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I just got my Radar in the mail today and I have to say, my first impressions are very good. I'm coming from Android so when I saw the kind of dated specs for this phone, I was a little hesitant. But just like the all the reviews say, this phone is buttery smooth with plenty of power. You can't judge this phone against Android cause it's two different OS's. Windows doesn't need the horsepower that Android needs and the software integration with the hardware is tight and beautiful.
Love the hardware as well. Coming from a Galaxy S, I was happy with the performance but the phone was just too cheap and plasticy for me to ever REALLY love it's looks. The weight and unibody construction on this phone is awesome and I love it.
The unremovable battery might have been a deal breaker for me with a high end Android phone as I had an extra battery for my Galaxy S. But all the reviews said this phone gets well over a day of with moderate use so I'm not sweating that anymore.
NO LIKE::: There's not much I don't like and it's gonna take me a little longer than a few hours to get used to this phone. However, there is one thing about this OS that is bothering me. Font size!! Lets start with the browser....No setting in the browser to make the webpage larger like in android. And when you try to zoom in, the text doesn't re-flow. Also, font size in the people section like in your twitter feed is small as well. I don't have the best eyes but they're already starting to hurt. This complaint is pretty minor but in a way, it's major as well. If you get tired of using certain features on your phone cause it makes your eyes hurt, then that's kinda of a problem.
Overall though, love this phone and I'm happy with the purchase.
Oh and one more thing to add. The call quality isn't very good at all.
The text reflows if you double tap. It's by design.
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The text reflows if you double tap. It's by design.
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Yes but only a little bit. The text still isn't large enough for me to comfortably read, at least for a long time. I'm talking about pinching and zooming as close as you want and the words re-wrap to fit the screen like in Android, so you don't have to scroll back and forth. Other than that, I'm happy with the browser. I think it's a smoother experience on WP7.
And honestly, my complaint above about small font throughout the OS is starting to get to me even more. The things I do most on a phone are taking in info, like browsing my favorite sites, Twitter, Facebook, and RSS. And all these processes hurt my eyes after a while. Example, look at the Facebook app. The font is small cause the top of the screen is taken up by FACEBOOK and then the tittle of the page like MOST RECENT. I actually love the facebook app, it's just the small font I hate. I wish I had a bigger phone cause I think it would be Ok if it was a 4.3 inch screen or so.
In the end, I hate to say it cause I love this OS but I think i'm gonna sell this phone. I'll just have to wait until a bigger phone comes out or Microsoft makes it an option to make the font bigger everywhere. It sucks cause this OS is so much more beautiful and cohesive than anything else. I'm a big fan, but my eyes aren't letting me enjoy the experience. I hope to be back to WP7 soon.
seanp666 htc titan has a very big screen. try that.
sala91 said:
seanp666 htc titan has a very big screen. try that.
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text wouldnt be any better oneit since the pexel density is so low.. reviewers said they had to zoom in to see most stuff on browser clear, a shame =/
stratax i dissagree. to me titan is so big i dont zoom anything there
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stratax i dissagree. to me titan is so big i dont zoom anything there
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Thats weird, couple reviews i saw said it was pixelated when you looked closely and text wasnt that clear
stratax said:
Thats weird, couple reviews i saw said it was pixelated when you looked closely and text wasnt that clear
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For reference, it has a higher PPI than an iPhone 3GS. So...
jeremyshaw said:
For reference, it has a higher PPI than an iPhone 3GS. So...
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and that screen was tiny haha. here is what everyone is saying.
"The HTC Titan is quite large thanks to its 4.7-inch display. We were slightly disappointed to find that the resolution for this LCD is standard WVGA–480 x 800 pixels. This means the dots per inch (dpi) specification will be quite low, and users may be able to make out individual pixels in some situations, which can be unpleasant when reading text. However, it should make viewing videos a joy, especially when sharing the screen with friends."
I would love to check out the phone myself. but dont have $600 to put into one lol.
even if you can see things fine.. why would they put qHD on the sensation and then 720p display on the rezound, etc. but not the titan when it has a even BIGGER screen? that just confuses me xD maybe it has something to do with WP7.
i just got one radar for my wife.... i like the size and the aluminium body.. the camera is good, and takes panorama shots as well..
smoother then my HD7...
I'm coming from the hd7 also. And I find the size of the radar and its screen to be to annoying. Font size is an issue for me as well. The plus? WiFi tethering.
So, is the tethering free? It was so easy to activate and use, but I don't want any surprise charges.
AdamBlue said:
So, is the tethering free? It was so easy to activate and use, but I don't want any surprise charges.
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Depends entirely on your carrier.
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sweet
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drewmaloy said:
I'm coming from the hd7 also. And I find the size of the radar and its screen to be to annoying. Font size is an issue for me as well. The plus? WiFi tethering.
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and the camera. The camera is orders of magnitude better than the HD7's.
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and that screen was tiny haha. here is what everyone is saying.
