I have a nice collection of quick charge 2.0 chargers around the house, so this is a real negative blow if true.
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
It still charges very fast with the stock charger.
Old news by the way.
What do you mean "if true"? Google stated that in their reddit AMA and now there is an article with real world test data showing it. Are you still hoping it is all wrong?
Not a bummer at all, it's a GOOD thing. Proprietary Standard < International Standard any day of the week.
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Not a bummer at all, it's a GOOD thing. Proprietary Standard < International Standard any day of the week.
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I was going to say this as well. Google is all about proper standards and not going proprietary (probably part of their "Dont be evil" motto). It will suck for a while since USB Type C is not widely adopted yet but soon enough it will be.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/google-nexus-6p,review-3131.html
"Google claims that when the phone's battery finally dies, the Nexus 6P can recover up to 7 hours of juice from only 10 minutes of charging with the included charger. After 10 minutes, the phone's power level went from 0 to 32 percent. At the 20-minute mark, the phone had a 48 percent charge."
I see why they didn't bother with the expense of getting qc certification. This is insanely fast charging. The first 10 minutes is roughly 3% per minute! All I need now are 3rd party charger options and I know aukey, anker and tronsmart among others are working on it and I'm confident we'll see cost effective options available in the next month max.
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So they tested a few. A lot of them worked, as in charging quickly, fast or "rapidly". Please read the article...tsk tsk...
It's a good thing I purchased a few Aukey and Tronsmarts that were just on sale recently. And I'm sure a lot of us jumped on those deals too, so a lot of us are good.
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What do you mean "if true"? Google stated that in their reddit AMA and now there is an article with real world test data showing it. Are you still hoping it is all wrong?
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I don't know what I was thinking honestly. I guess I just wanted some other opinions. I know it will be all good down the road. It just sucks that I have a good 3 or 4 chargers that won't be able to get the job done as fast anymore. I did read the entire article, but it looks like they've updated it a couple times since.
Actually whichever phone you may get, there would be some missing features always. Better cope with it and wait for the next editions.
Quick charge, fast charge, turbo charge... It's all essentially the same..
The processor basically allows you to connect a high powered charger. It's like connecting a tablet charger to your phone..
The names are nothing but useless branding
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Quick charge, fast charge, turbo charge... It's all essentially the same..
The processor basically allows you to connect a high powered charger. It's like connecting a tablet charger to your phone..
The names are nothing but useless branding
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WRONG
Quickcharge is more efficient with the same cable. Fastcharge needs a thicker cable to work the same.
/intentionally being vague and not explaining the electronics theory behind my wild claims in order to get a rise out of the un-aptly name sparky.
To add to this, USB Power isn't dumb.. there's a handshake involved where the device says what it needs. You can have a charger capable of 1.21 jiggawatts if you like, if it thinks the device caps out at 2A, that's what it'll send. It needs to understand the chargng protocol in use.
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Quick charge, fast charge, turbo charge... It's all essentially the same..
The processor basically allows you to connect a high powered charger. It's like connecting a tablet charger to your phone..
The names are nothing but useless branding
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Not true,
Quick charge works by increasing the voltage, with varying charging profiles. The following are the profiles of the Nexus 6 charger:
Standard - 5V x 1.6A = 8W
Turbo 1 - 9V x 1.6A = 14.4W
Turbo 2 - 12V x 1.2A = 14.4W
The Nexus 6P power brick charges at 5V x 3A = 15W
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Not true,
Quick charge works by increasing the voltage, with varying charging profiles. The following are the profiles of the Nexus 6 charger:
Standard - 5V x 1.6A = 8W
Turbo 1 - 9V x 1.6A = 14.4W
Turbo 2 - 12V x 1.2A = 14.4W
The Nexus 6P power brick charges at 5V x 3A = 15W
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You've probably heard of quick charging, turbo charging, adaptive fast charging, rapid charging, and Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 before - or at least one or two of these things. What you may not know is that all of them are actually basically the same thing, based on the same licensed technology from Qualcomm known as Quick Charge.
With that basic premise in mind, what I want to dispel in this article is the notion that you need an OEM-branded charger to get the maximum charging speed out of your smartphone, because this generally isn't true. And understanding that could save you a fair bit of money, especially if your phone doesn't come with a quick charger, or you need a second one for work or travel.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-need-to-know-about-charging-your-smartphone/
There might subtle differences between how google implemented it with the 6P vs the others but the overall premise is the same
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-need-to-know-about-charging-your-smartphone/
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That has nothing to do with charging over usb c... That's in regard to qualcomms tech being called different things by the marketing of different manufactures... motorola calls their turbo...
edit: There's a big difference between charging at varying voltage and current, than not. You can't really call them the same thing even know the end result is pretty similar
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That has nothing to do with charging over usb c... That's in regard to qualcomms tech being called different things by the marketing of different manufactures... motorola calls their turbo...
edit: There's a big difference between charging at varying voltage and current, than not. You can't really call them the same thing even know the end result is pretty similar
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No, the whole point is that the OP can still use those chargers he already has and get the same result.
