Just a few questions before buying :) - Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey Guys
Thinking of upgrading to this tablet from my Samsung Galaxy Tab S due to the much higher performance when gaming.
Was just wondering if anyone has an ETA of Root access for this tablet? I use multiple root apps like Six Axis controller, folder mount, greenify and titanium backup.
Does the playstation 4 controller that you can connect to it work with all android games or does this only work when remotely playing playstation 4 games?
Last one.. Can every app be opened in 'small window mode' I have installed a root app on my tab s called MW Commander that enables me to use any app I want in a pop up window.
Any help would be most appreciated
Thanks
abillybob

There is root access, check one of the threads here in the Q&A sub-forum.
Controller should be usable for all games, but haven't tried since I don't game much.
Not every app can (by default) be opened as a smallapp. Only designated smallapps can. I don't know of the root app you're speaking of, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work.

The mw app is samsung touchwiz devices only. Might be a dev thats done a sony version somewhere on The playstore though

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abillybob said:
Hey Guys
Thinking of upgrading to this tablet from my Samsung Galaxy Tab S due to the much higher performance when gaming.
Was just wondering if anyone has an ETA of Root access for this tablet? I use multiple root apps like Six Axis controller, folder mount, greenify and titanium backup.
Does the playstation 4 controller that you can connect to it work with all android games or does this only work when remotely playing playstation 4 games?
Last one.. Can every app be opened in 'small window mode' I have installed a root app on my tab s called MW Commander that enables me to use any app I want in a pop up window.
Any help would be most appreciated
Thanks
abillybob
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1. Yes There is Root Access for it Just check the Dev Section
2. Play Station Controller is Only for Remotely play PS4
3. There is Just Small Apps & Widget that you can Open via Small App Manager. Like
- Compass HD+
- CameraW+
- Keep Note
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Thanks everybody for your help
The only thing I can find on root on here is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/z4-tablet/help/enybody-root-t3154926 though it doesn't seem to be a simple/easy process and I wouldn't feel comfortable doing what has been suggested. I was hoping for a flushable .zip of some sort and a custom recovery. None of which seem to be out yet which is a shame Have any of you guys successfully rooted? How did it go?
That's a shame about the PS4 controller. I'm guessing though with root if you use the app six axis controller from the plaster you'd be able to hook up a Playstation 3 controller to play standard games all ok?
Thanks for that, as far as I can see I can't find an app that would do the same as MW Manager (I can't seem to add any app to work with small apps) which is a shame but could be overlooked if the other two would work ok.

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Android development on the Play

This is just a placeholder post!
i'd like to see someone reverse engineer the playstation app that SE is using so we can dump our own classic PSone ISOs on there!
that'd be cool. because we all know we'll be waiting forever for SE to release all our PSone favs!
I would really like this too.
I'm excited because the Play has the same chip as the HTC Desire HD. Port will happen eventually i'm sure. Heck even the new adreno 205 driver will be awesome.
Keyboard
But without the physical keyboard gaming would be just boring.
that might be true for text based games, but I'n sure you can hook up a keyboard over bluetooth.
Now it would be really cool if we got a psp emulator. So we could play all those psp dumped games from the CFW ages.
First of all, root acces, dont you think=?
friscoltu959 said:
First of all, root acces, dont you think=?
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once we can oem unlock the bootloader it won't really be that hard at all. Basically just waiting in a holding patern to hear from sony ericson.
you normally have to hack the phone to get root access and then try to overwrite the boot loader so you can install custom roms with custom kernels and roms with root access for other stuff etc. We're just going to bypass that first step, and the manufacturer is giving us the ability to do step 2 fairly easy so custom roms with builtin root access should be relatively simple.
To enable this, we will later launch a web service where an unlock boot loader key can be retrieved by entering your IMEI. This key will be used in Fastboot where you perform the actual unlock boot loader sequence. A more detailed instruction will be provided later, when this service is available.
Depending on the original configuration of your phone, it will be either be possible or not possible to unlock the boot loader. No phone updates are required to enable this functionality.
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http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/devel...e-boot-loader-in-the-new-xperia™-smartphones/
If i am not totally wrong there is a Play-Station Emulator on the market, which also supports the Game-Pad on the Device, so it should not be a problem to play your old PSX games (the ISO's) on any device, even the Xperia Play. But i'd really like it, if there was a possibility to install a custom rom on it, and yes i know, that the bootloader is locked.
Yeah just put in PSX emulator and run the PS1 isos.
The psx emulator was pulled from the market.
malac0da13 said:
The psx emulator was pulled from the market.
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Try FPSE works much better then PSX4droid !
installed them both and love FPSE more then PSX4droid
Regards
arcticmedia said:
Try FPSE works much better then PSX4droid !
installed them both and love FPSE more then PSX4droid
Regards
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Much better, more options, runs faster, more compatibility... Just better
The psx emu was taken down april 1st. Some say it was sony who had it taken down, and some say it didn't use the proper open source licenses...no one really knows what the reason was.
I have closed this thread as it was only a place holder and it has served its purpose.

