Summing up the band support questions - LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

T-Mobile - 2, 4, 5, 12 (3, 7, and 20 also listed on website)
AT&T - 2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 29, 30 (1 and 3 also listed on website)
Verizon - 2, 4, 5, 7, 13 (3 also listed on website)
FCC approved these bands to be used by each model. If it's not an approved band (i.e. tested) it shouldn't be able to be activated. Now the hardware is probably identical, so you may be able to reflash the modem or whatever to the correct carrier, but without doing that, I can't imagine them working across each network fully.
AT&T model should have no problem going to T-Mobile (supports all 4 bands).
AT&T model likely won't work well going to Verizon (7 seems hit or miss on importance, 13 seems pretty important for 700MHz).
Verizon model should kinda work on T-Mobile (except 700MHz on 12, eek).
Verizon model likely won't work well going to AT&T (no 12 or 17 support).
T-Mobile model should be functional going to AT&T (17 is redundant with 12, 29 seems rare, 30 is nowhere as of Sept 2015).
T-Mobile model likely won't work well going to Verizon (7 seems hit or miss on importance, 13 seems pretty important for 700MHz).

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[Q] The EXACT bands of Nexus 9 LTE

I searched many times of websites on the lte bands of nexus 9 lte, but no, I've not got an exact spec of the lte bands that Nexus 9 LTE supports.
Until now I've got details of it from ht##tp://ww##w.bh##photovideo.c##om/c/product/1087410-REG/htc_99hzj002_00_nexus_9_volantis_32gb.html which the bands are
2.5G (EDGE, GSM/GPRS) MHz:850, 900, 1800, 1900
3.5G (HSPA+, UMTS/WCDMA) MHz:850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100
3.5G (CDMA2000, EV-DO) MHz:850, 1900
4G (LTE) Bands:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 19, 25, 26, 41
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Now I'm sure whether this is right, are they the exact bands of Nexus 9 LTE?
I've got a Nexus 9 LTE from US to China, all three carriers have deployed either TDD-LTE or FDD-LTE, so I'm wondering whether I can use the LTE network with Nexus 9 LTE in China.
According to the specs above, it seems that it would work at TDD-LTE band 41 which China Mobile supplies, but I only got an EDGE with the 4G-SIM card inserted.
However China Unicom gives FDD-LTE band 3 network and China Telecom gives FDD-LTE band 1 network. Only lack of experiments.
The supported bands might be different depending on where the device is bought.
From the HTC site: http://www.htc.com/us/tablets/nexus-9/
Network (see note below)
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - WCDMA:
850/900/AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
4G - LTE:
Bands 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,20
NOTE: Network bands in regions may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location. 4G LTE only available in select countries. Upload and download speeds also depend on the mobile operator.
Built-in memory and connectivity vary by model. Wi-Fi only Nexus 9 features 16GB memory, and LTE Nexus 9 model features 32GB. Please see your local carrier for complete details.
data point for you: i have t-mobile spec nexus 9 bought in us. in hong kong a csl sim shows lte data status. speedtest showed 20mbit up and 20mbit down so i think its working fine. csl web site said bands 3 and 7 iirc.
csl web site: https://www.hkcsl.com/en/index.html
I actually clicked more than one website to bring you this info.
CZ Eddie said:
Looks like it's back in stock at store.htc.com for $359 for the LTE.
http://store.htc.com/store?Action=C...104_G - US - NAM - HTC - PS - Tablet - B&Ps=1
So from my Internet searching, here are the differences between the Nexus 9 LTE International vs. the USA device.
Nexus 9 Part# 0P82200 (EU/ASIA) handles LTE bands 1,2,3 ,4,5,7,8, 20
Nexus 9 Part# 0P82300 (US) handlesLTE bands 2, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 41
What does this mean to us in the USA?
It means that if you buy the USA Nexus 9 then you're good to go for all USA major carriers.
But if you buy the International Nexus 9, then you're hurting yourself as follows:
Verizon missing band 13 (which it uses for most of its LTE).
AT&T missing band 17.
T-Mobile missing band 12.
Sprint missing all LTE bands.
US Cellular missing band 12.
Here is a list of what USA carriers use which bands:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/0...sm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/
Oddly enough, the HTC USA website indicates that the Nexus 9 LTE it sells is capable of only the International bands listed above.
So I called HTC @ 866 449 8358 on 12/26/2015 @ 12:30PM CST and spoke with "Daniel" who advised that if I'm in the USA and purchase from the USA HTC website, then I will be shipped the USA version of this tablet.
Price$359.00
Shipping$0.00
Tax$29.65
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Total$389.05
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Now available in the US!

