MicroSD port? (leaked information from the FCC) - Nexus 6P General

http://www.frandroid.com/marques/google/313073_google-nexus-6p-enfin-port-microsd-nexus
if you need a more information or translation, ask me. but the image is in english

AndroidPolice says they confirmed with several Google sources that, despite the FCC documents, neither of the new Nexus devices will support microSD

I rather have a lot of internal storage over MicroSD. MicroSD support in Android is terrible and doesn't work most time + it's slow.

Kahun said:
I rather have a lot of internal storage over MicroSD. MicroSD support in Android is terrible and doesn't work most time + it's slow.
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Supposedly in the developer builds of Android M, USB OTG is fully supported. Whether that makes it into the OTA on Oct 5th remains to be seen.

Looks like 64 will be $50 more than 32, and 128 will be $150 more than 32. So $50 extra for each 32GB of storage.

Lack of microSD is a show stopper for me. I think more and more people are porting files/media from device to device using external microSD storage. Yes, it's slower, but plenty fast enough for media playback and for general storage.
I'm currently rocking a Sandisk 200GB microSD in my Galaxy S5.

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96GB Transformer?

Throw one of these bad boys in there (assuming the Transformer would recognize it) and you could get 96GB on the tablet without the sd slot in the dock:
http://www.kingmax.com/news_info.asp?fid=145&id=2030
I wonder how much that would cost?
I will admit that that would be super wicked but I doubt the tab would recognize it.
iirc the microSD slot on the tablet itself is only SDHC, which is 32gb max, this guy is SDXC, which is supported in the dock but not the tablet, as per Asus.
Who needs that much space? What are you saving on your tab? i have not even touched my 16GB onboard and let alone my 32GB SD Card
CLOUD FTW
SeanBond said:
Who needs that much space? What are you saving on your tab? i have not even touched my 16GB onboard and let alone my 32GB SD Card
CLOUD FTW
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As long as there exists a way to utilize local external storage, people will find a way to fill up said storage. For those of us that keep large collections of movies, music, photos, and games, cloud storage is simply not sufficient.
Personally I have over 200GB worth of music alone, so an external hard drive is my only option if I want to be able to take it all with me on my Transformer. I can't imagine how much it'd cost for enough cloud storage to handle my music collection.
SeanBond said:
Who needs that much space? What are you saving on your tab? i have not even touched my 16GB onboard and let alone my 32GB SD Card
CLOUD FTW
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CLOUD is not ftw! It all depends on the quality of your internet connection and its always requires that you are online to have access to your storage.
Umm, why settle for a 64gb SDXC.....? If you're burning money just go all out and grab one of these
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-Media-F...MZW4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308527700&sr=8-1
Apparently the micro sdxc cards should work in the microsd card slot as well as the 'normal' sized sdxc cards in the dock when they are made available, so 4tb (2tb micro sdxc +2tb sdxc) of extra storage isn't looking too bad for the future (when re-mortgaging the house isn't necessary to purchase them).
There's conflicting theories on whether the microSD slot will support SDXC capacities, and I can't seem to find anyone that has actually tried it, since obviously no one can actually get their hands on a micro SDXC card yet. I don't think we'll know for sure until someone is able to try it.
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There's conflicting theories on whether the microSD slot will support SDXC capacities, and I can't seem to find anyone that has actually tried it, since obviously no one can actually get their hands on a micro SDXC card yet. I don't think we'll know for sure until someone is able to try it.