Good apps for cm9

Can someone give me links to some cool games for my hp touchpad with cm9, like dead space, fruit ninja and other popular games, i would really appreciate it.
which one'sthe best?
It would be great if we can come up with the top 10 Widgets of the month,, first get the consensus as to which Widgets must be included and allow users to vote. And at the end of the month or so post the results. This would be a great idea.
Must have App and mods
ROM Toolbox is one of my favorites because of the easy customization. I use the free version that can be found here https://market.android.com/details?...wyLDEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkubGliZXJ0eS50b29sYm94Il0.
With this app, you can change you theme, moboot, boot animation, dpi and overclock your CPU. I set mine to 1512 and its fast and snappy.
Great APP!
One more that at this point is a thread, but the OP is developing an APP. This link connects you to MindSplits thread for moboot and boot animation Modding. He has some awesome work and its easy to install. Here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1464159
Cheers.
travisross69 said:
ROM Toolbox is one of my favorites because of the easy customization. I use the free version that can be found here https://market.android.com/details?...wyLDEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkubGliZXJ0eS50b29sYm94Il0.
With this app, you can change you theme, moboot, boot animation, dpi and overclock your CPU. I set mine to 1512 and its fast and snappy.
Great APP!
One more that at this point is a thread, but the OP is developing an APP. This link connects you to MindSplits thread for moboot and boot animation Modding. He has some awesome work and its easy to install. Here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1464159
Cheers.
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I definitely agree! I've had Rom Toolbox for over a year now and it's without a doubt the best $5 bucks I've spent on the Market. The built in App Manager alone is worth it because you can back up your apps AND data, so when you restore an app all of your settings for it will be restored also. Plus it lets you do a batch restore of apps and data so when you flash a new rom you can restore everything to the way you had it in just a couple of clicks. It also lets you do advanced functions like break market links and freeze apps. It's the best app to have if you have a rooted device in my opinion! I'm glad someone else appreciates it like I do! Also to the op it's against the rules to post links to warez, but if you're looking for some suggestions I could name a few. Modern Combat 3 is incredible on the Touchpad especially with a ps3 controller and the same goes with GTA III and Shadowgun. If you want use a ps3 controller with your emulators or games, get the app called Sixaxis Controller. It's another must have app in my opinion! You can use your ps3 controller on almost all of the emulators for Android, and you can set up touch profiles for games that have touch screen controls. On top of that you can use the ps3 controller to navigate the touchpad, for example I have L1 and R1 set as volume up and volume down and I have L2 and R2 set as next track and previous track. You can find them all on the Market and they definitely worth the coin and then some

[Q] App not availiable on tablet

Am I missing something here? App is not compatible with some of your devices.
Htc Evo- check
Transformer Tablet- no check
I need to understand the developer side of this coin. I have been trying to persuade Jawbone to update their android app "Jawbone Companion" to support my tablet. I don't know, but I assume their would be a publisher option in Google Play to add or delete supported devices so that they cannot be installed on those from the Play store. For example, I had to go to the website to find the app because search shows no results on the tablet.
It's a bluetooth headset. It supports 2.1+edr. App supported on Android OS 4.0, OS 2.3 and select OS 2.2 phones. Transformer tf300 has bluetooth. It supports 3.0+edr. It has ICS and is certainly more capable than a 2.2 phone.
Sooo the only difference I see from this side is a bigger screen. I have emailed at least 3 app makers that I use frequently and they just keep saying it's not tablet supported. So do they just have to add devices to some file that cross checks with Google Play or is the code for my tablet so drastically different that they would have to write a whole new app for tablets?
A technical explanation link of the whole developer process regarding this would be nice.
Update to OP
I have found a method of downloading apk files in the Chrome browser with the APK Downloader extension. It only works with Chrome and I logged into my wife's account, did a quick search for my apps in question, then proceeded to download them to pc by making play think it was sending the apk to my wife's "supported" phone. Then I manually transferred the apks to my "unsupported" tablet where they are now running fine, no errors and no resolution problems.
I have emailed the developers of these apps and they have blown me off by saying that tablets in general are not supported, I emailed them all back telling them their apps were working fine and I didn't understand why they couldn't have allowed me to just download it the easy way.
So are they just being lazy? This just reinforces my reasoning that the phone and tablet are about the same and don't require any more coding than any other app that has problems on certain phones. Seems to me as long as the resolution is high enough and it allows auto rotation that any phone app should run on a tablet, and I don't see why they all keep telling me apps are not supported.
Until then I guess I'll just get my apps the way I described.
yap the apkdownloader would be the way i recomended to you =)
dunno why they dont support tablets
in some cases u dont have to understand them
feel lucky u find a way to make it work

