Heart Rate Sensor tracking using without Bluetooth? - Moto 360 2015

Hi there,
I'm planning getting a 360 2. gen and have some questions.
Is it possible to use the heart rate tracking without being connected to the smartphone by Bluetooth? How can the intervals of measuring over the day be set? Are there different apps for this? How accurate is the HR sensor when doing sports?
As this functionality would be the main driver for getting the watch I would be very interested on this.
Thanks in advance!

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app request - continous heart rate monitoring with warning vibrations.

One feature I would like the gear fit to have would be an exercise app that continuously reads your heart rate.
Also have vibrating warning as your heart rate go up and down.
Example:
If your heart rate is to high, vibrate continuously until it gets lower. And short vibrations if its too low.
That would be perfect for people who want to work out and stay in a specific heat rate zone.
pousti said:
One feature I would like the gear fit to have would be an exercise app that continuously reads your heart rate.
Also have vibrating warning as your heart rate go up and down.
Example:
If your heart rate is to high, vibrate continuously until it gets lower. And short vibrations if its too low.
That would be perfect for people who want to work out and stay in a specific heat rate zone.
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Even if there was a development kit doubt it be possible with the way the watch gets the heart rate.
If it kept that light on all the time I expect the battery be dead in a few hours tops
AstroDigital said:
Even if there was a development kit doubt it be possible with the way the watch gets the heart rate.
If it kept that light on all the time I expect the battery be dead in a few hours tops
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It already does continuous heart rate monitoring in running mode. But I don't just run. That's what I'm using now for my work outs, as long as the gear fit is on tight it gets good readings. Just would be nice if could get vibration feedback instead of having to look at the watch.
I was hoping to track my heart rate over time, even when not working out. Can the Fit do this in any easy way?
I would be ok with 5/10 minute intervals. A little different that what you need but it could just be a difference in settings.
yeah I was also hoping something like that was possible.. maybe some devs will make it in the near future
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Yeah. How else would you track calories burned from other forms of fitness? This is seriously a big hole in the capabilities of this device.
Hi,
it's possible to have an app like Jawbone UP for Samsung gear fit?
thanks a lot
pousti said:
It already does continuous heart rate monitoring in running mode. But I don't just run. That's what I'm using now for my work outs, as long as the gear fit is on tight it gets good readings. Just would be nice if could get vibration feedback instead of having to look at the watch.
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Has anyone attempted to monitor HR all night using "Walk" mode? I'm thinking about attempting it tonight. I really think this watch could be a great exercise training tool to see how you are recovering. It's is completely useless for running "Distance" works fine as a stop watch.
would be amazing to see heart rate at 30 min intervals with no button pressing!!!
Hi. I'd join the topic paster with the request of app. I have Samsung Gear Fit and it would be very interesting to have such app. If it's possible. I'm even ready to donate (a fear price). My phone - Samsung Galaxy S4. If it's possible - please let me know. Thank you. BR