"The HTC Titan is quite large thanks to its 4.7-inch display. We were slightly disappointed to find that the resolution for this LCD is standard WVGA–480 x 800 pixels. This means the dots per inch (dpi) specification will be quite low, and users may be able to make out individual pixels in some situations, which can be unpleasant when reading text. However, it should make viewing videos a joy, especially when sharing the screen with friends."
I would love to check out the phone myself. but dont have $600 to put into one lol.
even if you can see things fine.. why would they put qHD on the sensation and then 720p display on the rezound, etc. but not the titan when it has a even BIGGER screen? that just confuses me xD maybe it has something to do with WP7.
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Every negative comment I have heard about the Titan's screen is from people who don't actually own it or have used it and are just speculating. I'll search for more reviews (since I plan to buy the Titan Friday) and see if I can find anything else out.
here are my first impressions of this nice device (in german)
But I've got a question by the way? Is it normal that the alphabetical jumplist in apps menu is missing?
No. That should be there...odd.
According to :
http://www.reddit.com/r/wp7/comments/l9cet/quick_question_about_icon_in_app_jump_list/
You get the letters in the app list when you have more than 45 applications.
Just off the wall, way-out, everything you could ever want in a personal device.
I'm seriously excited about the PS Vita, but it's not something I could ever talk on, use as auto navigation or take to the can at work. That's what my phone's for.
If I were to dictate my dream phone to an HTC, Acer, Moto or Samsung, it'd go something like:
3D 1080p, 4.7", SAMOLED screen (no god damned pentile, stop it with that ****, it's nothing more than a cost-cutting measure that makes manufacturers look cheap and lazy... if Rezound can have a nice 720p screen, so can the flagship Nexus device, Samsung.)
full keyboard (slider) with dedicated gaming key arrangement (raised direction and action buttons on keyboard with alternate markings. possibly pop-up, slide-out or integrated analog nubs)
completely unlocked and open-source (HAL/drivers, bootloader, etc)
Steam (I said way-out) Steam needs to have more platforms, WITH GAMES for those platforms, anyway. An app to check on sales and friends is not Steam.
CPU/GPU/Memory? something ridiculous... doesn't really matter here.
What are the things you'd go ape**** over in a phone?
A 4.4 inch screen with ics, a really polished and good looking on screen keyboard. A phone as thin as a Galaxy S II, with the battery life that could go for days without charge. A battery that charges in ten minutes. 3d samoled plus display with full 720p HD support. Full AOSP software like on a nexus, but with touchwiz swipe gestures for contacts (swipe right to call and left to text). Also have touchwiz toggles in notification bar (that can be changed). The htc quick settings (in notification panel) and the draw on lockscreen feature from cyanogenmod.
HTC, quadcore 2.5ghz, 1080p 5in 4:3 - yeah I know... 1080p is supposed to be 16:9 but I hate that lmao -screen, slide-out qwerty keyboard (like the one on the sidekick 3,best keyboard ever miss that thing), everything open source with real, functioning code freely available . Three days minimum battery life (5000mah would suffice though), one Micro USB, one full size USB, full size HDMI port, a dock that turns it into a Google chromebook, kinda like what the OG Atrix tried only better. Vanilla Android, of course.
I think that covers it
Oh, and with a thickness no greater then 8mm.
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You know what, a public git or svn that HTC actually uses would be awesome too. No more worrying about source code then!
If we are going WAY out. I want a "phone" that is imbedded into my head, pucks up on my body language. Like if i make a camera frame gesture with my hands, if will take a pic of what I see, what my eyes are focusing on. And adjust my eyes depending on how dark or bright I want it to be.
Imagine racing games, whetr it will skew your equilibrium as you take corners to give you that feeling of G forces.
While asleep, if you have an emergency call. It Will tap into your sub conscience dreams and allow you to take the call right there.... In the dream.
....or is that "too" out there?
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If we are going WAY out. I want a "phone" that is imbedded into my head, pucks up on my body language. Like if i make a camera frame gesture with my hands, if will take a pic of what I see, what my eyes are focusing on. And adjust my eyes depending on how dark or bright I want it to be.
Imagine racing games, whetr it will skew your equilibrium as you take corners to give you that feeling of G forces.
While asleep, if you have an emergency call. It Will tap into your sub conscience dreams and allow you to take the call right there.... In the dream.
....or is that "too" out there?
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That would be amazing
I would like a phone with all the above, plus I want it to make me breakfast and massage me while I fall asleep.
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I would like a phone with all the above, plus I want it to make me breakfast and massage me while I fall asleep.
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Haha, that's "almost" the question I shout (in a sense) when someone tells me the price of an item I think is WAY too much to be spending on such an item.
Salesman: "This spoon is only $94"
me: "Jesus!.. for a spoon?!.. it better jerk me off and feed me sammiches for that price!"
See, basically the same thing.
This.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw2yiOhsFsc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
When this comes out, I'm selling my house and kids for it.
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I would like a phone with all the above, plus I want it to make me breakfast and massage me while I fall asleep.