LeanBack module-A xposed module

xposed module to modify user apps for leanback support such as emulators or sideloaded **free** games that never show up on Android TV such as NSTV.
The idea behind this to make it work is really simple....somehow the module will:
1. Load ALL user apps that don't have leanback support
2. Modify either permanently/load the app's manifest to add leanback LAUNCHER & other lines to it.
3. On restart Theoretically it should work with almost all apps being modified for Android TV.
Side note:
Any app/game that only has touch support will NOT work at all since those apps probably don't have either controller, keyboard, & mouse support at all and it will be just redundant to mod them...
(Tried playing cod zombies on NSTV...I tried all key mapping apps and nothing worked.)
THIS MODULE WILL PROBABLY REPLACE THAT **SIDELOAD LAUNCHER**
From the way I wrote this you should have already guessed that the module has NOT been made yet, since more research is needed to be done in order to progress any further than an idea, but I'm posting it now for anyone that's wants to tackle this project or help me make it(new to xposed module developing.)
Xstar410 said:
xposed module to modify user apps for leanback support such as emulators or sideloaded **free** games that never show up on Android TV such as NSTV.
The idea behind this to make it work is really simple....somehow the module will:
1. Load ALL user apps that don't have leanback support
2. Modify either permanently/load the app's manifest to add leanback LAUNCHER & other lines to it.
3. On restart Theoretically it should work with almost all apps being modified for Android TV.
Side note:
Any app/game that only has touch support will NOT work at all since those apps probably don't have either controller, keyboard, & mouse support at all and it will be just redundant to mod them...
(Tried playing cod zombies on NSTV...I tried all key mapping apps and nothing worked.)
THIS MODULE WILL PROBABLY REPLACE THAT **SIDELOAD LAUNCHER**
From the way I wrote this you should have already guessed that the module has NOT been made yet, since more research is needed to be done in order to progress any further than an idea, but I'm posting it now for anyone that's wants to tackle this project or help me make it(new to xposed module developing.)
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No need for an xposed module. just a new launcher, there's a few out already, not great though
for the mapping, I don't think it's possible to do that, xposed or not due to different mappings per game, the shield TV community is tiny, without many developers onboard.. will be a tough to get anyone with knowledge to write anything at this stage.
xd4d3v said:
No need for an xposed module. just a new launcher, there's a few out already, not great though
for the mapping, I don't think it's possible to do that, xposed or not due to different mappings per game, the shield TV community is tiny, without many developers onboard.. will be a tough to get anyone with knowledge to write anything at this stage.
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I been using es file explorer, but I want native support though for my games/emulators
Xstar410 said:
I been using es file explorer, but I want native support though for my games/emulators
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ES file explorer to start sideloaded apps?
try sideload launcher, or HAL launcher for a full launcher replacement.
xd4d3v said:
ES file explorer to start sideloaded apps?
try sideload launcher, or HAL launcher for a full launcher replacement.
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nah, Im saying I been using it for everything & its great, but I would like to see my non-native tv apps on the leanback lists for games...I hate to modify them manually since it is a bit annoying
Why don't you guys just use Kodi as your launcher?
I've looked into the same issue, mainly because of the norwegian TV app GetTV that is ment for customers to watch TV on any device in and out of the house and with NSTV i would have 1080p native from the IPstream instead of the 1080i the cableboxes they deliver can handle.
To make apps work that way, they need a layout compateble with DPad navigation, so changing the manifest wouldn't help much i think, and if you create an app to launch with an overlay for the app you would need to run an emulated new version of android and in that instance launch the app and have cursor/leanback support for non-native apps, that would drain the power and create even more issues, best way to do this would be for Nvidia to add a cursor mapping profile for the gamepad controller og tv remote (ex. "trippleclick search to start 'mousemode'." and then use the directional keys to move the cursor around)
Zacharybinx34 said:
Why don't you guys just use Kodi as your launcher?
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Speaking personally, because that would make this flagship device very limited in terms of what you can do outside of Kodi. Who would buy a device as powerful as the Shield TV then use it simply for watching video in Kodi?
Leanback is terrible. I use Smart Launcher Pro myself, lots of options, support for remotes and automatic categorisation of applications and games.
Beefheart said:
Speaking personally, because that would make this flagship device very limited in terms of what you can do outside of Kodi. Who would buy a device as powerful as the Shield TV then use it simply for watching video in Kodi?
Leanback is terrible. I use Smart Launcher Pro myself, lots of options, support for remotes and automatic categorisation of applications and games.
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You can create links to android apps within Kodi.
Zacharybinx34 said:
You can create links to android apps within Kodi.
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Yes, I'm aware of that. But the whole process is limited and the interface less than ideal for a device of this type, or at least if used to its potential. If we were talking about a system of limited specification that was used for little else other than video playback and a few additional apps (for example, an Amazon Fire Stick) then it would perhaps make sense. But I have 60+ applications and games installed on my Shield TV. And the idea of having to access them from within Kodi, an application which was not designed with this in mind, is unappealing to say the least.
This is funny. I enjoy how the discussion is on modifying Leanback Launcher, but all the suggestions are "Don't use Leanback Launcher".
I for one actually like Leanback and the way it works on my TV with a remote. Like it was designed for it.
