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The aim of this thread is to list all common problems (common = happens for many people) with the LG G2, in order to provide an easy place to find solutions for these problems, once we'll have such solutions. This will also be a good place to warn people interested in buying this phone (don't get me wrong it's a great phone, but some of these problems might be deal breakers to some).
My hope is that with time, all of these problems will be addressed by LG or XDA developers, in order to make them a non-issue.
List is updated to October 8th, 2013.
Problems:
1. Camera (stills): poor quality at low light.
2. Camera (video): poor quality due to shaky focus (the video is stable due to OIS, but the focus is shaky). Moving objects appear blurry. Also blurry image at low light. (link).
3. External speakerphone - very low decibel levels (link).
4. A2DP Bluetooth - problems maintaining stable connection with many devices. Also poor sound quality when connected to many devices (link)
5. Random reboots - when trying to get out of the lock screen (link).
6. Device fluidity - excellent at first days/weeks, but then deteriorates considerably to the point the device becomes laggy (S4 like). It's possible this has been exaggerated, but for now I'm keeping this as a possible common problem.
7. Screen oversensitive to touch - makes it hard to type correctly on the keyboard or browse the internet (link)
8. Overheating issue - especially when gaming with CPU intensive games (but also with GPS navigation), after several minutes the device throttles down the CPU to cool down (many threads about this problem).
9. Knock-ON feature doesn't work reliably - sometimes needs many taps to wake from sleep.
10. Choppy youtube playback - especially HD content (link)
Solutions:
1. None.
2. None.
3. Possible solutions: (A) mod to increase sound level output (link), (B) use Viper4Android (3rd party app that allows to increase sound levels).
4. None.
5. None.
6. None.
7. None.
8. None.
9. None.
10. None.
(I will constantly update this thread).
I just got mine and noticed moving subjects would come out blurry, I changed the uniform auto to 800 and that seemed to fix it.
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Noam23 said:
The aim of this thread is to list all common problems (common = happens for many people) with the LG G2, in order to provide an easy place to find solutions for these problems, once we'll have such solutions. This will also be a good place to warn people interested in buying this phone (don't get me wrong it's a great phone, but some of these problems might be deal breakers to some).
My hope is that with time, all of these problems will be addressed by LG or XDA developers, in order to make them a non-issue.
List is updated to October 6th, 2013.
Problems:
1. Camera (stills): poor quality at low light.
2. Camera (video): poor quality due to shaky focus (the video is stable due to OIS, but the focus is shaky). Also blurry at low light. (link).
3. External speakerphone - very low decibel levels (link).
4. A2DP Bluetooth - problems maintaining stable connection with many devices. Also poor sound quality when connected to many devices (link)
5. Random reboots - when trying to get out of the lock screen (link).
6. Device fluidity - excellent at first days/weeks, but then deteriorates considerably to the point the device becomes laggy (S4 like).
Solutions:
1. None.
2. None.
3. Partial solution - mod to increase sound level output (link)
4. None.
5. None.
6. None.
(I will constantly update this thread).
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Pardon me for a lot of text. Please skip if reading isn't your thing.
Great idea for a thread, but I think common is perhaps a bit misleading. The commonality of the random reboot and device 'fluidity' are extremely anecdotal. In addition, the term poor, in certain cases, are possibly inaccurate as well. For example, low light situations are going to be difficult for any phone camera and the results may be mediocre by point and shoot camera standards or a dedicated enthusiast level camera, but likely about average for a smart phone camera. So to consider them poor would entail having an actual comparison with other smart phones in the same conditions.
I'm completely behind this thread and think it might deserve to be stickied if it can live up to it's potential, but just wanted to help the thread along by trying to keep things reasonably accurate and realistic.
Is there a thread for point 6, "Device fluidity - excellent at first days/weeks, but then deteriorates considerably to the point the device becomes laggy (S4 like)."?
My experiences with the G2 AT&T are:
1. Camera puts too much faith in it's OIS to get a sharp picture and so the shutter speed is too slow, and focus wanders too long, so images are blurry. If you are taking a picture of a pet or young child and you get them to be still for a second and take the picture, the preview image of when you actually pressed the shutter will be sharp but the actual picture taken is a second later and not the shot you wanted.
2. Video suffers from what appears to be a similar scenario of wandering focus, too slow shutter speeds, too low ISO.
3. Viper4Android and similar apps resolve the sound issue to my satisfaction and then some. I don't use my phone's speakers for anything critical beyond speakerphone and I've not had any issue with it, but Viper4Android solves the low volume as far as I'm concerned so I would consider that a solution. Indeed it involves a third-party app, so it's not a resolved problem. (On a side note, avoid Beats Audio, Beats by Dre etc., there are better alternatives. It pains me no end to see charlatans and mountebanks making out like bandits.)
4. A2DP is reasonable sound quality for my car but I've not had the chance to compare to other phones. A2DP is notorious for some sort of sound issue, so not sure the G2 is considerably worse than others. From reading the thread it appears most are using their car's BT solutions which are dialed in for Apple products since they are the standard and mature. The wide variety of ROMS used in the phones that people are comparing to their recently released G2 make for a difficult comparison. Some said in the thread they had no problems, some said it was better than previous phones, some said worse.
5. Never had a problem with a reboot ever. Very stable for me; using Cleanrom 1.0 then 1.1.
6. Lag hasn't been getting worse at all. There is your typical lag of when, for example, you scroll down your app drawer quickly with a couple of strong flicks and it has to load up those new icons quickly, but that's not unreasonable and not what I think most people are complaining about. During the first week or so of having the phone, my Swype keyboard while using Next browser was slow to input key entries but it hasn't been a problem since and it's very hard to know what was the exact issue.