Just got an email from Asus with this link...
http://www.zenfone.org/2016/09/zenfone-3-deluxe-now-available-to-buy-from-amazon-in-usa/
Now available from Amazon but only thing is, 64gb and silver is the only choice.
If/when we have a bootloader unlock method, or possibly if the 256gb version shows up, then I'll buy. Don't know what I'd do with an android phone without root. (6p user)
I'm willing to bet the hardware will be exactly the same inside, similar to the Axon 7.
Maybe a similar sort of root method will be available? Fingers crossed...
does it work with the europe frequencies?
martinmagnus said:
does it work with the europe frequencies?
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My understanding is yes, it supports Europe frequencies.
From Asus website
WW version
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 20, 26, 28, 29, 30)
TDD-LTE (Bands 38, 39, 40, 41*)
(* B41 support 2545 ~2655 MHz)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 5, 6, 8,19)
TD-SCDMA (Bands 34, 39)
CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (BC0)
GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
ASUS phone 4G/LTE band compatibility varies by region, please check compatibility with local carriers.
Rhokk said:
If/when we have a bootloader unlock method, or possibly if the 256gb version shows up, then I'll buy.
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Considering the ASUS official bootloader unlock tool is available for the regular Zenfone 3 (since Sep 29), I'm willing to bet the Deluxe one is coming very soon.

LTE problem

I bought mate 10 lite 5 days ago from Lebanon and when I'm back to Egypt my home land I discovered that the device LTE bands are not compatible with the network in Egypt.
Is there anyway to solve this issue, or add bands or customize it
My phone is L21
Thanks in advance
The bands covered are a function of the chipset, not the firmware - so there's no possibility of upgrading/modifying/customising your existing device.
According to GSMArena, there are two versions of the Mate 10 Lite - one (presumably the variety you have) which covers LTE bands 1, 3, 7, 8 and 20, and one which is more international and covers LTE bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28, 38, 40 and 41.

US version missing US LTE bands?