In terms of the discussion at hand - this isn't that hard to implement. You don't have to hook *every* package - you just need to hook the bit of Leanback Launcher that enumerates the packages and then modify that code to always return "yes" when asking if it has the Manifest permissions for Leanback.
As I find this quite intriguing and know a bit about Xposed - I think I'll take a look at this today if time allows. I happen to have both the nexus player and shield TV system images lying around (access to both versions of Leanback), so I may just be making this.
I'll post back here if anything comes of it.
Also, I wonder if I can force the "Live Channels" app to display at the top of Leanback's home interface, like it does on my parents' Samsung w. Android TV.
While we're modifying leanback...Should we put the "non-leanback" apps in their own row, or in the same row as all the other apps?
digitalhigh said:
This is funny. I enjoy how the discussion is on modifying Leanback Launcher, but all the suggestions are "Don't use Leanback Launcher".
I for one actually like Leanback and the way it works on my TV with a remote. Like it was designed for it.
In terms of the discussion at hand - this isn't that hard to implement. You don't have to hook *every* package - you just need to hook the bit of Leanback Launcher that enumerates the packages and then modify that code to always return "yes" when asking if it has the Manifest permissions for Leanback.
As I find this quite intriguing and know a bit about Xposed - I think I'll take a look at this today if time allows. I happen to have both the nexus player and shield TV system images lying around (access to both versions of Leanback), so I may just be making this.
I'll post back here if anything comes of it.
Also, I wonder if I can force the "Live Channels" app to display at the top of Leanback's home interface, like it does on my parents' Samsung w. Android TV.
While we're modifying leanback...Should we put the "non-leanback" apps in their own row, or in the same row as all the other apps?
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Its own row would be great actually.. Otherwise I feel that things could become a little bit too messy. Or you could simply let the user select that via the module's option[emoji14]
Xstar410 said:
xposed module to modify user apps for leanback support such as emulators or sideloaded **free** games that never show up on Android TV such as NSTV.
The idea behind this to make it work is really simple....somehow the module will:
1. Load ALL user apps that don't have leanback support
2. Modify either permanently/load the app's manifest to add leanback LAUNCHER & other lines to it.
3. On restart Theoretically it should work with almost all apps being modified for Android TV.
Side note:
Any app/game that only has touch support will NOT work at all since those apps probably don't have either controller, keyboard, & mouse support at all and it will be just redundant to mod them...
(Tried playing cod zombies on NSTV...I tried all key mapping apps and nothing worked.)
THIS MODULE WILL PROBABLY REPLACE THAT **SIDELOAD LAUNCHER**
From the way I wrote this you should have already guessed that the module has NOT been made yet, since more research is needed to be done in order to progress any further than an idea, but I'm posting it now for anyone that's wants to tackle this project or help me make it(new to xposed module developing.)
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can't wait for this I hate HAL, costomizing the stock launcher is the way, best of both worlds: original features AND customizations:good:
A little update:
I did some initial research into this, and found the method we need to hook in order to make this happen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/development/hooking-protected-list-inner-class-odd-t3306186
I haven't had more time to dive into this further, but I do have the initial framework started for a module. No idea when I will be able to tackle it more, but at least we have an idea of what needs to be done for anybody else who may be interested in this and know Xposed.
i do like the stock launcher,but needs more cosmetic,but i did found that the apk call OmniSwicth is wonderfull,the only thing is not fully working if somebody make work that would be remarkable,i do like the interface and using my fire tablet 7 inches with a combination the droidmote apk is the best so far for my shield tv if someone try this would know what i am talking, i am not a developer but i will be happy is somebody from XDA make this app OmniSwicth works
Anyone remember GEL Xposed before it became GNL? Thats what we need for this. I actually like the way leanback works, I just want it to load all of my apps.
Yea that's the thing that kills me about AndroidTV, its so crippled in terms of apps. I love the interface but the lack of apps sucks, it would be amazing if someone could figure out a hack that would allow the play store to show all apps.
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digitalhigh said:
This is funny. I enjoy how the discussion is on modifying Leanback Launcher, but all the suggestions are "Don't use Leanback Launcher".
I for one actually like Leanback and the way it works on my TV with a remote. Like it was designed for it.
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ME TO, if it weren't for the crap play store and the lacking all the installed apps.
I installed this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/development/rom-t3321787 last night and I already miss the Leanback Launcher and how it "just worked" with the remote, the stock interface (and Nova for that matter) just don't navigate well with the remote.
honestly my dream setup would be the factory OS with the Leanback Launcher, but rooted with the FULL play Store and all the installed apps shown in the Launcher.
daniel644 said:
ME TO, if it weren't for the crap play store and the lacking all the installed apps.
I installed this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/development/rom-t3321787 last night and I already miss the Leanback Launcher and how it "just worked" with the remote, the stock interface (and Nova for that matter) just don't navigate well with the remote.
honestly my dream setup would be the factory OS with the Leanback Launcher, but rooted with the FULL play Store and all the installed apps shown in the Launcher.
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I installed the leanback launcher and it works well on restyle
pspbyer said:
I installed the leanback launcher and it works well on restyle
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How did you manage this. I tried and it would not let me install leanback launcher

