Lag? - Moto 360 2015

Hi,
Just got the 360 46mm today. For some reasom, it feels like it lags, A LOT. Anyone else experiencing this? Wondering if I just have a bad unit
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My 46mm is also sluggish. I am wondering the same thing - I saw it in one review as well but most have not mentioned it. Is anyone else experiencing this at all? I have a Sony Smartwatch 3 and it has similar specs - but smooth as butter.
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I just bought mine yesterday. Updated it and charged it. It was lagging. I restarted it - and it seems smooth now. Have you tried that?

So I am going to return mine and see if the new one experiences the same lag. I would like to hear if anyone else has experienced this still. After a restart, it stops for a bit. I also tried unpairing, uninstalling wear from my phone (Note 5) and factory resetting. I have no apps installed. I factory reset 3 times in the past bit - also tried disabling and enabling Google Fit, Cloud Sync, and Wifi. It seems to start occurring after receiving a hangout or text message. The lag persists even after dismissing it on the device. It also persists if I disable bluetooth on my phone and let it run just as a disconnected device. I think that kind of rules out the phone. Other than the typical Google apps stock with android, my watch is also stock using the stock watch face. This is the 46mm - in case others come across this and need info.

nerdstaz said:
So I am going to return mine and see if the new one experiences the same lag
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Spotted this on the Motorola forums - I wonder is this what you're experiencing?
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/1a5cbb0aa8

This is exactly what I am experiencing. Thank you! Are others experiencing it or is it a dud? His fix seems to "fix" mine. Still annoying for a 400 buck device

Great that this fixed it! Yes, it is annoying - but hopefully something Motorola can fix with a software update. He says that others on Reddit have been reporting it, but I haven't been able to find that yet.

I found the reddit thread. I will just run with wrist turn on and ambient off. Things like this happen and Android Wear is still in its infancy. Such is life! Now where to report this...
https://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/3ms7uc/2nd_gen_360_animations_and_interactions_not

Ah! So I'm not alone. Too bad I returned it. I am going to take a break from smart watches for now given with the not so great experience with the Gear S2 and the new 360. I'm going to wait for the new urbane and see what LG is cooking up
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luisrcastillo said:
Ah! So I'm not alone. Too bad I returned it. I am going to take a break from smart watches for now given with the not so great experience with the Gear S2 and the new 360. I'm going to wait for the new urbane and see what LG is cooking up
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What happened with the s2?
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SanD-82 said:
What happened with the s2?
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S Voice, it is terrible. Notifications on the watch would be like 3 minutes late sometimes and just a few minor annoyances. Don't get me wrong, I really liked it, the watch is lag free unlike AW and battery life is awesome, but I honestly don't think it's worth $300
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No issues like this on my 42 mm.

luisrcastillo said:
S Voice, it is terrible. Notifications on the watch would be like 3 minutes late sometimes and just a few minor annoyances. Don't get me wrong, I really liked it, the watch is lag free unlike AW and battery life is awesome, but I honestly don't think it's worth $300
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Sounds a little like this video (although it's the S2 vs the original 360) - might give you a laugh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nqwiwZMwtE

luisrcastillo said:
S Voice, it is terrible. Notifications on the watch would be like 3 minutes late sometimes and just a few minor annoyances. Don't get me wrong, I really liked it, the watch is lag free unlike AW and battery life is awesome, but I honestly don't think it's worth $300
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Thank you for the feedback.
To be honest, I really love the moving ring the s2 has... It must be so easy to navigate the clock's functions...
I'm quite decided to get one eventually... I live in Argentina, and there's no release date yet... It might take a while...
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Not the Only One
Glad to know I'm not going crazy here. I thought it was doing exactly that, but I wasn't too motivated to look into it. I was just thinking about returning my 46mm. It definitely seems better after turning the always-on display off.

Yes, it's definitenly not perfectly smooth for me either (have 46mm version).
In several reviews it is said that Huawei Watch for example is much smoother compared to Moto 360 v2. Which is weird since both have the same processor and Huawei have even higher screen resolution.
So for me this is definitely an optimization issue, which was not properly resolved by Motorola yet. But I hope it will be in future updates.

SpeedFire- said:
Yes, it's definitenly not perfectly smooth for me either (have 46mm version).
In several reviews it is said that Huawei Watch for example is much smoother compared to Moto 360 v2. Which is weird since both have the same processor and Huawei have even higher screen resolution.
So for me this is definitely an optimization issue, which was not properly resolved by Motorola yet. But I hope it will be in future updates.
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I have same problem with my 360 46mm.
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haha yup. got mine yesterday, noticed it was sluggish and i was like, wtf, my Gear 2 ghetto running Wear wasn't this slow....then i turned it off, and bam, works fine now. they need to get on this. this is ridiculous.

We are keyboard developers for Smartwatches, lagging is one of our major research topic for our user experience for our TouchOne Keyboard. We have tested with all the Android smartwatch in the market. I agreed with you that Moto 360 2nd 46 is much lagging compared with 42 mm. This is technically proven in our result that Moto 46 mm is much slower than the Moto 42 mm. We couldn't find a reason for that since they have both the same spec.
Also, Sony Smartwatch 3 is the best responding square watch in the market based in our test result.