Good news folks.
The 5X has a QC 2.0 chip. http://9to5google.com/2015/10/22/nexus-5x-teardown-repairability/
The 6P likely has the same (we'll have to wait and see).
Now the question is when will the devices be certified and the chip enabled.
toyanucci said:
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/google-nexus-6p,review-3131.html
"Google claims that when the phone's battery finally dies, the Nexus 6P can recover up to 7 hours of juice from only 10 minutes of charging with the included charger. After 10 minutes, the phone's power level went from 0 to 32 percent. At the 20-minute mark, the phone had a 48 percent charge."
I see why they didn't bother with the expense of getting qc certification. This is insanely fast charging. The first 10 minutes is roughly 3% per minute! All I need now are 3rd party charger options and I know aukey, anker and tronsmart among others are working on it and I'm confident we'll see cost effective options available in the next month max.
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It is insanely fast. I have a Chromebook Pixel that uses the type-c connector. It's faster than both my turbo charger and Samsung's fast charger. Most of my connectors are the regular USB. I didn't buy a lot of QC chargers other than what came with my phones, and one Motorola turbo charger.
Funny, was just watching the 5x teardown - condensed version - and they mention quick charge 2.0 chip was there.
Then I was reading about the n6 for $270 on eBay, and they mention this about qc 2.0;
can regain six hours of power after 15 minutes of charging with Motorola's special turbocharger that features Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 technology.
We get 7 hrs with 10 min charging time on the 6p, with a bigger battery.
Guess which I prefer to have .....
the bottom line is how long will it take from 0-100% charged
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I dont know whats getting worst.
But whats the best replacement charger for xtz that has a higher amps? I already looked in amazon and most of it has a 2a dual and i still want to ask the community
And guys if possible please suggest those has a long data cable
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I cant wait for the next update on XTZ, something like .67
Displa, camera, battery and some tweak, not sure.
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I dont know whats getting worst.
But whats the best replacement charger for xtz that has a higher amps? I already looked in amazon and most of it has a 2a dual and i still want to ask the community
And guys if possible please suggest those has a long data cable
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I'm not saying it's the best, but I've been using an old iPad charger (2.1A) for the last 2 months without any problems. I plug the charger into a mains extension lead so I don't need a very long USB lead.
Well i have an iphone5 charger here it says output 5v---1a
Is it ok to charge thendevice with it?
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arcsuser said:
Well i have an iphone5 charger here it says output 5v---1a
Is it ok to charge thendevice with it?
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Any USB wall wart that is 1.5 amps - 2.1 amps (1500 - 2100 mA) @5 volts will work. The more amps the faster it will charge. In a pinch you could use a 1000 mA charger, it will just take longer.
Alright im confused.. Which is faster mA or A?
And by the way im not asking about the power here but a replacement.
Thanks for the infos though
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1000 Milliamps = 1 Amp
1500 mA = 1.5 A
2100 mA = 2.1 A
Pop Quiz: 5A is how many mA? _____
5000mA is how many A? _____
Often wall warts list output in milliamps
Some external batteries list output in Amps.
It's not hard to convert between the two.
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1000 Milliamps = 1 Amp
1500 mA = 1.5 A
2100 mA = 2.1 A
Pop Quiz: 5A is how many mA? _____
5000mA is how many A? _____
Often wall warts list output in milliamps
Some external batteries list output in Amps.
It's not hard to convert between the two.
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I get it..
5000mA
5A
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arcsuser said:
I get it..
5000mA
5A
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Congrats, you passed electricity 101.
Keep in mind that batteries can be fickle creatures. Sony delivers the XTZ with a 1500 mA charger. Based on that alone, it's probably best to replace the original charger with another 1500 mA charger. While you can certainly use more than 1500 mA and it will certainly charge faster, in the long run you may end up shortening the battery life. There are only so many charge cycles to be had in any given battery and quick charging can put an extra strain on a battery that wasn't manufactured to suck up power that quickly.
In a pinch, use whatever you have on hand or can find. For everyday charging, its best to default to what the manufacturer recommends.
The Apple 12W one works perfectly fine and charges the tablet so much faster!
There is people here saying it is impossible because of battery electronics.
It's quite simple: They're plain wrong.
Jequan said:
The Apple 12W one works perfectly fine and charges the tablet so much faster!
There is people here saying it is impossible because of battery electronics.
It's quite simple: They're plain wrong.
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Without doubt the best charger I've used for the money. It keeps up with battery drain on heavy use (Full HD video+Net+ others...at the same time) Stock charger does not. At first glance it does seem expensive but does the job very well.
I sent Sony a link to the Apple website for these as it's much better than the POS charger they give you with their £400 "Flagship" tablet. Well worth the £15 price tag.
Jequan said:
The Apple 12W one works perfectly fine and charges the tablet so much faster!
