[Q] Display glass and touch digitizer glued together? - Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am very interested in buying this phone, but before I commit I need to know one thing. Is the touch digitizer and the protective glass glued together like on previous models? Because if so I will stick with my Z1C and abandon the line once I'm done with that. There's nothing more irritating than having to purchase an entirely new screen just because I happened to get a hairline crack in it. I want to be able to use my phone without repairing it if I accidentally crack the screen.
Ideally I would like to see something like a YouTube video of a Z5C with a hairline crack (or completely cracked screen) showing that the touch digitizer works both above and below the crack post-incident.

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Since Xperia Z sony use different display than others
the touch panel is nearer to glass also for display panel
they explained it as removing one of air layer between them to have better touch experience and viewing
so this one is like other xperia But there is plenty of reasons to upgrade from XZ1c to XZ5c
it s huge upgrade in all aspects...
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I agree, but if the touch is gonna break when it cracks I'd rather just skip Xperias overall, already had 2 break (Z1 and Z1C), I just don't feel like spending $300 every time I get a small crack in the glass.

Sorry for bumping an (my) old thread, but I would still like an answer to this question, and this seems like a good place to find one. My base assumption is that the Z5 Compact does have this issue (as many Sony devices have before it) so I am tempted to just buy a Nexus 5X because I know it doesn't have it, but I would rather buy a Z5C if I knew it didn't have this issue.

hope this answers your question. Check out the image.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-...ompact-ips-screen-issue-t3239015#post63612362

Alright, that seems to suggest that my fears were correct. Damn, really wanted to buy a Z5 Compact.

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scratches on the screen?

How does one go about removing them? I've done a google and XDA-Forums search and found that there are numerous answers all seemingly discounted by any number of people:
toothpaste, no good for capacitive screens
Displex sure, THEY say it's good for the TP2, but so many people say not
So, anyone have any ideas.
And, yes, I know, screenguards are great and the holy grail. I don't have one. So, please, I know I am asking for a cause that I probably could have prevented, but every time I put a screenguard on my device, it was much too mushy and I tried a lot of them.
Thanks in advance.
I would also like to know how to remove the scratches on the screen. The screen guards make the touch screen less sensative. Theres got to be some type of wax or something.
I've used the screen guard that came with my TP2 since day one. My screen is still pretty darn sensitive....
I have skinomi on my tp2 and although it takes alot of patience to put it works flawlessly...ive tried scratching it with keys and the thing just wont scratch!! its awesome..its a bit on the expensive side if you get the entire skin for the phone like i did but its worth the money in my opinion.
go to skinomi.com
I guess T-Cut might work, i used it on my dads samsung and it cleared up the screen some.
When i was a kid we used to wear swatch watches which always got scratched up, we used to use Duraglit made by Brasso which is a metal polish wadding...kinda like cotton wool with a light abrasive in it, which worked wonders!
Something with very light abrasive properties(like toothpaste) should do it but watch out for any solvents and chemicals in the product that may react with or even MELT the plastic!!!!!
most things like T-Cut scratch remover just take a lot of time and patience.
I anything works for you re-post and let us know!
Actually Displex tells you not to use its product on resistive touch-screens.
Anyway, I just ordered iDrops about a week ago and have been trying it for the last day with no results, at all. I've tried variable amounts of pressure, dozens of applications as the instructions say and I've only hurt my phone. All it does it put a strange texture on your phone that makes it grainy and more susceptible to scratches. Even my stylus scratches the phone, now! I had to use a wet cloth to get the graininess away.
My recommendation is not to bother with iDrops. It seems to not work for the TP2.
Hmm, its just an idea but I've been repairing my windscreen today using special resin that cures in direct sunlight. I must say it works pretty well, it's hard to notice the repair. I would try t-cut or other mild abbrasive to get rid of light scratches and fill really bad ones with that resin. Next comes a good screen protector to hide any imperfections.
thanks, but WHAT website
spammmer said:
if your touch screen is very scratch or broken, you can just buy the new touch screen and then replace it, it is easy to do. I also has instruction. you can visit my website.
thanks
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I see your post, yet, I have no idea what website to which you refer. Nevermind, didn't realize it was in your header.
Why do you not send instructions with the order? IF you're selling replacement parts why then must a customer have to contact you for replacement instructions?
He is just advertising himself. Just find the best price on buy it, you can find the HTC service manual on google.
Not disputing that fact
petard said:
He is just advertising himself. Just find the best price on buy it, you can find the HTC service manual on google.
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Just questioning that if they sell the parts, why must the instructions be emailed separately?
Bumping because I need the same thing resolved...
Questions:
1) Anyone know a good, semi-reputable site to replace the front screen.
2) Is the front plastic considered part of the LCD Screen, or do they come apart separate? (The scratch on my phone is purely on the outer-most section of the screen, with no damage to the image display) -- I ask as some phones i've seen have an "LCD Display" followed by a "Cover Screen")
3) Regardless of #2's answer, what am I looking to buy (The technical/semi-technical name)? Closest I've seen is LCD Digitizer, but I'm not sure if i need that component or the LCD Screen.... cover.... portion..
Unfortunately the part i saw was $124, and I happen to have insurance on the phone if it does indeed get that expensive, but I just hope the parts are separate ;-)
Thanks,
-Lee
BBM-Lee said:
Bumping because I need the same thing resolved...
Questions:
1) Anyone know a good, semi-reputable site to replace the front screen.
2) Is the front plastic considered part of the LCD Screen, or do they come apart separate? (The scratch on my phone is purely on the outer-most section of the screen, with no damage to the image display) -- I ask as some phones i've seen have an "LCD Display" followed by a "Cover Screen")
3) Regardless of #2's answer, what am I looking to buy (The technical/semi-technical name)? Closest I've seen is LCD Digitizer, but I'm not sure if i need that component or the LCD Screen.... cover.... portion..
Unfortunately the part i saw was $124, and I happen to have insurance on the phone if it does indeed get that expensive, but I just hope the parts are separate ;-)
Thanks,
-Lee
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I am nearly positive you do not need to replace the LCD. You only need a new digitizer (that is the name of the layer that recognizes touch) which you can find for around $25 online!
petard said:
I am nearly positive you do not need to replace the LCD. You only need a new digitizer (that is the name of the layer that recognizes touch) which you can find for around $25 online!
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Correct me if I'm wrong but changing this digitizer would void warranty if I were to change it myself ? ?
Go to At&t and see if they will replace it for you if you buy the digitizer. If not ask At&t or find a reputable place that does, ive seen for around $50 which was suggested to me by at&t. It's worth the money trust me! When I had my old LG Incite, I tried replacing the digitizer because my screen was scratched and ended up breaking the lock and camera buttons as well as the touch screen. Since then every phone i've had gets a case and screen protector from the day I lay eyes on it. If the case and screen protector are their after I get my phone I wont use it till their on. Scratches just annoy me but I guess i'm just odd lol.

