Z6 ultra xDD - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

http://m.gsmarena.com/a_total_of_5_sony_xperia_z6s_expected_a_4inch_mini_among_them-news-15343.php

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RealityFails said:
http://m.gsmarena.com/a_total_of_5_sony_xperia_z6s_expected_a_4inch_mini_among_them-news-15343.php
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It is good news and lets hope there will be more confirmations coming such as leaked FCC documents.

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:yawn:
i'll believe it when i see it.

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Agreed, we have a rumoured Ultra every iteration. None has been accurate yet... Fingers crossed though.

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Sony isnt as gutsy anymore. Z Ultra was a fail they most likely arent gonna take the risk again
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The market has evolved since 2013. Big screen devices are gaining popularity, especially in Asia and a 6.44 inch display in a slim body would be a much easier sell now than it was back then (the Ultra came to the market when a 5.5 inch Note 2 was the biggest screen) but a couple of competitors are offering devices above 5.7 inches and goes up to 7 inches.
Sony can take three routes for the next Ultra and both would be OK:
1. Introducing a Z6 Ultra with a 6.44 inch display and a decent camera.
2. Introducing a Z6 Tablet Compact with an 8 inch display, slimmer bezels than the Z3 TC and an ear speaker and dialer in the LTE version.
3. Introduce both a Z6 Ultra and a Z6 Tablet Compact.
I think they made the C5 Ultra as a market test and I got the impression that it got a positive reception, which would make it easier to design a Z6 Ultra with a similar edge-to-edge display design, which would make it smaller than the Z Ultra.
The alternative is a Tablet Compact with a similar edge-to-edge display and fully equipped with LTE and a dialer. Such a device would be smaller than the Z3 TC and would be totally OK as a replacement for the Ultra. Using the "Tablet Compact" name is clever since western people seems to be more accepting of tablets with an 8 inch display than a big "smartphone".
To me, the next "Ultra" can be a Z6 Ultra or a Z6 Tablet Compact LTE and I am pretty sure we will get at least one of them. AnTuTu scores give some credibility to a Z6 Ultra, though. The earlier rumors such as Z3X were just renderings without any information presented but this early indication from AnTuTu carries more weight. I don't think they would "fake" benchmarks from a Z6 series of Sony devices since it would be of no use.

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Except it's not an Antutu report, it's Antutu saying on social media that "It is reported that..." Gossip at best.

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The question is if someone ran an AnTuTu test on a prototype device and shared the results?
I think it is highly probable and logical with a portfolio clean up next year with a Z6 series eliminating all remains of the troubled 2015 (Xperia Z4 which should have been released alongside with the Z4 Tablet, then silent release in Japan followed by Z3+ in Europe quickly followed by the Z5, which isn't a complete series either).
It is reasonable to expect a Z6 Compact, Z6, Z6 Premium or Plus with some question marks regarding a Z6 Ultra, Z6 Tablet Compact and Z6 Tablet. A Z6 TC with smaller bezels than the Z3 TC with dialer on the LTE version (like the existing TC) and an ear speaker (improvement over the existing TC) would do it as an Ultra replacement. Whether Sony decide to develop a Z6 Ultra or rather let a Z6 TC take care of those customers is an open question. I would be very surprised if they leave a gap between the 5.5-5.7 inch segment and have a 10 inch as the next step. Something in between, be it a 6.44 inch Z6 Ultra or a 8 inch Z6 TC is a logical addition to the product line.
The size difference between a Z6 Ultra and a Z6 TC (with smaller bezels than the Z3 TC) is not that big so they could very well merge them into one device but with some more activity on the LTE version (many stores only carried the WiFi only Z3 TC SGP 611 or 612).

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E90 Commie said:
The question is if someone ran an AnTuTu test on a prototype device and shared the results?
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I've not seen that anywhere. And "logical additions" are less so if Sony's position is still that its mobile phone business is in a holding pattern only.