TouchOne Keyboard said:
I agreed with you that Moto 360 2nd 46 is much lagging compared with 42 mm. This is technically proven in our result that Moto 46 mm is much slower than the Moto 42 mm. We couldn't find a reason for that since they have both the same spec.
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That's very interesting - I have been wondering about the lag that has been reported, because I have a 42mm and can't say I have really experienced any. Using Pujie Black with 'Ambient' or 'Always On' On.

yeah, i don't use always on, but my 46mm seems laggy now.
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Laggy or not?

I'm seeing a lot of reports of lag, I for one am not experiencing this issue and if I were then this phone would be going back after my experience with the s4.
My g2 runs smoother than any phone I've ever used and I've used a lot of high end phones over the past 2years. I have noticed a couple very slight stutters in the stock launcher but I use next launcher and it runs flawless.
I have past experience with lg phones and it seems they sell a lot of defective models that they know a huge percentage will just deal with because for the most part everything works. Let me say that anyone experiencing lag and/or bad battery most likely have a defective unit. If it were me I would get another or my money back.
I haven't experienced any issues with heat either. I just got the phone though so I'll see how things go. I did have my screen on for 3 hours straight today at 100 percent brightness and the phone never got hot at all. I have yet to do any gaming but I would expect excellent results since it has the best gpu cpu combo of any phone out in America.
I'm coming from an s4 and this phone is leaps and bounds better in every way imo. Anyone doubting they should get this phone because of reported issues should not listen to that and get one because it's a great phone. If it has issues then exchange it for another.
People also need to remember that forums like this help serve us when we have problems so it's always going to be a high amounts of complaints and problems reported. Most people are completely happy with their g2. It has a very high rating on Verizon's wireless site and 95percent recommendation rate.
PS. To those saying that this phone lags period, and its just that you see it and us with slow eyes can't see it because we are just slow and not used to nice smooth phones like you. I think this is silly because many of us have lots of experience with gaming or video editing and can tell the difference between 10, 20, 30, 40, etc. fps. I know that my eye is very capable of seeing frame rate drops and I'm not seeing anything worse than 35fps which is very acceptable. I know this thing is gonna be a beast on cm or some aosp based Rom.
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No lag at all. vzw G2
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My phone is running smoothly. Sure I'll notice the very rare (micro pause?) Or redraw but I would be foolish to tell anyone I have a laggy phone. Even the smoothest of roms I've noticed stutters here and there but the phone in 99.9 percent of use was smooth yet some would say that it was a lag fest omg I'm taking it back.
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Just got the T-Mobile g2 today,loving this phone. No lag whatsoever, even though it does get a tad bit warm, but other phones do that also (s4).
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I get no lag in most things, however some games I have tried have strange stuttering issues. I think it is mostly due to optimizations that need to happen for this chipset as those same games ran very smooth on my older Galaxy Nexus which is way slower and also on my tablet. Doesnt make sense for a much more powerful phone to have stuttering problems in the games so all I can put it down to is a brand new chipset that things need to be updated for.
have you guys tested the scrolling smoothness and touch movement on the screen compared to other phones? If you go to developers settings, you can click the option to "show touches" where a white ball will follow your touch movement on the screen. I think this test shows how smooth the phone really is when it comes to scrolling and touch movement.
I compared it to the S4 at a verizon store and I thought the S4 was somewhat better. The scrolling was better on the S4 as well. The G2 was really fast and snappy though, and I didn't really notice any lag with that. Maybe after a while of usage, perhaps the G2 is better? After all I only tested the units at a store for a small period of time.
I dont know, I thought there were alot of people complaining about lag too, it sure seemed like it but really there arent alot of people complaining it was just really the same users reposting. It made it seem like it was more magnified than it really was. Some other users were talking about stutter here and there but it was more like micro stutter, kinda like what I experience here and there. To the untrained eye its hard to see but coming from pure stock android roms (CM rom etc...) its more prevalent to the eye, but in no way does it ruin the experience. Im sure we will get updated drivers for the hardware and GPU that will get released for the Nexus 5, and since it will be sporting the same hardware as the G2. Developers should be able to use those drivers in AOSP based roms but im not sure if that will be the same for custom roms based on the stock OS
imucarmen said:
I have past experience with lg phones and it seems they sell a lot of defective models that they know a huge percentage will just deal with because for the most part everything works
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What defective are U talking about? I haven't seen one defective LG yet
I changed the settings of the SoC to 512 buffer using deadline governor , set cpu to max speeds using performance governor.
Changed MP to disabled and things are smooth after running clean up tool which kills all the bloatwear. :good:
warlord420 said:
I changed the settings of the SoC to 512 buffer using deadline governor , set cpu to max speeds using performance governor.
Changed MP to disabled and things are smooth after running clean up tool which kills all the bloatwear. :good:
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Interesting, i was wondering if someone had tinkered with the kernel settings in TricksterMod, would like to know have you had any crashes or reboots?
sdsubball23 said:
have you guys tested the scrolling smoothness and touch movement on the screen compared to other phones? If you go to developers settings, you can click the option to "show touches" where a white ball will follow your touch movement on the screen. I think this test shows how smooth the phone really is when it comes to scrolling and touch movement.
