Surface Book/Pro 4 Stylus - Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Accessories

With the new device coming out, I was wondering if anyone knows if the new surface book/pro 4 stylus would work on the note 12.2. I do not know if they switched back to wacom, but It did not seem to be an active stylus.

The Surface Pro 4 pen is a redesigned N-Trig pen, so no. And the Book pen is a Surface pen.
I really like that i7/Nvidia/16GBRAM/1TB Surface Book. But Microsoft won't tell us exactly which Nvidia GPU is included, which makes me more than a bit suspicious... I don't have $3200, anyway.

ShadowLea said:
The Surface Pro 4 pen is a redesigned N-Trig pen, so no. And the Book pen is a Surface pen.
I really like that i7/Nvidia/16GBRAM/1TB Surface Book. But Microsoft won't tell us exactly which Nvidia GPU is included, which makes me more than a bit suspicious... I don't have $3200, anyway.
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I played with a surface book for a bit (2400 dollar version) and it was impressive. I have never wanted to replace my NOTE Pro with a surface pro, but the book was an entirely different experience. I didn't like the magnetic clip for the pen though. No way that thing is in the same place after a ride to work in a backpack. Otherwise nearly perfect. However for $3200 I would look at the Vaio Canvas instead. Then you'll be getting a full quad core desktop CPU and still good battery life.

mjkurke said:
I played with a surface book for a bit (2400 dollar version) and it was impressive. I have never wanted to replace my NOTE Pro with a surface pro, but the book was an entirely different experience. I didn't like the magnetic clip for the pen though. No way that thing is in the same place after a ride to work in a backpack. Otherwise nearly perfect. However for $3200 I would look at the Vaio Canvas instead. Then you'll be getting a full quad core desktop CPU and still good battery life.
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Hahaha, well, nothing every stays in the same place in my bag, so one more or less wouldn't be too much of an issue. :laugh:
Sadly the Vaio is as useless as the Surface Pro 3 and 4.
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Integrated IntelHD GPU's aren't worth 5 quid, let alone 3000. If I'm going to spend 3000 quid on a tablet/laptop combination, I want to be able to use it as such, and not as a glorified Facebook machine. If I can't game on it, I don't want it.
At least the Surface Book comes with an Intel i7 and a dedicated Nvidia GPU.
You do realize the i7 in the Surface Book is a full QuadCore desktop CPU? The one in the Surface Book is a 6th Gen i7-6650U, the one in the Vaio Canvas is a 4th gen i7-4770HQ.

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Hahaha, well, nothing every stays in the same place in my bag, so one more or less wouldn't be too much of an issue. :laugh:
Sadly the Vaio is as useless as the Surface Pro 3 and 4.
Integrated IntelHD GPU's aren't worth 5 quid, let alone 3000. If I'm going to spend 3000 quid on a tablet/laptop combination, I want to be able to use it as such, and not as a glorified Facebook machine. If I can't game on it, I don't want it.
At least the Surface Book comes with an Intel i7 and a dedicated Nvidia GPU.
You do realize the i7 in the Surface Book is a full QuadCore desktop CPU? The one in the Surface Book is a 6th Gen i7-6650U, the one in the Vaio Canvas is a 4th gen i7-4770HQ.
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No I didn't realize that, the one I used had the i5 6300U which I pretty sure is a dual core. Also the 6650u is also a dual core I think. I can't afford either right now anyway and I still find my 905 to be great.

The i7 processor in the SurfaceBook is an i7-6600U. It is a dual core CPU, not quad core. At least that's what I've read everywhere. I think it'd be quite a feat to get a desktop class quad core i7 inside a tablet.

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The i7 processor in the SurfaceBook is an i7-6600U. It is a dual core CPU, not quad core. At least that's what I've read everywhere. I think it'd be quite a feat to get a desktop class quad core i7 inside a tablet.
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Bloody hell, you're right...
http://ark.intel.com/products/88192/Intel-Core-i7-6600U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_40-GHz said:
# of Cores 2
# of Threads 4
Processor Base Frequency 2.6 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 3.4 GHz
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Well, I'm not paying 3000 quid for a Dualcore. If I wanted 2009 specs, I'd buy a Macbook.

I really want a surface book myself. My biggest thing has been using a stylus that could replace paper and pen. I am a writer and I want something portable. i ahve my gaming system, so i wasnt looking for that. Though, I still wanted something I could play some games with, and maybe even some low settings of higher end games.
From what I have heard the dedicated gpu is a 1gb 900 series. Probably a 950m or so. Though, that is speculation. The 1GB limit is what bugs me. It means a limit on many dx11/12 and physX settings.
I didnt know if the surface pen was wacom or ntrig. They both have their benefits, however, the wacom still works with less lag.
I like Vaio options. They do pretty well. The last one I had was the Sony Vaio flip 15a. It was nice, with a good dedicated GPU. I got a refurbished model for around 800 bucks, with 1TB HDD and i7.
Its up in the air. Without cost being a concern Id just use a notepro and a surfacebook for mobile and my gaming laptop at home mostly.

An equivalent (roughly ) spec mac book pro is cheaper than the surfacebook. I know the mac book isn't a touchscreen device but I think that going higher than Apple's pricing isn't a smart move. Like them or not mac books tend to be sturdy long lasting machines and that hinge on the surfacebook looks like it's begging to be snapped off.
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An equivalent (roughly ) spec mac book pro is cheaper than the surfacebook. I know the mac book isn't a touchscreen device but I think that going higher than Apple's pricing isn't a smart move. Like them or not mac books tend to be sturdy long lasting machines and that hinge on the surfacebook looks like it's begging to be snapped off.
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Macbooks are no more durable that any other laptop, they just market it that way. Apple could make people think they are the shiniest most awesome thing on the planet. Hence why they call it the reality distortion field. We also cannot judge a hinge or other part of a product based solely on looks. Who knows, that hinge may outlast every other component.
I also cannot think that comparing a non touchscreen macbook to a surface pro and thinking they are equivalent is really all that equal. You are taking out a couple of the most expensive components. The touch screen and the digitizer, not to mention the pen. Thats like saying "My motorcycle cost less than my car, and its just a couple of wheels difference.".
There is also a need to consider other components, such as the dedicate gpu, the possibility of a quad i7, the rear facing camera, the fact that it can detach and be used as a tablet, The fact that it has higher resolution than the mbp, etc.
Overall, I would say the price difference is just fine. Though, in my opinion they are both overpriced. Apple is always notorious for making high margins on their products. The surface series is also notorious for being high cost. Price is definitely going to be the biggest 'con' to the device.

You're right about comparing the two devices, but it seems that Microsoft do consider the Apple laptops to be a competitor.
Everyone's experience is different but my 2009 Macbook Air still looks and feels new. I've never been able to say that about any other manufacturer's laptops. I thing the Macbook hardware really is top notch (sadly with a price to match!)