There is people here saying it is impossible because of battery electronics.
It's quite simple: They're plain wrong.
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Well, yes and no. Watts, Amps and Volts are all different measurements for different things and it can be quite confusing to figure out to the uninitiated. Watts is a mathematical calculation based on Ohm's Law. Watts = Volts x Amps
All USB devices accept a maximum of 5 volts. USB standards cap the max power delivered to a device @ 5 volts. Most standard USB ports deliver 5 volts @1 amp. Newer computers and specially designed charging ports can and do deliver more than 1 A via USB but they all deliver a maximum of 5 volts.
12 watts divided by 5 volts = 2.4A
If you look at your charger you'll see the output amps listed as 2.1A or 2100 mA.
Sony's included charger only delivers 1.5A or 1500mA, so yes it charges slower and when the tablet is under high load, has a hard time keeping the battery at 100%.
The real concern here, is what effect does delivering 2.1A of current to the battery day after day have on the useful life expectancy of that battery? I don't know the answer because I don't know anything about the battery that Sony uses. It's possible, if Sony, used a top quality battery, that charging with 2.1A will have no effect at all and Sony just wanted to save a buck or two by including a weaker charger in the box. On the other hand, Sony may have deliberately used a battery designed to accept 1.5A and included an appropriate charger.
As I said in a post above, apart from the battery overheating while charging (if it wasn't designed to charge @ 2.1A) and a reduced useful life of the battery, there shouldn't be any real problem using a "slightly" more powerful charger - up to a point. Charge with too many amps and the battery will probably explode or at the very least melt, potentially causing a fire if left unattended.
When talking to Sony, the question you need to ask, "Is the battery rated for 2.1A or only 1.5A?"
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Well, yes and no. Watts, Amps and Volts are all different measurements for different things and it can be quite confusing to figure out to the uninitiated. Watts is a mathematical calculation based on Ohm's Law. Watts = Volts x Amps
All USB devices accept a maximum of 5 volts. USB standards cap the max power delivered to a device @ 5 volts. Most standard USB ports deliver 5 volts @1 amp. Newer computers and specially designed charging ports can and do deliver more than 1 A via USB but they all deliver a maximum of 5 volts.
12 watts divided by 5 volts = 2.4A
If you look at your charger you'll see the output amps listed as 2.1A or 2100 mA.
Sony's included charger only delivers 1.5A or 1500mA, so yes it charges slower and when the tablet is under high load, has a hard time keeping the battery at 100%.
The real concern here, is what effect does delivering 2.1A of current to the battery day after day have on the useful life expectancy of that battery? I don't know the answer because I don't know anything about the battery that Sony uses. It's possible, if Sony, used a top quality battery, that charging with 2.1A will have no effect at all and Sony just wanted to save a buck or two by including a weaker charger in the box. On the other hand, Sony may have deliberately used a battery designed to accept 1.5A and included an appropriate charger.
As I said in a post above, apart from the battery overheating while charging (if it wasn't designed to charge @ 2.1A) and a reduced useful life of the battery, there shouldn't be any real problem using a "slightly" more powerful charger - up to a point. Charge with too many amps and the battery will probably explode or at the very least melt, potentially causing a fire if left unattended.
When talking to Sony, the question you need to ask, "Is the battery rated for 2.1A or only 1.5A?"
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That i can agree with and it's a risk i am willing to take. There is people who say the 2.1A charger wont affect charging time in a positive way at all. That's what what i refered to when i said it's not true.
Jequan said:
That i can agree with and it's a risk i am willing to take. There is people who say the 2.1A charger wont affect charging time in a positive way at all. That's what what i refered to when i said it's not true.
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Definitely. More current (which is what Amps measure) means faster charge times, as long as what is being charged can accept the current being provided. You should be fine, but what do I know. PM me in six months and let me know if your battery still last a reasonable amount of time - then we'll know.
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Well, yes and no. Watts, Amps and Volts are all different measurements for different things and it can be quite confusing to figure out to the uninitiated. Watts is a mathematical calculation based on Ohm's Law. Watts = Volts x Amps
All USB devices accept a maximum of 5 volts. USB standards cap the max power delivered to a device @ 5 volts. Most standard USB ports deliver 5 volts @1 amp. Newer computers and specially designed charging ports can and do deliver more than 1 A via USB but they all deliver a maximum of 5 volts.
12 watts divided by 5 volts = 2.4A
If you look at your charger you'll see the output amps listed as 2.1A or 2100 mA.
Sony's included charger only delivers 1.5A or 1500mA, so yes it charges slower and when the tablet is under high load, has a hard time keeping the battery at 100%.
The real concern here, is what effect does delivering 2.1A of current to the battery day after day have on the useful life expectancy of that battery? I don't know the answer because I don't know anything about the battery that Sony uses. It's possible, if Sony, used a top quality battery, that charging with 2.1A will have no effect at all and Sony just wanted to save a buck or two by including a weaker charger in the box. On the other hand, Sony may have deliberately used a battery designed to accept 1.5A and included an appropriate charger.