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Quite true, but the sdxc cards were designed to work, and be backward compatible with sd card readers (once the driver is installed), so even if it's not an official feature from Asus it will more than likely become an official feature by google for android and therefore be possible to implement in the future. Link for more info here:
http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdxc/using_sdxc
Whatever happens there's always hope, for a storage behemoth.
stuntdouble said:
Quite true, but the sdxc cards were designed to work, and be backward compatible with sd card readers (once the driver is installed), so even if it's not an official feature from Asus it will more than likely become an official feature by google for android and therefore be possible to implement in the future. Link for more info here:
http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdxc/using_sdxc
Whatever happens there's always hope, for a storage behemoth.
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Sorry but I think you misunderstood the page you linked to. An SDXC card will only _ever_ work in SDXC capable hardware.
Only Use SDXC Memory Cards in SDXC Devices
SDXC devices are backwards compatible, so they accept SD and SDHC memory cards. SDXC memory cards must only be used with SDXC devices and should never be used in non-compatible devices.
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Each Transformer SD slot is either SDXC or it isn't. if it isn't it will never be able to use SDXC cards.
@SilentMobius
The only reason they state on that page that SD card slots in 'non compatible' devices wont work, is either because the slot is outdated or there is no easy way to update the drivers to make them read the newer cards (firmware flashes via a computer and usb cables can add features such as these, but most manufacturers only support their latest hardware, and quickly forget about 4+ month old devices). There will be a way to update the drivers in the TF, and Android devices have a long lifespan, as I think everyone on these forums would agree.
Granted there have been a few minor revisions of the SD card socket over the years, but the ones based on the more modern revisions should be upgradable to SDXC compatibility via drivers. It all comes down to what slot, as you say, they have put in the device and the jury is still out on that one, as there are no visible markings internally to specify.
As we all know SDXC cards work in the dock reader, even though Asus dont state this on their specification sheet any more, so the same should/could be true for the micro slot. As they are only just appearing on the market, we shall find out in time.
stuntdouble said:
@SilentMobius
The only reason they state on that page that SD card slots in 'non compatible' devices wont work, is either because the slot is outdated or there is no easy way to update the drivers to make them read the newer cards (firmware flashes via a computer and usb cables can add features such as these, but most manufacturers only support their latest hardware, and quickly forget about 4+ month old devices). There will be a way to update the drivers in the TF, and Android devices have a long lifespan, as I think everyone on these forums would agree.
Granted there have been a few minor revisions of the SD card socket over the years, but the ones based on the more modern revisions should be upgradable to SDXC compatibility via drivers. It all comes down to what slot, as you say, they have put in the device and the jury is still out on that one, as there are no visible markings internally to specify.
As we all know SDXC cards work in the dock reader, even though Asus dont state this on their specification sheet any more, so the same should/could be true for the micro slot. As they are only just appearing on the market, we shall find out in time.
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Considering MicroSDXC != SDXC and is not out yet, I say that is a big NO
Audiogalaxy ftw. No matter how large your music collection you can stream it from anywhere. Now if I can only find a similar service for movies