1. Not resolved yet
2. Not resolved yet
3. Solution
4. Not necessarily a common problem to this phone in particular, many phones have AD2P issues.
5. Not necessarily a common problem.
6. Not necessarily a common problem.
More data points please!
Touch screen problems
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Problem #6 would be resolved with an update to android 4.3. That version has fs trim that frees up some inactive activities in RAM. It helped greatly with the gnex and nexus7 OG. It also has to do with the LG UI embedded in the phone.
FILLY86 said:
I have this problem described here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4QOMB8UTx4
Unfortunatly thats a deal breaker for me I hope LG finds a solution in near future. For now i will send it back!
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I don't have that problem, get it replaced
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FILLY86 said:
I have this problem described here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4QOMB8UTx4
Unfortunatly thats a deal breaker for me I hope LG finds a solution in near future. For now i will send it back!
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OP we have a problem number 7 to add!
Would it be possible for people to mention the carrier they are using so we can possibly isolate the particular model that might be having problems?
FILLY86 said:
I have this problem described here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4QOMB8UTx4
Unfortunatly thats a deal breaker for me I hope LG finds a solution in near future. For now i will send it back!
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I don't have this problem. AT&T Model
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xyltha said:
OP we have a problem number 7 to add!
Would it be possible for people to mention the carrier they are using so we can possibly isolate the particular model that might be having problems?
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I don't have that problem. AT&T.
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No offense but half the crap listed here is subjective. My device has never under any circumstance rebooted or slowed down. In fact, yesterday it got up to 117°F and the device never slowed down or dimmed the screen. I've had the device for 2 almost 3 weeks and the performance is exactly how it was out of the box...
Edit: Just watched that video and that doesn't happen on my T-Mobile version.
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+1 on listing carrier for each one. I am not advocating one carrier over another but I know Verizon tends to insist on lots of checking and device specs (bloat ware also) before they release a phone. So I am curious, especially about the touch screen issue. That said, Verizon also slows down android updates which sort of sucks.
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solution for problem number 1 is use the flash lol. Like all mobiles it has limited range
FILLY86 said:
I have this problem described here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4QOMB8UTx4
Unfortunatly thats a deal breaker for me I hope LG finds a solution in near future. For now i will send it back!
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I would like this thread to concentrate on common problems with the LG G2. Every problem I've written was mentioned by many people, not just one...
xyltha said:
Pardon me for a lot of text. Please skip if reading isn't your thing.
Great idea for a thread, but I think common is perhaps a bit misleading. The commonality of the random reboot and device 'fluidity' are extremely anecdotal. In addition, the term poor, in certain cases, are possibly inaccurate as well. For example, low light situations are going to be difficult for any phone camera and the results may be mediocre by point and shoot camera standards or a dedicated enthusiast level camera, but likely about average for a smart phone camera. So to consider them poor would entail having an actual comparison with other smart phones in the same conditions.
I'm completely behind this thread and think it might deserve to be stickied if it can live up to it's potential, but just wanted to help the thread along by trying to keep things reasonably accurate and realistic.
Is there a thread for point 6, "Device fluidity - excellent at first days/weeks, but then deteriorates considerably to the point the device becomes laggy (S4 like)."?
My experiences with the G2 AT&T are:
1. Camera puts too much faith in it's OIS to get a sharp picture and so the shutter speed is too slow, and focus wanders too long, so images are blurry. If you are taking a picture of a pet or young child and you get them to be still for a second and take the picture, the preview image of when you actually pressed the shutter will be sharp but the actual picture taken is a second later and not the shot you wanted.
2. Video suffers from what appears to be a similar scenario of wandering focus, too slow shutter speeds, too low ISO.
3. Viper4Android and similar apps resolve the sound issue to my satisfaction and then some. I don't use my phone's speakers for anything critical beyond speakerphone and I've not had any issue with it, but Viper4Android solves the low volume as far as I'm concerned so I would consider that a solution. Indeed it involves a third-party app, so it's not a resolved problem. (On a side note, avoid Beats Audio, Beats by Dre etc., there are better alternatives. It pains me no end to see charlatans and mountebanks making out like bandits.)
4. A2DP is reasonable sound quality for my car but I've not had the chance to compare to other phones. A2DP is notorious for some sort of sound issue, so not sure the G2 is considerably worse than others. From reading the thread it appears most are using their car's BT solutions which are dialed in for Apple products since they are the standard and mature. The wide variety of ROMS used in the phones that people are comparing to their recently released G2 make for a difficult comparison. Some said in the thread they had no problems, some said it was better than previous phones, some said worse.
5. Never had a problem with a reboot ever. Very stable for me; using Cleanrom 1.0 then 1.1.
6. Lag hasn't been getting worse at all. There is your typical lag of when, for example, you scroll down your app drawer quickly with a couple of strong flicks and it has to load up those new icons quickly, but that's not unreasonable and not what I think most people are complaining about. During the first week or so of having the phone, my Swype keyboard while using Next browser was slow to input key entries but it hasn't been a problem since and it's very hard to know what was the exact issue.
1. Not resolved yet
2. Not resolved yet
3. Solution
4. Not necessarily a common problem to this phone in particular, many phones have AD2P issues.
5. Not necessarily a common problem.
6. Not necessarily a common problem.
More data points please!
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Thank you for this reply.
3. I've added Viper as a possible solution.
4. I've read that thread again, out of 13 testimonials, 62% report problems (disconnections, lack of bass, overall poor quality, important functions not working, etc.), while only 38% reported it to be as good as previous device (or better). So I think that for now, A2DP is a legitimate common problem with the LG G2. I will keep a close eye on that thread.
6. There is no single thread that deals with the lag issue, rather many anecdotal stories within different threads...
Noam23 said:
I would like this thread to concentrate on common problems with the LG G2. Every problem I've written was mentioned by many people, not just one...
