[Q] Sunlight readability? - Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi! I'll be using an android tablet as an instrument display in my truck, so I'm concerned about readability in sunlight. How is this tablet compared to other Android tablets? Has anyone compared it directly to the Samsung Tab S 10.5? I've read in some reviews that max brightness can only be achieved in "auto brightness", they claim manual adjustment limits brightness. Any experience with that? Also, do third party auto brightness apps manage to activate full brightness?
Thanks!

Nakel said:
I'm concerned about readability in sunlight.
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I used it already in full sunlight. It's great! Its really useable. The glossy surface is a disadvantage but it's not a problem. I'm planning to add a anti-glare screen protector but it's not a must have if you want to use it outside.
My Tablet Z was already useable outdoors but the Z4 is way better.
I cannot see any difference in max brightness between auto and manual brightness setting (28.0.A.6.8). Fortunately it's going up to max level even on auto brightness. Sadly not every manufacturer is able to "implement" this...

Thanks!
I'm hoping to hear a sunlight comparison between this and the Samsung Tab S 10.5 too!

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not as bright as Nexus S?

I was just standing outiside and noticed that I couldn't read the screen of my new Galaxy S2 which I never noticed on my Nexus S. So I compared the two in direct sunlight.
Isn't the sAMOLED+ supposed to be brighter than the original sAMOLED screen?
Is my screen less bright than other sAMOLED+ screens?
My Galaxy S 2 is definatly brighter in sunlight than my Nexus S.
although i have turned off my auto brightness and whacked it right up on both..
At brightness zero the nexus s is brighter than the galaxy s 2.
I noticed that in bright sunlight, I can't see the screen at all on my SGSG2 with it set to zero, which causes a bit of a problem upping the brightness! On the Nexus, I could see well enough to change it.
I think at full brightness though, the SGS2 is brighter. My retinas haven't recovered from accidentally setting 100% whilst reading at night.
I've been wondering whether there is a way to boost the brightness, I was going to make a topic about it.
Some reviews I've seen say they had to turn the screen down to lowest brightness as the screen is so bright, etc. however my screen is nothing special in terms of brightness really and I have it on full, with auto adjust off colours are good though.
jodeltje said:
I was just standing outiside and noticed that I couldn't read the screen of my new Galaxy S2 which I never noticed on my Nexus S. So I compared the two in direct sunlight.
Isn't the sAMOLED+ supposed to be brighter than the original sAMOLED screen?
Is my screen less bright than other sAMOLED+ screens?
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Yes, disable auto brightness maybe
jonny_ftm said:
Yes, disable auto brightness maybe
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yes, I did that. the pictures are taken with both screens on 100%
I guess my screen is just not as bright as others :/
Also, under Settings -> Display, make sure that "Auto Adjust Screen power" is disabled... this option tries to save some battery by lowering the brightness when the image displayed is brighter : It can be useful in movies but it's just useless and annoying when you're browsing or reading.
PS : And SuperAMOLED+ is not supposed to be brighter than sAMOLED, it's the same without the pentile matrix. When samsung announced an improvement in battery life and brightness they were still comparing it to LCD screens from a few years ago.
thanks bluescreenjunkie, that setting actually helped (a bit).
and yes, your probably right about samsungs claims as well, I probably subconsciously interpreted samsungs claims the best way possible ... (so I had a reason to go buy it).
thanks for your input.
well it is possible to increase the brightness but it takes some development, like supercurrio did for the 2.3.3 kernel for the nexus s and cm7 sgs1 kernel with the voodoo app.
Dont know if hes gonna do the same for the sgs2, i really like it on my sgs1 for sure.
he increased the brightness? well that explaines it then (as it's running a voodoo kernel) .

Outdoor visibility (max brightness)

