faster. he is on b331 rom
cyvr1 said:
Hi,
that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
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so much misinformation
this post is the only one who gets it right.
Kalemucu said:
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
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You have not read my earlier post or you did not understand it. Changing the charger on the Mate 7 will have NO effect (zero, nada) on the time required to charge your phone except the charger delivers less then appr. 1.6A. Then it would take longer and evetually kill the charger. The Mate 7 uses a Kirin chip which has no fastcharge implemented. Samsung uses Qualcomm Chips with implemented fastcharge technology. The charger (in fact a power supply) and the phone/CPU/charge controller need to communicate with each other, otherwise fastcharge will not be activated (the reason fastcharge with charge-only cables does not work because they lack the required data cables for communication).
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps.
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Wrong. Correct would be "I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v." The amps of the charger don't matter at all -> amps are PULLED by the phone not pushed to the phone. You could use a charger with 100 or 1000 amps and it would not hurt your phone a bit as long as it is only charged with 5 Volts.
More amps (>1.6A) on the charger do not improve the time for charging one second.
1.6A is nothing. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours.
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Yes, and that won't change one bit even if you use the best and most expensive charger and a 1000$ cable. The Mate 7 is limited by its hardware (built in charge controller) and pulls max 1.6A. End of story.
As long as you don't understand how charging works you will spend 100's of bucks for cables and chargers to no avail.
The only reason, why charging with some charges is quicker than with others is that those chargers actually deliver the amps they are supposed to deliver. There are a lot of cheap/bad chargers out there which are labelled with 5V/2A but only deliver a fraction of the amps. You can identify those chargers easily because they get extremly hot. I use a 2A charger from Aukey which gets only lukeworm.
I have a nice collection of quick charge 2.0 chargers around the house, so this is a real negative blow if true.
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
It still charges very fast with the stock charger.
Old news by the way.
What do you mean "if true"? Google stated that in their reddit AMA and now there is an article with real world test data showing it. Are you still hoping it is all wrong?
Not a bummer at all, it's a GOOD thing. Proprietary Standard < International Standard any day of the week.
RED ZMAN said:
Not a bummer at all, it's a GOOD thing. Proprietary Standard < International Standard any day of the week.
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I was going to say this as well. Google is all about proper standards and not going proprietary (probably part of their "Dont be evil" motto). It will suck for a while since USB Type C is not widely adopted yet but soon enough it will be.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/google-nexus-6p,review-3131.html
"Google claims that when the phone's battery finally dies, the Nexus 6P can recover up to 7 hours of juice from only 10 minutes of charging with the included charger. After 10 minutes, the phone's power level went from 0 to 32 percent. At the 20-minute mark, the phone had a 48 percent charge."
I see why they didn't bother with the expense of getting qc certification. This is insanely fast charging. The first 10 minutes is roughly 3% per minute! All I need now are 3rd party charger options and I know aukey, anker and tronsmart among others are working on it and I'm confident we'll see cost effective options available in the next month max.
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So they tested a few. A lot of them worked, as in charging quickly, fast or "rapidly". Please read the article...tsk tsk...
It's a good thing I purchased a few Aukey and Tronsmarts that were just on sale recently. And I'm sure a lot of us jumped on those deals too, so a lot of us are good.
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What do you mean "if true"? Google stated that in their reddit AMA and now there is an article with real world test data showing it. Are you still hoping it is all wrong?
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I don't know what I was thinking honestly. I guess I just wanted some other opinions. I know it will be all good down the road. It just sucks that I have a good 3 or 4 chargers that won't be able to get the job done as fast anymore. I did read the entire article, but it looks like they've updated it a couple times since.
Actually whichever phone you may get, there would be some missing features always. Better cope with it and wait for the next editions.
Quick charge, fast charge, turbo charge... It's all essentially the same..
The processor basically allows you to connect a high powered charger. It's like connecting a tablet charger to your phone..
The names are nothing but useless branding
thesparky007 said:
Quick charge, fast charge, turbo charge... It's all essentially the same..
The processor basically allows you to connect a high powered charger. It's like connecting a tablet charger to your phone..
The names are nothing but useless branding
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WRONG
Quickcharge is more efficient with the same cable. Fastcharge needs a thicker cable to work the same.
/intentionally being vague and not explaining the electronics theory behind my wild claims in order to get a rise out of the un-aptly name sparky.
To add to this, USB Power isn't dumb.. there's a handshake involved where the device says what it needs. You can have a charger capable of 1.21 jiggawatts if you like, if it thinks the device caps out at 2A, that's what it'll send. It needs to understand the chargng protocol in use.
thesparky007 said:
Quick charge, fast charge, turbo charge... It's all essentially the same..