As I said in a post above, apart from the battery overheating while charging (if it wasn't designed to charge @ 2.1A) and a reduced useful life of the battery, there shouldn't be any real problem using a "slightly" more powerful charger - up to a point. Charge with too many amps and the battery will probably explode or at the very least melt, potentially causing a fire if left unattended.
When talking to Sony, the question you need to ask, "Is the battery rated for 2.1A or only 1.5A?"
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You're kinda right, but kinda not....
The charging circuitry inside the tablet is what regulates the charging current, not the 'charger', it will have min and max currents (the thing we plug into the wall that we all call a charger, is really just a power supply, there's no charging circuitry inside it.) That's why it doesn't charge from a standard usb port (which is 500mA) so, if it's charging faster with a 2.1A power supply, then it's obviously designed to do so.
Let's say, for example, the tab can accept a charging current of between 700mA-2.5A. Obviously, the charge time will be slower at 700mA than 2.5A, however, if you were to plug in a 5A power supply, the charging circuitry in the tablet will still only draw the 2.5A its designed to. So, don't worry about giving it too much, it's not possible.
Now, I don't know what the min and max charge currents are, but I can tell you that mine will charge (very slowly) from a 700mA LG charger.
And also, the dock for the tablet states an input of 1800mA,
So, we can assume the min is at least 700mA and the max is at least 1800.
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technaudio,
That's my age showing. Back before some smart guy invented the wheel, we gave a device power and if we gave too much a fuse would blow. I didn't mean to imply that the charging circuit was contained in the wall plug but at the same time, I failed to appreciate that the Tab was designed to prevent an over current situation.
...now let's see what happens when I give this puppy 15A AC...damn, melted the usb cable...
@dph3055
I knew what you meant, but some others on here probably wouldn't.
I've seen a lot of threads saying using a 'too powerful' charger will damage the battery.
It just won't.
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Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
Thanks
WolwX said:
Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
Thanks
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for few days i went to jarir book store on KSA . I found Charger good price also 2 USB 5 volt 2.4 Amber ... compatiable with mate 7 and faster from orignal ...
just to know more fasting to charge wil damge your batter of mate 7 quickly .also orignal 2 A will damge
for me I charging with Iphone charge 1A good for batter and Stander and low risk to Device
If you want proper charging, then always use the accessories coming with that product. It is tested for sure and good. Other than that, you can use any charger delivering the same charge. The original charger is 5 volt, 2 Ampere. Don't use anything above 2 amperes as it may damage the device. Below that will charge it slowly.
BTW, why you don't want to use the original charger?
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I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
Is it safe for battery life of Mate 7?
I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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Can you test it with ampere (free in gplay) i don't think it will charge over 1800mA so that it acts like a normal 2a charger
Fast charging
Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
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Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
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that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
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Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
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Why don't you buy a powerbank? I can advice you the xiaomi 16000mah. That one charges fast and you can be mobile.
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps. Batteries will automatically lose cells from charge cycles and by the time you feel the effects of the battery going bad, you would have already moved on to the next device for the next person to worry about. And saying to use the Stock Charger isn't really good enough as the Stock charger doesn't serve as a Car charger also. If you want to charge your phone quick, and you already have a 2 Amp charger, Check your microUSB cable. Don't use junk cables, buy quality or use the cable you received with the device. You get what you pay for. Fast Charging won't work as the Charger has a chip inside that communicates with the Phone and Device. Also, when buying a charger, don't just randomly buy a charger online, Make sure its UL Tested. Even if it says UL tested, there should be a test number on that UL Label, take it a step further and google it and make sure it matches the charger specs and passes as knockoff chargers are notorious for copying other chargers Regulatory icons to make it seem authentic. You don't want to buy a junk charger that ends up burning your house down or gives you a very bad 120 Volt shock through the microUSB cable that would also kill and fry your phone.
treem said:
I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
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1.6A is nothing.. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours
one friend conected his phone to a hi suite, he went to repair sistem or something like that, and it pop out an option of QUICK CHARGE... even he doesent know how that hapends, now his phone charges faster. he is on b331 rom
cyvr1 said:
Hi,
that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
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so much misinformation
this post is the only one who gets it right.
Kalemucu said:
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
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You have not read my earlier post or you did not understand it. Changing the charger on the Mate 7 will have NO effect (zero, nada) on the time required to charge your phone except the charger delivers less then appr. 1.6A. Then it would take longer and evetually kill the charger. The Mate 7 uses a Kirin chip which has no fastcharge implemented. Samsung uses Qualcomm Chips with implemented fastcharge technology. The charger (in fact a power supply) and the phone/CPU/charge controller need to communicate with each other, otherwise fastcharge will not be activated (the reason fastcharge with charge-only cables does not work because they lack the required data cables for communication).
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps.