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Just to add, on VZW. No lag since release date. Never had a reboot. Stream BT audio through my car and its always clear and never dropped. Just like someone that goes to a great restaurant and thinks they had a bad meal...they tell everyone the restaurant isnt good, even though the majority of people were satisfied but never told everyone about it. Just dont like people reading these prior to buying and saying, ugh, this phone has all these problems!
friguy3 said:
Just to add, on VZW. No lag since release date. Never had a reboot. Stream BT audio through my car and its always clear and never dropped. Just like someone that goes to a great restaurant and thinks they had a bad meal...they tell everyone the restaurant isnt good, even though the majority of people were satisfied but never told everyone about it. Just dont like people reading these prior to buying and saying, ugh, this phone has all these problems!
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If those people are smart, they will read the equivalent thread of competitor devices too.
Noam23 said:
Thank you for this reply.
3. I've added Viper as a possible solution.
4. I've read that thread again, out of 13 testimonials, 62% report problems (disconnections, lack of bass, overall poor quality, important functions not working, etc.), while only 38% reported it to be as good as previous device (or better). So I think that for now, A2DP is a legitimate common problem with the LG G2. I will keep a close eye on that thread.
6. There is no single thread that deals with the lag issue, rather many anecdotal stories within different threads...
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Thank you for starting this thread and for your reassessments and improvements to the thread.
As a few have mentioned, those that have an issue skew the results within a thread. If a thread is started by someone with an issue, for example the drifting screen contact points, and there are no replies from anyone saying they don't have a problem then it's too early to make an assumption as to how big a problem it is for the whole community. How do we even know for sure the person with the screwy screen didn't drop the phone?
Anyway, you rightly didn't want to add that problem to the list of more common issues and I agree.
Any idea what the causes for the lag are turning out to be? I recall something about Verizons OTA update being coincidental or perhaps a Google update was it? I don't recall.
Keep up the good work.
xyltha said:
Any idea what the causes for the lag are turning out to be? I recall something about Verizons OTA update being coincidental or perhaps a Google update was it? I don't recall.
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I've seen "memory management" as one suggestion, but too early to tell for sure.
There are several issues with the camera. However the fact that panorama is lower resolution and quality (file size) than normal pictures seems like a bug. Also if you edit a photo the quality is reduced.
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Verizon - Stock Rooted.
The only issue I have that is on your list is the camera stuff. I turn off IA and that helps it take pictures faster. Making sure to touch the screen where I want it to focus helps sometimes. Last weekend, I was at an anniversary party at a restaurant at noon. I had the flash on auto and went off most of the time, and still only 1 in 3 pics were worth keeping. Most pictures were slightly out of focus or grainy even on posed shots.
Am I the only one with slow/weak GPS lock? My G2 is almost as bad as my GNex was. If it's cloudy or I'm in my house sometimes it won't lock at all. Last night I stood in my livingroom next to a window and it took over a minute to finally lock on to 5 of 11. I put the S4 right next to it and it locked in under 10 seconds on 17 of 22. I use the GPS Status app to watch it lock. I have installed Faster Fix but that didn't help it any. Since I haven't seen anyone else mention GPS, I might just have a bad unit.
Hi every one, I bought Umi Cross C1 cellphone from china shop and i have some problems, because there is installed Yun Os software, so I want to change it like in this video? Is it possible? Please help I dont want to use YunOs because I dont understand Chinese language and want to use googleplay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Ef_cK_oeg
I would like you to gimme detailed guide how to root this device and else or direct me where I may find it.
le grande magnetto said:
Hi every one, I bouesn't work asght Umi Cross C1 cellphone from china shop and i have some problems, because there is installed Yun Os software, so I want to change it like in this video? Is it possible? Please help I dont want to use YunOs because I dont understand Chinese language and want to use googleplay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Ef_cK_oeg
I would like you to gimme detailed guide how to root this device and else or direct me where I may find it.
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I want a rom that fixes the gps on the cross c1. It doesn't work on the one I was sent.
I have ordered the UMI Cross / C1 from iShoppstore and am expecting delivery just after Christmas. I am aware the problems people have had with the Chinese smartphones regarding the Wifi and GPS connectivity but I believe for the most part these are fixable and have been documented elsewhere. So it is with interest that I await to see what problems I will have with mine. I did see some newspaper article that UMI were going to start selling their smartphones in the UK.... http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/news/umi-smartphones-to-launch-in-the-uk-29610580.html Not sure if this article is to be taken seriously though.
It would be nice to get the KitKat upgrade for this model though I doubt this will happen any time soon. I am very curious if you have resolved the issues you had with the Cross. Can you let me know how its going for you and what problems you've had as I'm sure my phone will be the same.
Cheers
The GPS is really finicky. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. But, it never has worked throughout a complete trip of more than 10 minutes. I've had several other smartphones before this, some from China, and never had a GPS problem before. I guess it's just my time to experience what others warned me about. Still, I'm hopeful that a rom will be put out in the future that will resolve the GPS problem.
I'm finding the screen is not evenly lit but for me this is not a problem unless I look for it and most of the time you only notice it on a white screen. On Christmas day I spoke to my family using skype using the front facing camera over wifi and it worked flawlessly. Later on we did a test comparing the Sammy S3 and prev gen iPad front facing cameras and the C1 was definitely better. Tested bluetooth to link to home stereo briefly to play music on device, absolutely no problems. There is supposed to be a Yamaha sound chip but I can't make up my mind whether sound is better compared to my Note 1 when playing MP3s.
Call quality is better than my now broken Note 1 for sure and the 2G and 3G I really can't fault. Used the 3G quiet a bit on Christmas day as the house we were visiting did not have wifi and with the exception of some periods downloads were really pretty good. Haven't tested the GPS enough to pass a fair verdict. I did use it when I first got it and it jumped around a bit in Gmaps but I wonder if that was down to the fact I had put my 3G sim in the wrong slot so had no mobile broadband
Finding the phone is quiet slippery and the size adds to the problem so am eagerly awaiting a silicone cover for it. One thing I've noticed is when I turn the phone on the pattern unlock screen is a bit sluggish and I have to re-enter to unlock.