Just chatted with Nokia support, and the rep states that the US model has the same LTE bands as the European version. The bands listed are as follows:
LTE: Band 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41 (Full band 41)
If that's the case, most carriers in the US would not be supported. Any of you hear different? It would make no sense for Nokia to ship out a new device to the States if something as basic as LTE bands isn't properly supported.
YayILikePie said:
Just chatted with Nokia support, and the rep states that the US model has the same LTE bands as the European version. The bands listed are as follows:
LTE: Band 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41 (Full band 41)
If that's the case, most carriers in the US would not be supported. Any of you hear different? It would make no sense for Nokia to ship out a new device to the States if something as basic as LTE bands isn't properly supported.
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yeah if thats the case this is a turd in the USA
YayILikePie said:
Just chatted with Nokia support, and the rep states that the US model has the same LTE bands as the European version. The bands listed are as follows:
LTE: Band 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41 (Full band 41)
If that's the case, most carriers in the US would not be supported. Any of you hear different? It would make no sense for Nokia to ship out a new device to the States if something as basic as LTE bands isn't properly supported.
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According to the B&H Photo preorder page
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 28, 38, 40, 66 Bands
lensgrabber said:
According to the B&H Photo preorder page
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 28, 38, 40, 66 Bands
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Here's hoping. That would make much more sense. I'll reach out to Nokia again to clarify, cause it would make no sense whatever to not have proper LTE support. I'm assuming I got bad info considering the phone was just announced.
Still missing 29/30 for AT&T which is odd because they're not that new like band 71 for T-Mobile.
YayILikePie said:
Just chatted with Nokia support, and the rep states that the US model has the same LTE bands as the European version. The bands listed are as follows:
LTE: Band 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41 (Full band 41)
If that's the case, most carriers in the US would not be supported. Any of you hear different? It would make no sense for Nokia to ship out a new device to the States if something as basic as LTE bands isn't properly supported.
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I had a chat with a Nokia rep about this and she posted this for me. It seems to agree with the bands listed on the B&H site.
Its seems only in US we have the 4GB/64 GB variant. If I buy from US, can I use the phone in UK & India?
Does anyone have info if the US version supports VOLTE (Tmobile and it's mvno's specifically). B&H does not list it in the specs (unless i missed it?)
roadrunner4spd said:
Does anyone have info if the US version supports VOLTE (Tmobile and it's mvno's specifically). B&H does not list it in the specs (unless i missed it?)
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I'm on AT&T and have "Enhanced LTE" and WiFi Calling. I can enable both but WiFi calling doesn't work because AT&T won't allow it on a prepaid plan. I don't see why it wouldn't work on TMO but I don't know for sure.
I am using it on T-Mobile and haveVoTe and VoWifi. The phone only shows 4G and does not show LTE. In the settings where you can choose the highest band to connect I only see 2G, 3G and 4G (with 4G being selected). I occasionally see 4G+. Can someone confirm if 4G is indeed LTE?
I am on ATT and am only getting 4G or H+ Icon and my download speeds peak at 4.5 Mbps. I was on the phone with ATT and we reset and recreated the Access Point Names with no luck. I also got a new SIM card with no luck either.
I think the phone is going back...
There is a difference, what you want to be seeing is "LTE" being displayed in your status bar *during* your data connections as it is faster than 4G. As for VOLTE merely seeing that as an option in your settings does not mean your calls are going to be Voice over LTE. What you want to see is "LTE" being displayed in your status bar *during* phone calls.
Unless you see someone posting an actual screenshot of LTE displaying in the status bar during data connections and unless you see someone posting an actual screenshot of LTE displaying in the status bar during a phone call you do not know if that phone has LTE capability on their particular carrier. Too many times we see people declaring that their phone has VOLTE (phone calls) or LTE (data connection) because they discovered there is an option to enable it in their settings. Their carrier has to actually be producing it which is only verifiable by screenshots. Hope that helps.
Here is the short explanation...
https://www.csmonitor.com/Technology/Tech/2012/0430/4G-LTE-What-s-the-difference
and here is a longer one https://www.tccrocks.com/blog/what-is-difference-between-4g-and-4g-lte/
Screen cap while not on a call, TMobile in Denver.
Sorry, can't add another screen cap... Here's one on a call.
lanrover said:
I am using it on T-Mobile and haveVoTe and VoWifi. The phone only shows 4G and does not show LTE. In the settings where you can choose the highest band to connect I only see 2G, 3G and 4G (with 4G being selected). I occasionally see 4G+. Can someone confirm if 4G is indeed LTE?
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volte - voice over lte. I do not own this devive but I have to assume 4G is LTE. you can download LTE discovery from google play and check with that app.
I was having the same issue with AT&T after getting the Nokia 7.1 and a new nano sim card (no LTE data). Good news (in a roundabout way), after updating to Pie this morning I was getting no data at all, called AT&T and now the network actually recognizes the phone manufacturer as HMD global and they had the option to attach LTE to my plan. So, give it another shot with AT&T customer service.
I'm on ATT. My phone was only indicated 4G (no LTE) until I updated the APN settings. I used ATTs recommended settings for LTE and now I am showing LTE in the status bar.

General Incorrect information on bands.

I didn't expect this phone to have 4 and 12 which is Tmobile but it was able to connect to it. It does say on specs that it has Band 41.
I use the LTE Discovery and I'm very surprise to see those bands being connected.
On North American version of redmagic website it says 1, 3, 7, 8, 20 and 28.
Tmobile 4g lte uses 2,4,5, 12 and 71 and 5g uses 41.

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