amazfit pace very inaccurate heart rate sensor

So I bought the pace model.
Did an interval workout on the treadmill, after I checked the app it measured 195 heartbeats/second. Which was nice and well becase i know thats where I end up at the end of those 4 minutes.
However, after that I did some strength training, and then finished off with some uphill walk on the treadmill where the treadmill measued 150 BPS, and my watch... 88 BPS. I know 150 is more accurate because my breath was around there.
After that, it hasnt been able to register anything over 110 BPS. Tried it for several workout sessions, still doesnt measure above 110. I tried factory reset.. doesnt change anything.
Someone else seen this?
I'm testing one amazfit and comparing with one garmin 630.
Amazfit measures correct just after 10 minutes of workout and then, after some minutes it measures wrong about a minute or two, and back to measure correct again.
Very bad algorithm.
Has nothing to do with bad algorithm.
Why do you guys think that there is no gym workout on the watch?
Because there is no known wrist hr sensor that is working correct for that.
Doing workouts means bending and flexing the wrist, which means that the sensor looses contact, which means inaccuracy .
And 90% of people that complain, have the sensor on a spot that is not really working.
Have seen very hairy guys complaining or people that have the watch "between the hand and the bone".
And make sure it is tight.
jhenrikb said:
I checked the app it measured 195 heartbeats/second.
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Holy crap, 195 beats PER SECOND!!?!! How are you still alive? Are you The Flash? Or possibly some kind of super smart hummingbird with an xda account (that would be cool).
Jokes aside, I also find the HRM on the Pace problematic.
It seems to work ok when you do "check now" as long as you stay still and its on tight. But whenever I use continuous HRM or do an activity like biking the reading seems to be about 20+ bps too high.
For example, I did "check now" just before a bike ride and got 65bpm, then again right after the ride and got 104bpm, but the bike activity recorded a starting heart rate of 84bpm and an ending rate of 134bpm.
yeah, sometimes my watch seems to measure my heart rate correctly, but other times it shows quite strange results.
I just finished indoor cycling workout. I used together Suunto Ambit watch with HR strap and Amazfit Pace. Amazfit HR data is useless. Here is merged image with both graphs.
Amazfit was tight, and my hand didn't moved to much. I tried several times to move hand on different positions to check is there any improvement, but without change.
Here is paralel graph (top is Suunto, bottom is Amazfit)
sometimes when physical exertion increases (when I go up a slope, for example) the heart beats are reduced.
The HR sensor in the pace seems about as accurate as someone guessing your heart rate from across the room.
Yes the bip is the same.
Absolute ****.
I've compared it with Polar watch + chest strap. There were differencies in the meassured pulse, however the average pulse for the trainings was very close on both devices. What is important for Peace, it has to be fastened very tightly on the wrist.
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I have compared Amazit Pace (1.3.6d) with Garmin Chest Strap HR monitor and FR235 doing Interval training running, and to FR235 optical HR monitior doing indoor biking.
In both activities Amazit Pace worked inestable the first 10 min then worked showing nearly same HR thank Strap HR and optical HR monitors.
Amazfit Pace showed a sudden decrease in HR reading about the middle of activities (about 1 hour each) and then back to proper reading.
In summary, Amazfit Pace uses about 10 min to have proper HR values, and sometimes during the activity has sudden decreases in HR reading.
For the rest of activity it performs quite well.
but you know that you can pair amazfit with a heart rate monitor strap, for example Polar H7?
This is about the Pace, and that can't be paired with a strap.
fzelle said:
This is about the Pace, and that can't be paired with a strap.
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oh, ok, i was talking about Stratos
heart rate sensor go crazy
I have the pace model too
sometimes (recently with more frequency) the heart rate sensor go crazy
yesterday, when i did an Indoor Run, he show the alert: "heart rate too low: 75", seconds after this, he show: "heart rate too high: 185", seconds after: "heart rate too low: 81", "heart rate too high: 172", etc etc.
Someone else seen this?
Someone know how to fix it?
ahander said:
I have the pace model too
sometimes (recently with more frequency) the heart rate sensor go crazy
yesterday, when i did an Indoor Run, he show the alert: "heart rate too low: 75", seconds after this, he show: "heart rate too high: 185", seconds after: "heart rate too low: 81", "heart rate too high: 172", etc etc.
Someone else seen this?
Someone know how to fix it?
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Is the watch brand new? Do you sweat a lot? Check the cover of the HR sensor, some people that had used the watch while bathing/showering had problem with the cover getting loose.
lfom said:
Is the watch brand new? Do you sweat a lot? Check the cover of the HR sensor, some people that had used the watch while bathing/showering had problem with the cover getting loose.
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I bought my pace in Feb/18 (3 months ago)
my sweat is near to zero
never bath/shower using it
the pace work well until one week ago, when i need to do a factory reset because something was draining the battery too fast (one charge in one night)
after the reset, the battery issue has gone, and the watch work well until yesterday (when the HR sensor issue start)
thinking about do one more factory reset... :fingers-crossed:
just to illustrate: HR (red) x Cadence (blue)
alexhan said:
I have the pace model too
sometimes (recently with more frequency) the heart rate sensor go crazy
Someone know how to fix it?
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Same issue here, with every Rom update HR accuracy gets worse in Sports activities. Continuous HR monitor seems accurate when compared to my chest strap, but goes haywire and at least 50% off true when in Run Indoor and Cycle indoor. Elliptical seems to be accurate at least some of the time. Have factory reset many times but nothing seems to help.
Yesterday I realized that with new ROM update, Peace have option to connect to other Bluetooth sensor(s).
I tested it and it with cheap 20$ Bluetooth sensor and works nice.

Is it possible to have a rom that does 1sec heart rate intervals?

My garmins have a 1hz update which = 1 second updates to the heart rate even when not in a workout.
My fitbits do 5 second updates.
The amazfit Stratos I have does 1 minute updates when not in a workout. This is too slow of an update interval.
I know the battery would be reduced but I don't care about that. Is it possible in a rom? Or any other way?
What do you want/need the data for? You can start Elliptical, it will record the HR as any other activity and you will have the HR graph.
Yes I know you can start an activity. That's not the point. A lot of watch faces show heart rate so why not have the watch face always up to date with the correct heart rate?
If I get up and walk down the hall at work, I shouldn't see a heart rate of 55, my other trackers have no problem having more frequent updates and they show my heart rate elevated if I get up and move around. Heck even the Garmin battery lasts 2 weeks without a charge at 1 second updates.
I can't be the only user that wants to see the heart rate in real time. If that's the case then they probably haven't tried other devices yet.
The continuous HR as is already cuts the battery by about a third of the average. An update of 1 sec would also degrade this. Now, the larger battery drain would be the screen updating every second with this HR data. Try a watchface with a second hand. It obliterates the battery.
The garmin and fitbit UI's are more refined and battery conservative. Not to mention garmin will last much longer without continuous HR. I doubt this will make it to amazfit software.