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Damn that's not enough!!!! It has to do more!!!!
Funny thing is, all these "dreams" will be out dated in 2-3 years.
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Its in my hands now, only I wish it had a 6 inch screen
From the Beast : Galaxy Note
id just be happy with a battery that lasted a week on one charge no matter how much i used it...
I also want a re sizeable screen that can be bent like the Sony one that's on YouTube. dual cameras on front and back with flash.
I'd like that Mozilla Seabird...like yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG3tLxEQEdg
1cm tick
1200x700 3d screen
Dragontrail glass
metal(chrome)housing
3.00Ghz Quadcore
500mb of Gpu
3Gigs of ram
32gb internal memory
5000mah slim, not removable battery
10mp dual (3d) camera
4mp front camera
hdmi charge headphones outputs
memory stick up to 64gigs
I just want an iPhone 6 when everyone else still has the iPhone 5 so I can be cooler than them.
One that can build me an island, and fly me there, and print money of course.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
HTC pre s-off and rooted device with 4.7" 1080P screen. 3ghz quad core processor
12 mp camera, Switchable between sense and AOSP at will. (DREAM) dual bootable windows 8 and ICS. 100% source code and drivers released =D
also a GPU capable of 1080p output with desktop quality graphics
I would like a evo3d gsm
where chad was still developing the kernel for us...
pitty show-p was allowed to **** all over his work without proof
and without an apology
TruBlack reality display with Bravia engine 20MP camera with Exmor R, 2GHz quad core, 4.3 inch screen, but still be only 8mm thin haha. Oh and 4D and finger print unlock LOL.
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Hey guys, as we know, the very first batch of any device likely will have some flaws. Hopefully this won't happen to the nexus 10. Anyway, Im a very picky consumer so I have to ensure my device is perfect. So I will list some of the things we need to check when the item arrives. feel free to give tips etc..
1/ Check the screen to see there are any dead pixels/ discolored area/ uneven white screen/ yellow or pink spots
2/ Light bleed
3/ any scratch on the body
4/Buttons are all good.
5/ Speakers
All I can think of so far..
also would want to check if the cameras, radios, ports, battery and other such components work properly, along with checking along the seams of the tablet to make sure it is solidly put together.
Microscope... check EVERY pixel.
I also have a few questions. It has to deal with the snap on cover if anyone got those (if they are out). When you unfold the cover does the screen light up like the iPad does with its smart cover. And also can the cover be used as a stand or does it just fall over? And how bad is the lag on Chrome compared to anyone who has used Safari on an iPad. Thanks. I'm hoping to switch from my ipad to the nexus 10!
Add couple more
1. Check GPS
2. Pixel check can be done with https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ossibussoftware.deadpixeltest&hl=en
Will Google even replaces screens with a couple dead pixels?
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duarian said:
Will Google even replaces screens with a couple dead pixels?
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Well in my case they'd be replacing the screen whether they intended to or not. If I had to, I'd just order a new one, then send the old one back in its place and say I changed my mind. And that just if they didn't want to exchange a clearly defective product. Up to them, but either way I'm going to make it right for myself in the end :good:
With 2560x1600 x3 sub-pixels (=12.288.000 pixels) you will very likely not get a sample without a single defective sub-pixel. Doesn't really matter either, a stuck sub-pixel at 300 DPI resolution is so small that it will be hard to find even if you "know" where it is.
My tab 10.1 and GS3 first batch were flawless. I expect a pretty close to perfect initial batch here as well. This isn't Asus or HTC.
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My tab 10.1 and GS3 first batch were flawless. I expect a pretty close to perfect initial batch here as well. This isn't Asus or HTC.
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Bam !
Good point !
Samsung has an excellent track record!
Nothing is for sure but every samsung product ive ever had has been perfect!
From my Note 2
It's not only about the company behind the product, it's also about math/probability.
Hint: Try counting the sub-pixels on the Galaxy 10.1 or S3 and compare to the N10.
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My tab 10.1 and GS3 first batch were flawless. I expect a pretty close to perfect initial batch here as well. This isn't Asus or HTC.
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not really...I guess it's a matter of luck. I bought my S3 in june and after 3 replacements, I got the satisfying one.
One thing concerns me the most is the screen. It's true that it's hard to get a screen without any dead pixels considering the huge amount of pixels. well, I really hope this won't happen since if I ever find out just one single dead pixel, it would turn me off really bad even if I normally can't see it. But you know, it is there... haha
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not really...I guess it's a matter of luck. I bought my S3 in june and after 3 replacements, I got the satisfying one.
One thing concerns me the most is the screen. It's true that it's hard to get a screen without any dead pixels considering the huge amount of pixels. well, I really hope this won't happen since if I ever find out just one single dead pixel, it would turn me off really bad even if I normally can't see it. But you know, it is there... haha
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I forgot to include the legendary GS2 as another first batch flawless device. It might be about luck sometimes but generally you can deduce when it is safe to buy a first batch.
I use two methods that I feel pretty good about.