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Wrong. Correct would be "I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v." The amps of the charger don't matter at all -> amps are PULLED by the phone not pushed to the phone. You could use a charger with 100 or 1000 amps and it would not hurt your phone a bit as long as it is only charged with 5 Volts.
More amps (>1.6A) on the charger do not improve the time for charging one second.
1.6A is nothing. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours.
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Yes, and that won't change one bit even if you use the best and most expensive charger and a 1000$ cable. The Mate 7 is limited by its hardware (built in charge controller) and pulls max 1.6A. End of story.
As long as you don't understand how charging works you will spend 100's of bucks for cables and chargers to no avail.
The only reason, why charging with some charges is quicker than with others is that those chargers actually deliver the amps they are supposed to deliver. There are a lot of cheap/bad chargers out there which are labelled with 5V/2A but only deliver a fraction of the amps. You can identify those chargers easily because they get extremly hot. I use a 2A charger from Aukey which gets only lukeworm.
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Although S7 uses the Snapdragon 820 processor(Most other regions use Samsung Exynos 8 Octa), sadly only features Quick Charge 2.0(please check Qualcomm news:https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapd...-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-powered-snapdragon-820
So I deleted all the quick charge 3.0 product links. If you guys want to find the quick charge 2.0 products, you can visit their official website:
Tronsmart:http://www.tronsmart.com/products/quick-charge-2-0-chargers
Anker:https://www.anker.com/search?keyword=quick charge 2.0
Aukey:http://www.aukey.com/category/Power
Choetech:http://www.choetech.com/Product-search.html?keyword=quick+charge+2.0
For the car, I guess I'll go for Aukey 49,5W 3ports
I recently received the CHOETECH qc 3.0 wall charger to test out and review. I gotta say I love their products. I have a fast wireless chager, a qc 2.0 power bank and the qc 3.0 wall charger. While I don't have any qc 3.0 compatible devices her, this wall charger is awesome. It's very well made, sleek, and charges as fast as the OEM charger from ssung for my note 5. Love love love CHOETECH and all their products and this new wall charger promises to be of the same great quality I have come to know and expect from CHOETECH. Highly recommended!
Picked up a Choetech Quick Charge 3.0 charger and compared w/ the 2.0. It's super convenient to charge 0-100 in no time. Quick Charge as most of you know, allow for high levels of current to flow to the battery, in an attempt to maximize its charging efficiency. Quick Charging also tend to charge their batteries at higher voltages, allowing for a higher rate of power transfer through commonly found cables. The downside to all this is that it can limit the life of your battery since they get hotter. This is the BIG selling point between 3.0 and 2.0, not necessarily charge times but battery life over the long haul. Different batteries require different charging voltages and QC 2.0 supported four modes at varying power levels, 5 volts/2amps, 9V/2A, 12V/1.67A, and a 20 volt option. QC 3.0’s uses voltage between 3.2V and 20V at 200mV increments, allowing for a wider selection of voltages.
This is useful as it reduces the amount of energy wasted during charging. Wasted energy is a big deal because all that extra power would be lost as heat. See, that's what makes the battery run warm thereby limiting the longevity of the battery's life. By having the wider range of voltage you waste less power and that results in less heat, which for you means longer battery life a year from now.
When I tried this with the Note 5, I didn't notice a significant increase in charging time but I did notice less warmth on the back of the phone. Does that prove it's working? I'm not sure but if the option exists, I'd rather try to extend my battery life if possible.
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Picked up a Choetech Quick Charge 3.0 charger and compared w/ the 2.0. It's super convenient to charge 0-100 in no time. Quick Charge as most of you know, allow for high levels of current to flow to the battery, in an attempt to maximize its charging efficiency. Quick Charging also tend to charge their batteries at higher voltages, allowing for a higher rate of power transfer through commonly found cables. The downside to all this is that it can limit the life of your battery since they get hotter. This is the BIG selling point between 3.0 and 2.0, not necessarily charge times but battery life over the long haul. Different batteries require different charging voltages and QC 2.0 supported four modes at varying power levels, 5 volts/2amps, 9V/2A, 12V/1.67A, and a 20 volt option. QC 3.0’s uses voltage between 3.2V and 20V at 200mV increments, allowing for a wider selection of voltages.
This is useful as it reduces the amount of energy wasted during charging. Wasted energy is a big deal because all that extra power would be lost as heat. See, that's what makes the battery run warm thereby limiting the longevity of the battery's life. By having the wider range of voltage you waste less power and that results in less heat, which for you means longer battery life a year from now.
When I tried this with the Note 5, I didn't notice a significant increase in charging time but I did notice less warmth on the back of the phone. Does that prove it's working? I'm not sure but if the option exists, I'd rather try to extend my battery life if possible.
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I just check Qualcomm official website. Now only Anker and Tronsmart are certificated by Qualcomm (Quick Charge 3.0) among the above brands. https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list More and more accessories brands will release quick charge 3.0 products in 2016.