The processor basically allows you to connect a high powered charger. It's like connecting a tablet charger to your phone..
The names are nothing but useless branding
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Not true,
Quick charge works by increasing the voltage, with varying charging profiles. The following are the profiles of the Nexus 6 charger:
Standard - 5V x 1.6A = 8W
Turbo 1 - 9V x 1.6A = 14.4W
Turbo 2 - 12V x 1.2A = 14.4W
The Nexus 6P power brick charges at 5V x 3A = 15W
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Not true,
Quick charge works by increasing the voltage, with varying charging profiles. The following are the profiles of the Nexus 6 charger:
Standard - 5V x 1.6A = 8W
Turbo 1 - 9V x 1.6A = 14.4W
Turbo 2 - 12V x 1.2A = 14.4W
The Nexus 6P power brick charges at 5V x 3A = 15W
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You've probably heard of quick charging, turbo charging, adaptive fast charging, rapid charging, and Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 before - or at least one or two of these things. What you may not know is that all of them are actually basically the same thing, based on the same licensed technology from Qualcomm known as Quick Charge.
With that basic premise in mind, what I want to dispel in this article is the notion that you need an OEM-branded charger to get the maximum charging speed out of your smartphone, because this generally isn't true. And understanding that could save you a fair bit of money, especially if your phone doesn't come with a quick charger, or you need a second one for work or travel.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-need-to-know-about-charging-your-smartphone/
There might subtle differences between how google implemented it with the 6P vs the others but the overall premise is the same
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-need-to-know-about-charging-your-smartphone/
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That has nothing to do with charging over usb c... That's in regard to qualcomms tech being called different things by the marketing of different manufactures... motorola calls their turbo...
edit: There's a big difference between charging at varying voltage and current, than not. You can't really call them the same thing even know the end result is pretty similar
Luxferro said:
That has nothing to do with charging over usb c... That's in regard to qualcomms tech being called different things by the marketing of different manufactures... motorola calls their turbo...
edit: There's a big difference between charging at varying voltage and current, than not. You can't really call them the same thing even know the end result is pretty similar
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No, the whole point is that the OP can still use those chargers he already has and get the same result.
Good news folks.
The 5X has a QC 2.0 chip. http://9to5google.com/2015/10/22/nexus-5x-teardown-repairability/
The 6P likely has the same (we'll have to wait and see).
Now the question is when will the devices be certified and the chip enabled.
toyanucci said:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/google-nexus-6p,review-3131.html
"Google claims that when the phone's battery finally dies, the Nexus 6P can recover up to 7 hours of juice from only 10 minutes of charging with the included charger. After 10 minutes, the phone's power level went from 0 to 32 percent. At the 20-minute mark, the phone had a 48 percent charge."
I see why they didn't bother with the expense of getting qc certification. This is insanely fast charging. The first 10 minutes is roughly 3% per minute! All I need now are 3rd party charger options and I know aukey, anker and tronsmart among others are working on it and I'm confident we'll see cost effective options available in the next month max.
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It is insanely fast. I have a Chromebook Pixel that uses the type-c connector. It's faster than both my turbo charger and Samsung's fast charger. Most of my connectors are the regular USB. I didn't buy a lot of QC chargers other than what came with my phones, and one Motorola turbo charger.
Funny, was just watching the 5x teardown - condensed version - and they mention quick charge 2.0 chip was there.
Then I was reading about the n6 for $270 on eBay, and they mention this about qc 2.0;
can regain six hours of power after 15 minutes of charging with Motorola's special turbocharger that features Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 technology.
We get 7 hrs with 10 min charging time on the 6p, with a bigger battery.
Guess which I prefer to have .....
the bottom line is how long will it take from 0-100% charged
Hi,
I've always found the battery in this phone to be poor.
I've owned years of Xperias and only one other had a bad battery life (Sola). This very often won't reach 1 day even on half brightness. I don't use this phone any more than the last one, or the one before, so it's the phone not my usage.
I just asked Sony and it doesn't use Quick Charge 2.0. That explains it. It charges so slowly.
The stock charger pumps out 850mAh. I see some chargers pumping out 1500mAh. What would happen to our phone? Would it charge even a little bit faster? Is it a threat to the phone's health?
Thanks
i charge my sony m4 with lg charger 1.8 A output, my phone charge much faster
Nice to hear!
Is that 1800 mAh? Input or output?
Thanks!