[Q] Replacing the Xperia Tablet Zs screen - adhesive?

So I've taken the old cracked LCD off my Tablet Z and am about to order a new replacement.
Question is - anyone know what is used to stick the back cover back on and what is the best adhesive for sticking the LCD/Touch screen unit back in (3M double sided tape?). The cover was attached using some form of spongy foam tape - where can I get this from? Is this a sealant for the waterproofing aspect of the Xperia Tablet Z?
mrchumley said:
So I've taken the old cracked LCD off my Tablet Z and am about to order a new replacement.
Question is - anyone know what is used to stick the back cover back on and what is the best adhesive for sticking the LCD/Touch screen unit back in (3M double sided tape?). The cover was attached using some form of spongy foam tape - where can I get this from? Is this a sealant for the waterproofing aspect of the Xperia Tablet Z?
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as far as understand if you open the case once, your device is no longer waterproof even if you use adhesive/sealant.
I think your right, I seem to remember there is mention of some form of pressure test point in the tear down. In any case I won't be risking it near water. But generally does anyone know what the best adhesive to use is. Original stuff seems to be very strong but soft and tacky, unlike the superglue type which I will be avoiding.
Gasket
Hey Guys,
I have to fix my screen and want to do it properly (read: OEM) so that it is again watertight. I have found the proper gaskets on ebay from the user original_parts_mobile_99, but they are so damn expensive. Anyone else know where these can be purchased from (at a reasonable price)? It seems everyone is selling the gaskets for the Xperia Z phones, but not the tablet
Stu
stuart23 said:
Hey Guys,
I have to fix my screen and want to do it properly (read: OEM) so that it is again watertight. I have found the proper gaskets on ebay from the user original_parts_mobile_99, but they are so damn expensive. Anyone else know where these can be purchased from (at a reasonable price)? It seems everyone is selling the gaskets for the Xperia Z phones, but not the tablet
Stu
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Thanks, I understood what i needed. now i Found for less. Thanks dude!
stuart23 said:
Hey Guys,
I have to fix my screen and want to do it properly (read: OEM) so that it is again watertight. I have found the proper gaskets on ebay from the user original_parts_mobile_99, but they are so damn expensive. Anyone else know where these can be purchased from (at a reasonable price)? It seems everyone is selling the gaskets for the Xperia Z phones, but not the tablet
Stu
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i think it's impossible to make tablet watertight again outside the factory. Even official service centers, while repairing device not always make it watertight again.