I compared it to the S4 at a verizon store and I thought the S4 was somewhat better. The scrolling was better on the S4 as well. The G2 was really fast and snappy though, and I didn't really notice any lag with that. Maybe after a while of usage, perhaps the G2 is better? After all I only tested the units at a store for a small period of time.
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As a former S4 owner and a seasoned android user, I can tell you with complete confidence that this phone is not even close to as laggy than the S4. Not even close.
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I have seen no lag on my T-Mobile G2. Everything is silky smooth. I have had it since Monday. Funny thing is this is the longest I have ran a phone without either rooting, installing a ROM, or changing the launcher. I really like what LG did overall.
Walter21026 said:
Interesting, i was wondering if someone had tinkered with the kernel settings in TricksterMod, would like to know have you had any crashes or reboots?
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Changing the governor to one that's included in the kernel and changing CPU speeds within its stock limits is unlikely to cause any instability.
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spectrum, revolution...
Billy Madison said:
What defective are U talking about? I haven't seen one defective LG yet
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I owned an lg spectrum and though mine worked ok for the most part there were many many people reporting problems with that phone, and the same went with the lg revolution. Based off my forum experience with my prior lg's i made the statement. But I do think lg is stepping their game up and at this moment are my favorite.
EDIT: No lag on my G2. The phone absolutely screams, performance wise.
Another tip, until Android 4.3 comes out for the G2 (or we get AOSP) is to use the Lag Fix app. On my old Galaxy Nexus, this goddamn thing produced _AMAZING_ results. The bug that causes this is apparently fixed in 4.3, but since our G2s are running 4.2.2, I figured I might as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971852
and the app itself...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
I have it scheduled to fstrim every morning at 5AM. A bit excessive? I don't care, my GNex loved it... it was like having a freshly installed OS every morning.
imucarmen said:
I owned an lg spectrum and though mine worked ok for the most part there were many many people reporting problems with that phone, and the same went with the lg revolution. Based off my forum experience with my prior lg's i made the statement. But I do think lg is stepping their game up and at this moment are my favorite.
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So another words your going off of nothing. Kinda a big statement to say a company sells defective devices and will deal with it later but have no basis. Oh the wonderful internet.Jeeesh
you win
Billy Madison said:
What defective are U talking about? I haven't seen one defective LG yet
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So another words your going off of nothing. Kinda a big statement to say a company sells defective devices and will deal with it later but have no basis. Oh the wonderful internet.Jeeesh
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so my naming two phones and my experience with them and my countless hours of monitoring their forums and helping people with issues and reading the countless reports of the same issues over and over is nothing? ok
imucarmen said:
I owned an lg spectrum and though mine worked ok for the most part there were many many people reporting problems with that phone, and the same went with the lg revolution. Based off my forum experience with my prior lg's i made the statement. But I do think lg is stepping their game up and at this moment are my favorite.
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Ppl are constantly and forever reporting problems. Are there exist phone that is not prone to problems? For example Apple iphone X, did any of iPhone series have not had issues reported? 50% of ppl's problems goes from not reading in-box including manuals and instructions and asking simple and silly questions all over forums. I don't blame those ppl and not calling them silly, everybody has job and family to spend time instead of reading manuals. And other 50% part of reports is indeed from defective units but I doubt you have any proof that revolution & spectrum had many more defective units in stores than, say, galaxys
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Ppl are constantly and forever reporting problems. Are there exist phone that is not prone to problems? For example Apple iphone X, did any of iPhone series have not had issues reported? 50% of ppl's problems goes from not reading in-box including manuals and instructions and asking simple and silly questions all over forums. I don't blame those ppl and not calling them silly, everybody has job and family to spend time instead of reading manuals. And other 50% part of reports is indeed from defective units but I doubt you have any proof that revolution & spectrum had many more defective units in stores than, say, galaxys
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I never said LG produces more defective units than anyone else. I just said that my experience with them is that many defective units get sold. I'm sure everyone does this as it is with all technology. (how many of us who build our own PC's have received DOA parts) I've only owned samsung and LG phones and my experience so far has been LG is better.
Anyway! it's not the subject I was making this thread about.
imucarmen said:
I never said LG produces more defective units than anyone else. I just said that my experience with them is that many defective units get sold. I'm sure everyone does this as it is with all technology. (how many of us who build our own PC's have received DOA parts)
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for me: I've never in whole life, but I try to pick up brands and models carefully. Even raid x0 of 4 hitachis works 24/7/365 flawlessly fur years
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I've only owned samsung and LG phones and my experience so far has been LG is better.
Anyway! it's not the subject I was making this thread about.
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I'm too didn't want to be offendive but only tried to stat that lg selling garbage and selling defective units is mere exaggeration IMHO. So this is the proof

Lg g2, Lets talk... opinions, likes dislikes. Comment, screenshots...