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You're right about comparing the two devices, but it seems that Microsoft do consider the Apple laptops to be a competitor.
Everyone's experience is different but my 2009 Macbook Air still looks and feels new. I've never been able to say that about any other manufacturer's laptops. I thing the Macbook hardware really is top notch (sadly with a price to match!)
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If you don't Game, and as a result don't require heavy duty hardware, then a Macbook will last you about 10-15 years. That's the good part of OS X, it doesn't clutter anywhere near as much as Windows does.
But if you play games (like me) the situation becomes slightly different. (You can't play real Games on a Macbook without running Windows in bootcamp anyway). They just don't run very well on 2 year old hardware, let alone 5.
I'd want to play Dragon Age Inquisition on the tablet, for instance. Today I'm doing it through Splashtop, but that just streams my desktop (it does add controls though). But running the game on an IntelHD? I tried that when the Optimus driver didn't support the game yet. (My Laptop has Nvidia Optimus, so without driver support everything runs on my IntelHD 5000 instead of my GT740M.) The result was, well... terrible. Even the main menu ran at 2fps. :silly:
But the whole issue about videocards is a moot point when the competition is Apple, because Apple always uses IntelHD videocards anyway. :laugh:

I game on a desktop. Gaming laptop is an oxymoron
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I game on a desktop. Gaming laptop is an oxymoron
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No, it really isn't. :laugh:
Intel i7 - 3630QM 3.4GHz, 6M Cache
12GB DDR 5 RAM
Nvidia Geforce GT 740M 4GB VRAM
1.5TB 7200RPM (I have no use for an SSD, far too small)
17.3" 1080p Matte LED, LEDbacklit keyboard.
You can game perfectly fine on that. Skyrim runs with 253 mods including HD mods on Ultra at a steady 60fps. Dragon Age Inquisition runs on High at 30fps.
You just need to stop shopping in crappy electronics shops, and pick one you can mod. I put the DDR5 in myself, as it came with 8GB DDR3. The GPU could use some upgrading, but I'm not exactly earning a fortune at the moment.
Please tell me how you suggest I game on a desktop computer when I live in two cities half a country apart 50/50 of a week. I'm not lugging a desktop tower onto a train for 5 hours twice a week, thank you very much... :laugh:

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Hmmmmm you didn't take any notice of my wink emoji.
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Sure did, hence all the laughing emojji's Just joking along.

I always find it funny when people talk about the limits of laptops and how you need a desktop for real power.
I see it all the time, and it makes me laugh. Sure, a desktop is cheaper and can definitely be more powerful, but my laptop serves me just fine, too.
I can run most games on ultra settings without much issue.
However, thats the one big thing with a surface for me. I still want to game. If I am not going to be lugging my laptop around, i sill want to be able to play an rts or maybe break out an older game like fallout 3 or call or juarez or civ 5 and play a bit. With the new setup, I think you will be able to do that. The older surfaces could game, but they were being pushed to run games like civ 5. I remember the i7 model was running so hot that it throttled down to the i5 model speed or less, so gamers were just going with the i5.
I hope they took care of heat management here. Its going to be one of the biggest issues when people start pushing those GPUs

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Help! Transformer Prime or Laptop?

Hey guys!
Firstly, I would like to mention that I do not own any tablet, nor any laptop. Now from what I've seen, if I want to buy a tablet, transformer prime is the best out there both in terms of price and hardware.
But my question is, for that same price (500 - 600), could I get any laptop with that kind of size and weight, but have better performance? I absolutely love the android niche and community and the hardware of the device itself. But every now and then I would love to run some old or decent games (morrowind xD, or halo) or perhaps use photoshop etc.... Would such a laptop, light, compact and relatively more powerful, at that price range exist? What are the advantages of a tablet considering my concerns?
Thanks guys!
be nice on the no0b plz
I was in the same case as you are before i bought the original transformer. No laptop no tablet, but a smartphone (HTC Desire) and a powerfull desktop computer.
Here's the thing. At this price point, the laptop you would buy will most likely be very bad on a lot of point. Build weight heat screen battery raw power etc.
But with a tablet. At this price you'll have the best in class.
So Yeah you wont do the same thing on a tablet and on a laptop, but some thing are better on laptop (work, heavy gaming) some are better on tablet (web browsing reading light gaming watching vidéo etc.).
The catch is that your laptop, being a low cost product, wont do its things very well, but the tablet will do what it does perfectly.
I could have bought a cheap laptop and be able to work on my CGs project on the go or play Skyrim everywhere but seriously... who wants to play Skyrim on a ****ty laptop with awfull graphics ? Who wants to work on a tiny screen with a slow ass CPU ? Working is bad enough not to worsening it by doing it with bad tools. And who wants to do this thing for no more than 2 hours top because that's what happen when you do heavy task on battery?
If you Really want to work or play big games on a mobile device, buy a real laptop (1000$+).
If what s your looking for is a mobile entertainement device with internet and some cool creative tools go for a tablet (the Transformer Prime !).
Plus tablet are hype and fun, and the Transformer with dock provide its fair share of "Woa effect " each time I take the screen away of what seemed until now to be a cheap netbook.
First off, a tablet and a laptop aren't really comparable at this point. I would recommend you get a laptop first, because laptops are capable of doing the practical things like word processing and photoshop and the like that tablets can't do yet. Tablets are still primarily "fun" devices compared to laptops (though tablets certainly do have some practical uses).
Yes, any laptop you get in that range will have better specs. I have a laptop in that range, and no tablets have the sort of capabilities my laptop has. But like I said it isn't really comparable, because they are 2 completely different experiences. As far as games, I've only ever played 1 game on my laptop: Homeworld (a 1999 game lol, old game but best RTS ever). Despite how old the game is, it still pushed my laptop to its limit, and I have a i5 processor. The only laptops that can run games well are really expensive, and so in that sense, I actually think in the under $1k range tablets are better for gaming.
Overall, a laptop is a much more practical choice.
the advantages to a tablet at this price point are going to be battery life, weight and touch input.
the advantages to a laptop at this price point are going to be more storage, faster CPU, more versatility when it comes to software.
downside to tablet: limited software (when compared to windows), less raw power
downside to laptop: subjectively worse gaming (at this price point, the tegra3 or ipad2 seem to have more gaming potential for well designed games than a $600 thin and light (as thin and light as possible at the price point) laptop, less battery life, heavier, thicker, no touch input (but possibly better keyboard/touchpad responsiveness)
so in the end, it comes down to what you are going to use your laptop or tablet for, and what features are a priority to you.
i have a laptop that i do actual photoshop/office/illustrator work on, but when i just need to take notes or write emails and stuff (as in, not get actual work work done, but sidework) then the OG transformer and my galaxy tab have been more useful than a tablet because of the lightness and battery life. for me at least.
Laptop is much better. Unless you use it as a supplement to other tech (desktop computer, mobile phone, heavy duty laptop), it is better to have a laptop. While you lose out on battery, it is simply much more powerful and versatile.
Tablet like Prime is useful as a netbook replacement. Something you use during lectures for notes, reading, browsing or viewing videos while on the go (plane, bus, carpooling). It has a long battery life, but is less than adequate for gaming (you cannot play any modern games on it, nor games that were modern ten years ago, even if they look better). It also has barely adequate options for document creation and powerful photo, sound and video editing is nearly impossible. A laptop is also much, much better when multitasking.
But if you have a device for gaming and office work and consider tablet a supplement to those tools, then tablet is absolutely awesome. Tablet is also awesome for people who don't do anything with computers other than reading documents and books, viewing videos and browsing internet. It's also great for kids.
In all honesty though, for the latter category, iPad 2 is a much better option than Transformer Prime.
The best thing Transformer Prime is for, is being a replacement for your netbook and supplement to your laptop/desktop computer.
I already have an iphone 4 and in all honesty I couldn't get myself to buy an ipad knowing that its identical to the phone.
Ive decided to get the Prime instead of replacing my 4 year old laptop.
Wow! You guys are really helpful! I really appreciate thoughtful replies. I have some good insight now!
Thanks again guys!
If you currently own neither laptop nor tablet definitely get laptop. For ~$400 your best option is Lenovo AMD APU E-450 based netbook with better graphics performance/gaming/media decoding than comparable Intel Atom netbook. This will allow you to do everything that you can do on a tablet with the added benefit of access to wider range of software especially productivity and games. If budget allows you can go higher end with Intel i5/i7 CPU, discrete graphics, SSD, etc.
Asus Transformer Prime is a great upgrade for someone familiar with an Android phone ecosystem and is ready to move up in size and performance.
Another option is in lieu of a high end laptop you can buy both the AMD APU netbook and the Asus Transformer Prime. If I was in your position and don't do anything very compute intensive on the x86 side I would go with this option.
mi7chy said:
If you currently own neither laptop nor tablet definitely get laptop. For ~$400 your best option is Lenovo AMD APU E-450 based netbook with better graphics performance/gaming/media decoding than comparable Intel Atom netbook. This will allow you to do everything that you can do on a tablet with the added benefit of access to wider range of software especially productivity and games. If budget allows you can go higher end with Intel i5/i7 CPU, discrete graphics, SSD, etc.
Asus Transformer Prime is a great upgrade for someone familiar with an Android phone ecosystem and is ready to move up in size and performance.
Another option is in lieu of a high end laptop you can buy both the AMD APU netbook and the Asus Transformer Prime. If I was in your position and don't do anything very compute intensive on the x86 side I would go with this option.
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Can't say I agree. He has made due without a laptop so far so to assume he would now need that extra functionality over a tablet would be a big assumption.
I currently do not have a laptop or a tablet but am getting the prime. Reason is that while there are a few things the laptop would be better suited for (like better word processing and excel) the fact is I haven't needed a laptop previously for those tasks and do not need them now. The basic office functions on the tablet will work fine for me (can format things at home).
When it comes down to it you need to really think what your main uses will be. For me its portable media consumption (much better on tablet) and annotating pdfs for classes (much better on tablet), and then studying off them. Sure a bit more power would be nice, but a tablet doesn't have to only be a laptop supplement, but a main PC supplement (which could be a desktop)