Can Someone Help me Get a Couple of Newer Apps Onto an Older Tablet?

So the goal here is to have a tablet in our home gym that I can cast music to a nearby receiver and to have a timer displayed. The device in question is an ancient Xelio tablet and I believe the model to be P900BK if that's of any use. It's currently running Android 4.0.4 and doesn't come stock with the Android Google Play App Store although it has Slide Me and I partially side loaded the Play Store but most of the newer apps I'm trying to install fail some form of validation that occurs in the background whenever I try to run them. I found an APK for Google Play Music that was compatible (I think) with Android 4.0.4 and casting wasn't an option then so it wasn't there.
In a perfect world I'd be able to install Google Play Music (Now has to be YouTube Music though I suppose) and this app here: Hero Timer - WOD Timer Crossfit and HIIT Since it's free and easy to see like the timers most gyms use. I could also use Flex Timer or something else but most all I would want to use for ease of viewing from a distance don't appear to be compatible. The Slide Me app store has nothing of any use that I can find.
I guess the easiest solution would be to find 2 apps in the Slide Me app store that stream music via Chromecast and one that's a good timer that allows for intervals and is large enough to see from a distance on a smaller tablet but as of now I can't seem to find anything that fits that bill. My guess is I won't either on the former due to Google locking that streaming feature down and the latter is mostly trash from what I can tell.
So, any thoughts on this? I'd rather not invest a boat load of time into rooting and potentially bricking this device if I can avoid it but if it's the only option I guess I don't mind. I'd just have to wait until I can carve out enough time to do this which may not be right away. If I do explore this option, one of my concerns is hardware. I'm not sure the ancient hardware this device sports can handle much in terms of ROMs or latest whiz-bang apps or features.
I'm not sure it even has the guts to do what I'm asking but I was hoping someone here who knew the answer could offer up some solutions as I've been out of the custom Android device game for a number of years now.
Thoughts?
This low-end tablet was released 2013-07-09. It runs on Android IceCream. You only can install and run apps on it what are compatible with this Android version.
jwoegerbauer said:
This low-end tablet was released 2013-07-09. It runs on Android IceCream. You only can install and run apps on it what are compatible with this Android version.
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Right after you finished typing that and you read it back to yourself did you think "Yeah, he'll find this useful" before you clicked submit?

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