It shouldn't really damage phone I'm using 2.1mAh output charger on my current phone Lg L7 II while waiting for new phone (M4 Aqua) and it charges really fast, lasts long and no problems so far
Nice to hear it, guys. I sent an email to Sony and they answered that it supports 1500 mA so I bought(ordered) EP880 charger today. After trying it I will tell you how it works.
Thanks guys!
This is more like it! The M4 section has lots of views in threads but few replies! If we drop a line or two we can really learn from each other like this.
1500 definitely works eh? I chatted with a Sony rep and they said Quick Charge 2.0 is not supported in the phone. Not much info. from them. But I will look for the 1500 charger. That would be great.
2100? Wow! I wonder if your LG phone supports Quick Charge 2.0?
Interesting thread:
I found this interesting Sony Mobile thread where a Sony rep tells us a bit about it: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/needed-help-with-charger-for-xperia-z/td-p/373667
My first instinct was to browse on eBay. I'm going to get one there. Watch out though! There are many non-Sony chargers and some of them don't look trustworthy. Also, many of them say output 5.0V. But at which speed? 850 mAh or 1500 mAh? Some say 5.0V=850 mAh and others say 5.0V=1500 mAh. So, if you don't shop carefully, you may get the 850 charger all over again!
UCH10 Charger
As another comparisson, the standard (and only) quick charger available on Sony Mobile for any phone is this one UCH10:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch10/specifications/#tabs
Output
5V/1800mA(9W)
9V/1700mA(15.3W)
12V/1275mA(15.3W)
Support Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 Class A
"Maybe I'll try that charger? It can't do any damage according to Sony Mobile:
There's really no recommended mA from what i can find. The phone will use the amount it can handle up to a certain level. The fact that a charger is specified to a high mA doesn't mean that it's "pushing" that into the phone. It's what it can deliver."
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/needed-help-with-charger-for-xperia-z/td-p/373667
BUT...I checked Qualcomm's compatible device list, there are some Sony Xperia devices but the Z5 series mostly, not the M4. So, it would charge the phone but at a much slower rate...1500 maybe? But not Quick Charge 2.0 speed. So the older EP880 charger of 1500 mAh seems to be the max for this chipset/device.
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
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Nice to hear!
Is that 1800 mAh? Input or output?
Thanks!
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Uotput
1,800 mAh, that's the same as the Sony Quick Charge 2.0 UCH10. That's definitely 1,800 mAh? I just don't want to spend €27 on discovering that I made an error and it's not compatible!
P.s. I've bought the EP880 1,500 charger and tested it, you can read here.
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1,800 mAh, that's the same as the Sony Quick Charge 2.0 UCH10. That's definitely 1,800 mAh? I just don't want to spend €27 on discovering that I made an error and it's not compatible!
P.s. I've bought the EP880 1,500 charger and tested it, you can read here.
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Do not buy it.
My answer there is right for you, too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-...-ep880-fast-charger-1-0-t3274091#post64390697
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2100? Wow! I wonder if your LG phone supports Quick Charge 2.0?
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Well I don't know really Qualcomm page says that snapdragon 200 supports QuickCharge 2.0. Yet I don't have any issues with it. It takes around 1hour 10mins to charge from 4% to 100% 2450mAh battery
Just to point out that in my research Qualcomms "Quick Charge" uses a higher voltage output while you're not using your phone.
These chargers are "smart" in that they communicate with the phones chip to give the OK on fast charging. If they don't they'll stick to universal 5v output.
You can buy other aftermarket "fast chargers" and these only output 5v but at higher amps. I use a 4.2amp charger for all my devices, my M4 takes about 50 minutes from 10-100%.
Also note that devices generally will only draw what they need/want. If a device only requires 1 amp and you use a 2+amp charger, it will only draw 1 amp.
Weznezz said:
Just to point out that in my research Qualcomms "Quick Charge" uses a higher voltage output while you're not using your phone.
These chargers are "smart" in that they communicate with the phones chip to give the OK on fast charging. If they don't they'll stick to universal 5v output.
You can buy other aftermarket "fast chargers" and these only output 5v but at higher amps. I use a 4.2amp charger for all my devices, my M4 takes about 50 minutes from 10-100%.
Also note that devices generally will only draw what they need/want. If a device only requires 1 amp and you use a 2+amp charger, it will only draw 1 amp.
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Hi, thanks for the info.
You may have seen that we're confused about the M4's capabilities. Sony says it cannot support Quick Charge 2.0. Qualcomm lists that chip (in some, not all, I noticed) pages on their site as supporting Quick Charge 2.0. Do you know if it does?
I'm new to learning about devices drawing power. Would you mind giving a brief run down on what the M4 can draw in terms of power, what the stock charger draws? Then we could see better what a 4.2amp does.