SGS3 intalled memory 16gb vs 32gb?

I've been wondering which GS3 to buy, the 16gb or 32gb model? I would usually go with the 16gb as there's the option of using an external sd card anyway, however, the phone performance is better with apps installed on internal memory and also there are still apps in the market that don't get transferred to the sd card. Another concern is the size of apps that keep growing everyday (I think now min. is 4gb) such as amazing games launched recently (e.g. Nova 3) and since this is a beast of a phone, and I'm planning to keep it for the next 2 yrs, I was wondering if 16gb would suffice?!!
Any thoughts from anyone would be appreciated.
Be greedy and go for more, why settle for less?
16Gb is more than enough for just apps, plus you get up to 64Gb extra for external storage. Also, you can only get the 32Gb version in the UK if your on Vodafone, otherwise you have to wait a month.
I just cancelled my pre-order so that i can get the 64GB version
I have a feeling that it may not be available
I have a bad feeling that 64gb is a myth.. Even if its not, most likely its in aug or sept.
As I got it, 32GB version will be available in UK from Vodafone only, for a month. Other countries do not fall into that.
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Some German stores say they will have 32 GB version at the end of May
http://www.preissuchmaschine.de/in-Handy-ohne-Vertrag/Smartphone/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-I9300-32GB.html
Never really bothered me about internal storage if there is a Micro SD slot and that basically gives you infinite storage. Though personally I never filled up my GS2 storage of 16GB, I don't keep useless albums and just pick my songs so I only had like 2GB of songs. I find apps on the Android market to be really poor compared to what is on IOS so I barely played any games. When I do play games I just realise how **** the touch screen is for control and want proper buttons lol. With dropbox giving me 50GB free and having unlimited data on 3 I just put all my pirated Windows software on there lol.
I really don't care, I'm happy with the 16GB. Enough for apps.
As for movies/music/pictures, that's what I'm buying a 32GB Micro SDHC for. q
with the amount of flashing I do the 16gb one is fine for me as I only store my things on the external sd card
people always misleading by MicroSD extension.
You cannot increase internal storage by MicroSD. You will just add one more storage. But since most applications know only about one storage, they will continue use only internal storage. All games put their caches to /sdcard which is internal storage.
of course, it's still possible to hack games and change path /sdcard to /sdcard/external_sd. Some hacks allow to swap internal and external storages permanently.
This is android, and many tweaks possible. But if you plan to use phone as just regular user then you should know that internal storage won't be extended by adding MicroSD.
Actually, I use MicroSD in my SGSII just for media such as photos (made by SGSII camera), video, music. All applications related files are on internal storage. In this scenario, 16gb of internal storage for me is not enough, so i bought 32gb version. And i can easily swap microsd without loosing functionality, since all data are in internal.
A Galaxy S3 16GB is £500, the Galaxy S3 32GB is mostly going to be around £600.
You may as well go to Amazon and purchase the 64gb micro sd card from Sandisk class 10 for £55 and have 80GB. I mean seriously, 80GB is enough to be fair.
I guess the real question is how much faster is the nand/internal storage Vs Sandisk MicroSDXC?
Would the difference actually be noticeable in day to day use as a non dev
I don't mean off the cuff comments like its faster etc
I would like to see actual facts & figures.
I am going to buy 32GB version for storing Apps, games, videos and lots other things. Then after buying phone if i buy 16gb version, I feel annoying if i need more capacity, buying a memory card putting it in my phone. Its better to have 32gb version.
MrPhilo said:
You may as well go to Amazon and purchase the 64gb micro sd card from Sandisk class 10 for £55.
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Or £45 from Play.
funb0b said:
I guess the real question is how much faster is the nand/internal storage Vs Sandisk MicroSDXC?
Would the difference actually be noticeable in day to day use as a non dev
I don't mean off the cuff comments like its faster etc
I would like to see actual facts & figures.
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Following on from this, I found a nice little review of Sandisk's 64Gb MicroSDXC
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/04/01/review-sandisk-64gb-microsdxc-card-huge-capacity-meets-impressive-speeds/
Going for a full powerhouse,,Galaxy S3 launching here in India on 31st,,will be going for 64GB version w/o a doubt if available else 32GB & last and least preferable is 16GB
I'm getting 16GB with 32GB MicroSD card.
ASD007 said:
I've been wondering which GS3 to buy, the 16gb or 32gb model? I would usually go with the 16gb as there's the option of using an external sd card anyway, however, the phone performance is better with apps installed on internal memory and also there are still apps in the market that don't get transferred to the sd card. Another concern is the size of apps that keep growing everyday (I think now min. is 4gb) such as amazing games launched recently (e.g. Nova 3) and since this is a beast of a phone, and I'm planning to keep it for the next 2 yrs, I was wondering if 16gb would suffice?!!
Any thoughts from anyone would be appreciated.
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Actually performance on my SGS2 was better with my class 4 32gb Sandisk Card than the internal storage.
16gb is more than enough for apps,
Its more than suitable for the next 2 years
JD
I have a 64GB SDXC on the way from Hong Kong. I have preordered the SGS3 16GB version.
80GB will be enough for me since I don't use my phone to listen to music. I listen to music all the time, so I want to have a dedicated player for that. And I really love the sound quality of my rockboxed Sansa Clip Zip. For mega-ultra-super emergencies (mp3 player battery empty) I have a Subsonic music server setup so I can stream my music from my HTPC at home which is turned on 24/7, so that's my failsafe.
internal storage
I nearly bought a 16G one today, but then held my temptation as I wasn't sure about the requirements for this bigger phone. Some are right that apps are getting bigger and bigger. On the other hand I keep all the media on the card. On my s2 half of int storage is still free after a year, so unless someone advices that with this kind of usage and for apps etc 16G is not enough ; I guess I should go for the 16G. Any comments folks?