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A Z6 Tablet Compact is something I am pretty sure they will introduce since it is hard to see them allow a gap between a 5.5 inch device and a 10 inch tablet. I can understand a reluctance to make a 6.44 inch phablet but a new Tablet Compact could absorb those customers (the Z3 TC wasn't enough of an upgrade to make it worthwhile, especially since the LTE version has 16 GB only). All it takes is an "SGP652" and "SGP653" with 32 and 64 GB internal and LTE radio with a dialer and ear speaker (even if headset only is OK) and it would work as an Ultra replacement, especially with smaller bezels, which would make it just a tad bigger than the Ultra.
Even if they would decide to postpone a Z6 series to later next year I would assume a Z6 Tablet Compact and a Z6 Tablet is being their products for MWC, which would make sense since their earlier tablets were introduced at that time.
One thing is for sure: If they come empty handed to MWC with nothing new to show, i.e. trying to extract more life out of the Z3 TC and Z4 Tablet, it will be game-over quickly. The Z5 can live for a few months but two new tablets are needed.

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E90 Commie said:
A Z6 Tablet Compact is something I am pretty sure they will introduce since it is hard to see them allow a gap between a 5.5 inch device and a 10 inch tablet. I can understand a reluctance to make a 6.44 inch phablet but a new Tablet Compact could absorb those customers
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The TCs are just too big for me for an everyday phone. If there's no new ZU and not enough old ones available, I'll probably just have to step down to the best 6in device. But I'll be hoping for a Z6U/Z7U etc.

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Possible renaming for z ultra
The z3 tablet compact on the three network in the uk is classed as a tablet not a phablet even though you can call and text but the data is automatically disabled by three uk. I used this device for my primary mobile needs for about 4 month 2014 to q1 2015 until three disabled the data. I would like it if sony renamed the tablet compact to phablet compact or something else, so networks dont put the devices in the same class as full tablets, i also have the phone call conversation from the three customer service and supervisor(manager maybe). When three had disabled my data i had purchased a sony xperia z ultra to get my data back online and for my needs, now my z3 tablet compact is used as a second device for my work needs but as soon as the three uk network changes then i would be using this as my primary device again.

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I use my Ultra with a data-only SIM since 2014 when Hangouts Dialer came out since I use Google Voice for all talk and text needs and I usually get a SIM card without any issues with service this or that depending on the device. If I have the service and the SIM is compatible, everything is good to go and if a carrier have another idea and want to interfere, then I would be pretty mad at them.
I have tried the Z3 TC and can carry it in the same pocket as my Ultra with a Power Cover CP12. The main reason I never took the step was the decision of Sony to only use 16 GB in the SGP621, which essentially made it like an Ultra with a bigger screen (3 GB RAM is a benefit but otherwise the same more or less).
To me, going down to a smaller display isn't a workable solution since it make things clumsier, especially browsing and reading gain a lot with more space. Even a 6 inch display is a noticeable degradation for those things. The Ultra is the first device which is big enough to actually replace a tablet for me since the display is big enough without feeling like a big compromise. Going up to an 8 inch isn't my main plan but since the manufacturers actually make tablets that size, it is an option I have investigated as an option provided the market for 6.5-7 inch phablets with high end hardware is heavily restricted even in 2016.
With the Android 6.1 in the works and indications about great things going tablet next year (multi window, redesigned nav bar and so on), I am even more convinced about stepping up to 8 inches if Sony or another maker fail to give us a proper Ultra replacement (which I would convert into tablet DPI to get the new upcoming enhancements).

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Can it be...?
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/fcc_query.php?gc=PY7&pc=-PM0913

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mingkee said:
Can it be...?
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/fcc_query.php?gc=PY7&pc=-PM0913
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Idk how to read that site

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mingkee said:
Can it be...?
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/fcc_query.php?gc=PY7&pc=-PM0913
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PM0913=Z5 Premium Dual it is a 5.5 inch screen.

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RealityFails said:
Idk how to read that site
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It's FCC site shows all supported American bands.
Since it has B12, it's good For T-Mobile

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mingkee said:
It's FCC site shows all supported American bands.
Since it has B12, it's good For T-Mobile
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identification>
<model>E6883</model>
<marketingname>Xperia™ Z5 Premium Dual (E6883)</marketingname>
<vendor>Sony</vendor>
<brand>Xperia</brand>
<typeID>PM-0913-BV</typeID>
<class>Phone/Android</class>