Rate this thread to express how well you can see the LG G6's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
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Would've loved an amoled screen.
Well that's sure to help anyone considering getting the G6.
Are you sure it's not Amoled? Did you research reviews and specs before you were forced to get your G6?
Please don't reply.
Well i have used the phone in direct sunlight and cant really say anything bad about it is readable so tha i can take calls, read texts but i wouldn't go out and start watching a video since when i say direct sunlight its like 90+°F lol but if i sit in a sunlight area with a bit of wind then yes phone is plenty bright enought for me to watch content on and enjoy it
For me it deserves 4 stars. LG G6 is more than sufficiently visible under direct sunlight.
It's pretty amazing to me that nobody other than Samsung has figured out oled for mobile screens. You know lg has been working on it for years, but for some reason they just can't mass produce it. Samsung has it mastered.
Actually LG isn't really starting to dabble in small OLED until next year.
As far as screen quality goes I saw a review stating measured 557 nits, as bright as the iPhone 7. Color accuracy was better than the iPhone and S7. Gamut was a little disappointing with 136% sRGB vs 197% for the S7. All in all a great display, probably the best LCD ever put in a phone.
resinis said:
It's pretty amazing to me that nobody other than Samsung has figured out oled for mobile screens. You know lg has been working on it for years, but for some reason they just can't mass produce it. Samsung has it mastered.
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Mastered? Lol... Reddit is full of people complaining about burned in screens on their S8 after just a few days.
hecksagon said:
As far as screen quality goes I saw a review stating measured 557 nits, as bright as the iPhone 7. Color accuracy was better than the iPhone and S7. Gamut was a little disappointing with 136% sRGB vs 197% for the S7. All in all a great display, probably the best LCD ever put in a phone.
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ComputerBase (Germany) even measured 624nits:
computerbase.de/2017-04/lg-g6-test/#abschnitt_sehr_hell_und_hoher_kontrast
(Can't post links directly, sorry)
Definitely bright enough.
CryztalBT said:
Mastered? Lol... Reddit is full of people complaining about burned in screens on their S8 after just a few days.
Definitely bright enough.
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i didnt know that... i guess i meant they are far, far ahead of anyone else in mobile oled displays
im very impressed with the lg g5's display. super bright, very rich in color. and crazy sharp.
It's summer season where I'm at and yesterday I was at the beach. Visibility is low in outdoor bright light.
Probably a weird question, but how is this phone when using with polarised sunglasses?
My Z2 turns to black in some angles in portrait mode and completely black in horizontal.
Cheers
I will have pretty good comparison. HTC 10 was having highest ppi and regarded as the best lCD display. However outdoor visibility was extremely bad. I am not sure but I think it is a characteristics of LCD display . One thing I notice that even for camera HTC 10 was relying on display. Whenever I was opening camera app the screen was automatically turning 100% bright and then comeback to normal after closing the app. It happen with third party camera app as well. I will report once I get G6.
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my experience: under sunlight (outdoor) in automatic brightness it is very difficult to see..... the always on display is completely invisible!!!!
wrong buy for me this g6
myabc said:
my experience: under sunlight (outdoor) in automatic brightness it is very difficult to see..... the always on display is completely invisible!!!!
wrong buy for me this g6
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Don't use auto brightness. Auto brightness is buggy in most devices. Try to do it manually.
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admartianAndroid said:
Probably a weird question, but how is this phone when using with polarised sunglasses?
My Z2 turns to black in some angles in portrait mode and completely black in horizontal.
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You can see the display in all angles. Slightly worse with rainbow-effect in some angles, but still visible.
Anyone know how it compares with the LG V20 display?
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If the sun shines directly on the screen on max brightness I can see absolutly nothing
Honest9 said:
Don't use auto brightness. Auto brightness is buggy in most devices. Try to do it manually.
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Yes it may be buggy however according to http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-g6-review-752130/
the LG G6 display actually gets brighter than 100% when it is set to AUTO.
"Putting it through our testing, we found the display to have a max manual brightness of 556 nits, which is boosted to a very respectable 663 nits when auto brightness is engaged under direct light. In sunlight, this is likely to be even higher"
I have no way to test this myself. The display is just barely usable in direct sunlight. Better than my G3 though. I wish it was better in this regard since I use this as my motorcycle GPS sometimes.
asdfffas said:
If the sun shines directly on the screen on max brightness I can see absolutly nothing
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Sorry for you but in the same condiction i see all very well and compared to my previous device (Samsung Galaxy s4, Redmi Note 2 and Lg G3) i think LG G6 is better of all of them, on automatic brightness too...
ILGreat said:
Sorry for you but in the same condiction i see all very well and compared to my previous device (Samsung Galaxy s4, Redmi Note 2 and Lg G3) i think LG G6 is better of all of them, on automatic brightness too...
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Do you use auto brightness and/or a screen protector? I guess some phones have brighter screens than others...