Anyone found any english manuals for this phone?
UMI CROSS
Using this phone since last week, build is just enough, nothing to impress neither to disgrace. I tested this phone for 2 days on stock rom, on stock ROM everything is working as it should but I do have doubts about wifi regarding link dropping. sometimes blurry camera, and just before I made my mind to switch to custom ROM, I did observed some random reboots. then I switched to LEWA OS 5. used it for another 2 days, NFC gone, blurry camera, Large icons. Finally I flashed MIUI, working great since then, still no NFC though. camera a bit improved(I rarely use mobile camera). after using Xposed modules=>app setting with per app dpi. results are impressive. this app really justifies the big screen and gives that most required tablet ui feel to apps. even some battery calibration issues are there, battery still produce awesome results throughout all ROMs. with heavy very usage battery lasted for atleast a day.
rusty4ever said:
Using this phone since last week, build is just enough, nothing to impress neither to disgrace. I tested this phone for 2 days on stock rom, on stock ROM everything is working as it should but I do have doubts about wifi regarding link dropping. sometimes blurry camera, and just before I made my mind to switch to custom ROM, I did observed some random reboots. then I switched to LEWA OS 5. used it for another 2 days, NFC gone, blurry camera, Large icons. Finally I flashed MIUI, working great since then, still no NFC though. camera a bit improved(I rarely use mobile camera). after using Xposed modules=>app setting with per app dpi. results are impressive. this app really justifies the big screen and gives that most required tablet ui feel to apps. even some battery calibration issues are there, battery still produce awesome results throughout all ROMs. with heavy very usage battery lasted for atleast a day.
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Not had any problems at all with Wifi or random rebooting, so maybe I'm just lucky. How does the NFC work is there an app on the phone to use it? Camera in low light is not good at all but a software upgrade should solve that. Will have to have a look at the Xposed Additions in the app store, wasn't aware of it before. Do you have a link for the MIUI rom for the Cross C1?
Overall I have to say I'm happy with the phone too and that big screen is great!
Ferg8080 said:
Not had any problems at all with Wifi or random rebooting, so maybe I'm just lucky. How does the NFC work is there an app on the phone to use it? Camera in low light is not good at all but a software upgrade should solve that. Will have to have a look at the Xposed Additions in the app store, wasn't aware of it before. Do you have a link for the MIUI rom for the Cross C1?
Overall I have to say I'm happy with the phone too and that big screen is great!
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NFC works great but on stock, you can use trigger app. MIUI for c1 don't support NFC for now, as far as WiFi I am not confirm with issue..it may or may not be there..random rebooting started after connecting USB. But solved later by new ROM, camera is real let off for the phone. It may get better by ROM upgrade.
Use needrom for miui ROM with CTR recovery, and xposed 2.4.1, it worked for me...
About size, no one really notices the odd size of the phone. That's does qualify for nice design...
Overall its great for those who want phablet tablet in between.
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rusty4ever said:
NFC works great but on stock, you can use trigger app. MIUI for c1 don't support NFC for now, as far as WiFi I am not confirm with issue..it may or may not be there..random rebooting started after connecting USB. But solved later by new ROM, camera is real let off for the phone. It may get better by ROM upgrade.
Use needrom for miui ROM with CTR recovery, and xposed 2.4.1, it worked for me...
About size, no one really notices the odd size of the phone. That's does qualify for nice design...
Overall its great for those who want phablet tablet in between.
Sent from my UMI C1 using Tapatalk 2
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Have you tried this rom and if so would like to know what you think. I imagine its as efficient as the MIUI5. Can you resize the icons on MIUI5 or can you use Nova launcher to do that. Would like to give the MIUI5 a go but will wait until I come back after holiday as I've more or less got my stock phone the way I want it and everything is working fine. Like you said I don't think the stock rom is very efficient but its fine for now.
Hi everyone. I received this phone in Ireland yesterday from antelife.com,(they have a bad rep, but are UMI official resellers and I had no problem with my order). I have rooted and kept the stock rom, and installed a custom recovery from needrom.com. I also installed xposed and gravity box. I have had no problems other than 3 times now my screen has gone haywire registering rapid phantom screen presses. Battery pulling is the only way to solve this temporarily. Has anyone else got this problem? Also how do we go about setting up an XDA section for our phone?
Thanks,
Teamick5
Touch wood no problems so far with my phone. Not properly tested yet is the GPS or NFC. Happy with the stock rom but am looking to flash a custom rom from needrom but will leave that for another few weeks. What do you think of the sound quality when playing music through headphones, not sure what to make of it? Camera quality especially in low light is pretty poor and in daylight jury is still out. Overall happy with purchase. Bit peeved of to find out warranty is void if not bought through an official retailer, all I can say if this phone goes south I won't be buying a Chinese replacement if they are going to be like that. iShoppstore where I bought mine do say on their website they would give a 1 year warranty so who knows!
Cheers
Tried my headphones today and there is a bug whereby the loudspeaker plays swell and won't auto shut off. Battery life has been excellent, unplugged yesterday morning at 8 and it finally died just after midnight in the pub. That was with constant heavy use all day and data on as I have no WiFi at home. I have also found an lenovo app called "lesafe" running in the background. I cannot enter it, what is it?
negative experience
speaker volume not loud enough and poor high pitch sound.
battery percentage erratic. when at 14% usage very long until 10% (i watched movie 1.5 hrs then 7 hrs standby, it died when i was listening radio and waze gps on). beyond 10% it dropped almost instancely. sometimes after reboot battery shows double!
can get into cwm recovery 1st few times but not anymore.
good points, camera/video, after gps fix very fast lock
yeah there should be a thread on umi cross.