Well it has been out a while now and there's been a lot of dev on it. It's still at the head of the pack and I just bought it having switched from Samsung (gs2, gs3, gs4,) and LOVE IT? BEST phone I've ever owned.
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Hi yeah I'm interested in this also just ordered mine coming tomorrow lots of reading to do
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I got a G2 recently and am 93% happy with it.
I was coming form a Nexus 4 and was certain I would get a Nexus 5. At the last minute while looking at the displays in the store and testing how they felt in my hand, I decided to go for the G2.
The missing 7% is the plastic back and the lack of wireless charging. These are both things that are superior on the Nexus 5 that I wish I could have on the G2. Especially wireless charging, the Nexus 4 spoiled me in that regard. It's just so much better for wear and tear on the phone's USB port which had been a problem area for me on my Galaxy S2, plus the tilted charging orb of the Nexus made a handy pseudo-dock. I am still glad I went with the G2 because the screen, battery life, and camera are all better but I do miss the wireless charging and rubberized back of the Nexus 5.
Have you seen this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454340
Or this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472319
Or this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439918
Thanks Devs. From my VZW G2.
Torethyr said:
I got a G2 recently and am 93% happy with it.
I was coming form a Nexus 4 and was certain I would get a Nexus 5. At the last minute while looking at the displays in the store and testing how they felt in my hand, I decided to go for the G2.
The missing 7% is the plastic back and the lack of wireless charging. These are both things that are superior on the Nexus 5 that I wish I could have on the G2. Especially wireless charging, the Nexus 4 spoiled me in that regard. It's just so much better for wear and tear on the phone's USB port which had been a problem area for me on my Galaxy S2, plus the tilted charging orb of the Nexus made a handy pseudo-dock. I am still glad I went with the G2 because the screen, battery life, and camera are all better but I do miss the wireless charging and rubberized back of the Nexus 5.
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Sayyy whaaaaaat?
I have wireless charging.....
chaki- said:
Sayyy whaaaaaat?
I have wireless charging.....
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You must have the Verizon model then!
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My pet peeve is the sprint variant is lacking a lot of ROM options. And no MIUI . And i cant talk and surf on lte. BUT this phone rocks.
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Coming from the Atrix HD I like my G2: big screen, no lag, nice interface. I miss the ability of the Atrix HD file manager to access my PC as remote storage. I know I can do the opposite with wireless storage but when working on the phone it means having to go back and forth to the PC.
to me:
battery - very good
speed - can lag through menus, but ok
camera - i'd say between ok and poor compared with a Note 2 that I owned. photos seems to be fuzzier. + as usual LG photos take too much space (for less better). OIS... this shouldnt be a strength. macro shots are good
memory - if you take many long videos and photos, stock many music and movies in it, this phones not for you. an additional usb storage to move or stock data is required
LG UI... - good, I don't find it too much like some tests say. too bad settings background is white, i would have preferred black. I don't use Slide Aside but it's interesting, sometimes Q-slide and QuickMemo.
Image edition = very poor
Video Editor is really good, too bad you can't use imported photos and videos (some videos may work).
weather app - not really accurate
voice mate - don't use it. just did a few times just for fun
keyboard - don't like. can't have suggestion when clicking on a word that was mispelled (like Samsung keyboard). the second line of letters doesnt fill the entire space. several keyboard themes is interesting though
microphone - good quality
KnockOn is a ++. I find myself dumb when double tapping on other phones to unlock the screen
all of this coming from stock rom with no "make the phone better" apps.
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You must have the Verizon model then!
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No, i have D802 int. I can't get it, every phone has different things activated. WTF?
Already pulled the trigger on G2. Will have the device with me in 5 days.
Upgrading from One X so huge jump in processing power and battery life for me.
Moto Defy to G2
gull_s_777 said:
Already pulled the trigger on G2. Will have the device with me in 5 days.
Upgrading from One X so huge jump in processing power and battery life for me.
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after 3 and half years, I am going to LG G2 from my Motorola Defy Red lens. its even huge leap... this sunday I am getting it.
srk_srinivas said:
after 3 and half years, I am going to LG G2 from my Motorola Defy Red lens. its even huge leap... this sunday I am getting it.
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Enjoy it.
I used to have a Defy too, loved that phone.
LG G2 is really something else though.
chaki- said:
Sayyy whaaaaaat?
I have wireless charging.....
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I have wireless charging on my D802...
I just bought a QI tag that fits between the phone and the cover (invisibly) and plugs in to the mini USB. Works like a charm for about £10 :good:
Great phone. For the 3+ months I have had it I haven't had an issue.
-Beautiful screen with minimal bezel
-Great battery 24+hours/5+ hours screen time
-Plenty of dev support
-Big fan of the rear keys + knock on/off
-Fast. Haven't experienced any lag (using Nova Launcher)
Only negative is the slow updates from LG. With a custom skin I don't think updating is as crucial but I want 4.4 so I can use google wallet again
browser stock
chaki- said:
No, i have D802 int. I can't get it, every phone has different things activated. WTF?
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Maybe there iisn't solution but i want ask You some help to fix this terrible issue on default browser:every hour some pages ask me about close. .if not. ...crash
I'm looking for a fix everywhere but just receive reply like..change your browser
Have another chance without molding mine device,please?
Some help?
Many thanks guys
D802 eur sws 10e,all stock
By guys,
There is some chance to fix issue about freeze default browser?
Many thanks all
D802 without mod all stock
Switched from an iPhone... I must say that I am very impressed with the LG G2 (and Android). The amount of customization I can do is staggering. I'm glad my decision to switch was not disappointing.
Please please how to fix this issue on default browser freeze every time?
No mod here,please
diegocapassi said:
Please please how to fix this issue on default browser freeze every time?
No mod here,please
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You're in the wrong thread. Post that question in the troubleshooting thread and give all details. Good luck!