Please and thanks!
I can confirm that several different QC2.0 chargers charge the M4 Aqua NO FASTER than a capable 2.1/2.4A charger. While the Snapdragon 615 chipset supports QC2.0, there is other circuitry in the charging path that must support it as well and Sony chose not to implement it in the M4 Aqua.
shopkins82 said:
I can confirm that several different QC2.0 chargers charge the M4 Aqua NO FASTER than a capable 2.1/2.4A charger. While the Snapdragon 615 chipset supports QC2.0, there is other circuitry in the charging path that must support it as well and Sony chose not to implement it in the M4 Aqua.
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the difference is generally in the kernel
for example, the lg g2 mini has an SD 400 that supports QC 1.0 and is not functional in the stock rom, but with modded kernel that feature was enabled and the phone charges faster with a 2A charger
sergioslk said:
the difference is generally in the kernel
for example, the lg g2 mini has an SD 400 that supports QC 1.0 and is not functional in the stock rom, but with modded kernel that feature was enabled and the phone charges faster with a 2A charger
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Can you point to an example for QC2.0? For 2.0, the charging circuitry must be able to sense and adjust voltage and current draw from 5v to 12v with steps in between. QC 1.0 is Qualcomm's implementation/branding traditional 5v/2A charging. Also, QC 2.0 circuitry can be licensed and implemented in other SOCs as is evidenced by the ZenPhone 2 (Intel) and Galaxy S6 (Exynos).
You're right that QC2.0 can be implemented at the Kernel level IF the underlying circuitry is already there (as was the case with the SD800 powered LG G2). That said, if the supporting circuitry is not there (independent of the SOC) it can't just be enabled in software.
Hello all,
I have a really stupid question but it's keeping me awake...
The DashCharge charger, can I use it with other devices? Like a MP3 player? Or another phone? Or is it purely and uniquely proprietary for the OnePlus phones and it might damage the other devices I would use it with?
I know it won't charge faster the devices or... But if I can plug anything with it, then I can drop the other chargers I have and keep only the DC in my bag
Thanx for your replies
Dash power chargers work at 5 Volts 4 Amps which translates to 20 Watts, if I'm not mistaken, Qualcomm's Quick Charge 3.0 works at 6.5 Volts on 3 Amps which means 19.5 Watts of power. The difference in Volts and amps between different chargers is not an issue for most devices for two main reasons.
1. Amperage is pulled by the device, which means that if you have a charger with a 4 Amp capacity, you can pretty much charge any device that draws up to 4 Amps, since no phone that I know of besides the 1+5 and 1+3(t) draws that much, you'll be fine.
2. On the voltage side, most phone chargers (apart from Qualcomm's Quick Charge) usually work at 5 Volts, the same as 1+ Dash chargers. And even if the Voltage rating on the charger is higher than the phone. These type of devices have safety features that reduce the output if they don't recognize the device being charged as compatible with their technology.
So for a quick recap, if the phone you're charging is not compatible with the technology of the charger (1+ Dash, Qualcomm QC for example) the charger will make sure to reduce the amount of power being fed to the device to a safe amount. So normally a non Dash compatible phone will probably charge at no more than 5V 2 or 2.4A.
Thanx a lot for your answer
So I can plug to my DashChargers my MP3 players and lent them sometimes to my colleagues to charge their phones as well, with nothing to worry about. It's good to know
LeKeiser said:
Thanx a lot for your answer
So I can plug to my DashChargers my MP3 players and lent them sometimes to my colleagues to charge their phones as well, with nothing to worry about. It's good to know
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Yup, it just won't charge at full speed as it would with 1+ devices
You can use it with any device you like, but only OnePlus devices get the fast charge advantage!
Had anyone tried usb c power delivery charge yet?
I've got one for my cheap vernee which works well, in theory it requires negotiation to draw the correct power, but wondered if anyone has tested one yet
and oppo
I now have a couple Qualcomm 3.0 fast chargers, the fast charger from my LG G5, and the One plus fast charger. Only the One plus charger indicates that the 6T is quick charging. My question is if the other fast chargers are still faster to charge this phone than a standard charger.
Thanks
marcmarshall said:
I now have a couple Qualcomm 3.0 fast chargers, the fast charger from my LG G5, and the One plus fast charger. Only the One plus charger indicates that the 6T is quick charging. My question is if the other fast chargers are still faster to charge this phone than a standard charger.