[Q] Will a 64GB microsd card work in this phone?

I am looking at picking this phone up, but I saw that the Galaxy S3 supports up to a 64GB microsd card. The Incredible 4G says it only supports a 32GB card, but the Rezound also say that and it will apparently work in there. So, what ya think? I ask because I keep a lot on my phone and 32GB + the 4GB of internal available (after 3GB for the OS & 1GB for apps) isn't going to cut it.
Cloud isn't an option for me, so if anyone knows please share your info. Thanks
Multimedia, Camera, and Conclusions
There's 5.21GB of free internal storage. That may not sound like much, but unlike any of the HTC One phones, the Incredible 4G LTE also comes with an empty microSD card slot underneath the battery cover, which lets you increase your storage significantly. My 32 and 64GB SanDisk microSD cards worked fine.
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From the PC World review.
full review here.
Seems like others haven't had any problems using a 64GB either, latest post at the time in this thread. http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-incredible-4g/549054-64gb-micro-sd-compatibility.html

[Q] To 16GB or not to 16GB, that is the question

I'm located in India where the Wifi-only 32GB Nexus 9 model is not available. The choice is either 32GB/LTE or 15GB/Wifi-only. I don't really want to pay extra for LTE which I don't plan to use. I'm wondering how the storage is partitioned on the 16GB model. I'm not planning to put too much in the way of videos and other media on the tablet (I'll use some Wifi connected storage device for media). I've got a Galaxy S2 with 16GB that has its storage partitioned such that while there is plenty of storage free the space for applications is filled up. Will I suffer from this with a 16GB variant of the Nexus 9?
Go with the 16gb
No point about paying $200 more for a 32gb
Note you will have 11.5gb free on the 16
I had a N7 2012 that was 16 gig and only time I ever filled up the storage was when I had a bunch of ROMs stored. Why I got the 16 gig N9 I couldn't see in spending that much for 16 gig of more storage. If I need more storage I can use an otg cable and connect an USB memory stick but over all 16 gig has served me well and I had the same concerns of would 16 gigs be enough when I was first looking at getting s tablet.
Sent from my Nexus 9 using Tapatalk
It depends on what you do with you tablet, knowing that if you already have music on Google Play Music you don't have to store it on the memory (i.e, works too with Drive etc.). Same for videos, where you can keep on using wifi local connection with your PC or NAS.
So unless you install 6 big games of 1+ GB or memory use, 16GB (actually 11,5 GB free) will be all enough, no need for more !
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I'm located in India where the Wifi-only 32GB Nexus 9 model is not available. The choice is either 32GB/LTE or 15GB/Wifi-only. I don't really want to pay extra for LTE which I don't plan to use. I'm wondering how the storage is partitioned on the 16GB model. I'm not planning to put too much in the way of videos and other media on the tablet (I'll use some Wifi connected storage device for media). I've got a Galaxy S2 with 16GB that has its storage partitioned such that while there is plenty of storage free the space for applications is filled up. Will I suffer from this with a 16GB variant of the Nexus 9?
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Hi, iamroddo...
My 16Gb WiFi-only Nexus 9 has about 11Gb of user space available... for user installed apps (games, utilities, widgets, tools, etc.) and content (documents, images, videos, music, etc.)
See screenshots below for outputs from my various diagnostic apps.
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On all of my Android devices, I tend to keep content (music, pics, documents, videos) stored either on a cloud based service (Box, DropBox, Google Drive, etc) or on an SD Card (as on my HTC One M8 phone). Obviously the SD Card isn't an option for the Nexus 9, as it doesn't have SD Card support. This frees up internal storage for the installation of apps... And also, because I do a lot of tinkering on my N9, I like to keep backups of software (eg. Titanium, NANDROIDs, etc) and they can consume a fair chunk of space!!!
Anyhow, I guess if you're not planning on using LTE, it does seem like a lot to pay for a feature you're not likely to use.
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One option, if you're looking for more (local) storage is to investigate something called OTG (On-the-Go) cables.
I remember reading about these a couple of years ago, when I got my original Nexus 7. It wasn't something I ever followed through, 'cos I had no need of of one. But essentially, and as I understand it, an OTG cable is a cable that you can connect a USB memory stick to the Nexus device via it's USB port. You'll also need software installed on the Nexus 9 to support it... I vaguely recall something called Nexus Media Importer being talked about at the time, as it didn't require the Nexus to be rooted..
Found the Google PlayStore link....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer
This article is also worth a read...
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/nexus-9-full-usb-otg-support
...in which it appears all that you need is ES File Explorer, to couple a memory stick to the N9, via an OTG cable.
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Anyway, just some thoughts and ideas, and perhaps something worth further invertigation and research.
Hope this of some use, and good luck in whatever you decide.
Rgrds,
Ged.