Hear rate with smart watch

Currently got iPhone 8 with Apple Watch 2 but really want m20 pro but have a reservation around the watch as I do a lot of running & cycling;
Huawei watch doesn’t support 3rd party so no good for Strava app on watch. Thought about getting a galaxy watch and running Strava via this but would it detect my heart rate from within the app (say if I gave permissions for heath app to pass heart rate through Strava?)
Essentially I want it as per my Apple Watch with all my metrics in display within the app on my watch including heart rate. It’s a bit of a deal breaker really!
Please help ?
The watch shows you your heart rate and has all the excersize and sleep tracking stuff built in. It's pretty much a fitness tracker with the time that lasts about 4 weeks on a charge.
Haven't used strava so not sure what that is, but the watch does the fitness stuff natively.

Amazfit GTR heart rate problem

Hi guys,
I just got my new Amazfit GTR and noticed strange behavior of heart rate monitor. It shows values even if the device is not on my wrist. I left the device on the table for more than hour and any time I looked on main screen there was heart rate value and it was also changing the values. So it wasn't just last value stuck. I tried to run exercise activity while leaving device on the table and it was showing heart rate as well. Not all the time but sometimes there was value and sometimes not. So is the device faking heart rate values? Is it normal behavior?
It is how PPG sensors work, they use the reflected light to estimate the number of beats. Search the internet for more info.
Well, I have another watch with PPG sensor but they don't show nothing when they are not on wrist.
So it will probably not be about sensor type. In this case they for example report my rest heart rate during the night even if they lay next to me on the table so the values will be completely faked.
The sensor works that way, but other devices may use *other* sensors to disable the reading when they detect the watch isn't being used, the accelerometer for instance.
HR
lfom said:
The sensor works that way, but other devices may use *other* sensors to disable the reading when they detect the watch isn't being used, the accelerometer for instance.
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HEyy,
- Also got 2 other product with the same comportment `` Fitbit Charge Hr ´´ and `` Fitbit Blaze ´´ , both detect when they are not in the wrist. Why doen's GTR do the same?
- Also both got more accuracy in Heart rate measurments...Because they are doing it consistently. With Amazfit GTR i only can program it to do it 1min in 1min. Already change it with Notify & Fitness. nothing seems to change....
- Another outburst from my side : heart rate scale doen't save scores higher than 180 BTM !
Are some of them just software issues ?
Regards to all
The heart beat sensor on the GTR is utter garbage. It does indeed fake heart beat results. Also the sleep analysis functionality is totally broken.
Just got my GTR and the heart rate monitoring is way off. Always some 20 to 35 Beats above the real one. As I have some hair I tried it in my finger and in my belly with the same wrong results. The firmware version is 1.3.4.19 which was updated immediately after first turn on. In contrast the free Android app I use is pretty accurate. I will still test the GPS.
Kaka0 said:
Just got my GTR and the heart rate monitoring is way off. Always some 20 to 35 Beats above the real one. As I have some hair I tried it in my finger and in my belly with the same wrong results. The firmware version is 1.3.4.19 which was updated immediately after first turn on. In contrast the free Android app I use is pretty accurate. I will still test the GPS.
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I returned the GTR and got another one from another vendor and it has the same problem. I can now say that the heart rate monitoring in the GTR is useless, just a boring toy.
Amazfit admits that the heart rate monitor is "prone to inaccuracies" in its faq: https://support.amazfit.com/us/faq/839
As the heart rate sensor is basically a pulse oximeter which monitors the perfusion of blood to the dermis, it’s prone to inaccuracies.That’s because skin perfusion — a measure of how much blood flows through your skin-varies significantly from person to another. Especially the ones who have dark skin, hairy wrists, tattoo, and scar.
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Kaka0 said:
Amazfit admits that the heart rate monitor is "prone to inaccuracies" in its faq: https://support.amazfit.com/us/faq/839
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Oddly enough I have found the heart rate monitor to be remakably accurate if worn correctly and over the range 60-110. A few moments ago I confirmed previous results and while the watch showed 91 bpm a simultaneous ECG showed 90 bpm. The problem I have with the HR monitor is that it seems, when the cpu is stressed, to produce crazy results. To get around this I run exercise from the phone and get sensible results from the HR monitor. I might add that I was cooling down after exercise!
Well seems I am testing today. Had the watch about 2 days. I am guessing the watch does NOT show the current temperature? Like that matters. The GPS took about 45-60 seconds to connect, as others had. Seem to do faster NOT on wrist. Now my heart-rate monitor works really good. Tested it and I when I got 86 the watch got 85. did it again I got 84 thee watch got 85. Now I did take it off put it on the rubber mat and it kept going up to about 96 lol Put on my keyboard( light on top of keys) it went down to 40. Yet on my wrist works really good.

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