Artist Upgrading iPad1 - Nexus 10 or iPad4?

Ok I tried to cram the relevent information into the title, so people with the right advice might be able to help me out!
I am curently on an original iPad, that i have had for a couple years now. Now that xmas is coming up, I have been considering finally getting an upgrade, as this seems an oppurtune time!!
I mainly use my ipad for two things, reading on the kindle app, and drawing picture using a vector graphics program called iDraw (though I also have used sketchbook pro and artrage, etc, but lately vector graphics have been better for me).
I rarely (if ever) play games on the tablet (I have a wide array of consoles for gaming), and I watch movies on my laptop most of the time, although being able to output hi-def movies onto the big-screen tv would be handy on occasion.
I have looked into an android app called "infinite design" which seems to be exactly what I would need as far as drawing goes, so that fills the "artistry" niche for the time being. And it seems I can ignore the kindle apps (which I know both tablets have access to).
So I am stuck deciding between these two rather nice tablets. My personal pro's and con's being:
-iPad build quality and reliablity has already been proven, the nexus ... I've heard some faults like light leakage, which would be an absolute deal breaker considering what I use it for. Are the nexus faults an exception more than the rule?
-Android has much more interesting things to play with. I especially liked the idea of the "floating" apps, like LilypadHD and the app that allows a video to run in the foreground while you are using the webbrowser or similar ("Stick it!"? i think it was called). However, can the nexus 10 run these floating apps alongside other programs without causing lag issues and crashing?
-which reminds me that I also heard of some software crashes/freezes/reboots on nexus10s, although I have had a few of those on the iPad as well so this isnt a dealbreaker, as long as it gets fixed with firmware...
So yeh, any help or advice would be good guys just to let you know, I jailbroke the iPad as soon as I bought it before, and will likely jailbreak the new one if I get it, so this could be taken into consideration. Although if necessary I could also root the nexus, if there is an advantage to it. I have a galaxy s2 phone, but I never saw the need to root it (i did jailbreak my old iphone though).
ps. another thought, any advantage to having both an android phone and tablet? eg. connectivity etc? just occured to me it might help swing the decision, who knows!
Thanks anyway, to anyone who actually read all this
In regards to the art usage: the iPad 4's screen has better color reproduction (95% sRGB color gamut and 65% Adobe RGB gamut according to Anandtech).
Also as far as I know the Note 10.1's digitiser supports pressure sensitivity, which might be a bonus for you, so that might be worthy of consideration as well. However there is a stylus for the iPad which 'enables' pressure sensitivity by sending pressure data to specially optimised apps (Sketchbook included) through bluetooth, though I'm not sure how accurate that is.
Edit: The stylus is the Jot Touch.
okay like already mentioned:
i think the best for you would be the note 10.1, it has exactly the things which you need it to do. The stylus is perfect for artists as the feeling is almost like a real pen/brush etc.. btw it has wacom technology included (with the stylus) if u know what that is, then u know how superior that is to stylis mimicing pens on the ipad and other devices.
Yeh, I considered the note. Problem was, it didn't really wow me. Ignoring the whole touchwiz and other Samsung bloat ware id have to remove somehow, it's the same price as a nexus 10 but with less power and a worse screen.
The only advantage is the pressure sensitivity, but as I mostly work using vectors I don't really need this. I currently use a box wave stylus on my iPad, and will use similar in future I'm sure.
It seems the note will become obsolete quicker than the nexus, if only because I expect the nexus will continue getting support for longer. I might be wrong. Is a note 10.1-2 coming out?
I wasn't aware the ipad4 screen gave the best colour accuracy, that's pretty important to know thanks. Lots to think about
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Ok I tried to cram the relevent information into the title, so people with the right advice might be able to help me out!
I am curently on an original iPad, that i have had for a couple years now. Now that xmas is coming up, I have been considering finally getting an upgrade, as this seems an oppurtune time!!
I mainly use my ipad for two things, reading on the kindle app, and drawing picture using a vector graphics program called iDraw (though I also have used sketchbook pro and artrage, etc, but lately vector graphics have been better for me).
I rarely (if ever) play games on the tablet (I have a wide array of consoles for gaming), and I watch movies on my laptop most of the time, although being able to output hi-def movies onto the big-screen tv would be handy on occasion.
I have looked into an android app called "infinite design" which seems to be exactly what I would need as far as drawing goes, so that fills the "artistry" niche for the time being. And it seems I can ignore the kindle apps (which I know both tablets have access to).
So I am stuck deciding between these two rather nice tablets. My personal pro's and con's being:
-iPad build quality and reliablity has already been proven, the nexus ... I've heard some faults like light leakage, which would be an absolute deal breaker considering what I use it for. Are the nexus faults an exception more than the rule?
-Android has much more interesting things to play with. I especially liked the idea of the "floating" apps, like LilypadHD and the app that allows a video to run in the foreground while you are using the webbrowser or similar ("Stick it!"? i think it was called). However, can the nexus 10 run these floating apps alongside other programs without causing lag issues and crashing?
-which reminds me that I also heard of some software crashes/freezes/reboots on nexus10s, although I have had a few of those on the iPad as well so this isnt a dealbreaker, as long as it gets fixed with firmware...
So yeh, any help or advice would be good guys just to let you know, I jailbroke the iPad as soon as I bought it before, and will likely jailbreak the new one if I get it, so this could be taken into consideration. Although if necessary I could also root the nexus, if there is an advantage to it. I have a galaxy s2 phone, but I never saw the need to root it (i did jailbreak my old iphone though).
ps. another thought, any advantage to having both an android phone and tablet? eg. connectivity etc? just occured to me it might help swing the decision, who knows!
Thanks anyway, to anyone who actually read all this
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simple and straight forward advise, NOTE 10.1! dont even think of getting iPad 4 or Nexus 10! because NO, NO tablet on the Market can compete Note 10.1 in terms of sensitivity of S Pen!
(and btw, i own note 10.1 and Nexus 10)
bee55 said:
In regards to the art usage: the iPad 4's screen has better color reproduction (95% sRGB color gamut and 65% Adobe RGB gamut according to Anandtech).
Also as far as I know the Note 10.1's digitiser supports pressure sensitivity, which might be a bonus for you, so that might be worthy of consideration as well. However there is a stylus for the iPad which 'enables' pressure sensitivity by sending pressure data to specially optimised apps (Sketchbook included) through bluetooth, though I'm not sure how accurate that is.
Edit: The stylus is the Jot Touch.
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iPad3 and 4 use a Samsung display so no need to hype it. The Samsung Nexus 10 display is the same quality or better and higher resolution.
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nirurin said:
Yeh, I considered the note. Problem was, it didn't really wow me. Ignoring the whole touchwiz and other Samsung bloat ware id have to remove somehow, it's the same price as a nexus 10 but with less power and a worse screen.
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Don't underestimate the Note 10.1. It's powerful and while the screen is lower resolution I prefer the colors, black level, white, uniformity, etc. over the Nexus 10. I own both.
Of the the three you mentioned, it's no contest.
#1 Galaxy Note 10.1
#2 Nexus 10
They have 2GB DRAM to run more capable paint programs such as TVPaint. Check out the full beta demo.
iPad4 is not even a consideration with only 1GB where you're limited to toyish Paper like apps and no proper Wacom digitizer pen.
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Yeh, I considered the note. Problem was, it didn't really wow me. Ignoring the whole touchwiz and other Samsung bloat ware id have to remove somehow, it's the same price as a nexus 10 but with less power and a worse screen.
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The Note 10.1 on stock JB is plenty fast. It's the only tablet on the market with an inductive (vs. capacitive) display which is crucial to drawing. It's got a Wacom digitizer with 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity and palm rejection. It also has an optional drawing pen with an eraser built in to it. The display on the Note is quite good in terms of brightness, contrast and color reproduction. The only thing lacking is PPI. Two advantages of the lower-res display are app compatibility (do you know the drawing programs you want to use even work on the N10?) and far better battery life. And some of that "bloatware" is quite useful like multiview, S-Note, AllShare Play and Cast, and Color Picker which lets you pick a pen color from a photo and Pen Chooser which lets you toggle between different pens you've set without opening settings each time. You're the first person I've seen who needs a pen to dis the Note. For someone who could care less about the pen and the Note's additional features the N10 is a better value.
There are tons of artists using the Note. Here's a thread you might find interesting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861201
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The Note 10.1 on stock JB is plenty fast. It's the only tablet on the market with an inductive (vs. capacitive) display which is crucial to drawing. It's got a Wacom digitizer with 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity and palm rejection. It also has an optional drawing pen with an eraser built in to it. The display on the Note is quite good in terms of brightness, contrast and color reproduction. The only thing lacking is PPI. Two advantages of the lower-res display are app compatibility (do you know the drawing programs you want to use even work on the N10?) and far better battery life. And some of that "bloatware" is quite useful like multiview, S-Note, AllShare Play and Cast, and Color Picker which lets you pick a pen color from a photo and Pen Chooser which lets you toggle between different pens you've set without opening settings each time. You're the first person I've seen who needs a pen to dis the Note. For someone who could care less about the pen and the Note's additional features the N10 is a better value.
There are tons of artists using the Note. Here's a thread you might find interesting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861201
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Ok in hindsight, I may have been quick to write-off the note10, at the time of posting I was on a break at work and rather tired haha. One of the reasons I was thinking of avoiding the note was its age... I thought it had been released long enough ago that it would be soon due an update. However, I just checked... and it only came out mid-august... so I think I must have been thinking of the note phones.
Even though I currently do not use pressure sensitivity at all... this doesn't mean it wouldnt be a good idea for me to start incorporating it, I dont want to get stuck in my ways or anything!!
In which case, does the note10 have the power and ability to multi-task floating apps (chat and/or videos) while running drawing programs? If so... I may have to look into places that are doing deals on the note. As of my last look, it was selling for the same price as the nexus10, which is why I thought the nexus was the better "bang for the buck"...
The reason I'm looking at new powerful devices is because I want this to be future-proofed against anything I might need it for for the next couple of years (the same amount of time my trusty ipad1 lasted me). I figured I was safe with the nexus, because of the custom ROMS that would be made for it, with it being the main tablet release of the season.
edit: turns out that, while both the basic Note and the basic Nexus are retailing at £319, I am possibly able to get the note for £279... which means a decent case and any cable accessories are essentially "free"... Which is a big plus.
I need to find some information on the quality of the screen, as it is relatively very low resolution compared to the competition.. barely more than my original iPad1 in fact?
edit 2: unfortunatly, I can only get it in white for that price lol. Shame.
edit 3: hmm... Seems I can also get a white note 10.1 for £253, as long as I also buy a case with it (which I always intended to anyway)... so this seems a bargain as long as they sell a decent case... the white ones must look horrible though, if its the only ones anyone is selling off cheap!!
If you can wait a good half year I'm sure a 2560*1600 Note will come out, hopefully around 12", which would be the perfect buy, but personally I just can't wait to get my hands on the Nexus 10. If drawing is important, go for the Note, there's no real alternative.
BoneXDA said:
If you can wait a good half year I'm sure a 2560*1600 Note will come out, hopefully around 12", which would be the perfect buy, but personally I just can't wait to get my hands on the Nexus 10. If drawing is important, go for the Note, there's no real alternative.
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This is true, though money is also a factor, and I have now found a "grey" (least its not bright white, though I may have to check it out in store sometime) note 10.1 for £268. Which isn't bad.
Its just whether I would rather spend £50 more, and get nexus. A screen thats got twice the resolution, and a significantly faster processor, would mean being safely future proofed. I'll have to decide just how much the pressure-sensitivity is worth to me..
As someone else mentioning in above, if drawing with pen is important factor for you, I believe neither Nexus 10 or iPad 4 may be the best answer. I am not familiar with drawing but Vector drawing may not require high accuracy/pen-paper feeling, if so I believe Nexus 10 or iPad 4 be great as they have phenomenal screen resolution to display your art.
Otherwise, two options:
1. Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1
It has inductive pen technology i.e. you can get the feeling of pen and paper. Downside is screen resolution. Though coming from original iPad, you will unlikely to notice the screen resolution difference. So it may be ok. Otherwise, very stable and speedy device.
2. Samsung Ativ Smart PC
This is Windows 8 Atom processor based tablet. It comes with Wacom stylus, runs real windows 8 i.e. you should be able to run most of windows native software, and if you like you can buy optional keyboard to make it to like real laptop. The downside with this is price - expensive even considering 64GB internal storage. Windows 8 is great for legacy program, but tablet wise still lacking application. Screen resolution is essentially same as Galaxy Note 10.1 i.e. not the level of Nexus 10 or iPad 4.
HoushaSen said:
As someone else mentioning in above, if drawing with pen is important factor for you, I believe neither Nexus 10 or iPad 4 may be the best answer. I am not familiar with drawing but Vector drawing may not require high accuracy/pen-paper feeling, if so I believe Nexus 10 or iPad 4 be great as they have phenomenal screen resolution to display your art.
Otherwise, two options:
1. Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1
It has inductive pen technology i.e. you can get the feeling of pen and paper. Downside is screen resolution. Though coming from original iPad, you will unlikely to notice the screen resolution difference. So it may be ok. Otherwise, very stable and speedy device.
2. Samsung Ativ Smart PC
This is Windows 8 Atom processor based tablet. It comes with Wacom stylus, runs real windows 8 i.e. you should be able to run most of windows native software, and if you like you can buy optional keyboard to make it to like real laptop. The downside with this is price - expensive even considering 64GB internal storage. Windows 8 is great for legacy program, but tablet wise still lacking application. Screen resolution is essentially same as Galaxy Note 10.1 i.e. not the level of Nexus 10 or iPad 4.
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Thanks for the idea, but the Ativ is way too expensive, pretty much 3x the cost of the Note. I am but a poor boy, from a poor family... (insert head banging music here)...
I use vectors because it makes it easier to resize and edit work afterwords (compared to bitmap images). The reason the pen doesnt matter for the iPad, is because you can use a "Pen" tool, essentially dragging and dropping and editing lines, without directly drawing them. This is accurate, though a little time consuming, though because of the constant zooming in-and-out that you need to do for fine detail work it works out for the best.
Having the S-Pen is not a selling point to me exactly... but if it works well, and I learn to use it, it can only improve my overall work... and that would make it worth the money in itself.
One issue with capacitive screens was the accuracy, as even stylus' need to be around fingertip-size in order to register. If the S-Pen is much more "pointy" (i will need to investigate this) then it would immediately be helpful... much less zooming in and out to get accurate lines...
nirurin said:
Thanks for the idea, but the Ativ is way too expensive, pretty much 3x the cost of the Note. I am but a poor boy, from a poor family... (insert head banging music here)...
I use vectors because it makes it easier to resize and edit work afterwords (compared to bitmap images). The reason the pen doesnt matter for the iPad, is because you can use a "Pen" tool, essentially dragging and dropping and editing lines, without directly drawing them. This is accurate, though a little time consuming, though because of the constant zooming in-and-out that you need to do for fine detail work it works out for the best.
Having the S-Pen is not a selling point to me exactly... but if it works well, and I learn to use it, it can only improve my overall work... and that would make it worth the money in itself.
One issue with capacitive screens was the accuracy, as even stylus' need to be around fingertip-size in order to register. If the S-Pen is much more "pointy" (i will need to investigate this) then it would immediately be helpful... much less zooming in and out to get accurate lines...
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3x price is Ativ Smart Pro. I am talking about Ativ PC, which is Atom processor not i5. It is 649 without keyboard dock. Cons against Pro is inferior CPU/GPU, no Full HD screen, 2GB memory instead of 4GB. However, it has its benefit which are long battery life, relatively light weight.
But if you don't need Spen/Wacom, I think you can't go wrong with either Nexus 10 or iPad 4. It's really depends on what ecosystem you like. If you really have very specific task/goal you like to achieve, and it already works well on iOS platform, I say stick with it as it saves you money if you already own apps for it.
Personally, I needed more flexibility than iOS so went to Android. Now I saw even more flexibility option available i.e. real windows, so I jumped on it.
HoushaSen said:
3x price is Ativ Smart Pro. I am talking about Ativ PC, which is Atom processor not i5. It is 649 without keyboard dock. Cons against Pro is inferior CPU/GPU, no Full HD screen, 2GB memory instead of 4GB. However, it has its benefit which are long battery life, relatively light weight.
But if you don't need Spen/Wacom, I think you can't go wrong with either Nexus 10 or iPad 4. It's really depends on what ecosystem you like. If you really have very specific task/goal you like to achieve, and it already works well on iOS platform, I say stick with it as it saves you money if you already own apps for it.
Personally, I needed more flexibility than iOS so went to Android. Now I saw even more flexibility option available i.e. real windows, so I jumped on it.
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Well £649 is still more than double the Note10.1 price (I can get it for £268 at the moment), and I already have a very nice laptop for the high-end stuff
I bought the iPAd back when I had an iphone3GS. Now though, I have a GalaxyS2... so it almost seems fitting to try out an android tablet. And the multi-windows support and dual-view on the Note looks much more interesting than the same-old iOS stuff that I'm already used to. Even jailbroken, theres only so much you can do with an iPad (I should know, ive done it already!)
As long as the android tablets arent inherantly broken in some way (I keep hearing about issues with light leakages and stuff on the nexus, but might just be from a bad batch), I am more tempted by the android side of things. There might be less apps at the moment, but it will catch up soon enough, and the ability to play around with widgets etc makes it seem more interesting as a day-to-day tool.
True, I will be losing out on... maybe £20-£30 of apps from the apple store. But some of those were bought months ago, and in the scheme of things its not much of a big deal. If I ever go back to an iPad 5 or 6 in the future, they will still be there for me (I assume).
edit: didnt finish my point. If the androids are both well built ect, it seems I will go for one of them. And because of the price, the multi-view, and the potential benefit of the SPen, the Note is currently edging ahead slightly.
nirurin said:
Well £649 is still more than double the Note10.1 price (I can get it for £268 at the moment), and I already have a very nice laptop for the high-end stuff
I bought the iPAd back when I had an iphone3GS. Now though, I have a GalaxyS2... so it almost seems fitting to try out an android tablet. And the multi-windows support and dual-view on the Note looks much more interesting than the same-old iOS stuff that I'm already used to. Even jailbroken, theres only so much you can do with an iPad (I should know, ive done it already!)
As long as the android tablets arent inherantly broken in some way (I keep hearing about issues with light leakages and stuff on the nexus, but might just be from a bad batch), I am more tempted by the android side of things. There might be less apps at the moment, but it will catch up soon enough, and the ability to play around with widgets etc makes it seem more interesting as a day-to-day tool.
True, I will be losing out on... maybe £20-£30 of apps from the apple store. But some of those were bought months ago, and in the scheme of things its not much of a big deal. If I ever go back to an iPad 5 or 6 in the future, they will still be there for me (I assume).
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Well sounds like your mind is set to Android ecosystem, which is great. I personally love it. Multiwindow support of Galaxy Note 10.1 is great concept but just to warn you. It is not true multitasking i.e. if you think about doing your Vector thing, or even play game and browse, that won't work. Simply because Multitasking on Note 10.1 is limited to selected applications which are browser, S-note, Video, email etc. But not every apps. But considering hardware limitation and 10.1 inch screen, I think it's reasonable to have selected app to be supported. Personally, the biggest sales point of Note 10.1 was its stability, speed, and S-pen.