One, like I said, my GS2, tab 10.1, and GS3 were all flawless first batches for me. I realize that using just myself as a sample size is pretty shady statistically but if you look at the posts of complaints of the GS3 in May/June, they are far less than most devices.
Two, we know for a fact that Samsung is not only a manufacturer, but one of the if not the best manufacturer. Sure HTC and Apple are moving away from them, but it is not because of the quality. People trust their factories and manufacturing processes so unless the Nexus 10 uses some fancy new manufacturing process, Samsung already has the wisdom and experience and chances are, they won't need to make many changes to the manufacturing process like others might.
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It's not only about the company behind the product, it's also about math/probability.
Hint: Try counting the sub-pixels on the Galaxy 10.1 or S3 and compare to the N10.
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I'm not so sure we should expect the majority of units to have dead pixels. I deal a lot with high resolution 2560x1600 computer monitors and very rarely do I encounter dead/stuck pixels. You're right that they would be harder to notice because of the high pixel density, but I'll use pixel checker and send it back if there's an issue. Just because it's a smaller screen doesn't mathematically necessitate pixel issues. The 13in retina macbook pro has almost the same pixel density and of the few I've tested, none have any pixel issues.
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I'm not so sure we should expect the majority of units to have dead pixels. I deal a lot with high resolution 2560x1600 computer monitors and very rarely do I encounter dead/stuck pixels. You're right that they would be harder to notice because of the high pixel density, but I'll use pixel checker and send it back if there's an issue. Just because it's a smaller screen doesn't mathematically necessitate pixel issues. The 13in retina macbook pro has almost the same pixel density and of the few I've tested, none have any pixel issues.
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Are you really spending maybe 15-30 minutes (if that's enough) to check each display in a dark room with dark-adapted eyes?
I'm asking that because as an example my Nexus 7 has 1 stuck blue sub-pixel almost smack in the middle of the screen, I know where it is and I still need about 10-20 seconds in a dark room with a (mostly) black screen to find it again - in daylight it's just plainly impossible to locate it. On a Retina/N10/WQXGA display this will be even harder.
It's my personal opinion that a lot of the people posting here how their displays are perfect with zero errors just never see any of their stuck/dark sub-pixels. They're really that hard to find unless you have bad luck and get a completely broken pixel or a cluster of broken sub-pixels in close proximity.
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Are you really spending maybe 15-30 minutes (if that's enough) to check each display in a dark room with dark-adapted eyes?
I'm asking that because as an example my Nexus 7 has 1 stuck blue sub-pixel almost smack in the middle of the screen, I know where it is and I still need about 10-20 seconds in a dark room with a (mostly) black screen to find it again - in daylight it's just plainly impossible to locate it. On a Retina/N10/WQXGA display this will be even harder.
It's my personal opinion that a lot of the people posting here how their displays are perfect with zero errors just never see any of their stuck/dark sub-pixels. They're really that hard to find unless you have bad luck and get a completely broken pixel or a cluster of broken sub-pixels in close proximity.
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first thing I do is go to my closet and turn the brightness all the way up... lol I can not live with dead pixels..
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first thing I do is go to my closet and turn the brightness all the way up... lol I can not live with dead pixels..
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Whatever brings more happiness into your live ...
My personal view on sub-pixel errors is: if I have to search for them to see them ... I don't really care about them.
A full stuck/dark pixel (or anything that catches the eye) is a reason to send the device back though, no doubt about that.
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first thing I do is go to my closet and turn the brightness all the way up... lol I can not live with dead pixels..
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I thought I was a bit wierd doing this to test for Light Bleed! lol I feel slightly better now!
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first thing I do is go to my closet and turn the brightness all the way up... lol I can not live with dead pixels..
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I tend to do that anyway for light bleed... That's my worry. My Nexus 7 has pretty bad light bleed, and i'm okay with that because it's a cheap tablet, but I won't be happy if the Nexus 10 has bleed like that one. I can deal with a minor amount around the edges, but it's really annoying if it extends to the center of the screen, etc.
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With 2560x1600 x3 sub-pixels (=12.288.000 pixels) you will very likely not get a sample without a single defective sub-pixel. Doesn't really matter either, a stuck sub-pixel at 300 DPI resolution is so small that it will be hard to find even if you "know" where it is.
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Not really true. My monitor is 2560x1440 and I promise you, there are no dead pixels. Granted it's 27", and the Nexus is only 10", it may be a little harder to see, but throw up solid color backgrounds and you will probably see it.
So I was finally able to get my hands on the device late last night. First impression was what I had heard from the reviews, the phone is the best android phone ever built from a hardware perspective, and on par with the iPhone 5. What was sort of disappointing is I was expecting the One to beat the iPhone 5 in terms of hardware build quality, but it just felt on the same level as the iPhone 5.