I reviewed the Tronsmart QC 3.0 you have linked in the op. It's a quality peice and even charging my QC 2.0 LG V10, it's a lot faster than the oem charger.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3291099
(REVIEW) Tronsmart Single port Quick Charge 3.0 Wall Charger
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just got a tronsmart myself. car charger and supports usb type c. works well for quick charge on my Moto X Pure Edition and my note 4..cant really comment on the type c charging, though, since I don't have it. but good charger!
did a review here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3302683
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CHOETECH QC 3.0 18w adapter
Hi Everyone,
Just got this charger for my Note 5 ( and soon to own nexus 6P) and I love it! Its awesome to have an additional fast charge with me at work and at home. Now that I have the Note 5 and there is no removable battery I am always plugging in so having an extra Quick Charge at work is great! One of my biggest fears after reading these forums for so many years has been battery management and using the correct plug with each device that I own and with this being Qualcomm 3.0 but reversible to Quick charge 2.0 I Love it, I just carry one plug now (actually I just leave it at the office) and use it for multiple devices! I know you all know that Choetech makes a great product as I have referenced this forum in most of my decision making, and have since purchased many items form the company including the Fast Charge Qi Wireless Charging pad ( I did not get the additional quick charge cable option as I just use my Note 5 plug) but this Charger works great with the Qi Fast Charge Wireless Pad as well if you are in the market for one and if you buy them separately it is not that much more money, to me it was definitely worth it!
With that being said, your forums have helped me for many many years and I just joined and starting writing, so please feel free to let me know if I can answer any questions about this product or any product that I may have. I really love these forums, and I am very happy to be a part of them!
Thanks!
ChoeTech 3.0 Quick Charger
I had the opportunity to review the ChoeTech Quick Charge 3.0 wall charger and I have to say that I am really impressed with the upgrade from the 2.0. I’ve been using the 2.0 for about two months now and I LOVE the rate at which it charges. I would have to say that the most impressive thing about the Quick Charge 3.0 is that I get to 50% battery at bout 7-10 minutes faster than I do on the 2.0! I used to only get to about 35-40% after a 30 minute charge but with the 3.0 I am hitting nearly 50% in 35 or so minutes! Needless to say, I have been very impressed. Another feature that I’ve kind of been raving about is the fact that the USB cable can be entered into the charger block UPSIDE DOWN! I can’t tell you how often I have to fumble around in the dark before bed trying to get the cable back into the charging block (and we all know we put it in the wrong way first EVERY time) but now I just put it in no matter the direction and it just works. Not to mention, the charger comes with a USB-C cable and while I don’t have a phone that requires one, I am glad to have one as I suspect I will one day soon. I truly couldn’t ask for more! Great product, works perfectly. I’ve become a real fan of the ChoeTech products and look forward to seeing what other awesome things they come out with soon!
No shipping to Canada
Unfortunately, none of these products ship to Canada through Amazon.
Here is the link for eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fastest-Qua...613106?hash=item2ca5773172:g:1l0AAOSwfZ1WZSmh
I am not sure if it authentic, however i am waiting to get mine!
seoulbrova said:
Picked up a Choetech Quick Charge 3.0 charger and compared w/ the 2.0. It's super convenient to charge 0-100 in no time. Quick Charge as most of you know, allow for high levels of current to flow to the battery, in an attempt to maximize its charging efficiency. Quick Charging also tend to charge their batteries at higher voltages, allowing for a higher rate of power transfer through commonly found cables. The downside to all this is that it can limit the life of your battery since they get hotter. This is the BIG selling point between 3.0 and 2.0, not necessarily charge times but battery life over the long haul. Different batteries require different charging voltages and QC 2.0 supported four modes at varying power levels, 5 volts/2amps, 9V/2A, 12V/1.67A, and a 20 volt option. QC 3.0’s uses voltage between 3.2V and 20V at 200mV increments, allowing for a wider selection of voltages.
This is useful as it reduces the amount of energy wasted during charging. Wasted energy is a big deal because all that extra power would be lost as heat. See, that's what makes the battery run warm thereby limiting the longevity of the battery's life. By having the wider range of voltage you waste less power and that results in less heat, which for you means longer battery life a year from now.
When I tried this with the Note 5, I didn't notice a significant increase in charging time but I did notice less warmth on the back of the phone. Does that prove it's working? I'm not sure but if the option exists, I'd rather try to extend my battery life if possible.
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Ramxx said:
Unfortunately, none of these products ship to Canada through Amazon.
Here is the link for eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fastest-Qua...613106?hash=item2ca5773172:g:1l0AAOSwfZ1WZSmh
I am not sure if it authentic, however i am waiting to get mine!
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You can search them on amazon ca:http://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=quick+charge+3.0
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You can search them on amazon ca:http://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=quick+charge+3.0
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I actually have checked ship to Canada with no luck.