If you need true multitasking, you need Windows Tablet, but if you are from iPad I am certain it is not your top priority. By the way, I don't know Euro. But Ativ Smart PC 64GB sells $649 here in US and Galaxy Note 10.1 32GB sells for $499 thus total price difference is US$150. Again whether the cost difference is worth or not depends on your use.
mi7chy said:
iPad3 and 4 use a Samsung display so no need to hype it. The Samsung Nexus 10 display is the same quality or better and higher resolution.
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Don't underestimate the Note 10.1. It's powerful and while the screen is lower resolution I prefer the colors, black level, white, uniformity, etc. over the Nexus 10. I own both.
Of the the three you mentioned, it's no contest.
#1 Galaxy Note 10.1
#2 Nexus 10
They have 2GB DRAM to run more capable paint programs such as TVPaint. Check out the full beta demo.
iPad4 is not even a consideration with only 1GB where you're limited to toyish Paper like apps and no proper Wacom digitizer pen.
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As I'm sure you are aware, we weren't talking about who manufactured the displays, but rather about their quality. If you take your time to watch or read any review which compares the iPad 4's display to the N10's one, you will see that the iPad's color reproduction is visibly better. Now also while RAM might matter in the comparison of Android devices, the iPad runs a quite different OS and I'm pretty sure the 'only' 1GB RAM wouldn't be a bottleneck for these apps; it would probably be memory bandwidth and CPU power.
This said I have just placed my order on a Nexus 10 and I strongly prefer Android to iOS, yet I have to admit that the iPad has it's strengths as well (I've actually been considering getting an iPad 4 instead of the N10 because of the superior app selection, but as I love my SGS3 and Android itself I've decided to get the N10 and just hope that more tablet apps will start to appear for Android).
HoushaSen said:
Well sounds like your mind is set to Android ecosystem, which is great. I personally love it. Multiwindow support of Galaxy Note 10.1 is great concept but just to warn you. It is not true multitasking i.e. if you think about doing your Vector thing, or even play game and browse, that won't work. Simply because Multitasking on Note 10.1 is limited to selected applications which are browser, S-note, Video, email etc. But not every apps. But considering hardware limitation and 10.1 inch screen, I think it's reasonable to have selected app to be supported. Personally, the biggest sales point of Note 10.1 was its stability, speed, and S-pen.
If you need true multitasking, you need Windows Tablet, but if you are from iPad I am certain it is not your top priority. By the way, I don't know Euro. But Ativ Smart PC 64GB sells $649 here in US and Galaxy Note 10.1 32GB sells for $499 thus total price difference is US$150. Again whether the cost difference is worth or not depends on your use.
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The cheapest I can find in the UK (on google anyway), ignoring eBay, is over £600. Not sure why this would be.
There is a thread on the Note forum where someone has made it possible to add the multi-window support to a lot of other apps by altering their .apk, in a fairly easy process. Probably wont work with every app, but still. Anyway, while I'm drawing the most I would want is a chat app running, and I believe LilypadHD does that as a floating app anyway? (though this works on the Nexus as well, no need for a Note for it.)
I dont plan to be playing games much anyway, if at all.
It seems the note has a fair few nice apps that samsung has put on it, and the pen itself of course. The only reason im still umming and ahhing is the Nexus; sexy high def screen and powerhouse of a processor.
Although if I'm not going to use it to its potential (eg gaming, i guess) then maybe its a waste.
nirurin said:
The cheapest I can find in the UK (on google anyway), ignoring eBay, is over £600. Not sure why this would be.
There is a thread on the Note forum where someone has made it possible to add the multi-window support to a lot of other apps by altering their .apk, in a fairly easy process. Probably wont work with every app, but still. Anyway, while I'm drawing the most I would want is a chat app running, and I believe LilypadHD does that as a floating app anyway? (though this works on the Nexus as well, no need for a Note for it.)
I dont plan to be playing games much anyway, if at all.
It seems the note has a fair few nice apps that samsung has put on it, and the pen itself of course. The only reason im still umming and ahhing is the Nexus; sexy high def screen and powerhouse of a processor.
Although if I'm not going to use it to its potential (eg gaming, i guess) then maybe its a waste.
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Wow $600 for Ativ Smart PC is definitely a lot... Wonder if the price is raised from retail due to short supply. In any event, Note 10.1 is phenomenal device. Nexus 10 is great device as well and I seriously put a thought onto it before. It is great but at the same time unfortunate that in this era of tablet, there are so many options yet no system is perfect/completely superior to others. Nexus 10 IS unfortunately not my choice (note it is present tense as may change in the future) because of lack of microSD, keyboard dock, and Wacom digitizer. I had to return Note 10.1 only because of lack of screen resolution, which I did not notice if I went straight from iPad 2 to Note 10.1. But I had Infinity in between so Full HD resolution was just too hard to give it up.
If you don't play game, the time you will notice the difference in resolution is reading text e.g. kindle, browser etc. The text is just so much more crisp. You just really need to list the features that you want, and the purpose of the tablet you are using for. Because you will unavoidably have to make a comprise to one or two features. In my case with Ativ Smart PC, I am compromising screen resolution, and some tablet optimized application availability. I'm looking forward to Surface Pro, but even with it I am compromising battery life, and weight.... Good luck on your search.
Note 10.1 please don't east your time with the others they don't have a digitizer surface for wacom pressure sensative pens.
And the Res does not matter because you will zoom in and out. I own a wacom tablet and it nothing like my nexus 10 for sketching.
The only pen option you have for I pad and nexus is the go smart stylus has a spring ed tip
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mi7chy said:
Of the the three you mentioned, it's no contest.
#1 Galaxy Note 10.1
#2 Nexus 10
They have 2GB DRAM to run more capable paint programs such as TVPaint. Check out the full beta demo.
iPad4 is not even a consideration with only 1GB where you're limited to toyish Paper like apps and no proper Wacom digitizer pen.
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Hello guys,
I have a nexus 10 and like it, but for painting/drawing, imo it is crap compared to an ipad.
Try signing your name as quickly as you normally would. You will hardly be able to recognise your handwriting. The nexus 10 samples the stylus position way too infrequently, and the "tweening" that takes place, drastically smooths out the direction of your stylus strokes.
Ive tried Sketchpad, Infinite Paint, Gnotes, other painting tools, and they all suffer the same problem.
My SGS3 is a LOT better as is my wife's i****e 4s.
David Hockey created huge wall murals for his amazing exhibition at the Royal Academy of Art this year. They were done on an ipad... so at the moment, I would say iPad is superior for painting. Nexus 10 is crap and I have no experience of the tweening problem on the Note 10.1.
Mark.