Official Umi Cross C1 rom June 2014 release
Hi,
I found out this official Umi Cross C1 rom
but I don't know how to install it.
Any idea how to do it? please give us instructions if you know how to do it.
note: I am unable to post the link since I am new. so How to post this link to share with you.
Sorry, off topic: how do I know umi cross that I bought is not a fake one? I bought it from antelife.
because if the above is the official release, how come when I press my updater it doesn't come up to update.
My current version is january 2014 release. NFC version.
thanks.
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bego9 said:
note: I am unable to post the link since I am new. so How to post this link to share with you.
thanks.
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okay, just go to google and copy and paste below
【ROM开发者联盟】 UMI C1 乐蛙 14年-稳定版 14.06.19 发布 复制链接
then go to that link>go to the field box on the top to search and paste again and press the button on the right to search, you will get the result and click it and it will take you the website.
So I am hoping it is official release from Umi Cross.
I just got an Umi cross and found some trojans on the device so I want to flash a new rom onto it but I'm not sure what to flash or how
I can't even get into recovery D:
please help!
I know this device is old.. its the only one I have right now and have no clue if i'd ever get the money to upgrade.. just curious how many people still check this forum or if i'm one of the only few...
Also if you are a typical visitor.. maybe post up so I can get to know this Note II community.
Thanks!
interesting.. 10 views already and no votes or posts... lol..
i see it has 23 views.. and 2 responses. Great! so there is still some life here. Are any developers still here?
I still use this device for gaming only. I play Underworld Empire via WiFi/mobile hotspot. Have multiple toons in the games . It is rooted and running TeamOctos MM weekly build rom.
I use my old Note II as a training device for my 6 year old. The thing is a tank.
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thanks guys for responses! So i'm guessing there aren't anymore developers still working on this phone?
Not sure if there is any that hangs around this forum. TeamOctos has their rom on their own website, I'm glad they still make weekly builds for this phone. Runs pretty smoothly for me.
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amoot329 said:
Not sure if there is any that hangs around this forum. TeamOctos has their rom on their own website, I'm glad they still make weekly builds for this phone. Runs pretty smoothly for me.
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First Off, thanks for the response!
Second, Yeah i would love to go with a newer weekly build and version of android.. .. but I just really like to have screen options to turn screen off, bring up power menu, and have options for screenshot and screen record. I had forgotten about the power of XPosed Framework ( which R3D utilizes ) and perhaps that could help make OCTos more useful for me..
I also do like some of the touchwiz features that I can use with the S-Pen.. so i'm torn.. LOL
I have xposed installed along with TeamOctos, gravity box mm module installed. Since TeamOctos rom have most of the features, I scantily use the gravity box options. Don't wanna break anything lol. I find the s-pen was more a gimmick than anything else. The capacitive buttons don't work with the pen, have to manually press with finger (this was fixed with the Note 3, which I sold). Also there are 3rd party apps that can do just about the same as the Samsung spen apps.
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I have xposed installed along with TeamOctos, gravity box mm module installed. Since TeamOctos rom have most of the features, I scantily use the gravity box options. Don't wanna break anything lol. I find the s-pen was more a gimmick than anything else. The capacitive buttons don't work with the pen, have to manually press with finger (this was fixed with the Note 3, which I sold). Also there are 3rd party apps that can do just about the same as the Samsung spen apps.
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yeah i was using that for a little bit.. but I noticed the overall sound volume seemed to be lower... when I went back to 4.4.2 , i could really hear the difference... i'm not sure if that is a AOSP issue or what.. do you notice it?
Yes unfortunately it is because of AOSP. I remember having to manually editing a mixer.xml file to increase the volume but still wasn't close to the sound level of TW rom. I got use to the low lvls after a while.
Now I don't use it as my daily driver so sound isn't really an issue anymore. Performance and battery life is what I'm looking for so it's ideal.
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amoot329 said:
Yes unfortunately it is because of AOSP. I remember having to manually editing a mixer.xml file to increase the volume but still wasn't close to the sound level of TW rom. I got use to the low lvls after a while.
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Ahh ok thank you. that makes me feel a lot better to know it wasn't just me that noticed it and that it wasn't directly related to my phone or my flash status...
so I guess its not an easy fix or even possible since it wasn't addressed when this phone was still being developed... darn..
I really don't recall what the reasoning was, if it was due to drivers or software. It can be remedied by editing the sound file, I believe someone has done it with this phone. Do a post search for low sound or mixer.xml on here.
Haha not trying to sell AOSP roms or anything but I find them more useful with their options. Isn't that the main reason people use Android phones, for their customization?
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I really don't recall what the reasoning was, if it was due to drivers or software. It can be remedied by editing the sound file, I believe someone has done it with this phone. Do a post search for low sound or mixer.xml on here.
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i'll check it out. thanks!
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Haha not trying to sell AOSP roms or anything but I find them more useful with their options. Isn't that the main reason people use Android phones, for their customization?
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HA yes.. but i guess for those of us that don't have multiple phones to try out different ROMs and updates :silly: constantly have to find the happy medium between stability, functionality and customization.. Right now i'm gonna stick with TW 4.4.2 (at least on my Note II) since I need to have these things on my phone for me to use it as a daily driver:
1. Stable (won't freeze up / random reboots / random power offs / FC'ers)
2. Camera - Camera must be able to take great photos (at least as good as the physical camera is)
3. Sound - Must have great sounding audio for voice calls / speakerphone / ringtones and for media watching
4. Functional - Must be able to not miss calls / notifications or messages and connect to data for internet
5. Battery - Battery must be decent to good.. want it to be able to last at least 1 day of medium to heavy use..
amoot329 said:
Yes unfortunately it is because of AOSP. I remember having to manually editing a mixer.xml file to increase the volume but still wasn't close to the sound level of TW rom. I got use to the low lvls after a while.