I trust eBay just as much as Amazon
Liking the new Choetech charger. Can't wait to get my hands on a device that can support 3.0 charging. Here is my review https://youtu.be/jgTD67aFvJo
The most advanced USB charger in the world. Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0. Charges compatible devices up to 80%
Do we actually know the GS7 supports QC3?
km8j said:
Do we actually know the GS7 supports QC3?
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According to Gottabemobile, S7 supports QC 3.0 http://www.gottabemobile.com/2016/02/21/samsung-galaxy-s7-release-date-specs-and-features/
does samsung soc have qc3? Or only snap 820?
This manual says only Quick Charge 2.0?
http://phandroid.com/2016/02/22/samsung-galaxy-s7-user-manual/
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This manual says only Quick Charge 2.0?
http://phandroid.com/2016/02/22/samsung-galaxy-s7-user-manual/
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Yes, although S7 uses the Snapdragon 820 processor(Most other regions use Samsung Exynos 8 Octa), sadly only features Quick Charge 2.0(please check Qualcomm news:https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapd...-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-powered-snapdragon-820
So I deleted all the quick charge 3.0 product links.
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Essential Phone can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
They claim that a 5 mins charge gets you 5 hours of battery. 1 hour and 30 minutes for a complete charge.
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Apperently its like 30 something Watts. Unbox Therapy found this on the charger.
27W to be exact. And on another video review, it showed 5v @ 3A and 9v @ 3A on the charger. So this thing should charge pretty quick and I assume is just using the native USB-C Fast Charge capability which is just fine.
I got confirmation from support that it is using USB-C PD for charging. No QuickCharge.
So this is all false then...
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/essential-phone-fast-charging/
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So this is all false then...
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/essential-phone-fast-charging/
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Yup, that would be a lie. Just because you have a 835, they would have to still implement QC themselves in order to leverage it.
And I believe Qualcomm loves to charge a pretty penny to flip that bit on for your device.
The device may still charge pretty quickly, but we will need some reports from those who have it in hand.
Anyone with it already have AccuBattery installed and see what the charging speed is plugged into its charger?
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I got confirmation from support that it is using USB-C PD for charging. No QuickCharge.
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From a review I watched, they said that the charger is capable of Charing 5 hours of usage time in 5 minutes.
I tried my s8 charger on it, the charger quickly heated up and stopped charging the device
When using the S8 charger, it show slow charging... Sucks
Soooo... What's wrong with using the included charger?
And Samsung uses some other form of Fast Charging that's proprietary to their own devices. It isn't Qualcomm quick charge at least at the generic level. Essential just uses the USB-C 3A fast charge ability which you will have to get separate from both Samsung or QC2/3.0 stuff which is a bit of a pain, but really not surprising. Same as the Nexus/Pixel devices.
It shows Charging Slowly with my Anker PowerPort 10 charger for some reason - even though it is 60W capable and nothing else was plugged into it. I'm really hoping I don't actually have to use the bundled charger just to get it to charge quickly. That would actually be really annoying. I rarely use included chargers since I have Anker PowerPorts everywhere that I need to charge.
I plugged in an Ailey quick charge charger. It first said charging slowly then changed to charging rapidly.
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It shows Charging Slowly with my Anker PowerPort 10 charger for some reason - even though it is 60W capable and nothing else was plugged into it. I'm really hoping I don't actually have to use the bundled charger just to get it to charge quickly. That would actually be really annoying. I rarely use included chargers since I have Anker PowerPorts everywhere that I need to charge.
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That's because it will never fast charge a USB-C Fast Charge device. You need something like this since this device does not have Qualcomm quick charge.
That 60W charger doesn't really support any modern Quick Charge, it just supports the max 2.4A charging for things like Tablets and whatnot.
For those using Quick Charge to the PH-1, it is only compatible with QC 4.0 and not QC 3.0 or below. QC 4.0 is compatible with Power Delivery (PD) that PH-1 uses.
27W USB Charger
Just got mine today... It says 27W...
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Apperently its like 30 something Watts. Unbox Therapy found this on the charger.
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Just got mine today... It says 27W...
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Yeah.. that should be average.
IM0001 said:
That's because it will never fast charge a USB-C Fast Charge device. You need something like this since this device does not have Qualcomm quick charge.
That 60W charger doesn't really support any modern Quick Charge, it just supports the max 2.4A charging for things like Tablets and whatnot.
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Quick charge or no quick charge, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to charge faster than 3% overnight. It still said charging slowly when I got up this morning and said 5 days until full. It had actually only gone up 3% in the past 9 hours.
My battery is at 96% so it may not be the most accurate test, and it was over 1000mah on initial plug in and then slowly went down to what's on the screen shot after about a minute.
I now have a couple Qualcomm 3.0 fast chargers, the fast charger from my LG G5, and the One plus fast charger. Only the One plus charger indicates that the 6T is quick charging. My question is if the other fast chargers are still faster to charge this phone than a standard charger.
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I now have a couple Qualcomm 3.0 fast chargers, the fast charger from my LG G5, and the One plus fast charger. Only the One plus charger indicates that the 6T is quick charging. My question is if the other fast chargers are still faster to charge this phone than a standard charger.