Really slow, only me?

Was eager to test this when I got it yesterday. Starting the camera takes a long time, up to 7-8 secounds!
Anyone else? I also feel the phone is general luggish. Just came from A Galaxy S6 wich is really fast in every way.
Mine too is really slow. Seems a bit more responsive while charging...
Cfager said:
Was eager to test this when I got it yesterday. Starting the camera takes a long time, up to 7-8 secounds!
Anyone else? I also feel the phone is general luggish. Just came from A Galaxy S6 wich is really fast in every way.
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HiCfager;63067557
Exactly the same for me also coming from a S6, maybe with 3gb ram S6 better?
Uninstalled AVG and some google stuff and a bit quicker? maybe AVG?
Don't really see if it slow. Few apps on the same time using gps and wifi/mobile data like Endomondo, OruxMaps, Here + YouTube and switching between them is without problems.
But starting apps - I agree - isn't that fast. The camera starts very slow, slower than Samsung S3 i9300 or Samsung A5.
Mine takes about 2 second (locked screen, holding camera button). I uninstalled most of bloat and disabled camera apps.
indeed it is bit laggy compared to z3compact - i can hope it will be fixed in the next software update
Is it that laggy like on the video below?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Om8LHKMwjU
Hell no! Is is rather compared to Z3c Ui performance It can be slow while restoring apps and I hope this was thenissue on that video.
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Slower than my z3c. Might as will stick with my z3c than.
Can't believe this is the case, must be true if many of you are witnessing this considering this is not even available to the masses yet.
Disappointed top say the least
Mefa2 said:
Is it that laggy like on the video below?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Om8LHKMwjU
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After changing the home screen app to Nova luncher it's better.
But some stumbles a micro-twitches are visible on longer lists (30 elements - 4 full screens of scrolling).
The most problematic list is the list of widgets - the lag is very visible.
I've recorded the screen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AATep4o83tM
It seems that it haven't influenced the efficiency of device.
on 00:10 there is scrolling and the comparition to status bar opening.
on 01:03 is scrolling in gReader
Just saw the YouTube video from above
That's drasticly slow
I think that this problem is going to be solved in near future and that this guy from the video have to have a broken model. I'm definitly buying this phone, but I will wait for about a month to see if this is common problem or not. Also I'd like to see some price drop.
Well I wanted a compact..... I live in the USA. When they were announced I was disappointed with the build quality but still wanted a yellow or white one. Since I have to import it, I come to learn yellow and white are carrier exclusives and not available unlocked. I ordered a normal Green Xperia Z5 instead. I'm coming from a Note Edge, the screen size will be a lot less of a change than going to a compact. I've been still debating cancelling the Z5 and getting a compact. This slowdown might be the final nail in the coffin for the compact for me. Hopefully the extra gig of ram in the Z5 helps it fare better. I really don't want the z5 compact to do bad, I want all Sony phones to sell well, as I like the Xperia brand and Sony needs a win.
Mefa2 said:
I think that this problem is going to be solved in near future and that this guy from the video have to have a broken model. I'm definitly buying this phone, but I will wait for about a month to see if this is common problem or not. Also I'd like to see some price drop.
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Well I am going to wait for the Amazon release (I mean dispatched by Amazon). (I've pre ordered it in Amazon.it with shipping to Spain).
So If I have some kind of problem...I could return it easily and wait more time for a (potential) new revision of this phone.
But two things:
1) A lot of common issues (I'm seeing on the web) could be fixed with a software update.
2) There is no Z5 compact replacement. The only good alternative is the Z3 compact, which is a hi-end 2014 Phone with probably 1-2 years more of Android updates, and (at least where I am living) there is no big difference in price. (I'm currently using a Nexus 5 2013 and I can't stand this size anymore, I want something smaller, comfortable in one hand, like my old Galaxy Nexus, and the Z5 compact is the only one with similar size).
I am wondering what to do as well. I have a z3 compact now, with the ill famed spontaneous cracked back (it happened while I held it in my hand) and really wanted the,z5 compact. But should I pay so much money for a new flagship that's slower than my 1 year old phone?
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Mine is getting delivered. I might return before opening.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/help/ultimate-fixes-battery-lag-camera-t3241173
solution...
I have changed from z3c to z5c and find 5c much slower and more sluggish than 3c. Hard to believe that a newer phone is so much worse than the old one. Camera quality may be better but it crashes as well so not very useful.
albeit said:
I have changed from z3c to z5c and find 5c much slower and more sluggish than 3c. Hard to believe that a newer phone is so much worse than the old one. Camera quality may be better but it crashes as well so not very useful.
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Slow like the video or just opening apps?
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I think if you havent started it for a while it takes longer, like 3-4 seconds. Once its been started once, from the home screen it takes about 1-2 seconds. I think starting with the camera button while locked adds like 2 seconds.