Nvidia GRID?

do you guys think this tablet will have the GRID support? considering the nvidia built cpu and gpu?
Old post to answer but from what I've read, probably not.
Google has limited OpenGL on the N9 unlike the Shield.
One other thing to remember is the N9 does not have a heat sink to aide heat migration away from CPU/GPU so heat build up is a issue after a good length of time on the N9.
I can play half life on Shield until end of game without heat building up on back side so bad I'd comment on it, where as on N9 I doubt you can do the same.
Clearly Google didn't have gaming in mind with the N9, but more so regular media consumption like web an movies IMHO.
Trade offs, a guy almost needs both tablets
Ftr, I tossed an turned which tablet to buy a good many days but settled on local instant satisfaction as Shield LTE was in stock an a fair bit cheaper but with maybe more options.
I still want a LTE N9, but for regular usage, not gaming.
YMMV.
WR

Is There Any VR Related Hardware For Our Nvidia Shield Tablet?

hey,
i have a vr headset for my galaxy s5 and it works pretty well, but some games stutter and lag in places because i think the phone is struggling
it would be great if there were a headset that would suit our tablets because of the larger screen and more horsepower
but i have not been able to find one
is there one around for the shield tablet?
cheers
crispy raing said:
hey,
i have a vr headset for my galaxy s5 and it works pretty well, but some games stutter and lag in places because i think the phone is struggling
it would be great if there were a headset that would suit our tablets because of the larger screen and more horsepower
but i have not been able to find one
is there one around for the shield tablet?
cheers
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Man, don't you think using a tablet on your face is a little exaggerated? Plus, the Shield Tablet is so heavy you'd probably have a neck pain within 5 minutes of use lol
But anyway, I found this http://www.roadtovr.com/vr-viewer-7-inch-tablets-vr-headset-hmd/
And this https://www.durovis.com/product.html?id=5
These are made for 7 inch tablets, but I think they might fit a Sheid.
Alternatively, you could download the Google Cardboard Schemes and make them bigger while using the same size lens. But yeah, still think VR on a tablet isn't a good option. Still, good luck
I agree, shield tablet is too heavy to use for VR Headset, unless you are willing to suffer the consequences of discomfort and neckpain while using the device attached to your head ..
A solution to neckpain (though maybe not discomfort) could be lying on your back. A solution to both could be a gooseneck tablet holder. I have this one though I think this one would be better since the EasyAcc one bounces around like none other when the tablet or gooseneck gets bumped. None of these solutions are ideal though
Redundant links in case you're having trouble with the ones in the text
Amazon Search: http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&fie...dex=blended&link_code=qs&tag=wwwcanoniccom-20
EasyAcc tablet holder (the one I own): http://www.amazon.com/EasyAcc-Goose...92228&sr=8-1&keywords=gooseneck+tablet+holder
TacTronics tablet holder (this one would be better for VR applications): http://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-TT...92228&sr=8-3&keywords=gooseneck+tablet+holder
You could counter balance it at least the weight would be equally distributed.
Hi,
I'm a Rift DK2 Owner since Aug 14, a Rift CV1 pre-order and into VR since over 2 years.
What I know so far about VR... forget it, that didn't work, never. The main problem alone is the low DPI of the Shield tablet. Use VR lenses and you could count the pixels that you see easily. The Samsung Galaxy S5, that you can use with GearVR, have a much higher DPI and is OLED, what is also much better for VR (low latency and low persistence is only possible with OLED). Only that it is a pentile and not a RGB OLED is a not so good...
The Shield is too big, so the 1200p display have a too low DPI and it is much too heavy. Too bad I can't weight it here, but when I put it on my hands I would say the Shield K1 weight more than my Rift DK2. ^^
That only thing that would be good for VR is the power of the shield, but that is useless without the right display and size of it. The shield have a 8" display, that is over 2" too big for VR (Rift DK2 have a Samsung Note 3 display, that have 5,7", your galaxy s5 have only 5,1").
But I must also say: actually mobile VR is only a gimmick compared to PC VR, the technology on mobile is by far not good enough for right VR experiences. The only really mobile VR experiences that is ok but still far away from PC is GearVR with one of the Samsung S6 models. But even that have no positional tracking, only headtracking and that is too less for real VR.
DrRetro said:
Hi,
The Shield is too big, so the 1200p display have a too low DPI and it is much too heavy. Too bad I can't weight it here, but when I put it on my hands I would say the Shield K1 weight more than my Rift DK2. ^^
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Nvidia Shield K1: 356g
Occulus Rift DK2: 380 grams ... make that 440g with the cable included
For some reason you seem to be using a hopelessly heavy VR headset and you still love it, curious.