Some Thoughts on a Recent Z Ultra Purchase

I decided to write down some unorganized thoughts about the Z Ultra since the device seems to be piquing many's interest of late with the price drops.
--Running at 1080p on the snapdragon, I imagine it'll continue to fare well against newer phones like the G3 since those use a lot more power to render the extra pixels.
--I'm surprised that Sony's software is uncommonly decent. I was expecting some really awful bloatware but the only bloated application is the small app widget which is actually a nice feature (also easy to remove if desired).
--I especially enjoy how it renders websites like a tablet instead of a smartphone, I don't see this mentioned a lot but it makes a big difference to me from a usability perspective.
--Battery life is average all things considered.
--Speaker quality isn't as bad as some reviews made me expect but I understand why they mention it. You can tell it's actually loud but muffled from the waterproofing since the whole device vibrates when the volume is cranked.
Some drawbacks in comparing it to my last device (Nexus 4):
--This will be the first cellphone I put a case on in years since there are a lot of broken screen reports considering how relatively uncommon the device is. I bet one of the two screens they use can't handle much flex so it cracks when bent in your pocket.
--The glass also doesn't feel as "high-end" as the Gorilla Glass + oleo-phobic coating I'm coming from. Hopefully the GlassM screen protector made of Gorilla Glass can remedy this. Maybe I'm a bit biased from using and having such a positive experience with Gorilla Glass in the past.
--I miss Qi inductive charging (I guess the newer Sony phones have it but not the Ultra).
Overall, I'm not blown away but I'm impressed considering the $300-$350 price it's going for at the moment ($335-$400 to me since I consider it a necessity to put a case and oleo-phobic screen protector on the device).
the glass is good (dragontail) but has a too soft anti shatter film on the top that is a pain to remove
luceri84 said:
I decided to write down some unorganized thoughts about the Z Ultra since the device seems to be piquing many's interest of late with the price drops.
--Running at 1080p on the snapdragon, I imagine it'll continue to fare well against newer phones like the G3 since those use a lot more power to render the extra pixels.
--I'm surprised that Sony's software is uncommonly decent. I was expecting some really awful bloatware but the only bloated application is the small app widget which is actually a nice feature (also easy to remove if desired).
--I especially enjoy how it renders websites like a tablet instead of a smartphone, I don't see this mentioned a lot but it makes a big difference to me from a usability perspective.
--Battery life is average all things considered.
--Speaker quality isn't as bad as some reviews made me expect but I understand why they mention it. You can tell it's actually loud but muffled from the waterproofing since the whole device vibrates when the volume is cranked.
Some drawbacks in comparing it to my last device (Nexus 4):
--This will be the first cellphone I put a case on in years since there are a lot of broken screen reports considering how relatively uncommon the device is. I bet one of the two screens they use can't handle much flex so it cracks when bent in your pocket.
--The glass also doesn't feel as "high-end" as the Gorilla Glass + oleo-phobic coating I'm coming from. Hopefully the GlassM screen protector made of Gorilla Glass can remedy this. Maybe I'm a bit biased from using and having such a positive experience with Gorilla Glass in the past.
--I miss Qi inductive charging (I guess the newer Sony phones have it but not the Ultra).
Overall, I'm not blown away but I'm impressed considering the $300-$350 price it's going for at the moment ($335-$400 to me since I consider it a necessity to put a case and oleo-phobic screen protector on the device).
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1. Bigger glass will aways require more protection. It's the law of physics.
2. I put Glass M and never been so happy with my XZU. Just remember to make it 100% clean when you apply it though. I have this minor dust left so initially i'm mad about that but after a while i'll just let it slide..
3. Magnetic Dock will serve the same purpose as Qi, even better.
I'm a bit nervous about putting the GlassM on with the dust. I've read that taking a hot shower in the room you're working will get rid of the dust in the air so I'll try that with the "hinge method" to align. It's not a cheap screen protector and seems to be taking its time coming from Asia to USA so I'll be irked if I mess it up.
Also, I'm surprised by how affordable the dk30 alternatives are.
If you have ordered protectors for both sides, make sure you put the back one on first, so that if you mess up, it'll at least be on the least visible side. I applied mine in a steamy bathroom and got no specks. Just make sure the surface is clean too.
I recently purchased the Skinomi TechSkin full body protector for my XZU. I have had this brand of screen protector before on my Moto Milestone 2 and Xperia T LT30p, and it did what it said it would do, which is "Protection For Perfection."
I just sold my Z ultra after having it a few months. I too was quite impressed by the software. Though I am one of the few who detests stock android. I will never again buy a Nexus or GP phone. Sony's skin, I find so far, to be the most beautiful android UX to date. And I think their keyboard is the best. Even better than Swiftkey. Finally, LOVE the dualshock compatibility out of the box. It blows away iPega, SteelSeries and Moga.
It was just that little bit too big for me. And despite the thinness, the flat slab design made it uncomfortable for me to hold. Any manufacturer making a phablet needs to look to the Lumia 1520. That phone is a pleasure to hold and use.
I finally got a Oneplus One invite so that is what I am using now. A buddy who has one talked me into it. While he found the phone to be huge (coming from a Moto X) after the ZU, I find it to be absolutely tiny. I am going to miss the large screen and Xperia UX. And it's going to suck going back to a Moga (I don't hack/root)
I'm going crazy reading all the things I'm hearing about the z ultra. I placed my order Friday morning for my c6833 and it will be in my hands on wensday can't wait to fire up this monster