My new redmi note 4!!!

Hello, I received the beast! First impressions very positive,
When the activation wore MIU 7 something and immediately had an upgrade available in 8!
The X20 seems to be doing quite well with the temperatures, I mean although they set kept within reasonable limits the temperature. Also thanks to the guide here on Google play installation forum, and I was able to pass the Google play and the goodies (contacts, calendar, etc.)
I will come back with more details when the handle a couple 2 days .....
It is my first experience with chinese apparatus generally. But I was a holder of the following devices until now: galaxy s, s3, Note 2, S4, LG G2, Note 3, LG G3 - Note 4, Lg G4, LG G5
The X20 seems to be doing quite well with the temperatures, I mean although they set kept within reasonable limits the temperature. Also thanks to the guide here on Google play installation forum, and I was able to pass the Google play and the goodies (contacts, calendar, etc.)
I will come back with more details when a couple pilot 2 days and then .....
Well we have and say, after 24 hours with redmi note 4:
1. Beautiful gold, as I see it and the habit so I like more. Generally very nice design (tastes of course is what)
2. Autonomy, very good 6-7 hours sot comfortably without restrictions
3. Photo Quality just good (not compare in any way with famous flagship)
4. Despite very quick smoothie with exemplary, very good work in MIUI 8 (6.0.1)
5. Very good speaker on the G5 I maybe better. Sound from the headphones is also very clear and powerful (tested with headphones gavio metallon)
6. Display good (not sure amoled) with excellent brightness! viewing angles simply good.
7. The fingerprint lightning fast, more or less like the LG G5
8. Google play had to spend manually (easily of course)
9. The device has anglokineziki rom.
10. It charges very fast (not just counted time will come back)
11. I placed the first day nova launcher pro (all my devices that I wear always), which I can say sat very well, and what I mean? In G5 I eg with nova launcher there is a conflict with the locking device and the fingerprint unlock, in redmi note 4 not encountered any problems, do not expect .......
12. Now to the issue of cpu temperatures, the temperature that can do with mobile, keep very reasonable! I did not expect you to read the earlier X10.
If I stun sorry, but I hope I helped those considering joining the market of .....
Hey hello,
i got mine 2 days ago here in Sofia, very good impression so far, i come from elephone p8000 with also 4100mAh battery, and gold collor, i must say battery very very good, too bad no fast charge but ok, no complain, good picture also in dark, fast, fast gps, lte good on both sims and wifi ok too, light weight, very very happy so far, my anututu was 81000.
I ordered a gold color tpu case and carbon back sticker so will see with that, nice to have notification light, also have fm radio... call quality hear and speak very good to.first xiaomi device and very happy, now... maybe .... CM13 but i put nova launcher so also ok....
so far no bad experience
Can anyone tell me how to get the global ROM on redmi note 4? Or at least google play store? I can only find the China ROM right now
No find global yet but xiaomi.eu showed own version
szpieg15 said:
No find global yet but xiaomi.eu showed own version
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Tutorial for google play and services
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...
Google Play Installation Tutorial for MIUI 8
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dimi30 said:
The X20 seems to be doing quite well with the temperatures, I mean although they set kept within reasonable limits the temperature. Also thanks to the guide here on Google play installation forum, and I was able to pass the Google play and the goodies (contacts, calendar, etc.)
If I stun sorry, but I hope I helped those considering joining the market of .....
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Question: How is active battery life? Standby drain? Anything out of the ordinary with the X20? Since the first device with the X20 (ZOPO Speed 8) was so bad with it, I'm worried about EVERY device with the X20.
AB__CD said:
Question: How is active battery life? Standby drain? Anything out of the ordinary with the X20? Since the first device with the X20 (ZOPO Speed 8) was so bad with it, I'm worried about EVERY device with the X20.
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it is much better than zopo speed 8, i have one here nd will sell it, terrible for 3600, this one is really good active battery life
AB__CD said:
Question: How is active battery life? Standby drain? Anything out of the ordinary with the X20? Since the first device with the X20 (ZOPO Speed 8) was so bad with it, I'm worried about EVERY device with the X20.
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The battery and autonomy is amazing!! 6+ hours sot!!
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dimi30 said:
The battery and autonomy is amazing!! 6+ hours sot!!
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bvinken said:
it is much better than zopo speed 8, i have one here nd will sell it, terrible for 3600, this one is really good active battery life
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Great to hear. Turns out X20 isn't so bad after all!
Finally managed to get google play The battery life is great, only thing is that it charges pretty slowly but that could be because I'm using my old xiaomi plug which is lower output. Haven't had any problems so far but its top early to tell. Now I just need to wait for my bootloader to be unlocked
Been using it for a day now, managed to get pkay store and so far so good. Only thing is that when im watching videos on youtube or using CM browser sometimes the app will just close randomly. Not a big problem but it gets annoying when it happens often. Anyone else experiencing this as well?
Hi,
Tell me please does the Redmi Note 4 have NFC support? Some websites say yes, some say no.
Thanks
I get around 5 hours screen on time with my rmn4 . Great device !
No NFC..... Anyone know how to unlock bootloader?
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Been using it for a day now, managed to get pkay store and so far so good. Only thing is that when im watching videos on youtube or using CM browser sometimes the app will just close randomly. Not a big problem but it gets annoying when it happens often. Anyone else experiencing this as well?
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Brother same here everything is closing automatically and frequently.. Did you get any solution.
Ive tweaked the permissions, power saving apps, restrictions, ect...Everything I found that could be possible, and I still get apps automatically shutting down. Even the ones I've locked into memory. I think there's some big bugs with Miui 8 so far, and needs a little polishing.
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Ive tweaked the permissions, power saving apps, restrictions, ect...Everything I found that could be possible, and I still get apps automatically shutting down. Even the ones I've locked into memory. I think there's some big bugs with Miui 8 so far, and needs a little polishing.
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Same. I tried tweaking LMK values too. I actually get massive slow-downs now, I need to regularly clean memory (even if I only have Chrome open since cleaning memory before - Chrome itself will slow down and lag really badly).
Hope it's fixed soon. By three year old Xperia Z runs MIUI better than this lol...
CosmicDan said:
Same. I tried tweaking LMK values too. I actually get massive slow-downs now, I need to regularly clean memory (even if I only have Chrome open since cleaning memory before - Chrome itself will slow down and lag really badly).
Hope it's fixed soon. By three year old Xperia Z runs MIUI better than this lol...
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Agreed, I hope it is fixed soon too. I was very excited to finally have an official MIUI device, but this runs like I'm in a beta program.
Just to give a feedback about this phone. I've been using it for 3 days now.
I'm not that kind of person that gives 5* review easily, but THIS PHONE IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! Best xiaomi buy ever, and MIUI 8 is impressive as well.
Well done Xiaomi!
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Just to give a feedback about this phone. I've been using it for 3 days now.
I'm not that kind of person that gives 5* review easily, but THIS PHONE IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! Best xiaomi buy ever, and MIUI 8 is impressive as well.
Well done Xiaomi!
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Where did you purchase from and where abouts are you, if you don't mind me asking?
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What's your opinion of the Umi Z Pro???