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Hey.. I just flashed back to OCTos, but i can't find the Mixer_paths.xml in the System/ETC folder... can you help?
Thanks!
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Hey.. I just flashed back to OCTos, but i can't find the Mixer_paths.xml in the System/ETC folder... can you help?
Thanks!
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You are correct there. I could not find it either myself. I wonder if TeamOctos even included it in their build for this phone. I checked with another phone of mine (LG G3) thats running the same ROM. It has the mixer_paths.xml in the folder system/ETC. May have to contact them to find out why... Sorry, like I've mentioned, I don't use my Note II as a daily driver so haven't had the need to increase the sound levels. I wonder if its possible to just copy the file from another ROM?
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You are correct there. I could not find it either myself. I wonder if TeamOctos even included it in their build for this phone. I checked with another phone of mine (LG G3) thats running the same ROM. It has the mixer_paths.xml in the folder system/ETC. May have to contact them to find out why... Sorry, like I've mentioned, I don't use my Note II as a daily driver so haven't had the need to increase the sound levels. I wonder if its possible to just copy the file from another ROM?
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yeah i thought about that but nervous with all that modifications either messing something up or not even getting it as loud as TW..
right now i think ill stay with a 4.4.2 rom and use xposed to get the features i like. do wish i had 6.0 but have to be happy with what i got. ?
Sorry I couldn't have been more helpful. Hope things will look up for you and that you may be able to afford a newer phone. This years phone releases haven't been all the great, maybe next year will see some really great improvements. The biggest thing is the battery life in most cell phones nowadays (unless you have removable option). Manufacturers will never give you a better battery/longer life because they want consumers to keep buying newer phones. Batteries usually only have a lifetime of about ~1.5 years, the more you charge, the less it will hold a charge. Forces people to buy new phones
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Sorry I couldn't have been more helpful. Hope things will look up for you and that you may be able to afford a newer phone. This years phone releases haven't been all the great, maybe next year will see some really great improvements. The biggest thing is the battery life in most cell phones nowadays (unless you have removable option). Manufacturers will never give you a better battery/longer life because they want consumers to keep buying newer phones. Batteries usually only have a lifetime of about ~1.5 years, the more you charge, the less it will hold a charge. Forces people to buy new phones
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yeah true.. and for me its difficult because i'm fairly picky with what I want in the phone... seems like i haven't actually found a "perfect" one yet... several will have 80 to 90% but some will be missing 1 major thing i want.. and then i have to decide how important that is... So far from all the phones i had.. I think my Nexus 5 would probably me my all time favorite... of course I would have preferred an AMOLED display, front facing speakers and better cameras... but again.. had to pick and choose... the HTC 10 was amazing as well.. but I did have some issues with my LTE signal dropping.. so not sure if it was a fluke or because of my Total Wireless service? maybe the ROM.. idk.. LOL
Hmm favorite all time, may have to go with my Note 3 til I sold it. Had it with Verizon, unfortunately the bootloader was locked and when I updated to Jasmine rom, screwed up and lost root. It was a great phone, s pen is so useful, removable battery, amoled display, SD card slot. Camera was alright, my V10 excels in that department! I'm with T-mobile now, service is great for where I need it and their phones are mostly bootloader unlocked. Can easily root them.
Watching Floss Carter on YouTube, with his review of HTC 10. His biggest negative factor is that the phone is too small for him. Everything else is good, he even mentions that HTC should've made two options like HTC 10 and 10+.
His top 5 phones:
1: Note 5
2: Nexus 6p
3: iPhone 6s+
4: S7 edge
5: LG G5
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Hi, Apologise in advanced for a rant but, surely I cant be the only person having issues with this phone? I have black version, in UK with EE. I decided to not get the iPhone XS MAX for this, last year I had the iPhone x it was super fast and efficient. But so far ive had this device 48 hours and im guttered i bought it so far. Im having a lot of issues with fps drops, if I have apps open it goes slow, for example Pokemon go, I find just spinning the ball starts making it lag, compared to my girlfriends s8 and my old iphone, its just constantly feeling unsmooth and dropping frames.
Sometimes the keyboard lags if I have a few apps open, with the specs inside im unsure how it can be failing this bad and lagging for me. Im actually close to sending this back to EE within 14 days, if this doesnt get fixed I cant stick with this for 2 years...
Ive seen a few people talking about performance mode within battery settings but I dont see this, I also dont understand why when im on the phone, notifications arent popping up sometimes, I also have this stupid notification that I cant get rid off, about showing notifications on screen or something.
At the moment, not having a good time at all, is anyone else feeling the same? my version is EMUI 9.0.0.108(C432E10R1P16)
I just dont uderstand how a phone for this cost with the great specs it has can be failing for me so much when multitasking. Especially when watching everyones YouTube videos before launch its running perfectly smooth... I just dont understand it. Maybe its my device? Maybe its just because im used to quick and effecient iphone/samsung devices and this is lacking
Anyone else having issues?
EDIT: I don't understand why, but since making this post, I've had absolutely. No issues with the device, its ran super smooth exactly as it should. In my opinion, pokemon go has ran perfectly. I love this phone, I don't want rid of it and it has so much potential, but I need this performance consistently, not just sporadic where its good for a few hours then suddenly bad again, I've since learned I'm stuck on update 108 apparently there's already a new one out but not with EE yet, maybe they've fixed some. Issues, I couldn't find a change log anywhere
Don't see any of this. I am used to using iPhone (although not X) for work and 20 pro is so much faster
I wish it would be understood that software must settle after first setup for a few days 3-4 avg. Same goes for after a reset
You saying that is slower than S8 is VERY worrying as that phone to me was considerably slower than S9+ or Note 9 and both S9+ and Note 9 were still pretty slow and laggy for me (and a lot of dropping frames) I was expecting an upgrade in terms of speed from Note 9 to Mate 20 Pro :/. Fastest phone I've used is Oneplus 6 and it was waaay faster and smoother than Note 9.