Screen...was nice. My self hype got me to expect to be blown away by the 1080p Super LCD 3, but honestly it is just a sharp screen that is on par with the (sorry for this) iPhone 5. I am in no way saying the screen is bad, it is excellent. However the full 1080p vs full 720p on a phone is hardly noticeable, which was a bummer seeing that it was one of the highlighted specs on the phone. One gripe I had about my screen was that when it was off and I was in broad daylight, I could see blueish grid lines on the phone. I'm not sure if this is a defect that would rid itself after a replacement or just something that you can expect to see. But I have never seen it before and it bothers me.
Speakers! AWESOME. Best sound on a mobile device period. HTC got this one right and makes videos/gaming on with phone a pleasure. Plenty loud too. 10/10 on the speakers.
UI was blazing fast, however my return to Sense since HTC One X wasn't that great. While it is much faster, it also seems more complex. Getting around the phone was a bit confusing for a while with the funky menu style and Blinkfeed defaulted as the home screen. Plus only 2 capacity buttons is wacky! But I expect that to be fixed up once those custom ROMs start rolling out ready to be flashed.
Camera was good for my standards. I honestly don't take a lot of pictures, but from the shots I took they looked great. Plus with only 4 MP they take up less space on the memory which is good. I didn't try the Zoey feature out, seems like a gimmick to me, but what do I know??
Now performance...this is what disappointed me to the point that I returned it early this afternoon. While the UI is blazing fast and my everyday use apps ran pretty well, there were some games that lagged considerably when playing them. The game I noticed this first was Hill Climb Racer. This was the first eye opener since this game runs flawlessly with no lag at all on my Galaxy Note 2 and iPhone 5, but on the One it seemed to stutter and have difficult keeping up with the side scrolling (maybe its an app issue and needs an update). Call me picky but I am a big Hill Climb player so that drove me nuts. So I would say overall performance was good, but should be way better considering its the biggest baddest phone on the market now.
So I paid a visit to my local AT&T store to see about the blueish grid appearance on the screen, but the sales rep told me that was a normal finding (I am still skeptical). Then I went over to the demo unit and installed Hill Climb to see if maybe the stutter was a screen issue on my phone, but sure enough the same lag was present on the store unit. I ultimately decided to part ways with it and return it for a refund. This way I can see if I like the black when it becomes available, or just wait until the next big thing.
How is everyone else's experience with the One? Is the blue grid noticeable on your phones? And do you notice any lag in games like Hill Climb?
Its because the apps aka games are not optimized yet for the s600 most likely. Probably just wait for app developers to optimize it.
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Awesome. Returned a newly release device because a game hasn't been optimized for it. Forward thinker..
How is a screen on par with the iPhone 5, but slightly sharper? Apple lovers: oooh retina ZOMG!!! Android device with higher PPI: hardly noticeable, lol.
Unfortunately that is the price that is paid for latest and greatest hardware. Same problems I had last year with the S3. You are just going to have to wait for developers to catch up with the S600 cpu.
Also unfortunately for you you were comparing to the Note 2 which I feel has the best software compatibility of any highend phone released the past 6 months. Again that's most likely because the hardware it uses was released almost a year ago in the S3 international.
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oneinfour said:
So I was finally able to get my hands on the device late last night. First impression was what I had heard from the reviews, the phone is the best android phone ever built from a hardware perspective, and on par with the iPhone 5. What was sort of disappointing is I was expecting the One to beat the iPhone 5 in terms of hardware build quality, but it just felt on the same level as the iPhone 5.
Screen...was nice. My self hype got me to expect to be blown away by the 1080p Super LCD 3, but honestly it is just a sharp screen that is on par with the (sorry for this) iPhone 5. I am in no way saying the screen is bad, it is excellent. However the full 1080p vs full 720p on a phone is hardly noticeable, which was a bummer seeing that it was one of the highlighted specs on the phone. One gripe I had about my screen was that when it was off and I was in broad daylight, I could see blueish grid lines on the phone. I'm not sure if this is a defect that would rid itself after a replacement or just something that you can expect to see. But I have never seen it before and it bothers me.
Speakers! AWESOME. Best sound on a mobile device period. HTC got this one right and makes videos/gaming on with phone a pleasure. Plenty loud too. 10/10 on the speakers.
UI was blazing fast, however my return to Sense since HTC One X wasn't that great. While it is much faster, it also seems more complex. Getting around the phone was a bit confusing for a while with the funky menu style and Blinkfeed defaulted as the home screen. Plus only 2 capacity buttons is wacky! But I expect that to be fixed up once those custom ROMs start rolling out ready to be flashed.
Camera was good for my standards. I honestly don't take a lot of pictures, but from the shots I took they looked great. Plus with only 4 MP they take up less space on the memory which is good. I didn't try the Zoey feature out, seems like a gimmick to me, but what do I know??
Now performance...this is what disappointed me to the point that I returned it early this afternoon. While the UI is blazing fast and my everyday use apps ran pretty well, there were some games that lagged considerably when playing them. The game I noticed this first was Hill Climb Racer. This was the first eye opener since this game runs flawlessly with no lag at all on my Galaxy Note 2 and iPhone 5, but on the One it seemed to stutter and have difficult keeping up with the side scrolling (maybe its an app issue and needs an update). Call me picky but I am a big Hill Climb player so that drove me nuts. So I would say overall performance was good, but should be way better considering its the biggest baddest phone on the market now.