I just had my Moto g4 plus 64 stolen, I've used Moto G' for a few years now and they're brilliant, running stock android and no need to root.
I just ordered an unique z pro from eBay after watching a few YouTube reviews who all thought the phone was brilliant, now after looking on this forum there are a few saying do not buy.
If you have one, are you happy with it with official software? (I don't plan on routing a new phone)
I haven't receive it yet and am beginning to regret the purchase so it may have to go back!
I was looking at the Moto Z play but this is £130 cheeper.
I received mine from Gearbest five days ago. I also read all forum topics and was skeptic about the phone, even thou made a video of unpacking it.
First of all - the phone is absolutely brilliant - I have NONE of all problems people talking here: battery life is good - more than 5 hours with display switched on, apps orientation is fine, display is perfect - no scratches or anything else, my SD card working just perfect.
I got the phone with V3.01_20170321 ROM, 2 days ago it receives the v.3.01_20170408 as OTA update - NO problems at all.
Charging is slow, even using standard charger (I usually charge my phones while they are connected to PC).
Sound of the speakers is gorgeous, loud enough.
The phone is using pure Android which is good.
The camera is simply outstanding.
Also NO problems with Wi-Fi or 4G(LTE) - in my country Bulgaria all mobile operators are using 1800MHz for 4G. The coverage and the signal is on a maximum level.
For the money I've paid - this phone is super!
Thanks, have you got a link to your video?
I didn't upload it. The video is for my personal use - in case something wasn't OK when I got it, it would be easier to claim for money back or replace the phone.
More or less I can report the same. So far after a week, I have no hardware or software issue with the phone. Seems to be working as advertised. The only issue I had was with a few applications which simply refuse to run, but I didn't dig further to see why they FC. If intending to run it with no root and unmodified they it should be perfectly fine. Even though the os is AOSP based, I'd still prefer to have the possibility to run anything I'd like, such as Lineage for example. When it comes to charging, Im not sure what should be classified as slow or fast, but I think the phone charges in about an hour if I'm not mistaken. And one thing I'd like to see improved is the final quality of photos, since in the preview everything seems sharp and detailed but the captured photos seem somewhat pixelated for my taste but on the other hand I haven't explored that much the settings. In general it appears to be a good phone.
I have my Phone since a Week.
Very good sound
Good screen(thank's to Sharp! Real good Japanese quality)
The hardware is perfect
I received the Phone with V 3.01_20170321
I had some problems with the OTA Update 3.01_20170408:
- had to reset and recalibrate the gravity and compass sensors. Easy to do
- I had more problems with the radio 3G/4G. It lost a lot of times the GPRS connections and the modem had very big difficulties to reconnect it back on network. I can partially understand, my provider share his networks and frequencies with an other provider. But no excuse for Umi(digi ) i had never problems with other phones. Umi have to follow clearly the established protocols and do more tests !!
I reinstalled the firmware with flashtool with full formating. Since, it seems ok.
In all cases, I'll waiting a few days before I authorize the upgrade on Nougat(as soon it coming )
Some good non-sponsored reviews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6UAkAU02cU&t=0s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49Bxa2Sy9Ck
I think those cover the bases pretty well.
One note is that the wifi radio is worse than my nexus 4 which is pretty sad. Wifi is really important.
Overall I'm happy with my $234 phone but it's definitely not the 'best budget phone.'
Disappointed with the Camera
I have a Nexus 6P and in comparison to it, Umi Z Pro fails in every aspect in terms of capturing images.
The camera on Z Pro is quick and it doesn't have similar focus as 6P.
But the image quality is okay, they hyped the phone for camera but I think that's not what they implemented.
Built quality is excellent, for a phone of this budget and stock android experience is a plus, no bloatware is a bonus.
I bought the phone regardless, my only regret is I can't get 4G data, as the bands are not supported.
Jhadial said:
I have a Nexus 6P and in comparison to it, Umi Z Pro fails in every aspect in terms of capturing images.
The camera on Z Pro is quick and it doesn't have similar focus as 6P.
But the image quality is okay, they hyped the phone for camera but I think that's not what they implemented.
Built quality is excellent, for a phone of this budget and stock android experience is a plus, no bloatware is a bonus.
I bought the phone regardless, my only regret is I can't get 4G data, as the bands are not supported.