HP ELITE X2 1011 G1 with Remix OS

https://youtu.be/Pyirjs2WQ64
http://wp.me/p1U9wP-H my review of the tablet now
Will copy paste here too
Review of a tablet from a user point of view
https://youtu.be/Pyirjs2WQ64
There may be various uses of a tablet
Major uses :
GAMES on a big screen
BOOK reading
NOTE taking
MEDIA consumption
So what are the features of an ideal tablet:
SOLID BATTERY LIFE
EXCELLENT SCREEN QUALITY
EXCELLENT CPU AND GPU
GOOD STYLUS SUPPORT
3G/4G SUPPORT for data
today i will review an extremely unknown tablet that comes close to being an ideal tablet!
THE tablet am talking about is the HP ELITE X2 1011 G1!
Specifications are as below
CPU 1.2 GHz Intel Core M-5Y71
Operating System Windows 8.1 Pro
RAM 8GB
RAM Upgradable to
Hard Drive Size 256GB SSD
Hard Drive Speed
Hard Drive Type SSD Drive
Secondary Hard Drive Size
Secondary Hard Drive Speed
Secondary Hard Drive Type
Display Size 11.6
Native Resolution 1920x1080
Optical Drive None
Optical Drive Speed
Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics 5300
Video Memory
Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g/n/ac
Wi-Fi Model Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.0
Mobile Broadband YES
Touchpad Size 2 x 3.5 inches
Ports (excluding USB) USB 3.0
Ports (excluding USB) DisplayPort
Ports (excluding USB) Headphone
Ports (excluding USB) Proprietary
USB Ports 2
Warranty/Support 1 year limited warranty, 1 year limited warranty on primary battery
Size 11.73 x 8.04 x 0.82 in (tablet with power keyboard), 11. 73 x 7.58 x 0.42 (tablet)
Weight Tablet: 1.92 pounds, Power Keyboard 1.71 pounds, 3.63 pounds combined total
Company Website http://www.hp.com
Now why exactly am crazy about this tablet?
first i will tell you a brief history of devices i owned, dunno from where to start, ok lemme list it chronologically according to acquisition:
Galaxy Tab 2
Nexus 7 first gen
Samsung Ativ SMart PC 500T
Blackberry playbook
Nexus 7 2nd gen
Ipad 3 64gb wifi cellular
ipad mini 32gb wifi cellular
Ipad Air 1st gen
Samsung Ativ Smart PC XE700
Microsoft Surface Pro 2 core i5
Microsoft surface Pro 3 core i5 128gb
Asus T300 Chi 128gb
Teclast X98 air 3G dual boot
HP elite X2 1011 G1
Out of the above few devices have been sold and bought twice like Tab2, Nexus 7 2nd gen and iPad 3.
Then i will tell you that i didnt buy it at the MRP suggested by the company, i bought it for 40K INR, if you buy it for the suggested price of 90K then it will absolutely kill the purpose of this review. The recent prices are extremely cheap and i will drop few links below.i got it through a ebay india dealer who usually imports and sells at a reasonable prices in India.
Now the primary aim of a tablet is mobility and long battery life which is primary aim, apart from that my usage is focussed on reading pdf ebooks and scribbling over them so STYLUS SUPPORT IS MUST FOR ME. If you see the above list of devices i used then you will come to know that i used all sorts of styluses from passive wacom ones in SURAFCE PRO 2 and NOTE series phones, to active N TRIG one on SURFACE PRO 3 to SYNAPTICS stylus on ASUS T300 Chi.
Active styluses are better as proposed by most digital artists and i do agree, the wacom passive ones are not enough accurate towards the edge of the screens but after using them all i can tell you i am inclined towards the passive ones with good pressure sensitivity
no need of idiotic AAAA batteries which are damn costly and not widely available either
if your stylus has more tech inside the more chance of defects as happened with me!! The synaptics stylus was particularly irritating and the N trig stylus drained batteries
So in my usage case of writing notes i prefer WACOM PASSIVE STYLUS, obviously your mileage may vary depending on your usage pattern or priority.
Comparative Specs post mortem:
STORAGE:
If you want a big storage space and a tablet it will cost you loads of money, just think of the prices of ipads with bigger storages. Mine has 256 gb SSD and a very fast one too.
CELLULAR SUPPORT:
Now this also is an extremely important aspect for a tablet and if someone avoids one then the reason is mostly INDOOR usage scenario or Less frequent travelling and presence of wifi hotspots in your destinations but round the clock data acccess is a very essential part of a tablet.
Here you will see various companies charging exorbitantly for a cellular modem. Mine comes with 3G modem built in and works nicely though non 3G versions do exist.
BUILD QUALITY:
Now this is a very interesting aspect that i need to tell you, why the hell do you think i changed devices like surface pro 3 and Asus T300 chi? both are sexy as anything and extremely feature rich.....
Answer to above is both the tablets screens cracked on slightest impact as i couldnt get a case for both in india at that point of time so it cost me a lot of money for using SEXY devices so i decided no more again. The pro 3 was just kept from few inches from the ground while inside the backpack and T300 chi screen broke when a friend by mistake applied some torsion on the tablet while still connected to the keyboards.
HERE comes the HP ELITE X2 1011 with military grade build quality and mlg specifications and i have peace of mind while i carry these in my back pack with a minor padding. ITS NOT A GIMMICK AS ITS BUILT TO LAST
SCREEN QUALITY:
From the onset i will tell you the first negative of this tablet SCREEN LOOKS WASHED as it doesnt have the same colour gamut of the ipad or galaxy tab s2 etc.
This i corrected using intel graphics software thats there in windows side of this tablet
Now did i just say windows side of the tablet???? OMG somethings wrong with me, this one just comes with Windows Professional out of the box right? ok may be i am cranky right now.
TEXT INPUT MODES:
Now i see most people wanting to buy a aftermarket keyboard for using with their tablets but the original manufacturer only meant them to be TOUCH ONLY devices for media consumption and not for DOING ANY "REAL WORK"(oops this line is so cliche right now among various OS fanboys)
So how does my Tablet fare here? it comes with a POWER KEYBOARD with a awesome keyboard
has 2 USB ports
AUDIO out 3.5mm port
Smart card reader( immaterial to me)
Finger print scanner that is as good as in laptop worlds though old swiping tech and not just Touch tech as introduced in iphone onwards and now ubiquitious
Mini display port
Extra battery though a bit smaller than the one inside the tablet( i am intentionally leaving out the specs part not to make it too technical as its just a user point of view) this extra battery almost gives me half the battery life that the tablet battery gives
So i think its an awesome accessory to have and was included in my deal, remember ASUS T300 Chi keyboard was bluetooth one so unusable inside BIOS settings and you just have to pray that the display touch never stops working else forget about BIOS tinkering(though i somehow managed to buy a extra usb keyboard and used the micro usb port to change few settings but it was irritating as my tablet crashed and i had to run to market to buy a KB to do a clean windows install)
PROCESSING POWER:
My model comes with Core M 5y71 with 8gb ram and 256 gb HDD. few years back i was of the notion of buying the fastest and the best thinking thats the thing i should have and i will keep that thing for more than a year but i found benchmarks and reviews showing benchmarks are for nerdgasm and only cater to fanboy fanaticism.
I never had used my gadgets to proper or maximal use as i was constantly worried about battery dying on me. I realised in due course that any portable gadgets achilees heel will be its battery. So my gadget buying decisions are always oriented to battery life than absolute best performance. I have reduced my GAS (GEAR ACQUISITION SYNDROME) after i used a hell lot of GAS
Anyways the processor is more than adequate in everyday tasks and portability in mind. This is no surface book...
OS:
I had this TAblet since almost 5 months but why am i reviewing it now?
Ok, it came with Windows 8 Professional and immediately i upgraded it to Windows 10. I was a part of the INSIDER PROGRAM and used to keep my tablet in the Fast or slow ring depending on my wifi speeds
I used to use all desktop apps and many apps from the Windows Store, but something within me was always itching to ditch windows and go for some OS with more apps even though am not a avid user of any specific apps but that feeling of extremely few apps when you are browsing the store used to irritate me.
I then looked into Bluestacks player....... Bull **** on this processor cpu/gpu with stutters as its demanding app and runs within windows
Then came AMIDUOS much better than Bluestacks for this processor and usable for all apps but fluidity was missing and games were still a no go
Tried few times to get Android X86 to work but the enterprise security that comes with this tablet didnt like the install and i couldnt go ahead in selecting the usb drive
Then similar situation with Remix OS 2.0 failed
So days just passed by and then i saw Remix OS 3.0 marshmallow variant being introduced and reluctantly i downloaded it. The file now comes with its own installer, i double clicked it and accepted next and voila, bootloader got installed and a single restart took me to OS selection screen..... WOWWWWW
Remix os on tablets simply rocks and the Android OS simply flies on this hardware with 8GB ram and processor
all games open instantly and its just like native android OS here, everything just works except wacom pen digitizer in android environment(i can live with that )
there are some cons to this tablet cum pc too will list them some other time for now sayonara.......
Sounds very interesting. Was the installation straightforward?
i just try remix os on hp elite x2.it works well so far

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