So I paid a visit to my local AT&T store to see about the blueish grid appearance on the screen, but the sales rep told me that was a normal finding (I am still skeptical). Then I went over to the demo unit and installed Hill Climb to see if maybe the stutter was a screen issue on my phone, but sure enough the same lag was present on the store unit. I ultimately decided to part ways with it and return it for a refund. This way I can see if I like the black when it becomes available, or just wait until the next big thing.
How is everyone else's experience with the One? Is the blue grid noticeable on your phones? And do you notice any lag in games like Hill Climb?
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It's funny how you would return a phone due to the app not being optimized, it's difficult to have optimized for every device/manufacturer so your best bet is getting an iPhone since it won't have that problem.
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I had the blue grid thingy on my droid 3 as well. I just went outside and checked and yes I can see it while the screen is off if I concentrate. I thought it was just a thing with LCD screens. Doesn't annoy me any, and of course it's not visible with the screen on. only game I've tried was dead trigger, and it ran flawlessly, so I'm pleased. I stopped noticing performance increases after the OMAP4 to snapdragon s4 jump though, that was the last big one for me.
Yup, apps just aren't optimized for the 600 yet. If you want an example of that, download Dolphin Browser. Incredibly smooth on my One XL, but runs terribly on the One.
I think you made a poor choice in returning it just because some apps run poorly, but I suppose it's your call.
jamesklyne said:
Awesome. Returned a newly release device because a game hasn't been optimized for it. Forward thinker..
How is a screen on par with the iPhone 5, but slightly sharper? Apple lovers: oooh retina ZOMG!!! Android device with higher PPI: hardly noticeable, lol.
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I'm pretty sure Apple hit the sweet spot for sharpness, which is probably why it's hardly noticeable.
Cryosx said:
I'm pretty sure Apple hit the sweet spot for sharpness, which is probably why it's hardly noticeable.
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I'll argue that. Whereas the iPhone 5's display is amazing, when I walked into AT&T and saw the waterfall or stream picture on it [HTC One] (babbling brooke? lol) I definitely saw the difference.
jamesklyne said:
Awesome. Returned a newly release device because a game hasn't been optimized for it. Forward thinker..
How is a screen on par with the iPhone 5, but slightly sharper? Apple lovers: oooh retina ZOMG!!! Android device with higher PPI: hardly noticeable, lol.
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When you are the first company on the market to release a screen that has a high enough pixel density that the eye can't distinguish the pixels, the public is going to notice the drastic change. My point was that since most phones now have high enough pixel density where the eye can't see the pixels, a 400+ PPI on a phone screen doesn't produce the same "WOW" factor that the iPhone introduced when the retina display several years ago, which was disappointing since I was excited about the screen about the HTC One.
eddieruiz001 said:
It's funny how you would return a phone due to the app not being optimized, it's difficult to have optimized for every device/manufacturer so your best bet is getting an iPhone since it won't have that problem.
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That wasn't the only factor going into the return. The blue grid when the screen is off bothered me, the wacky interface of sense 5 bothered me. I figured it might be best to hold off for a month or two and wait for later batches to come out. That way most apps will be optimized and maybe the screen grid will be gone, and I will be able to get it in black. Or there will be an even better phone out. Who knows!
oneinfour said:
When you are the first company on the market to release a screen that has a high enough pixel density that the eye can't distinguish the pixels, the public is going to notice the drastic change. My point was that since most phones now have high enough pixel density where the eye can't see the pixels, a 400+ PPI on a phone screen doesn't produce the same "WOW" factor that the iPhone introduced when the retina display several years ago, which was disappointing since I was excited about the screen about the HTC One.
That wasn't the only factor going into the return. The blue grid when the screen is off bothered me, the wacky interface of sense 5 bothered me. I figured it might be best to hold off for a month or two and wait for later batches to come out. That way most apps will be optimized and maybe the screen grid will be gone, and I will be able to get it in black. Or there will be an even better phone out. Who knows!
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Apple's NON HD Retina Iphone 5 screen isn't that great.
A 1080p 4.7 inch display, hmm now that's better.
But seriously, if your eyes can't tell the difference, doesn't mean we all have poor eyes
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Apple's NON HD Retina Iphone 5 screen isn't that great.
A 1080p 4.7 inch display, hmm now that's better.
But seriously, if your eyes can't tell the difference, doesn't mean we all have poor eyes
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Again, I am not trying to say there isn't a difference, there is. My point is that the difference isn't as impressive the jump in pixel density that started in 2010. Geez, I should probably stop using "Apple" or "iPhone" in my posts since it seems to cause people to get unnecessarily defensive.