I'll let you know next week how mine is. Did you by any chance do a clean set up (installing and configuring everything from scratch) or did you use the app/feature to clone everything from previous phone?
Same thing here
Occasional keyboard lags, touch latency lag, that annoying notification
Apart from this it's a very good phone
I really hope we can achieve root at some point soon, as now I've got this all setup, I'm starting to miss the additional features root offers....
Clean install, it's weird and this probably sounds so dumb, but when I'm outdoors on pokemon go it feels choppy compared to indoors... However maybe it's not the phone and its an issue with pokemon go. Pubg ran fine, bare in mind you can only. Use low graphics until a later update haha.
I also heard a few people saying that for some reason over a few days it gets better so see what happens
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Hi, Apologise in advanced for a rant but, surely I cant be the only person having issues with this phone? I have black version, in UK with EE. I decided to not get the iPhone XS MAX for this, last year I had the iPhone x it was super fast and efficient. But so far ive had this device 48 hours and im guttered i bought it so far. Im having a lot of issues with fps drops, if I have apps open it goes slow, for example Pokemon go, I find just spinning the ball starts making it lag, compared to my girlfriends s8 and my old iphone, its just constantly feeling unsmooth and dropping frames.
Sometimes the keyboard lags if I have a few apps open, with the specs inside im unsure how it can be failing this bad and lagging for me. Im actually close to sending this back to EE within 14 days, if this doesnt get fixed I cant stick with this for 2 years...
Ive seen a few people talking about performance mode within battery settings but I dont see this, I also dont understand why when im on the phone, notifications arent popping up sometimes, I also have this stupid notification that I cant get rid off, about showing notifications on screen or something.
At the moment, not having a good time at all, is anyone else feeling the same? my version is EMUI 9.0.0.108(C432E10R1P16)
I just dont uderstand how a phone for this cost with the great specs it has can be failing for me so much when multitasking. Especially when watching everyones YouTube videos before launch its running perfectly smooth... I just dont understand it. Maybe its my device? Maybe its just because im used to quick and effecient iphone/samsung devices and this is lacking
Anyone else having issues?
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Yes I'm finding lots of issues with software too. Which is a shame because I love everything else. I'm not finding too much lag but I have notice when YouTube is in PIP things do lag.
The camera app switching between wide and telephoto lens is very laggy and hangs... It even sometimes hangs when taking a picture
3rd party launchers are pretty much a no go, there either crash and don't work at all or work with some bugs.
I sometimes get notifications for WhatsApp etc and where the body of the message is suppose to be is blank
I'm finding apps are being closed a lot and not utilising the ram.
So your not the only one, the software has a lot of jank.
Apparently the 108 build isn't the latest and theres a 202 build that's suppose to be the official release version and fixes things. Im going to wait and see if this drops in the next few days and see if it sorts it out
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Clean install, it's weird and this probably sounds so dumb, but when I'm outdoors on pokemon go it feels choppy compared to indoors... However maybe it's not the phone and its an issue with pokemon go. Pubg ran fine, bare in mind you can only. Use low graphics until a later update haha.
I also heard a few people saying that for some reason over a few days it gets better so see what happens
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Theres a good chance pokeman hasn't been optimised for emui 9 or the kirin 980 yet
I also got from EE yesterday and am slightly under whelmed. However i haven't had any keyboard lag and the phone for the most part has been fast. The facial recognition had however been hit or miss, the 4k video is abysmal and FHD isn't too great either. My previous htc u12 seems to have a much better camera for both photo and video although the Huawei had more options. The most annoying thing so far is the slide down on home screen that brings up the search bar. Rules out any scrollable widget (Google schedule or bookmarks) s it keeps going to the search function while scrolling. Going to test the camera properly at a gig in the week alongside U12. If it isn't better, it's going back I'm sorry to say. It does charge very quickly though.
The charging is fantastic, super fast... The weird thing I done a benchmark with antutu it got the top device for benchmark literally number 1. So no. Doubt the power is within the phone it just has to be the software. Again sounds dumb but since doing the benchmark the phones been perfect. Very. Smooth no. Issues it's just so hit and miss sometimes it's perfect, other times slightly slow. I noticed with the wide angle camera it. Lags when changing too
Just switched from my old S8 and I'm absolutely stunned with sleek performance of M8 20 Pro. Got my black mob from ee. However once updated I've switched Nova on and removed some unused apps. As previously said I'd performed factory reset and check all once again.
Wait for the final os update and for apps to catch up. Keep the phone for 3-4 weeks and if your issues aren't resolved, just return it (guessing most of you have a 30 day return on it). Just stop whining like children about resolvable software issues.
I had the P20 Pro and loved the hardware but hated the software. Lots of small bugs and annoyances everywhere so after some months I could not stand it anymore. Very tempted by the Mate 20 Pro but am afraid I will hate the software once again
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Wait for the final os update and for apps to catch up. Keep the phone for 3-4 weeks and if your issues aren't resolved, just return it (guessing most of you have a 30 day return on it). Just stop whining like children about resolvable software issues.
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Sorry but it's not whining like children. The software should be polished and work flawless just like the hardware. There's will be updates but no guarantee the bugs will be fixed
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Wait for the final os update and for apps to catch up. Keep the phone for 3-4 weeks and if your issues aren't resolved, just return it (guessing most of you have a 30 day return on it). Just stop whining like children about resolvable software issues.
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with EE as I opened a new contract I only have 14 days, im hoping it turns out well im loving it, its just the issues I mentioned above, its weird, because sometimes its amazing, since I done a stress test on an app and a benchmark its been performing better, its weird.