Outdoor visibility (max brightness)

Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Honor 8 Pro's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Outdoor visibility is only so-so. I can see, but I wish it can be even brighter.
It's sufficiently bright for outdoors on the max brightness.
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Display has very good colour reproduction and imo a very deep black for a lcd. Overall excellent screen, with wide viewing angles.
There's an option in developer options "Increase readability under sunlight"
People should check it out.
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K.khiladi said:
There's an option in developer options "Increase readability under sunlight"
People should check it out.
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This was checked automatically when I enabled Developer mode, maybe thats why I didnt find it that difficult to view screen while outside.
K.khiladi said:
There's an option in developer options "Increase readability under sunlight"
People should check it out.
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yes, enabled developer mode and it's checked after that. maybe it's just me... but under certain conditions, it does get difficult to read. that's like rare instances...
Worst
vijayinani said:
Worst
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It's not the best but it's not worst in anyway. I have seen worse than this.
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Yeah. Not worst. My comments came out of frustration. But, for a phone with 2K display and 30K price, this should have been better. I face lot of readability problems outdoors/under sunlight.
Since it's an IPS display you shouldn't expect the same outdoor visibility that you would get with AMOLED displays.
2K display shines here.
Performed Very good in outdoor contions.
Ok with the reading under sun.
for regular condition it works fine but under direct sunlight, it is difficult to read the screen.
it performs really good in outdoor.no problem
having no problem is using in direct sunlight.
100% visible outside.
You should try opening camera under sunlight to find actual readability. It worst than any other phone
It's kind of difficult in direct sunlight
I have only one problem with the Honor 8 Pro and it is it's display brightness. I do not expect OLED levels of brightness from the screen but a little more output would be helpful.
In direct sunlight it is almost impossible for me to see anything. Yes my outdoor visibility more is turned on. No doubt that under some circumstances it is possible to see clearly outdoors but sometimes, especially when keeping it side by side with another device it's simply disappointing.
Coming to the pros of the display, the 2k resolution and the IPS functionality gives this phone super accurate colors and wide viewing angles.

Outdoor visibility (max brightness)

Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Essential Phone's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The brightness is fine. It's not as good as the galaxy s8 but def better than HTC10 or honor 8\ p9. I watched basketball on it the other day and it was great.
light can be set to very dimmed but the color contrast is still vivd. Good!
I have the Pixel 2 and the Essential. I think the Essential gets brighter. Very satisfied on that front.
This phone is more bright then most people think because some people don't turn off the adaptive screen option when they want to maximize the brightness. It makes a huge different without that option.
NixxonExxo said:
This phone is more bright then most people think because some people don't turn off the adaptive screen option when they want to maximize the brightness. It makes a huge different without that option.
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True. Having this feature turned on by default should be punished to life in prison.
I mean you make the screen the highlight of the phone, and then nerf is by default??? WTF
It's ok, but not excellent.
I rate it approximately equal to most other devices in full sunlight outdoors. You will want to shade it with your body but, having done so, it's acceptable.

Root and display brightness

I was always curious about this. Is there a way to force the device, at will, to use the automatic high dynamic brightness?
I’m not complaining about the brightness of Samsung panels, but the one thing I never could get adjusted with is how whites with APL that’s over 80% look; they’re under 400 cm/nits of brightness on the maximum manual brightness settings. The iPhone X’s OLED display doesn’t have this issue, achieving over 620 cm/nits on max manual brightness.
With the automatic brightness boost from high ambient lighting, the high APL whites being displayed on the S9 match that figure over the iPhone X. Is there a root or at least a theoretical method to get that brightness setting at all, rather than under situational conditions?
megagodx said:
I was always curious about this. Is there a way to force the device, at will, to use the automatic high dynamic brightness?
I’m not complaining about the brightness of Samsung panels, but the one thing I never could get adjusted with is how whites with APL that’s over 80% look; they’re under 400 cm/nits of brightness on the maximum manual brightness settings. The iPhone X’s OLED display doesn’t have this issue, achieving over 620 cm/nits on max manual brightness.
With the automatic brightness boost from high ambient lighting, the high APL whites being displayed on the S9 match that figure over the iPhone X. Is there a root or at least a theoretical method to get that brightness setting at all, rather than under situational conditions?
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I don't know to be honest, but even the Galaxy S6 back then had that boost, so maybe you should search for a method for the s6 / s7 / s8 first to be sure it is possible.
Also, check out Lux:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux

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