Dude u like iPhone better just admitted it lol
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The "blue grid" is the digitizer for the capacitive touchscreen. It is normal, and almost all phones have this, except for the Optimus G, Nexus 4, and iPhone 5 which use in-cell touch sensing (which requires much more cooperation with the display manufacturer and might not be possible yet on such a high-density display).
See here:
http://anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/15
In addition to just the air-adhesive interfaces introducing thickness and unavoidable Fresnel reflections, there’s also the traces from transparent conductors in the digitizer as well to think about. At present that material is Indium Tin Oxide (ITO), which is one of very few known transparent conductors and used inside every LCD. Because Indium is a relatively expensive rare earth metal, ITO traces are only laid down where they need to be on top of and below the glass substrate (for both transmit and receive layers of the digitizer), and the areas inbetween those traces are then filled with an index-matching space fill material to diminish their visibility. How well this space fill is done and how close the index is to ITO’s is one of the quality metrics of a digitizer to begin with, and often these rows and columns are visible under direct illumination either outdoors or with good eyes indoors.
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Jeez, you couldnt have atleast used it over the weekend? Why didnt you just try a demo in the store and see if your favorite games work good on it or not?
Got mine from bestbuy this morning. I have 14 days to let this phone wow me so that I don't return it for the S4. So far I love the phone. Can't keep my hands off it so I don't know about battery life. The only issue I have is the button layout. I quickly replaced the stock launcher with nova.
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I'm sorry that you returned an amazing phone because of a game. I'll be getting one soon but I don't play games much so hopefully my experience is as good as yours was minus the game.
Dazog said:
Apple's NON HD Retina Iphone 5 screen isn't that great.
A 1080p 4.7 inch display, hmm now that's better.
But seriously, if your eyes can't tell the difference, doesn't mean we all have poor eyes
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I'd honestly choose a 720p 4.7 inch display over a 1080p 4.7 if it meant better battery life and gaming performance.
Dazog said:
Apple's NON HD Retina Iphone 5 screen isn't that great.
A 1080p 4.7 inch display, hmm now that's better.
But seriously, if your eyes can't tell the difference, doesn't mean we all have poor eyes
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There is more to a display than PPI.
The iPhone 5 still has incredible color reproduction and viewing angles, along with in-cell touch and no gap between glass and display.
jamesklyne said:
Awesome. Returned a newly release device because a game hasn't been optimized for it. Forward thinker..
How is a screen on par with the iPhone 5, but slightly sharper? Apple lovers: oooh retina ZOMG!!! Android device with higher PPI: hardly noticeable, lol.
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I picked mine up yesterday and I've switched from an iPhone 5. The screen is much better than the iPhone 5 and the build quality of mine is just as good and I would argue better with the design of the front screen.
ANYONE who returns this within 1-3 days hasn't given it a proper consideration. Ignore them.
Since I picked it up yesterday, many things have gone from "Not sure about this" to "This is great". The keyboard layout (switched to Swiftkey), the size, the app tray, and other areas take time to adjust to after half a DECADE+ of iOS use.
I have enjoyed every iPhone and advocated it strongly to my friends and family and I'm here to say that I am sure I will be keeping the HTC One as an iPhone replacement. Other people can argue which is better, but I wanted something innovative and different for the term cost of my upgrades.
As far as the camera goes, it won't take as good of a picture with a quick point and click in most circumstances but it is very powerful if you learn to use it properly and post edit down the captured light (lots) to a solid photo. It is a great camera, but I wouldn't say better...just different.
G5 specifications
Release G5
Any info on front camera specs ?
We know that we've got a wide angle lens on the back on the phone...why not. Do we have one one the front lens ? it is the one that really needs one ! (yeah, i've short arms ), What about the aperture ?
http://m.androidcentral.com/lg-g5-h...12a&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook
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The screen goes from 5.5 to 5.3 and the battery goes from 3000 mAh to 2800 mAh. (G4 compared to G5)
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Well, It's a G5 mac with 2.3GHz processor, 512MB memory (consisting of 2 x 256 chips), 250GB hard drive and after that Yahoo has been unable to display the data as it can only display max 40 characters but the 16x would refer to the cd/dvd drive. It may be a combo drive or super drive, super drive being able to burn dvd's as well as cd's, combo drive can read and burn cd's but only read, not burn, dvd's. The other information likely cut off may refer to the OS installed - 10.4 is Tiger, 10.5 is Leopard.
Does lg g5 has FM radio?
Fuadcim said:
Does lg g5 has FM radio?
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Nope, ditched it.
Fuadcim said:
Does lg g5 has FM radio?
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mister09 said:
Nope, ditched it.
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yes it has FM Radio
How about a Real FM radio that doesn't use data?
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yes it has FM Radio
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Oh, strange, I may have jumped the gun but gsmarena states no fm radio and phone arena doesn't list it as á feature, but sure maybe too soon to state something like I did
2,800mAh battery? Is LG crazy? The G3 and G4 both had QHD IPS LCD screens with a 3,000mAh battery and both those phones had crappy battery life. The G5 keeps the QHD IPS LCD makes the backlight on all the time and DECREASES the size of the battery from 3,000mAh to 2,800mAh. I sure hope anyone that gets this phone doesn't mind the hassle of carrying several extra batteries everywhere they go. Personally, I can't stand it. I also hope that button mechanism on the bottom holds up well since the battery will have to be swapped a lot.