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No, you need to use DASH Charger to have fast charging
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No, you need to use DASH Charger to have fast charging
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This link explains it well: https://m.androidcentral.com/dash-charge
They will charge faster than an old .5 amp you may have kicking around in a drawer. Realistically they will charge fast enough because how often do you need every drop you can get as quickly as possible? On the occasions you do need that you just take it to the dash charger and all is good. It's not just me saying that, there was a thread on a previous OnePlus device where someone else said what I just did and the agreement was unanimous. I couldn't argue it myself, I had found just the same to be true; I was typically in no hurry to charge the device and when I was I just made a point of going to the dash charger. I'm not sure what your use case is but if it was to go all dash all the time you may want to consider waiting a little and seeing how it plays out in use. I think you'll find your ok with just the one that came in the box or getting a second for the office or cart and calling it a day.
Someone not only do you need the charger you need the cable to? That wasn't explained in the article. Can you clarify?
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This link explains it well: https://m.androidcentral.com/dash-charge
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Someone not only do you need the charger you need the cable to? That wasn't explained in the article. Can you clarify?
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You will need both the official OnePlus cable and wall wort to get the full charging speed.
Are the chargers and cables for the Oneplus 5 and 6 the same as the 6T?
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Are the chargers and cables for the Oneplus 5 and 6 the same as the 6T?
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Yep, they’ve been using the same charger since the 3.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/accessories/ordinary-usb-cables-support-dash-t3838411
This post describes how the OPPO charger works with some Amazon cables to give the full 4A charge on a OP6. I've ordered the cables linked in the first post and an OPPO VOOC charger to try out, and keep for a spare / work setup for my 6T once it gets here today.
Where does it say if it's Dash Charging on the phone? With my Note 9 I can see if it's quick charging or not, depending on charger.
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Where does it say if it's Dash Charging on the phone? With my Note 9 I can see if it's quick charging or not, depending on charger.
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You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
KOLIOSIS said:
You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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Oh, true. I forgot about the EU legal stuff.
KOLIOSIS said:
You're probably not going to see the term "Dash Charge" anywhere,since OnePlus stopped using the phrase.
Whether they replaced it w/something else to indicate fast charging is anyone's guess (if there was any indication of Dash (fast) charging on previous OnePlus devices).
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You will see a lightning bolt in place for the battery icon when Dash Charging is active, and if you plug in the Dash charger while on the lock screen, it will also make a short blip noise with an animated lightning bolt. Standard chargers and/or cables will show the lightning bolt inside the battery icon. You can always look at the charger current using the *#808# menu though.
Wait does the cable really matters? from the article linked, looks like the tech is only in the adapter
It matters because if you don't use one designed for it you wont get Dash charging, and yeah, its irritating that we have drawers full of cables that we cant use. As to the question of how you can tell, it says "Rapidly charging" on the lock screen. You'll also notice the phone gets charged stupidly fast, that's a big tell.
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Wait does the cable really matters? from the article linked, looks like the tech is only in the adapter
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Yes it does. Pushing 4 amps to get more watts requires low resistance cables, otherwise the resistance will limit maximum wattage. With QuickCharge (instead of DASH charge) voltage is raised instead of current, mitigating the resistance problem.
For QuickCharge there also a handshake telling both the phone and charger that both devices support a certain charging standard. Only then current (or voltage) is raised above normal USB levels. Otherwise you would risk destroying devices which are not capable of fast charging.
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Yes it does. Pushing 4 amps to get more watts requires low resistance cables, otherwise the resistance will limit maximum wattage. With QuickCharge (instead of DASH charge) voltage is raised instead of current, mitigating the resistance problem.
For QuickCharge there also a handshake telling both the phone and charger that both devices support a certain charging standard. Only then current (or voltage) is raised above normal USB levels. Otherwise you would risk destroying devices which are not capable of fast charging.
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Tragic...I invested a lot into my PD chargers for my 2xl guess I need to update everything again
But do you? How often do you NEED dash charge? You can still use all the other charges, they just won't charge as fast, but that's not a bad thing if you are not in a hurry.
The Dash charger works the fastest, however my Quick Charge 3.0 car and wall chargers are still delivering 2 to 3 times more m to my OneTouch 6T then my Galaxy 8 (Rated for Quick Charge 2.0) ever took, that is using higher end usb-c cables but not the Dash cables.
The Highest I ever saw my s8 take was 1300 mA, this 6T will take 2300 mA from my QC 3.0 car charger and 3200 mA from my QC 3.0 wall charger, as long as the battery is under 70%. However, the Dash charger with Dash cable gets around 4800 mA but it seems to fill the battery at a more rapid pace then what I would expect for that amount of power going into it.
The Dash cables have more pins in them to deliver segmented power, at the proper voltage and amperage, to partitioned batteries simultaneously in the 6T without it causing your phone to heat up.