Thanks
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No, you need to use DASH Charger to have fast charging
polzovotel said:
No, you need to use DASH Charger to have fast charging
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Thanks
This link explains it well: https://m.androidcentral.com/dash-charge
They will charge faster than an old .5 amp you may have kicking around in a drawer. Realistically they will charge fast enough because how often do you need every drop you can get as quickly as possible? On the occasions you do need that you just take it to the dash charger and all is good. It's not just me saying that, there was a thread on a previous OnePlus device where someone else said what I just did and the agreement was unanimous. I couldn't argue it myself, I had found just the same to be true; I was typically in no hurry to charge the device and when I was I just made a point of going to the dash charger. I'm not sure what your use case is but if it was to go all dash all the time you may want to consider waiting a little and seeing how it plays out in use. I think you'll find your ok with just the one that came in the box or getting a second for the office or cart and calling it a day.
Someone not only do you need the charger you need the cable to? That wasn't explained in the article. Can you clarify?
marcmarshall said:
This link explains it well: https://m.androidcentral.com/dash-charge
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biggiestuff said:
Someone not only do you need the charger you need the cable to? That wasn't explained in the article. Can you clarify?
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You will need both the official OnePlus cable and wall wort to get the full charging speed.
Are the chargers and cables for the Oneplus 5 and 6 the same as the 6T?
marcmarshall said:
Are the chargers and cables for the Oneplus 5 and 6 the same as the 6T?
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Yep, they’ve been using the same charger since the 3.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/accessories/ordinary-usb-cables-support-dash-t3838411
This post describes how the OPPO charger works with some Amazon cables to give the full 4A charge on a OP6. I've ordered the cables linked in the first post and an OPPO VOOC charger to try out, and keep for a spare / work setup for my 6T once it gets here today.
Where does it say if it's Dash Charging on the phone? With my Note 9 I can see if it's quick charging or not, depending on charger.
roaduardo said:
Where does it say if it's Dash Charging on the phone? With my Note 9 I can see if it's quick charging or not, depending on charger.
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You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
KOLIOSIS said:
You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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Oh, true. I forgot about the EU legal stuff.
KOLIOSIS said:
You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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You will see a lightning bolt in place for the battery icon when Dash Charging is active, and if you plug in the Dash charger while on the lock screen, it will also make a short blip noise with an animated lightning bolt. Standard chargers and/or cables will show the lightning bolt inside the battery icon. You can always look at the charger current using the *#808# menu though.
Wait does the cable really matters? from the article linked, looks like the tech is only in the adapter
It matters because if you don't use one designed for it you wont get Dash charging, and yeah, its irritating that we have drawers full of cables that we cant use. As to the question of how you can tell, it says "Rapidly charging" on the lock screen. You'll also notice the phone gets charged stupidly fast, that's a big tell.
Gungrave223 said:
Wait does the cable really matters? from the article linked, looks like the tech is only in the adapter
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Yes it does. Pushing 4 amps to get more watts requires low resistance cables, otherwise the resistance will limit maximum wattage. With QuickCharge (instead of DASH charge) voltage is raised instead of current, mitigating the resistance problem.
For QuickCharge there also a handshake telling both the phone and charger that both devices support a certain charging standard. Only then current (or voltage) is raised above normal USB levels. Otherwise you would risk destroying devices which are not capable of fast charging.
Bäcker said:
Yes it does. Pushing 4 amps to get more watts requires low resistance cables, otherwise the resistance will limit maximum wattage. With QuickCharge (instead of DASH charge) voltage is raised instead of current, mitigating the resistance problem.
For QuickCharge there also a handshake telling both the phone and charger that both devices support a certain charging standard. Only then current (or voltage) is raised above normal USB levels. Otherwise you would risk destroying devices which are not capable of fast charging.
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Tragic...I invested a lot into my PD chargers for my 2xl guess I need to update everything again
But do you? How often do you NEED dash charge? You can still use all the other charges, they just won't charge as fast, but that's not a bad thing if you are not in a hurry.
The Dash charger works the fastest, however my Quick Charge 3.0 car and wall chargers are still delivering 2 to 3 times more m to my OneTouch 6T then my Galaxy 8 (Rated for Quick Charge 2.0) ever took, that is using higher end usb-c cables but not the Dash cables.
The Highest I ever saw my s8 take was 1300 mA, this 6T will take 2300 mA from my QC 3.0 car charger and 3200 mA from my QC 3.0 wall charger, as long as the battery is under 70%. However, the Dash charger with Dash cable gets around 4800 mA but it seems to fill the battery at a more rapid pace then what I would expect for that amount of power going into it.
The Dash cables have more pins in them to deliver segmented power, at the proper voltage and amperage, to partitioned batteries simultaneously in the 6T without it causing your phone to heat up.