A phone with a QHD IPS LCD should have at least 3,500mAh. And with the always on back light it could use a few hundred more.
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2,800mAh battery? Is LG crazy? The G3 and G4 both had QHD IPS LCD screens with a 3,000mAh battery and both those phones had crappy battery life. The G5 keeps the QHD IPS LCD makes the backlight on all the time and DECREASES the size of the battery from 3,000mAh to 2,800mAh. I sure hope anyone that gets this phone doesn't mind the hassle of carrying several extra batteries everywhere they go. Personally, I can't stand it. I also hope that button mechanism on the bottom holds up well since the battery will have to be swapped a lot.
A phone with a QHD IPS LCD should have at least 3,500mAh. And with the always on back light it could use a few hundred more.
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As for the design, I think people are blowing this out of proportion, I think once the product is in ones hands it would look like a finished product.
5.3 qhd screen means a nicer ppi which is like light years ahead from the retina display.
The questionable button placement could't been more strange since the power button is only on the back of the phone with volume buttons on the side...
Snapdragon 820... This thing is a beast, yea I know its competing against sammy but what would you rather have, personally I shy away from touch wiz just a bit since theres just things that make the phone act bonkers which is not efficient.
Battery Decrease better be worth the since its competing against the battery drain, but Marshmallow would help as well as quick charge 3.0, don't forget about that removable battery.
Overall this is a daring move by LG, this can make or put them towards the point where the are backed up since Huawei is just closing in to be a big player in the mobile industry. I like this, I don't like to see a phone that just looks about the same from last year, really who wants that. Sammy did great changing it up but I could see them pull off similar iterations of that design for a couple of more years.
i wonder if it still has a notification led.
I like the look of the phone, but a number of things really put me off. That curved lip on the screen will be a pain in the butt to find properly fitting tempered glass protectors for. And why did they move the vol keys? They were perfectly fine on the back. One less cut out in cases for dust to collect at and no edge to get caught in pockets when taking the phone out.
The always on screen seems like a bad idea too, but I'm hoping that can be turned off. 0.8% per hr extra is a lot. That's 6.4% per night, that's nearly as much as my normal batt burn on the G4 with data on and all that jazz..
Justatechie said:
As for the design, I think people are blowing this out of proportion, I think once the product is in ones hands it would look like a finished product.
5.3 phd screen means a nicer ppi which is like light years ahead from the retina display.
The questionable button placement could't been more strange since the power button is only on the back of the phone with volume buttons on the side...
Snapdragon 820... This thing is a beast, yea I know its competing against sammy but what would you rather have, personally I shy away from touch wiz just a bit since theres just things that make the phone act bonkers which is not efficient.
Battery Decrease better be worth the since its competing against the battery drain, but Marshmallow would help as well as quick charge 3.0, don't forget about that removable battery.
Overall this is a daring move by LG, this can make or put them towards the point where the are backed up since Huawei is just closing in to be a big player in the mobile industry. I like this, I don't like to see a phone that just looks about the same from last year, really who wants that. Sammy did great changing it up but I could see them pull off similar iterations of that design for a couple of more years.
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My comment was mostly about the tiny battery that will result in crappy battery life. However the QHD screen (not sure what phd is. typo?) is way overkill. The average person can only see about 300ppi at normal phone viewing distance of about 12 inches anyways and on a 5.3" screen you can get pretty damn close to that with 720p and even better with 1080p. QHD is ridiculous and just wastes battery.
Does it have USB OTG capability? Can anyone confirm this? thanks
Fuadcim said:
Does lg g5 has FM radio?
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http://www.lg.com/de/handy/lg-G5
UKW-Radio: "Yes"
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ranzzit said:
Does it have USB OTG capability? Can anyone confirm this? thanks
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Same for you, http://www.lg.com/de/handy/lg-G5
"Android Beam, Über Slimport, Miracast, Cloud Dienste, Medienserver, Drucken, DLNA, LG AirDrive, MirrorLink, USB OTG"
Since the G5's battery is removable but not the back, Is there space to even fit a extended battery? Would it look similar to the G5's camera module? Seems it would cost more compare to g3,g4, and V10.
deadsea said:
The always on screen seems like a bad idea too, but I'm hoping that can be turned off.
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It can be turned off.
Stromma
What is UKW-Radio? Is it the same as FM radio?
Hi-TechUp said:
http://www.lg.com/de/handy/lg-G5
UKW-Radio: "Yes"
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Same for you, http://www.lg.com/de/handy/lg-G5
"Android Beam, Über Slimport, Miracast, Cloud Dienste, Medienserver, Drucken, DLNA, LG AirDrive, MirrorLink, USB OTG"
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