Only replace Display Glass?

Hi Guys,
i think the most of you know, that the Z2 has a really poor glass quality. (My phone fell down from about 30 CM to a carpet and the screen had a little crack and the touchscreen didn't work. (Insurance of my friend payed for this, because he has thrown it down)
The costs for the repair were 200 €!
Now i found this on ebay: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Sony-XP...zer_Ersatzteile_Werkzeuge&hash=item3a9f2231e3
It was sold 53 times, but i thought you can't replace only the glass?
Or is it possible?
No, dont try it, I already bought one of them but at the end I experienced that the glass and lcd display is sticked to each other and not seperable.
I had to buy another one with lcd+glass and was able to fix.
They are selling but its a fault, we do not have factories to combine those glasses with lcd. They are cheating, be careful.
It‘s a incell screen so can't be separated
Glass and screen are seperate on Z2 from what i saw when i disasembled my phone.
Envious_Data said:
Glass and screen are seperate on Z2 from what i saw when i disasembled my phone.
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On my D6503 glass/digitizer/lcd was glued together. Changed display recently because of a tiny fall.
But atleast its fairly easy to change.

Need to replace the glass

Hello. I am pretty devestated this morning. Mid last week I bought a Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet. Spent quite a bit on it. Put it in a case, and had a screen protector on it. Though last night it had fallen from the side onto the floor about 3 foot and despite the protection it now has a crack on the screen. The LCD is fine. No problems with it. Though the touch is a bit messed up. It will only notice the touches at the bottom. It's now unusable.
I have been looking everywhere for a replacement digitizer but u can only seem to find a replacement glass with the lcd screen. Costing around £200. Where as I just need the glass.
The z1 tablet glass is around £30 and I believe it may be the same... can anyone confirm? Or will the z1 glass not work with my z2 tablwt. I think they're both the same size... 10.1 ?
Really stuck with what to do here... don't want to be paying £200 to get this fixed.
Did you ever have any luck doing this? I've managed to do the same thing and am now wondering if the z1 replacement will work. Thanks!
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hannaway1990 said:
Hello. I am pretty devestated this morning. Mid last week I bought a Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet. Spent quite a bit on it. Put it in a case, and had a screen protector on it. Though last night it had fallen from the side onto the floor about 3 foot and despite the protection it now has a crack on the screen. The LCD is fine. No problems with it. Though the touch is a bit messed up. It will only notice the touches at the bottom. It's now unusable.
I have been looking everywhere for a replacement digitizer but u can only seem to find a replacement glass with the lcd screen. Costing around £200. Where as I just need the glass.
The z1 tablet glass is around £30 and I believe it may be the same... can anyone confirm? Or will the z1 glass not work with my z2 tablwt. I think they're both the same size... 10.1 ?
Really stuck with what to do here... don't want to be paying £200 to get this fixed.
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You should have very specific equipment for the replacing digitizer on the LCD, better and easy way buy complete set for replacing.
i did this on my z2. It was not as advertised....... the best approach is to by the full LCD and Glass assembly. To remove the old assembley you will need to heat the glass significantly to soften the adhesive. Even then, it will most likely shatter. Dont worry.... you dont need it. Chip, scrape, pull it all off the frame being careful not to damage any of the bezel or the underlying components. Then once all is off, take some goof off and remove all the old adhesive. Then put some new aadhesive or thin double sided tape in the frame track and then reset the new LCD assembley. Prior to that though, verify it works first as getting it back off may shatter the glass again.
Not to tough as long as you have the full assembley to reinstall......

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