Sometimes its the best phone ive had, sometimes it just lags and feels like the worst.
I would love some updates before 14 days to reassure me as I do like this phone. I was more interested if others have the same issue
Same boat here pal love the phone but the software is a let down also a lot of stuff missing like AI cinema scan thing.
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Sorry but it's not whining like children. The software should be polished and work flawless just like the hardware. There's will be updates but no guarantee the bugs will be fixed
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I know. It should. In that magic place where unicorns taste like rainbows.
But we live in reality, where no phone comes up without bugs. For example, name me a phone that came out this fall and didn't need a patch after release to fix bugs?
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I know. It should. In that magic place where unicorns taste like rainbows.
But we live in reality, where no phone comes up without bugs. For example, name me a phone that came out this fall and didn't need a patch after release to fix bugs?
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Yes we also live in a reality where some people don't want to spend £1000 on a product that doesn't work properly, and lose the opportunity to either get money back or try something else on the off chance it might be fixed in the future.
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Same boat here pal love the phone but the software is a let down also a lot of stuff missing like AI cinema scan thing.
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Have to agree the phone is great but the missing software features (ai cinema, 3d scanning) are annoying. Neither are essential but when a product is launched as including them and a fair chunk of the launch event was devoted to showing how they work id at least expect them to be present!
I've been using the phone for 24 hours and my feelings are mixed. I love the design and size of the device, battery is amazing but the software seems like prerelease.
I've had random sound pops when the phone is on silent, can't use launchers properly with the gestures (stock launcher is terrible), no notification settings for gmail so I can't see how many unread emails I have, no thought on how notifications will show with the notch and zero customisation of the status bar to make more space, it's like the notch has wiped out a feature of android displaying your notifications, no video effects, seems bad to me that review units had it to sell the phone but its not on retail units. I know updates will come but they have to be checked by the carrier which could take a while. At this point I'm not sure whether to stick with it or admit the phone isn't for me.
Hey guys.
So I love my pocophone and the latest beta update (i'm actually using Xiaomi.eu Rom) does seem to improve a lot with the phones touch lag issue; however, I still kept getting some stutters during scrolling and in particular vertical scrolling. I believe this might be due to screen response times mismatching with screen refresh rates. I believe so because if I dragged my finger at relatively slow speeds (approx 7.5 s to go the entire vertical length of the screen) across even a relatively small page (my app drawer for example), the page would jump as if it didn't track my finger for a split second.
So things I did without much success:
1. used other kernels: franco and extreme (extreme kernel with 65 Hz screen refresh rate was a bit better though)
2. changed animation speeds. (also turned off animations)
3. turned off mi optimizations etc.
Today I found this old forum post on xda (https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/mod-increase-frames-5-14-15-t3108786). The author changes the egl swap interval to allow better screen refresh and fluidity. I am not an actual developer so from what I read, it seemed like it might be a decent thing to try. I didn't flash anything however I used the terminal command "setprop debug.egl.swapinterval -60" as suggested by author. This won't stick past a reboot but I think it did help with scrolling smoothness and fluidity.
I was hoping you guys could try it and let me know if there are any differences for you guys.
PS: Again, I'm just tinkering and trying to see what happens. Hoping to get some input from others just in case what I see is placebo. Didn't have any negative effects and I hope you don't either.
I really want to buy this phone but if the "stable" update does not correct all the touch issues (which i strongly believe it is a software issue), i won't buy it.
Of course you have that right. But a few things. Firstly, the phone is great, please use it for a bit to experience this. Secondly, I am being knitpicky and actually most people are reporting no issues whatsoever. In fact, this post is about the fact that I am not currently seeing the stutters. I am wondering if it's because of the changes outlined above and was hoping we could figure out together. Might even be that something else I changed corrected the issue. I just didn't realize it then. Lastly, if you're looking for the perfect phone without any issues, you might have to look away from "flagship killer" type phones. These phones typically give performance that comes at the cost of tiny issues. So are you a fan of the best bang for your buck, the highest highs of performance at the cost of minor tradeoffs that you can work with an active community to fix. Or do you want a perfectly smooth experience. At this price point, you don't really get both.
If the command has helped you you can set the command to run on startup. And try to use a stable build.
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I really want to buy this phone but if the "stable" update does not correct all the touch issues (which i strongly believe it is a software issue), i won't buy it.
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The touch issue is not software issue. It has been partially corrected through software, but it will never be fixed. If you want to buy a poco, be sure to search one from December batch because it has the Focaltech panel which is ok, and not the Novatek panel which is the ****ty one.
neinfricatu said:
The touch issue is not software issue. It has been partially corrected through software, but it will never be fixed. If you want to buy a poco, be sure to search one from December batch because it has the Focaltech panel which is ok, and not the Novatek panel which is the ****ty one.
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And how can i make sure the phone is from December batch?
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And how can i make sure the phone is from December batch?
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It is written on the box. 12.2018
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It is written on the box. 12.2018
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I highly doubt i can return my phone because it doesn't have the non-touch issue panel.
Any other way to check the batch without checking the box?
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I highly doubt i can return my phone because it doesn't have the non-touch issue panel.
Any other way to check the batch without checking the box?
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Ask the seller in advance..
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Ask the seller in advance..
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I'm buying the phone from an local online store, that's the issue
I haven't noticed any kind of screen lag. Date on box: 09.2018, don't know what panel that would be.
10.2.2.0 stable, faultless performance.
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I haven't noticed any kind of screen lag. Date on box: 09.2018, don't know what panel that would be.
10.2.2.0 stable, faultless performance.
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Not even touch delays/ghosting?
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Not even touch delays/ghosting?
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No, no problems at all.
There is a new update that is told to fix the screen issues. Has anybody tested it?