What sd card should I get?

I'm looking for either a 128gb or 256gb micro sd card and I want to have the same experience as using the internal storage for recording 4k/superslowmo and using apps on sd cards.
But I don't want to overspend either, I don't know up to what speeds/classes the phone can utilize.
There's cards like Samsung evo plus 128gb for 60euro, cards like lexar 1000x 128gb at 95 euro with UHS II Bus all kinds of things I got lost in the sea of classes and speeds.
What cards did you guys get and can anyone recommend me something?
I use sandisk ultra 200 gb and no problem @all with 4k
I got a samsung evo select 128gb and it is pretty damn snappy.
phazed said:
I got a samsung evo select 128gb and it is pretty damn snappy.
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I use that also.. I think... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CO48M36/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Up to 95MB/s Read and 90MB/s Write speed with Class 10 and U3 compatibility
that was the fastest card available when I bought it, nothing was faster with high storage. I see 256gb cards now but haven't really looked into any or the specs
I got Samsung Evo+ 128 GB UHS-I U3 (100 MB/s read, 90 MB/s write) for 55 euros (just google MB-MC128GA/EU - NL Samsung site for this card) . There is also 128 GB Adata Premier One UHS-II with read 275 MB/s, write 155 MB/s for ~150 USD. 256 GB version is for 289 USD (amazon) - dunno why, but in Czech it is for ~210$ ^^. In your case, I would go for Samsung
Got the Samsung one now
x10Mark said:
What cards did you guys get and can anyone recommend me something?
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I'd recommend the SanDisk Ultra 200 GB MicroSDXC UHS-I Memory Card as a good balance between capability, capacity and cost.
Regards,
Kevin
Sony 128GB UHS-I Class 10 SDXC
I purchased Sony 128GB UHS-I Class 10 SDXC Memory Card (SR-G1UY3A). Performance is simply awesome. It cost me Rs 5k.
I'm disappointed with XZP's sdcard access speeds, especially when the sdcard encryption is enabled. With my Samsung Evo+ 256Gb I got the following speeds:
About 7Mb/s read/write (with enabled encryption)
And about 70/40Mb/s (read/write) with disabled encryption.
What real speeds have you got?
100MB/s & 90MB/s read & write speeds Evo Select 45 USD http://a.co/3sYajyC
pribambas said:
I'm disappointed with XZP's sdcard access speeds, especially when the sdcard encryption is enabled. With my Samsung Evo+ 256Gb I got the following speeds:
About 7Mb/s read/write (with enabled encryption)
And about 70/40Mb/s (read/write) with disabled encryption.
What real speeds have you got?
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Is this still a problem? I prefer to always have my stuff encrypted and had this same issue, so slow it's almost unusable. Wondering if any of the updates or anything have fixed this issue or not.
reiriop said:
Is this still a problem? I prefer to always have my stuff encrypted and had this same issue, so slow it's almost unusable. Wondering if any of the updates or anything have fixed this issue or not.
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Yes, it's still a problem in Oreo. I have up to 10mb/s with enabled encryption.
pribambas said:
Yes, it's still a problem in Oreo. I have up to 10mb/s with enabled encryption.
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Have you tried any other micro SDs or just the Samsung Evo+? I was thinking about getting the 2017 one, Samsung Evo Plus 256GB, but it seems like it will probably be the same, I think the only difference between that 2016 version is 10MB/s on Read speed. Would be interesting to see if certain cards do better than others, I would like to know if a A1 rated card also has this problem.
Hey guys. Thanks for all the helpful input. What would you say is the primary benefit of the additional storage of a 128GB to 256GB SD Card? I feel like on other phones without expandable memory, I never really reach capacity on 64GB models. So I probably used more cloud storage out of necessity and just got used to it. What are you guys using all this glorious storage for?
thesticks00 said:
Hey guys. Thanks for all the helpful input. What would you say is the primary benefit of the additional storage of a 128GB to 256GB SD Card? I feel like on other phones without expandable memory, I never really reach capacity on 64GB models. So I probably used more cloud storage out of necessity and just got used to it. What are you guys using all this glorious storage for?
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4k por... Oops I mean scientific ebooks etc.
All jokes aside... Having that bit of extra storage can give you the freedom to record, capture and download as you please!
Especially for people like me who hardly use online storage. I have the Samsung Evo Plus 256gb (2017 version) and I have so many 4k HDR10 movies and documentaries stored on it. I also dont have to worry about running out of space by constantly shooting 4k videos.
Having higher storage takes away all the limitations of having to transfer your files whenever you need to download new material.
I'm getting 72mb/read and 40mb/write even though the Micro SD card is capable of achieving higher speeds. This is due to the phone and I hope that android will find a way around this with upcoming updates, unless it's a hardware issue of course.
These speeds are more than enough for regular everyday use as I haven't faced any issues with reading/writing colossal files.
Hope this helps
SNOOPLAYAN said:
4k por... Oops I mean scientific ebooks etc.
All jokes aside... Having that bit of extra storage can give you the freedom to record, capture and download as you please!
Especially for people like me who hardly use online storage. I have the Samsung Evo Plus 256gb (2017 version) and I have so many 4k HDR10 movies and documentaries stored on it. I also dont have to worry about running out of space by constantly shooting 4k videos.
Having higher storage takes away all the limitations of having to transfer your files whenever you need to download new material.
I'm getting 72mb/read and 40mb/write even though the Micro SD card is capable of achieving higher speeds. This is due to the phone and I hope that android will find a way around this with upcoming updates, unless it's a hardware issue of course.
These speeds are more than enough for regular everyday use as I haven't faced any issues with reading/writing colossal files.
Hope this helps
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You had me at 4k por... LOL. But seriously, I have never even seen 4K video let alone shot in 4K, so I am looking forward to checking it out on this glorious screen. Still think I may only opt for 200GB unless I find a really good deal (I will check the model you listed above). Doubt I will be able to even fill that but who knows. LOL. Thanks again.
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...I'm getting 72mb/read and 40mb/write...
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Just to verify, you don't have encryption enabled for the microSD card correct?
reiriop said:
Just to verify, you don't have encryption enabled for the microSD card correct?
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Yes that is correct. My internal storage is encrypted and the micro sd card isn't.
I have a toshiba sd card 128 bought on alyexprees for 42 euro its working beautiful even in 4k whit evo plus i have some problems in my other phones and 360 camera(also the 128 version.) and i had to give it to my wife she has an samsung phone and not really a heavy user. Even in speed toshiba has beeten samsung .
Original TOSHIBA 128GB SDXC Micro SD
If you want i will search the link and send over
Hey guys. Can someone please give me their thoughts on the MicroSD card linked below? Thinking of buying but not sure I need 256GB and the price is pretty reasonable on this 200GB. Thoughts?
https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-200GB-Micro-SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A/dp/B00V62XBQQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1512495531&sr=1-4&keywords=256gb+micro+sd+card&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A13203835011

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