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I have had one for about 2 months and I can't see why others are saying not to buy one.
It is well made, reminds me of a galaxy edge in its design. I have never had any software problems with it. The screen is nice and it is responsive.
The 4g in my area is hit and miss, and the UMI z Pro doesn't do as well as my previous phone (Lg G3) for getting a 4g signal, but it drops to using 3g where the 4g signal is weak so not really an issue. I would say that that is the only negative thing I could say about it, but it is no deal breaker. Remember that it costs hundreds less than Samsung, LG etc's flagships, and in my opinion, it is well worth buying.
I am looking forward to the android 7.0 update, which should be soon.
Enjoy your phone and don't worry about making a bad purchase.
Just ordered...GearBest just shipped it from EUwarehouse to replace my worn down S4active
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chebsy said:
I have had one for about 2 months and I can't see why others are saying not to buy one.
It is well made, reminds me of a galaxy edge in its design. I have never had any software problems with it. The screen is nice and it is responsive.
The 4g in my area is hit and miss, and the UMI z Pro doesn't do as well as my previous phone (Lg G3) for getting a 4g signal, but it drops to using 3g where the 4g signal is weak so not really an issue. I would say that that is the only negative thing I could say about it, but it is no deal breaker. Remember that it costs hundreds less than Samsung, LG etc's flagships, and in my opinion, it is well worth buying.
I am looking forward to the android 7.0 update, which should be soon.
Enjoy your phone and don't worry about making a bad purchase.
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Cough cough 7.1.1 cough
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I received my Z Pro about 4 weeks ago.
The first impression is very good.
Super design and the hardware is top for this price class.
So far (almost) everything works perfectly.
The camera still has certain weaknesses.
That was with my UMI Super already so.
The focus does not seem to work properly.
The photos are very blurred/cloudy.
Only in bokeh mode the photos are good.
I hope UMIDIGI finds a solution and fixes this problem with one of the next updates.
Okay...got mine yesterday....
First impressions are good, but without making any changes to the stock ROM some apps are not working (maybe CPU or ROM related, i have to figure that one out in the coming days....)
For instance Firefox Browser didn't work for me (FC) but uninstall and reinstall seemed to do the trick. Also MX-player Pro tells me: 'component files are corrupted or android internal modules are not compatible with current version'.
ANother thing is that i can't manage to get it working with my Samsung Gear S watch ...but i think i'll find a way after some research...
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Okay...got mine yesterday....
First impressions are good, but without making any changes to the stock ROM some apps are not working (maybe CPU or ROM related, i have to figure that one out in the coming days....)
For instance Firefox Browser didn't work for me (FC) but uninstall and reinstall seemed to do the trick. Also MX-player Pro tells me: 'component files are corrupted or android internal modules are not compatible with current version'.
ANother thing is that i can't manage to get it working with my Samsung Gear S watch ...but i think i'll find a way after some research...
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Mx player works fine and pro version try the free version and see if same issue exists
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marco.deluxe said:
I received my Z Pro about 4 weeks ago.
The first impression is very good.
Super design and the hardware is top for this price class.
So far (almost) everything works perfectly.
The camera still has certain weaknesses.
That was with my UMI Super already so.
The focus does not seem to work properly.
The photos are very blurred/cloudy.
Only in bokeh mode the photos are good.
I hope UMIDIGI finds a solution and fixes this problem with one of the next updates.
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umi super user here. would you say that the Z pro is a good and worthy step over the super or are the differences too small to upgrade?
Same with the free version of MXplayer
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Same with the free version of MXplayer
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Must be a bug when does this happen
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Sorry...cant...i am on 7.1.1 beta aleady
ZeroZorro said:
Sorry...cant...i am on 7.1.1 beta aleady
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Does it happen on the beta version?
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